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I have a few Calphalon pans, but mostly make due with old mismatched "T-fal"
pieces. (In Calphalon I have the omelet pan, wok, and smaller fry pan--no sauce pans or large pots.) I gave up my slow cooker but still do lots of braising, beef stew, pork, and I make chicken soup and other dishes. I like to make a lot at one time, and I like to brown the meat in the same pot I am going to braise it in. (It's just convenient!) The T-fal pots I use are about 50% too small. (You know the size, the largest one in the $69.99 set, the one you always use for spaghetti!) I have a smooth cooktop electric stove. Any recommendations? |
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On 26 Aug 2006 18:14:42 +0200, "cybercat" >
wrote: >I have a few Calphalon pans, but mostly make due with old mismatched "T-fal" >pieces. (In Calphalon I have the omelet pan, wok, and smaller fry pan--no >sauce pans or large pots.) > >I gave up my slow cooker but still do lots of braising, beef stew, pork, and >I make chicken soup and other dishes. I like to make a lot at one time, and >I like to brown the meat in the same pot I am going to braise it in. (It's >just convenient!) The T-fal pots I use are about 50% too small. (You know >the size, the largest one in the $69.99 set, the one you always use for >spaghetti!) > >I have a smooth cooktop electric stove. > >Any recommendations? > > Not sure if it works on a smoothtop electric stove, but Le Crueset makes the best pots for braising/stewing, in my opinion. However..if you want to get one...wait til the sale that happens in December..and find an Le Crueset outlet. Prices are much better then. Christine |
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I can't remember - are Calphalon pans coated with teflon or enamel? We
have birds and can't use teflon at all - not that I think this is such a loss. But I'm going to put a good pan or three on my wish list and want to be as specific as possible! Thanks - Jen Lownie |
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In article >, artisan2
@ix.netcom.com says... > On 26 Aug 2006 18:14:42 +0200, "cybercat" > > wrote: > > >I have a few Calphalon pans, but mostly make due with old mismatched "T-fal" > >pieces. (In Calphalon I have the omelet pan, wok, and smaller fry pan--no > >sauce pans or large pots.) > > > >I gave up my slow cooker but still do lots of braising, beef stew, pork, and > >I make chicken soup and other dishes. I like to make a lot at one time, and > >I like to brown the meat in the same pot I am going to braise it in. (It's > >just convenient!) The T-fal pots I use are about 50% too small. (You know > >the size, the largest one in the $69.99 set, the one you always use for > >spaghetti!) > > > >I have a smooth cooktop electric stove. > > > >Any recommendations? > > > > > > Not sure if it works on a smoothtop electric stove, but Le Crueset > makes the best pots for braising/stewing, in my opinion. > > However..if you want to get one...wait til the sale that happens in > December..and find an Le Crueset outlet. Prices are much better > then. > > Christine > Oh god, Le Crueset is hideously overpriced. Best thing one can do is find a restaurant supply company in their area. For example, I picked up a 16qt. stainless steel pot for $25. A heavey duty 12" non-stick skillet was $10. And it's solid. Restaurants don't screw around. When I found the restaurant supply store that was two blocks from my home, I was like a kid in a candy store. Aluminum half cookie sheet - $4.00 Good stuff cheap. I like that. |
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![]() > > Not sure if it works on a smoothtop electric stove, but Le Crueset > makes the best pots for braising/stewing, in my opinion. > I agree. > However..if you want to get one...wait til the sale that happens in > December..and find an Le Crueset outlet. Prices are much better > then. > Other ways to save money: I have a no name brand Creuset style pot and love it. It was cheap. Thrift stores sometiems sell grandmothers' old pots for very little money and if they're good, they're REALLY good. |
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cybercat wrote on 26 Aug 2006 in rec.food.cooking
> I have a few Calphalon pans, but mostly make due with old mismatched > "T-fal" pieces. (In Calphalon I have the omelet pan, wok, and smaller > fry pan--no sauce pans or large pots.) > > I gave up my slow cooker but still do lots of braising, beef stew, > pork, and I make chicken soup and other dishes. I like to make a lot > at one time, and I like to brown the meat in the same pot I am going > to braise it in. (It's just convenient!) The T-fal pots I use are > about 50% too small. (You know the size, the largest one in the $69.99 > set, the one you always use for spaghetti!) > > I have a smooth cooktop electric stove. > > Any recommendations? > > > > One of those 22qt electric roasters? like a crockpot but larger. -- Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect -Alan |
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T wrote:
> In article >, artisan2 > @ix.netcom.com says... > > On 26 Aug 2006 18:14:42 +0200, "cybercat" > > > wrote: [snip] > > >I gave up my slow cooker but still do lots of braising, beef stew, pork, and > > >I make chicken soup and other dishes. I like to make a lot at one time, and > > >I like to brown the meat in the same pot I am going to braise it in. (It's > > >just convenient!) The T-fal pots I use are about 50% too small. (You know > > >the size, the largest one in the $69.99 set, the one you always use for > > >spaghetti!) > > > > > >I have a smooth cooktop electric stove. > > > > > >Any recommendations? > > > > > Not sure if it works on a smoothtop electric stove, but Le Crueset > > makes the best pots for braising/stewing, in my opinion. > > > > However..if you want to get one...wait til the sale that happens in > > December..and find an Le Crueset outlet. Prices are much better > > then. > > > > Christine > > > > Oh god, Le Crueset is hideously overpriced. Le Crueset is premium priced but not out of line when on sale. Much more importantly, unless budget is the prime consideration, it is high quality and performs exactly as it is supposed to with no problems. So far I have amortized the cost of my two Le Crueset pots over a couple of decades and there is no indication that either is anywhere near the end of its lifespan. Over this timeframe the cost is negligible. > > Best thing one can do is find a restaurant supply company in their area. > For example, I picked up a 16qt. stainless steel pot for $25. > I also agree that restaurant/kitchen supply stores are great. Surfa's in L.A., for example, is a delight to wander through and has been a good source of things. If you have such a place near you, go and ask the staff for advice. They are usually knowledgeable (as compared to staff at a place like Williams-Sonoma where they are only knowledgeable in what they've been directed to push). -aem |
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![]() > wrote in message ups.com... > I can't remember - are Calphalon pans coated with teflon or enamel? We > have birds and can't use teflon at all - not that I think this is such > a loss. But I'm going to put a good pan or three on my wish list and > want to be as specific as possible! > Jen, mine have no teflon, though I think i have seen "nonstick" calphalon. |
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![]() "cybercat" > wrote in message ... > I have a few Calphalon pans, but mostly make due with old mismatched "T-fal" > pieces. (In Calphalon I have the omelet pan, wok, and smaller fry pan--no > sauce pans or large pots.) > > I gave up my slow cooker but still do lots of braising, beef stew, pork, and > I make chicken soup and other dishes. I like to make a lot at one time, and > I like to brown the meat in the same pot I am going to braise it in. (It's > just convenient!) The T-fal pots I use are about 50% too small. (You know > the size, the largest one in the $69.99 set, the one you always use for > spaghetti!) > > I have a smooth cooktop electric stove. > > Any recommendations? ====== I opened this Beef Stew message hoping to hit upon a great Beef Stew recipe and the chat is all about pans; what a dissapointment. ------------ > > > |
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![]() "pfoley" > wrote in message hlink.net... > > "cybercat" > wrote in message > ... > > I have a few Calphalon pans, but mostly make due with old mismatched > "T-fal" > > pieces. (In Calphalon I have the omelet pan, wok, and smaller fry pan--no > > sauce pans or large pots.) > > > > I gave up my slow cooker but still do lots of braising, beef stew, pork, > and > > I make chicken soup and other dishes. I like to make a lot at one time, > and > > I like to brown the meat in the same pot I am going to braise it in. (It's > > just convenient!) The T-fal pots I use are about 50% too small. (You know > > the size, the largest one in the $69.99 set, the one you always use for > > spaghetti!) > > > > I have a smooth cooktop electric stove. > > > > Any recommendations? > ====== > I opened this Beef Stew message hoping to hit upon a great Beef Stew recipe > and the chat is all about pans; what a dissapointment. Oh I am so soooooooo sorry; I should have put my glasses on; I thought it said Beef Stew not Best Stew. I must be getting tired. My eyes are playing tricks on me. If anyone does have a good Beef Stew recipe I would appreciate receiving one .. > ------------ > > > > > > > > |
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![]() "pfoley" > wrote > ====== > I opened this Beef Stew message hoping to hit upon a great Beef Stew recipe > and the chat is all about pans; what a dissapointment. > ------------ Okay, since I hate to disappoint you, I will give you mine. I think it is great because it is easy and it comes out thick and has healthy fresh vegetables in it. I cook more food at once than many people so I have halved my recipe. Two pounds Sirloin Tip Roast (this is key! this cut is perfect for this recipe!) one medium sweet onion (vidalia type) two large potatoes one lb baby carrots 4-5 tablespoons olive oil 1/2 cup flour salt and fresh ground pepper bay leaf eight cups water Chop onion in bite-sized chunks and sautee until just plump and lightly browned. Set aside. Chop potatoes in bite-sized pieces. Put olive oil in a deep skillet or soup pot, high heat When it is hot, brown the roast on all sides, and brown it deeply. Remove roast and put it on a plate. Turn heat to medium, sprinkle flour in slowly, cooking until it is lightly brown, about 2 minutes as you would do in a roux. Slowly add water, stirring, until flour mixture thickens. It will look too thick, but the beef juice cooks out as you braise it, and it turns out just right! And deep brown from the browned meat. Return roast to the pot, add ground pepper and bay leaf, cover, and turn down heat until you get a very slow simmer, just a bubble or two at a time. Cook for two hours at this simmer, stirring a few times. Add potatoes and carrots. Using a long-handled meat fork and a lonf knife, "help roast along" in the falling apart process! You can lift it out and just cut it up on a board if you want, but I never find that necessary. Simmer another hour. (Three hours at a very slow simmer is the magic formula for me, to get perfect "fall-apart" beef. Deep browning is the secret to good flavor, but you have to do it on a high heat and fast or the meat will dry out.) Stir in sauteed onions just before serving. This keeps the flavors separate and keeps the consistency of the onions nice and velvety. Great with fresh bread and butter. (Yes, it might also be pot roast, but the thick brown sauce is stew like. I began doing this because I hated cubing the beef and dredging it in flour and browning in small batches. For me, it comes out perfect every time. You can use more or less oil or flour, just play with it.) |
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![]() "pfoley" > wrote. > > Oh I am so soooooooo sorry; I should have put my glasses on; I thought it > said Beef Stew not Best Stew. I must be getting tired. My eyes are > playing tricks on me. > If anyone does have a good Beef Stew recipe I would appreciate receiving one Hey, that's okay! I already posted my best, time-tested recipe! It is easy, too! -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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![]() "cybercat" > wrote in message ... > > "pfoley" > wrote > > > ====== > > I opened this Beef Stew message hoping to hit upon a great Beef Stew > recipe > > and the chat is all about pans; what a dissapointment. > > ------------ > > Okay, since I hate to disappoint you, I will give you mine. I think it > is great because it is easy and it comes out thick and has healthy > fresh vegetables in it. I cook more food at once than many people > so I have halved my recipe. > > Two pounds Sirloin Tip Roast (this is key! this cut is perfect for this > recipe!) > one medium sweet onion (vidalia type) > two large potatoes > one lb baby carrots > 4-5 tablespoons olive oil > 1/2 cup flour > salt and fresh ground pepper > bay leaf > eight cups water > > > Chop onion in bite-sized chunks and sautee until just plump > and lightly browned. Set aside. > > Chop potatoes in bite-sized pieces. > > Put olive oil in a deep skillet or soup pot, high heat > When it is hot, brown the roast on all sides, and brown > it deeply. Remove roast and put it on a plate. > > Turn heat to medium, sprinkle flour in slowly, cooking > until it is lightly brown, about 2 minutes as you would do > in a roux. > > Slowly add water, stirring, until flour mixture thickens. > It will look too thick, but the beef juice cooks out as > you braise it, and it turns out just right! And deep brown > from the browned meat. > > Return roast to the pot, add ground pepper and bay leaf, cover, > and turn down heat until you get a very slow simmer, just a bubble or > two at a time. Cook for two hours at this simmer, stirring > a few times. Add potatoes and carrots. Using a long-handled > meat fork and a lonf knife, "help roast along" in the falling > apart process! You can lift it out and just cut it up on a board > if you want, but I never find that necessary. Simmer another hour. > (Three hours at a very slow simmer is the magic formula > for me, to get perfect "fall-apart" beef. Deep browning is > the secret to good flavor, but you have to do it on a high > heat and fast or the meat will dry out.) > > Stir in sauteed onions just before serving. This keeps the > flavors separate and keeps the consistency of the onions > nice and velvety. > > Great with fresh bread and butter. > > (Yes, it might also be pot roast, but the thick brown sauce > is stew like. I began doing this because I hated cubing the > beef and dredging it in flour and browning in small batches. > For me, it comes out perfect every time. You can use more > or less oil or flour, just play with it.) ==================== This recipe does sound delicious; I will print it and save it. It reminds me of pot roast though. But, I love Pot Roast; I think it is my favorite meal, so one way or the other I will make it and I will like it. Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > |
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![]() "pfoley" > wrote > This recipe does sound delicious; I will print it and save it. It reminds > me of pot roast though. But, I love Pot Roast; I think it is my favorite > meal, so one way or the other I will make it and I will like it. > Thank you. Your welcome! You may find some additions that make it better, if so let me know. But definitely get the Sirloin tip roast. I tried it with a chuck roast (you know, the typical pot roast cut?) and I had to spend a LOT of time cutting all that ingrained gristle and connective tissue out after browning it. AND before browning. It was a pain. (But the chuck was on sale for $1.98 a lb and the Sirloin Tip is usually $4.50-$5 a pound around here ...) P.S.--I have been fixing this at least twice a month for the past six months, and my cholesterol still dropped 60 points, go figure. I think it has something to do with all the fresh vegetables I eat and the supplements I take (B complex, C, and magnesium) as it surely has nothing to do with exercise! And I eat lots of eggs and moderate amounts of cheese, too. It's a mystery. My "good" HDL was 69, too, which is really good, wayyy high. The only differences I could see was the increased fresh vegetables I am getting in these braised meats and soups. FWIW! |
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On 27 Aug 2006 02:18:21 +0200, "cybercat" >
wrote: >But definitely get the Sirloin tip roast. I tried >it with a chuck roast (you know, the typical pot roast cut?) and >I had to spend a LOT of time cutting all that ingrained gristle >and connective tissue out after browning it. That connective tissue is what gives traditional pot roast and other braised dishes their succulence. The long slow cooking breaks down that tissue, and contributes to the wonderful quality of long cooked beef, etc. If you cook such cuts of beef long enough, that tissue isn't a problem. It is when they are cooked insufficiently that it becomes sort of yucky. Christine |
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Oh pshaw, on Sat 26 Aug 2006 05:43:23p, Christine Dabney meant to say...
> On 27 Aug 2006 02:18:21 +0200, "cybercat" > > wrote: > >>But definitely get the Sirloin tip roast. I tried >>it with a chuck roast (you know, the typical pot roast cut?) and >>I had to spend a LOT of time cutting all that ingrained gristle and >>connective tissue out after browning it. > > That connective tissue is what gives traditional pot roast and other > braised dishes their succulence. The long slow cooking breaks down > that tissue, and contributes to the wonderful quality of long cooked > beef, etc. > > If you cook such cuts of beef long enough, that tissue isn't a > problem. It is when they are cooked insufficiently that it becomes > sort of yucky. > > Christine > Few people understand that, Christine. I can never ask David to pick up a roast for pot roast or to cut up for stew. He will always come home with something devoid of anything that makes it good. :-) -- Wayne Boatwright __________________________________________________ Terraform Mars? Why not terraform the Earth? |
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![]() "Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: > > > > If you cook such cuts of beef long enough, that tissue isn't a > > problem. It is when they are cooked insufficiently that it becomes > > sort of yucky. > > > > Christine > > > > Few people understand that, Christine. I can never ask David to pick up a > roast for pot roast or to cut up for stew. He will always come home with > something devoid of anything that makes it good. :-) > So three hours is not long enough to simmer chuck roast? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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![]() "Christine Dabney" > wrote in message ... > On 27 Aug 2006 02:18:21 +0200, "cybercat" > > wrote: > > > If you cook such cuts of beef long enough, that tissue isn't a > problem. It is when they are cooked insufficiently that it becomes > sort of yucky. > Could be! What I know for sure is that Sirloin Tip Roast is perfect in three hours at a slow simmer, and chuck roast has perfectly nice meat with really gross gristly fat running through it. So how long is long enough to braise chuck? I would like to be able to get the cheaper cut of meat and still have it be good. Typically, I cook four to five pounds at a time. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:08:48 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote: > >"Wayne Boatwright" <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > If you cook such cuts of beef long enough, that tissue isn't a >> > problem. It is when they are cooked insufficiently that it becomes >> > sort of yucky. >> > >> > Christine >> > >> >> Few people understand that, Christine. I can never ask David to pick up a >> roast for pot roast or to cut up for stew. He will always come home with >> something devoid of anything that makes it good. :-) >> > >So three hours is not long enough to simmer chuck roast? Sometimes, it does need longer than that. When it is really ready, it should be fork tender..and the connective tissue should all be melted into the meat. Christine |
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:11:49 -0400, "cybercat" >
wrote: >So how long is long enough to braise chuck? I would like to >be able to get the cheaper cut of meat and still have it be >good. Typically, I cook four to five pounds at a time. You cook it til it becomes fork tender. Sometimes it will take a longer time... Setting a specific time for it to cook, is misleading, as some braises take up to 5 hours to reach that state. Christine |
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![]() "Christine Dabney" > wrote: > >> > > > >So three hours is not long enough to simmer chuck roast? > > Sometimes, it does need longer than that. When it is really ready, it > should be fork tender..and the connective tissue should all be melted > into the meat. > Interesting! I will be sure to try that next time I buy that cut. Thank you. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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> >So three hours is not long enough to simmer chuck roast?
> > Sometimes, it does need longer than that. When it is really ready, it > should be fork tender..and the connective tissue should all be melted > into the meat. Key word is *simmer*... If it gets too hot it will be very dry and stringy... Never ever let it get to a boil... |
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![]() "cybercat" > wrote in message ... > > "pfoley" > wrote > > > This recipe does sound delicious; I will print it and save it. It reminds > > me of pot roast though. But, I love Pot Roast; I think it is my favorite > > meal, so one way or the other I will make it and I will like it. > > Thank you. > > Your welcome! You may find some additions that make it better, > if so let me know. But definitely get the Sirloin tip roast. I tried > it with a chuck roast (you know, the typical pot roast cut?) and > I had to spend a LOT of time cutting all that ingrained gristle > and connective tissue out after browning it. AND before browning. > It was a pain. (But the chuck was on sale for $1.98 a lb and the > Sirloin Tip is usually $4.50-$5 a pound around here ...) > > P.S.--I have been fixing this at least twice a month for the past six > months, and my cholesterol still dropped 60 points, go figure. I > think it has something to do with all the fresh vegetables I eat and > the supplements I take (B complex, C, and magnesium) as it surely > has nothing to do with exercise! And I eat lots of eggs and moderate > amounts of cheese, too. It's a mystery. My "good" HDL was 69, too, > which is really good, wayyy high. The only differences I could see > was the increased fresh vegetables I am getting in these braised meats > and soups. FWIW! > ------ I wouldn't have thought a meal like this would lower your cholesterol. I have a count just like you; they tell me not to worry about it since the HDL is high. Have you ever made the beef stew using stew meat which is already cut up in chunks? > |
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![]() "pfoley" > wrote > > ------ > I wouldn't have thought a meal like this would lower your cholesterol. Me either, and I am not really suggesting it has--it is just among the few additions to my diet that I recounted in order to try to figure out what had changed since my higher cholesterol reading. Could be happiness and prayer, who knows? ![]() I > have a count just like you; they tell me not to worry about it since the HDL > is high. > Have you ever made the beef stew using stew meat which is already cut up in > chunks? > I have, when I dredged them all in seasoned flour, browned them well a few at a time, and made stew that way. It is so time consuming and messy, I was looking for another way. And I really liked to buy my own, leaner cut and chop it myself. That was long before I understood that if I cooked the beef long enough the fat etc. would basicly dissolve. (Because I just learned that yesterday, lol!) What is your favorite recipe, since you like it so much? |
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![]() "cybercat" > wrote in message ... > > "pfoley" > wrote > > ------ > > > I wouldn't have thought a meal like this would lower your cholesterol. > > Me either, and I am not really suggesting it has--it is just among the few > additions to my diet that I recounted in order to try to figure out what > had changed since my higher cholesterol reading. Could be happiness > and prayer, who knows? ![]() > > I > > have a count just like you; they tell me not to worry about it since the > HDL > > is high. > > > Have you ever made the beef stew using stew meat which is already cut up > in > > chunks? > > > > I have, when I dredged them all in seasoned flour, browned them well a > few at a time, and made stew that way. It is so time consuming and messy, > I was looking for another way. And I really liked to buy my own, leaner > cut and chop it myself. That was long before I understood that if I cooked > the beef long enough the fat etc. would basicly dissolve. (Because I just > learned that yesterday, lol!) What is your favorite recipe, since you like > it so much? ===================== I will post them in a new post; I have 2 o3 recipes of beef stew, so I might as well post them to the group in case someone else is interested. ---------------- > > |
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![]() "pfoley" > wrote > ===================== > I will post them in a new post; I have 2 o3 recipes of beef stew, so I might > as well post them to the group in case someone else is interested. Super, thanks! Good idea! I had a look at the first one, I like the idea of adding turnips. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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In article >, "cybercat" > wrote:
> >"pfoley" > wrote > ===================== >> I will post them in a new post; I have 2 o3 recipes of beef stew, so I >might >> as well post them to the group in case someone else is interested. > >Super, thanks! Good idea! I had a look at the first one, I like the idea of >adding turnips. Turnips in a beef stew aren't an "idea", they're an *essential*. ;-) Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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![]() "cybercat" > wrote in message ... > > "pfoley" > wrote > ===================== > > I will post them in a new post; I have 2 o3 recipes of beef stew, so I > might > > as well post them to the group in case someone else is interested. > > Super, thanks! Good idea! I had a look at the first one, I like the idea of > adding turnips. > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ======================== Turnips have always been a part of old fashioned beef stew recipes; some people probably leave them out because they either don't have one available or might not like them. You can still make the stew without it, but I like turnip. I would like you to try the second recipe (Carbonnade of Beef and Vegetables) also; it is excellent and I serve that one over wide noodles. ------------------------- > |
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