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Posted by Earl Evleth to rec.travel.europe,
message-ID -- begin quote -- The last line says it all. The Bushes have a limited food imagination. It is what I imagined. Earl ***** "While it is an honour to serve the first family," he said, "it is the same thing, night in and night out, over an extended period. And it's time for me to be exploring all of my creative abilities and not limiting myself." AFTER cooking for two US presidents over 11 years, White House chef Walter Scheib has been fired, he told The New York Times today, adding that his ouster followed the appointment of a new social secretary to serve the first family. "We've been trying to find a way to satisfy the first lady's stylistic requirements," Scheib, 50, told the paper in a telephone interview, "and it has been difficult. Basically I was not successful in my attempt." Scheib, who was hired 11 years ago by then first lady Hillary Clinton, said he was asked to resign on Thursday, a few weeks after White House social secretary Cathy Fenton was succeeded by Lea Berman, the wife of a wealthy contributor to the Republican Party. The change, he said, did not bode well from the start. "Clearly with the new social secretary, there is a new set of eyes and a new vision.... She is a very hands-on social secretary, very involved with all aspects of food, flowers and decor. She clearly has a mandate," he said. Scheib will stay on his job until at least the end of the month, the newspaper said, adding that a search was under way for a new White House chef. While miffed at having been fired - "I hate to lose, because I am super-competitive," Scheib said he was not worried about the future and looked forward to a change in life. "While it is an honour to serve the first family," he said, "it is the same thing, night in and night out, over an extended period. And it's time for me to be exploring all of my creative abilities and not limiting myself." -- end quote -- ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 |
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![]() "Jack Campin - bogus address" > wrote in message ... > Posted by Earl Evleth to rec.travel.europe, > message-ID > > -- begin quote -- > The last line says it all. The Bushes have a limited food imagination. > It is what I imagined. > > Earl > > ***** > > "While it is an honour to serve the first family," he said, "it is > the same thing, night in and night out, over an extended period. And > it's time for me to be exploring all of my creative abilities and not > limiting myself." > > AFTER cooking for two US presidents over 11 years, White House chef > Walter Scheib has been fired, he told The New York Times today, adding > that his ouster followed the appointment of a new social secretary to > serve the first family. "We've been trying to find a way to satisfy > the first lady's stylistic requirements," Scheib, 50, told the paper > in a telephone interview, "and it has been difficult. Basically I was > not successful in my attempt." > > Scheib, who was hired 11 years ago by then first lady Hillary Clinton, > said he was asked to resign on Thursday, a few weeks after White House > social secretary Cathy Fenton was succeeded by Lea Berman, the wife of > a wealthy contributor to the Republican Party. > > The change, he said, did not bode well from the start. > > "Clearly with the new social secretary, there is a new set of eyes and > a new vision.... She is a very hands-on social secretary, very involved > with all aspects of food, flowers and decor. She clearly has a mandate," > he said. > > Scheib will stay on his job until at least the end of the month, the > newspaper said, adding that a search was under way for a new White > House chef. > > While miffed at having been fired - "I hate to lose, because I am > super-competitive," Scheib said he was not worried about the future > and looked forward to a change in life. > > "While it is an honour to serve the first family," he said, "it is > the same thing, night in and night out, over an extended period. And > it's time for me to be exploring all of my creative abilities and not > limiting myself." > -- end quote -- While it's been so long since Earl has regularly dined in the US (except for his daughter's table and Disneyworld on his anuual visits) and his political perspective is skewed beyond even the fringes of the US spectrum, I'd hardly consider him an objective commentator on US or White House dining. There are basically three different areas of "food service" at the White House. The bottom rung of the culinary ladder is the "White House Mess" open to privileged employees and selected guests. As with the House dining room, the ambience and attraction are of place not food. Better than Horn & Hardart once was, but nothing to rave about. Then there's the family quarters, served mostly not by the "White House Chef" but by Mess Stewards (in the new rate name) from the USNavy. Outsiders are few, kin folks or some the rare non-kin overnight guests. House specialties are of the "To order" genre and rumor has it that the family menu runs to a high level of "comfort foods", many of them traditional American or Southwestern/Tex-Mex, since the Prez gets more than his fill of "composed" dishes and elaborate menus. Then comes the WHC's part, the fancy dining, from state dinners to receptions, drama, appearance and selection. Rumor, again hazy in origin, has it that the social staff of the first term were in many cases directly or indirectly personally connected to the "First Family" and less concerned with gourmet repute than getting dinner served and finished on time, the President being a tough master when it comes to time. The Clintons had been even more notorious for their limited personal culinary horizons, but came with a staff of more grandiose aspirations. Now, in term 2, the Bush Presidency seems likely to fill some of the social and scheduling slots with wealthy or connected Republicans used to high style dining. I suspect the current WHC's departure has more to do with who hired him originally than with his menus or culinary skills. Direct info (not rumor).... A "close personal friend" is a member of the President's local - Central Texas - golfing foursome, and he and his wife - among my spouses closest friends - have been to "Dinner" at the ranch. Hamburgers cooked outside, all the traditional condiments, onion, lettuce and tomatoes, to add, apparently a regular choice for dining "en famille" or whatever the term is. I await some response as to the menu favorites of your current sovereign. I can only hope that you have informants among the kitchen staff at Balmoral or another of the water holes which she frequents. I suspect that hasa list of "comfort foods" too... TMO |
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> I await some response as to the menu favorites of your current sovereign.
> I can only hope that you have informants among the kitchen staff at > Balmoral or another of the water holes which she frequents. I suspect > that hasa list of "comfort foods" too... I have talked about that to people involved. Apparently the Royals can be a nightmare bunch of spoiled brats to work for and have a bizarre thing for mid-20th-century nursery foods. But they've all travelled enough round the Commonwealth that they must all be capable of downing mopane caterpillar vindaloo without a qualm. Meanwhile for food scandals in the Scottish parliament see http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/0000000CA631.htm ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 |
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"TOliver" > wrote
> traditional American or Southwestern/Tex-Mex, since the > Prez gets more than his fill of "composed" dishes and > elaborate menus. Fascinating. Ottoman sultans had a "food taster" whose job it was to taste the food before it was served to the sultans--just in case. Is there a similar job category in the White House, I wonder? How about in Buckingham Palace? -- Bob Kanyak's Doghouse http://members.aol.com/AlexiNestor/Poisons.htm |
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"Jack Campin - bogus address" > wrote in message
... > Posted by Earl Evleth to rec.travel.europe, > message-ID > > -- begin quote -- > The last line says it all. The Bushes have a limited food imagination. > It is what I imagined. > > Earl > > ***** > > "While it is an honour to serve the first family," he said, "it is > the same thing, night in and night out, over an extended period. And > it's time for me to be exploring all of my creative abilities and not > limiting myself." > > AFTER cooking for two US presidents over 11 years, White House chef > Walter Scheib has been fired, he told The New York Times today, adding > that his ouster followed the appointment of a new social secretary to > serve the first family. "We've been trying to find a way to satisfy > the first lady's stylistic requirements," Scheib, 50, told the paper > in a telephone interview, "and it has been difficult. Basically I was > not successful in my attempt." > > Scheib, who was hired 11 years ago by then first lady Hillary Clinton, > said he was asked to resign on Thursday, a few weeks after White House > social secretary Cathy Fenton was succeeded by Lea Berman, the wife of > a wealthy contributor to the Republican Party. > > The change, he said, did not bode well from the start. > > "Clearly with the new social secretary, there is a new set of eyes and > a new vision.... She is a very hands-on social secretary, very involved > with all aspects of food, flowers and decor. She clearly has a mandate," > he said. > > Scheib will stay on his job until at least the end of the month, the > newspaper said, adding that a search was under way for a new White > House chef. > > While miffed at having been fired - "I hate to lose, because I am > super-competitive," Scheib said he was not worried about the future > and looked forward to a change in life. > > "While it is an honour to serve the first family," he said, "it is > the same thing, night in and night out, over an extended period. And > it's time for me to be exploring all of my creative abilities and not > limiting myself." > -- end quote -- > > ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== > Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 > <http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/> for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 > stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 Probably made a mess of the nuculear soup. |
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