"Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
. ..
> Can you cook

I've seen this referenced a lot.

"George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales of the
grills"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill

What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a cooking
device?

--
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com

Opinicus wrote:
:: "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
:: . ..
::: Can you cook
::
:: I've seen this referenced a lot.
::
:: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales of
:: the grills"
:: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
::
:: What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a cooking
:: device?

After Foreman got beat down by Ali, he got really angry & went into
depression for many years. After that, he reemerged with a big smile. His
entired attitude changed. He became a ring-side expert commentator at HBO
boxing events. People noticed that smile. Because he was well known and
had that smile, IMO, he was picked to help market those grills. Of course,
you could see the fat rolling off the grill into the little tray, so that
naturally meant that it had to make eating a fat steak more healthy. Of
course, college students like grills and so do many of us. Lots of us here
own or have owned one of these, I'd bet. I rarely use mine now because it's
such a damn pain to clean.

Roger Zoul wrote:
> Opinicus wrote:
> :: "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
> :: . ..
> ::: Can you cook
> ::
> :: I've seen this referenced a lot.
> ::
> :: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales of
> :: the grills"
> :: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
> ::
> :: What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a cooking
> :: device?
>
> After Foreman got beat down by Ali, he got really angry & went into
> depression for many years. After that, he reemerged with a big smile. His
> entired attitude changed. He became a ring-side expert commentator at HBO
> boxing events. People noticed that smile. Because he was well known and
> had that smile, IMO, he was picked to help market those grills. Of course,
> you could see the fat rolling off the grill into the little tray, so that
> naturally meant that it had to make eating a fat steak more healthy. Of
> course, college students like grills and so do many of us. Lots of us here
> own or have owned one of these, I'd bet. I rarely use mine now because it's
> such a damn pain to clean.
>
>


There are newer George Foreman grills which are easier to clean.

They feature grilling plates that detatch from the unit for cleaning.
So, you can unclip them and wash these teflon coated corrugated aluminum
plates very easily.

PROGRESS

In the 1940's, after WWII, my Dad bought my Mom an electric grill/waffle
maker.

The waffle plates were detachable from the electric grill for easy
cleaning in the sink.



These "NEW" EZ To Clean George Foreman Grills use technology and basic
designs over 50 years old.

All kinds of old things get rediscovered, don't they?

:-)

While still hot, I would take maybe 4 layers of paper towels saturated
with soapy water and lay them into the just unplugged grill. The heat,
water, soap and steam would make the grill almost EZ to wipe clean when
it had cooled down.

If you had a empty nice sink or a shallow dishpan, you could do final
fast cleaning with a spray of soapy water over the grill surfaces while
it was in the dishpan or sink. You would never get enough waste water
buildup to short circuit any of the insides.

Almost never did I have to use that teflon grooved scraper thing.

I use it mostly in the summer when I don't want to heat up the kitchen
with the overn or gas burner flame.

Did you know there was also a George Foreman Chicken Roaster? Worked
nicely, didn't heat the house, but was a bitch to clean because it
didn't have removable heater plates - that 50+ year old technology.

Jim

Jbuch wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Opinicus wrote:
::::: "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
::::: . ..
:::::: Can you cook
:::::
::::: I've seen this referenced a lot.
:::::
::::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales
::::: of the grills"
::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
:::::
::::: What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a
::::: cooking device?
:::
::: After Foreman got beat down by Ali, he got really angry & went into
::: depression for many years. After that, he reemerged with a big
::: smile. His entired attitude changed. He became a ring-side expert
::: commentator at HBO boxing events. People noticed that smile.
::: Because he was well known and had that smile, IMO, he was picked
::: to help market those grills. Of course, you could see the fat
::: rolling off the grill into the little tray, so that naturally meant
::: that it had to make eating a fat steak more healthy. Of course,
::: college students like grills and so do many of us. Lots of us here
::: own or have owned one of these, I'd bet. I rarely use mine now
::: because it's such a damn pain to clean.
:::
:::
::
::
:: There are newer George Foreman grills which are easier to clean.
::
:: They feature grilling plates that detatch from the unit for cleaning.
:: So, you can unclip them and wash these teflon coated corrugated
:: aluminum plates very easily.

Yeah, I've heard of these....I take it (from below) that you'd recommend
this item?

I do like how easy it is to cook with them....just set the timer and temp
and let it go...kinda nice, and if clean up isn't bad...it could be useful
for us meateaters. Of course, one can put veggies on there too.

Have you tried cooking a LC waffle on it? Hmm.....

::
:: PROGRESS
::
:: In the 1940's, after WWII, my Dad bought my Mom an electric
:: grill/waffle maker.
::
:: The waffle plates were detachable from the electric grill for easy
:: cleaning in the sink.
::
::
::
:: These "NEW" EZ To Clean George Foreman Grills use technology and
:: basic designs over 50 years old.
::
:: All kinds of old things get rediscovered, don't they?
::
:: :-)
::
:: While still hot, I would take maybe 4 layers of paper towels
:: saturated with soapy water and lay them into the just unplugged
:: grill. The heat, water, soap and steam would make the grill almost
:: EZ to wipe clean when it had cooled down.
::
:: If you had a empty nice sink or a shallow dishpan, you could do final
:: fast cleaning with a spray of soapy water over the grill surfaces
:: while it was in the dishpan or sink. You would never get enough
:: waste water buildup to short circuit any of the insides.
::
:: Almost never did I have to use that teflon grooved scraper thing.
::
:: I use it mostly in the summer when I don't want to heat up the
:: kitchen with the overn or gas burner flame.
::
:: Did you know there was also a George Foreman Chicken Roaster? Worked
:: nicely, didn't heat the house, but was a bitch to clean because it
:: didn't have removable heater plates - that 50+ year old technology.
::
:: Jim

Roger Zoul wrote:
> Jbuch wrote:
> :: Roger Zoul wrote:
> ::: Opinicus wrote:
> ::::: "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
> ::::: . ..
> :::::: Can you cook
> :::::
> ::::: I've seen this referenced a lot.
> :::::
> ::::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales
> ::::: of the grills"
> ::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
> :::::
> ::::: What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a
> ::::: cooking device?
> :::
> ::: After Foreman got beat down by Ali, he got really angry & went into
> ::: depression for many years. After that, he reemerged with a big
> ::: smile. His entired attitude changed. He became a ring-side expert
> ::: commentator at HBO boxing events. People noticed that smile.
> ::: Because he was well known and had that smile, IMO, he was picked
> ::: to help market those grills. Of course, you could see the fat
> ::: rolling off the grill into the little tray, so that naturally meant
> ::: that it had to make eating a fat steak more healthy. Of course,
> ::: college students like grills and so do many of us. Lots of us here
> ::: own or have owned one of these, I'd bet. I rarely use mine now
> ::: because it's such a damn pain to clean.
> :::
> :::
> ::
> ::
> :: There are newer George Foreman grills which are easier to clean.
> ::
> :: They feature grilling plates that detatch from the unit for cleaning.
> :: So, you can unclip them and wash these teflon coated corrugated
> :: aluminum plates very easily.
>
> Yeah, I've heard of these....I take it (from below) that you'd recommend
> this item?


I guess I mislead you. I only have the old George Foreman grill, not
the new. My cleaning instructions below were for the Old Grill. It is
pretty easy cleaning with the moistened - soaped paper towels used just
after shutting off of the grill. And the spray soap and water. (and a
plastic "scrubby")




>
> I do like how easy it is to cook with them....just set the timer and temp
> and let it go...kinda nice, and if clean up isn't bad...it could be useful
> for us meateaters. Of course, one can put veggies on there too.
>
> Have you tried cooking a LC waffle on it? Hmm.....

I barely dare to cook LC pancakes. They go down so goood. And it is easy
to cook and eat too many.

>
> ::
> :: PROGRESS
> ::
> :: In the 1940's, after WWII, my Dad bought my Mom an electric
> :: grill/waffle maker.
> ::
> :: The waffle plates were detachable from the electric grill for easy
> :: cleaning in the sink.
> ::
> ::
> ::
> :: These "NEW" EZ To Clean George Foreman Grills use technology and
> :: basic designs over 50 years old.
> ::
> :: All kinds of old things get rediscovered, don't they?
> ::
> :: :-)
> ::
> :: While still hot, I would take maybe 4 layers of paper towels
> :: saturated with soapy water and lay them into the just unplugged
> :: grill. The heat, water, soap and steam would make the grill almost
> :: EZ to wipe clean when it had cooled down.
> ::
> :: If you had a empty nice sink or a shallow dishpan, you could do final
> :: fast cleaning with a spray of soapy water over the grill surfaces
> :: while it was in the dishpan or sink. You would never get enough
> :: waste water buildup to short circuit any of the insides.
> ::
> :: Almost never did I have to use that teflon grooved scraper thing.
> ::
> :: I use it mostly in the summer when I don't want to heat up the
> :: kitchen with the overn or gas burner flame.
> ::
> :: Did you know there was also a George Foreman Chicken Roaster? Worked
> :: nicely, didn't heat the house, but was a bitch to clean because it
> :: didn't have removable heater plates - that 50+ year old technology.
> ::
> :: Jim
>
>

Jbuch wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Jbuch wrote:
::::: Roger Zoul wrote:
:::::: Opinicus wrote:
:::::::: "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
:::::::: . ..
::::::::: Can you cook
::::::::
:::::::: I've seen this referenced a lot.
::::::::
:::::::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the
:::::::: sales of the grills"
:::::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
::::::::
:::::::: What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a
:::::::: cooking device?
::::::
:::::: After Foreman got beat down by Ali, he got really angry & went
:::::: into depression for many years. After that, he reemerged with a
:::::: big smile. His entired attitude changed. He became a ring-side
:::::: expert commentator at HBO boxing events. People noticed that
:::::: smile. Because he was well known and had that smile, IMO, he
:::::: was picked to help market those grills. Of course, you could
:::::: see the fat rolling off the grill into the little tray, so that
:::::: naturally meant that it had to make eating a fat steak more
:::::: healthy. Of course, college students like grills and so do many
:::::: of us. Lots of us here own or have owned one of these, I'd bet.
:::::: I rarely use mine now because it's such a damn pain to clean.
::::::
::::::
:::::
:::::
::::: There are newer George Foreman grills which are easier to clean.
:::::
::::: They feature grilling plates that detatch from the unit for
::::: cleaning. So, you can unclip them and wash these teflon coated
::::: corrugated aluminum plates very easily.
:::
::: Yeah, I've heard of these....I take it (from below) that you'd
::: recommend this item?
::
::
:: I guess I mislead you. I only have the old George Foreman grill, not
:: the new. My cleaning instructions below were for the Old Grill. It is
:: pretty easy cleaning with the moistened - soaped paper towels used
:: just after shutting off of the grill. And the spray soap and water.
:: (and a plastic "scrubby")
::

I guess I should have caught on when you mentioned the scapper thing...I
can't even find mine. I too start cleaning mine while it's still hot...but
I just use a soaked sponge to transfer hot soapy water from the sink to the
grill surface....using the trays to catch the spill. That works well enough
but I think it would still be much easier to just lift the grill off into
soapy water and scrub.

I don't make LC pancakes either....less than once a year, though I do have
some mix in my house that I got somewhere. They might make a treat with
some of that calorie-free syrup (which I don't use much either!) that
sitting in my frig taking up space.

Speaking of that stuff, the only "calorie free" Walden Farms products I
consistently use are the ranch dressing and the dips. The dips work for me
with berries and in my protein/sour cream dessert. Those jams I just don't
use....I still have almost full jars in the frig now. I like to put lots of
dressing on salads along with really spicy mustard.

I do remember once seeing the Chicken roaster thingie by GF. However, I
don't need another GF thingie in my house. Only one at a time!

::
::
::
:::
::: I do like how easy it is to cook with them....just set the timer
::: and temp and let it go...kinda nice, and if clean up isn't bad...it
::: could be useful for us meateaters. Of course, one can put veggies
::: on there too.
:::
::: Have you tried cooking a LC waffle on it? Hmm.....
::
:: I barely dare to cook LC pancakes. They go down so goood. And it is
:: easy to cook and eat too many.
::
:::
:::::
::::: PROGRESS
:::::
::::: In the 1940's, after WWII, my Dad bought my Mom an electric
::::: grill/waffle maker.
:::::
::::: The waffle plates were detachable from the electric grill for easy
::::: cleaning in the sink.
:::::
:::::
:::::
::::: These "NEW" EZ To Clean George Foreman Grills use technology and
::::: basic designs over 50 years old.
:::::
::::: All kinds of old things get rediscovered, don't they?
:::::
::::: :-)
:::::
::::: While still hot, I would take maybe 4 layers of paper towels
::::: saturated with soapy water and lay them into the just unplugged
::::: grill. The heat, water, soap and steam would make the grill almost
::::: EZ to wipe clean when it had cooled down.
:::::
::::: If you had a empty nice sink or a shallow dishpan, you could do
::::: final fast cleaning with a spray of soapy water over the grill
::::: surfaces while it was in the dishpan or sink. You would never
::::: get enough waste water buildup to short circuit any of the
::::: insides.
:::::
::::: Almost never did I have to use that teflon grooved scraper thing.
:::::
::::: I use it mostly in the summer when I don't want to heat up the
::::: kitchen with the overn or gas burner flame.
:::::
::::: Did you know there was also a George Foreman Chicken Roaster?
::::: Worked nicely, didn't heat the house, but was a bitch to clean
::::: because it didn't have removable heater plates - that 50+ year
::::: old technology.
:::::
::::: Jim

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:59:23 -0500, Alan > wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:46:49 +0200, "Opinicus"
> > wrote:
>
>> "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Can you cook
>>
>> I've seen this referenced a lot.
>>
>> "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales of the
>> grills"
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
>>
>> What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a cooking
>> device?
>
> Somehow, I bet Salton, or whoever manufactures those grills
> has made over $150million, but I bet Mr. Foreman's contract
> stipulates a small percent for the use of his name.
>
> People ALWAYS over estimate how much public figures make.
>
> Alan
>

In this case, you're wrong:

"Lucrative, too. Foreman won't say how much he has made as a product
endorser, but he doesn't dispute a published estimate that his lifetime
earnings are about $240 million -- three times what he earned in the ring.
In 1999, Salton bought the rights to use his name and selling skills in
perpetuity for $127.5 million in cash and $10 million in stock. It stands
as one of the biggest endorsement deals for any athlete."

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...1/b3913093.htm


--
Bob in CT

On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:45:54 -0500, Alan > wrote:

> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:54:15 -0500, "Bob in CT"
> > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:59:23 -0500, Alan > wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:46:49 +0200, "Opinicus"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
>>>> . ..
>>>>> Can you cook
>>>>
>>>> I've seen this referenced a lot.
>>>>
>>>> "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales of
>>>> the
>>>> grills"
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
>>>>
>>>> What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a cooking
>>>> device?
>>>
>>> Somehow, I bet Salton, or whoever manufactures those grills
>>> has made over $150million, but I bet Mr. Foreman's contract
>>> stipulates a small percent for the use of his name.
>>>
>>> People ALWAYS over estimate how much public figures make.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>
>> In this case, you're wrong:
>>
>> "Lucrative, too. Foreman won't say how much he has made as a product
>> endorser, but he doesn't dispute a published estimate that his lifetime
>> earnings are about $240 million -- three times what he earned in the
>> ring.
>> In 1999, Salton bought the rights to use his name and selling skills in
>> perpetuity for $127.5 million in cash and $10 million in stock. It
>> stands
>> as one of the biggest endorsement deals for any athlete."
>>
>> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...1/b3913093.htm
>
> Well. I'll be...........................
>
>

I'm in shock, too. It's way more money than I thought he'd make.


--
Bob in CT

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:45:54 -0500, Alan > wrote:
::
::: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:54:15 -0500, "Bob in CT"
::: > wrote:
:::
:::: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:59:23 -0500, Alan > wrote:
::::
::::: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:46:49 +0200, "Opinicus"
::::: > wrote:
:::::
:::::: "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
:::::: . ..
::::::: Can you cook
::::::
:::::: I've seen this referenced a lot.
::::::
:::::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the
:::::: sales of the
:::::: grills"
:::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
::::::
:::::: What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a
:::::: cooking device?
:::::
::::: Somehow, I bet Salton, or whoever manufactures those grills
::::: has made over $150million, but I bet Mr. Foreman's contract
::::: stipulates a small percent for the use of his name.
:::::
::::: People ALWAYS over estimate how much public figures make.
:::::
::::: Alan
:::::
::::
:::: In this case, you're wrong:
::::
:::: "Lucrative, too. Foreman won't say how much he has made as a
:::: product endorser, but he doesn't dispute a published estimate that
:::: his lifetime earnings are about $240 million -- three times what
:::: he earned in the ring.
:::: In 1999, Salton bought the rights to use his name and selling
:::: skills in perpetuity for $127.5 million in cash and $10 million in
:::: stock. It stands
:::: as one of the biggest endorsement deals for any athlete."
::::
:::: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...1/b3913093.htm
:::
::: Well. I'll be...........................
:::
:::
::
:: I'm in shock, too. It's way more money than I thought he'd make.

Certainly given that he went into a years long funk after Ali beat him down.
I'd say he recovered well! I'm happy for the big guy, but I hope he stays
out of the ring. He was a terror in his prime. The only way Ali could beat
him was to outsmart him.

wrote:
:: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:46:49 +0200, "Opinicus" >
:: wrote:
::
::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales
::: of the grills"
::
:: Yeah, but George Bush made even more.
::
:: How about getting a George Bush grill instead ?

Did you know that George Foreman has several sons whose names are George?

"Roger Zoul" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
> :: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:46:49 +0200, "Opinicus" >
> :: wrote:
> ::
> ::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales
> ::: of the grills"
> ::
> :: Yeah, but George Bush made even more.
> ::
> :: How about getting a George Bush grill instead ?
>
> Did you know that George Foreman has several sons whose names are George?

All of his sons are named George, not a bad way of avoiding confusion.
.....And unlike most former boxers, George seems to have survived
mostly-unaddled and (at least on the occasion I ran into him in a Southeast
Texas Wal-Mart) both smiling and gracious, well mannered in a fashion we
used to call "a credit to his raising".

TMO

TMOliver wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" > wrote in message
:: ...
::: wrote:
::::: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:46:49 +0200, "Opinicus" >
::::: wrote:
:::::
:::::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the sales
:::::: of the grills"
:::::
::::: Yeah, but George Bush made even more.
:::::
::::: How about getting a George Bush grill instead ?
:::
::: Did you know that George Foreman has several sons whose names are
::: George?
::
:: All of his sons are named George, not a bad way of avoiding
:: confusion.

Not a bad way of creating it, either! .

:: ....And unlike most former boxers, George seems to have
:: survived mostly-unaddled

Why do you think most former boxers are addled (assuming they weren't before
boxing)? Are there some stats somewhere on this? I know of plenty who
aren't.

:: and (at least on the occasion I ran into
:: him in a Southeast Texas Wal-Mart) both smiling and gracious, well
:: mannered in a fashion we used to call "a credit to his raising".
::

That's nice to hear!

Roger Zoul wrote:
> Bob in CT wrote:
> :: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:45:54 -0500, Alan > wrote:
> ::
> ::: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:54:15 -0500, "Bob in CT"
> ::: > wrote:
> :::
> :::: On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:59:23 -0500, Alan > wrote:
> ::::
> ::::: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:46:49 +0200, "Opinicus"
> ::::: > wrote:
> :::::
> :::::: "Utter Simpleton" > wrote in message
> :::::: . ..
> ::::::: Can you cook
> ::::::
> :::::: I've seen this referenced a lot.
> ::::::
> :::::: "George Foreman himself has made over $150 million from the
> :::::: sales of the
> :::::: grills"
> :::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Foreman_Grill
> ::::::
> :::::: What exactly was the relationship between this pugilist and a
> :::::: cooking device?
> :::::
> ::::: Somehow, I bet Salton, or whoever manufactures those grills
> ::::: has made over $150million, but I bet Mr. Foreman's contract
> ::::: stipulates a small percent for the use of his name.
> :::::
> ::::: People ALWAYS over estimate how much public figures make.
> :::::
> ::::: Alan
> :::::
> ::::
> :::: In this case, you're wrong:
> ::::
> :::: "Lucrative, too. Foreman won't say how much he has made as a
> :::: product endorser, but he doesn't dispute a published estimate that
> :::: his lifetime earnings are about $240 million -- three times what
> :::: he earned in the ring.
> :::: In 1999, Salton bought the rights to use his name and selling
> :::: skills in perpetuity for $127.5 million in cash and $10 million in
> :::: stock. It stands
> :::: as one of the biggest endorsement deals for any athlete."
> ::::
> :::: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...1/b3913093.htm
> :::
> ::: Well. I'll be...........................
> :::
> :::
> ::
> :: I'm in shock, too. It's way more money than I thought he'd make.
>
> Certainly given that he went into a years long funk after Ali beat him down.
> I'd say he recovered well! I'm happy for the big guy, but I hope he stays
> out of the ring. He was a terror in his prime. The only way Ali could beat
> him was to outsmart him.
>
>


I like George Foreman. I have a closetfull of his clothes.

"Jake" > wrote....

>
>
> I like George Foreman. I have a closetfull of his clothes.

Liking food will do that to you...(as it has sort of expanded my horizontal
horizons, fortunately hung on a large, tall frame).

TMO

"Jake" > wrote

> I like George Foreman. I have a closetfull of his clothes.

Didn't he put up a fight when you took them?

--
Bob
http://www.kanyak.com