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![]() According to Desmond Seward in _The Monks of War_ (Penguin 1995), Enrique de Villena, who became Master of the Order of Calatrava in 1404 and died in retirement in 1434, "...compiled the first Spanish cookery book, the _Arte Cisoria_. So bizarre are the latter's recipes that some historians believe they hastened his early demise". Anyone got some samples? ========> Email to "j-c" at this site; email to "bogus" will bounce <======== Jack Campin: 11 Third Street, Newtongrange, Midlothian EH22 4PU; 0131 6604760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/purrhome.html> food intolerance data & recipes, Mac logic fonts, Scots traditional music files and CD-ROMs of Scottish music. |
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On 15 Dec 2004 23:40:24 GMT, (bogus address)
wrote: > >According to Desmond Seward in _The Monks of War_ (Penguin 1995), >Enrique de Villena, who became Master of the Order of Calatrava >in 1404 and died in retirement in 1434, "...compiled the first >Spanish cookery book, the _Arte Cisoria_. So bizarre are the >latter's recipes that some historians believe they hastened his >early demise". > >Anyone got some samples? > ::sigh:: First of all, it's not a cookbook, it's a carving and serving manual. Page images are online at: http://www.bib.ub.es/grewe/showbook.pl?gw60 I haven't read it cover to cover, but it doesn't really contain recipes. I does mention methods of preparation -- cut a chicken like this if it is to be roasted, but in THATway if it is to be stewed, or served with a sauce. The carving instructions extend to non-animal foods. De Villena tells us how to cut up a roasted carrot, and how to cut it if it is to be eaten raw. The only thing that might be considered bizarre is his list of foods which have been eaten in Spain over the centuries by various people, such as the Phoenecians, Greeks, Romans, Goths, Moors, and others. Some of the foods might be considered bizarre by some modern standards, and perhaps by de Villena's standards, too (Iizard, horse, etc.). There's no indication that he's eaten all these foods -- the whole passage seem to serve the point of indicating the diverse history of Spanish cuisine. Most of the book is detailed descriptions of how to cut up all kinds of food, from sheep to ducks to melons. Another chapter is a treatise on the necessary knives and their care. And then there are several chapters lamenting that the art of carving is being forgotten, and young men of good families should learn about it so that they can serve their lords at table, and perhaps even the king. p.s. There's no indication that paella was eaten in Spain at that time period. Robin Carroll-Mann "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams To email me, remove the fish |
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On 15 Dec 2004 23:40:24 GMT, (bogus address)
wrote: > >According to Desmond Seward in _The Monks of War_ (Penguin 1995), >Enrique de Villena, who became Master of the Order of Calatrava >in 1404 and died in retirement in 1434, "...compiled the first >Spanish cookery book, the _Arte Cisoria_. So bizarre are the >latter's recipes that some historians believe they hastened his >early demise". > >Anyone got some samples? > ::sigh:: First of all, it's not a cookbook, it's a carving and serving manual. Page images are online at: http://www.bib.ub.es/grewe/showbook.pl?gw60 I haven't read it cover to cover, but it doesn't really contain recipes. I does mention methods of preparation -- cut a chicken like this if it is to be roasted, but in THATway if it is to be stewed, or served with a sauce. The carving instructions extend to non-animal foods. De Villena tells us how to cut up a roasted carrot, and how to cut it if it is to be eaten raw. The only thing that might be considered bizarre is his list of foods which have been eaten in Spain over the centuries by various people, such as the Phoenecians, Greeks, Romans, Goths, Moors, and others. Some of the foods might be considered bizarre by some modern standards, and perhaps by de Villena's standards, too (Iizard, horse, etc.). There's no indication that he's eaten all these foods -- the whole passage seem to serve the point of indicating the diverse history of Spanish cuisine. Most of the book is detailed descriptions of how to cut up all kinds of food, from sheep to ducks to melons. Another chapter is a treatise on the necessary knives and their care. And then there are several chapters lamenting that the art of carving is being forgotten, and young men of good families should learn about it so that they can serve their lords at table, and perhaps even the king. p.s. There's no indication that paella was eaten in Spain at that time period. Robin Carroll-Mann "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams To email me, remove the fish |
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