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Historic (rec.food.historic) Discussing and discovering how food was made and prepared way back when--From ancient times down until (& possibly including or even going slightly beyond) the times when industrial revolution began to change our lives. |
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ASmith1946 extrapolated from data available...
> > We're back to this discussion -- which I found useful-- so let me try > again. Are there commonalities among regional Italian foods? If the > answer is yes, what are they? Does this include dishes with tomatoes > as ingredients? > > If the answer is no, then there doesn't seem to be an "Italian > cuisine," only local cusines-- or are there just individual > preferences? > My first trip to Italy, 1962 or so, had fortunately been preceded by 6 months in Brooklyn and Manhattan, Brooklyn certainly a locale where one could safely classify the tomato as king. I know cannoli and clams Oregenata (sp?)have no tomatoes, but beyond that, Brooklyn, Queens and the great tomato growing plains of Long Island, a veritable insular Campagna, are strongly pomidoculturalized. For serving naval personnel, Italy was largely Southern, and for my ship to venture North to Livorno or Genoa was as if we were visiting a new land, after the Vesuvian Bay, Palermo, Taranto - a less tomato-ee cuisine, Augusta Bay, Catania, Bari and the like including hops to Sigonella. On my salary at the time, an Enswine's $222 + $47.88 less taxes and messbill monthly, I and my kind dined modestly, and modest restaurant fare in Southern Italy was pretty firmly tomato-based....although I did learn to make a number of sauces, quick and slow, which has seved me well in life, although trying to convey to my spouse and chirren the differences between "Tomato Gravy", arrabiata, ameritrice', marinara, puttanesca, etc. can be a daunting task, much less explaining that even "Cream of Tomato" must have been an Italian thing invented by some butter gorged Bolognese farting around with the ragu. Opportunities to eat in Italian homes (other than the very hospitable poor and modest middle class to whom one brought gifts in the form of foodstuffs cheap and available to me, expensive and hard to find for them) in the South were few, although the Navy Officers Club in Taranto featured a menu that was clearly "Northern", but then the officers in the Italian navy at the time seemed overwhelmingly Northern in fact or in pretense. I'll forward the notion that Italian cuisine can be separated into two "styles" on some mushy Southwest/Northeast hazy line of demarcation, but that there are a number of such strongly identifiable regional and even community cuisines which have an identity of their own...Bologna and Florence qualify, Livorno's really a littoral region, and some would claim that Rome even possesses neighborhood cuisines. Clearly, the Northeast stands either alone or as a Transmontane cuisine. Then there's Venice..... But even that's not sufficient, for except in small towns (and not always there), much of Italian restaurant cuisine has become homogenized to fit the owners' or the surroundings' profile of projected customers, too often the sort of generic Italoturistico, "Continental, or "Business traveler". TMO |
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