In article >, Olivers
> wrote:

> The stories are too frequent, too reasonable and so well attuned to
> observations of human nature today to have much deniability on the grounds
> of "lack of evidence".

So do stories about the sun going round the earth. Any other theory
defies common sense and the evidence of my eyes.

Lazarus

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> In article >, Olivers
> > wrote:
>
>> The stories are too frequent, too reasonable and so well attuned to
>> observations of human nature today to have much deniability on the
>> grounds of "lack of evidence".
>
> So do stories about the sun going round the earth. Any other theory
> defies common sense and the evidence of my eyes.
>


You realize of course that it does. It's all a matter of perspective. Why
every noon I used to have to go out on the Bridge Wing with my sextant to
wait for it to reach its zenith and pass by on the way around, thus
signifying that local Noon had arrived. Of course, meanwhile the stars are
running their predictable courses around the earth so they can arrive at
the altitude necessary for dawn's fix.

Why would you disbelieve repeated and quite reasonbale anecdotes of groups
forced to dine repeatedly on foods unfamiliar to their childhood and
previous experiences and objecting to same? I suspect that an individual
raised in rural England, unlikely to have ever eaten fresh fish,
transported on a diet of salt meat and dried peas to cold new England and
forces to eat boiled salmon and lobster every day could be expected to
raise his/her voice in objection. Let's face it...caviar in your baked
potato goes well for the first week, but there comes a night when you'll
beg for bacon.

TMO

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 17:43:03 -0600, Olivers >
wrote:


> I suspect that an individual
>raised in rural England, unlikely to have ever eaten fresh fish,
>transported on a diet of salt meat and dried peas to cold new England and
>forces to eat boiled salmon and lobster every day could be expected to
>raise his/her voice in objection.

And how much more so when it's badly cooked, as it likely was...
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In article >, Olivers
> wrote:

> Lazarus Cooke muttered....
>

> >
> > So do stories about the sun going round the earth. Any other theory
> > defies common sense and the evidence of my eyes.
> >
>
> You realize of course that it does.

I do

> Why would you disbelieve repeated and quite reasonbale anecdotes of groups
> forced to dine repeatedly on foods unfamiliar to their childhood and
> previous experiences and objecting to same?

I don't necessarily disbelieve them. I just become suspicious when the
same tale (which has a moral attached) pops up all over the place, and
yet I haven't seen a primary source.

When I see a primary source that I can check, I'll believe it. Until
then, I'll stay wary.
(I don't want to start talking about WMD...)

Lazarus

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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:37:47 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
> wrote:

>In article >, Olivers
> wrote:
>
>> Lazarus Cooke muttered....
>>
>
>> >
>> > So do stories about the sun going round the earth. Any other theory
>> > defies common sense and the evidence of my eyes.
>> >
>>
>> You realize of course that it does.
>
>I do
>
>> Why would you disbelieve repeated and quite reasonbale anecdotes of groups
>> forced to dine repeatedly on foods unfamiliar to their childhood and
>> previous experiences and objecting to same?
>
>I don't necessarily disbelieve them. I just become suspicious when the
>same tale (which has a moral attached) pops up all over the place, and
>yet I haven't seen a primary source.
>
Pops up all over the place? In northern colonies of a country that has
never been big on cooking prowess or known for lavishing unnecessary
expense on apprentices or indentured servants?

And just what is the moral? I missed that part. I thought it was about
people getting tired of the same food every day, even though it is now
expensive.


>When I see a primary source that I can check, I'll believe it. Until
>then, I'll stay wary.
> (I don't want to start talking about WMD...)
>
>Lazarus


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>
> And just what is the moral? I missed that part. I thought it was about
> people getting tired of the same food every day, even though it is now
> expensive.

The moral is that even the finest products provide no true comfort.
Compare the Princess and the pea, or most fairy stories.

L

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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:04:06 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
> wrote:

>
>>
>> And just what is the moral? I missed that part. I thought it was about
>> people getting tired of the same food every day, even though it is now
>> expensive.
>
>The moral is that even the finest products provide no true comfort.
>Compare the Princess and the pea, or most fairy stories.
>
If I'd have been thinking of a moral for it, it would have been
'monotony breeds boredom and boredom breeds action.'
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:04:06 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
> wrote:

>
>>
>> And just what is the moral? I missed that part. I thought it was about
>> people getting tired of the same food every day, even though it is now
>> expensive.
>
>The moral is that even the finest products provide no true comfort.
>Compare the Princess and the pea, or most fairy stories.
>
Oh.

Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC J36 Gjo/a


"Be careful. The toe you stepped on yesterday may be connected to the ass you have to kiss today." --Former mayor Ciancia

"Rodney Myrvaagnes" > a écrit dans le message de
...
> On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:37:47 +0000, Lazarus Cooke
> > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Olivers
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Lazarus Cooke muttered....
> >>
> >> Why would you disbelieve repeated and quite reasonbale anecdotes of
groups
> >> forced to dine repeatedly on foods unfamiliar to their childhood and
> >> previous experiences and objecting to same?
> >
> >I don't necessarily disbelieve them. I just become suspicious when the
> >same tale (which has a moral attached) pops up all over the place, and
> >yet I haven't seen a primary source.
> >
> Pops up all over the place? In northern colonies of a country that has
> never been big on cooking prowess or known for lavishing unnecessary
> expense on apprentices or indentured servants?

Sorry, but yes, it seems to pop up all over the place, I even heard that
the carpenter's apprentices on the Loire river had stated in their contract
of apprenticeship that they should eat salmon no more than thrice a week.
Once again no primary source offered, neither did I search for one, salmon
being (documentedly) a most common fish in Loire river (among others)
before the second half of twentieth century, it was plausible enough for
me, even if not (by a stretch) for an historian.

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In article >, Christophe Bachmann
> wrote:


> Sorry, but yes, it seems to pop up all over the place, I even heard that
> the carpenter's apprentices on the Loire river had stated in their contract
> of apprenticeship that they should eat salmon no more than thrice a week.

Exactly. It's an urban/rural legend.

Lazarus

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