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Historic (rec.food.historic) Discussing and discovering how food was made and prepared way back when--From ancient times down until (& possibly including or even going slightly beyond) the times when industrial revolution began to change our lives. |
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Please correct any of the several following errors:
1. Tomatoes in the New World only. 2. Used in South America widely throughout the various cultures there. Not widely used in North America 3. Exported to Europe in the 16th (?) Century, spreads to Asia (and Africa?) along Colonial lines. 4. Is currently very popular worldwide. This brings up a few questions: 1. A great number of lines on this newsgroup have been dedicated to a debate over the role of the tomato in Italian cooking. While staying out of that debate, nobody can deny the tomato is an honored and frequent companion to pasta. By conservative estimates (again, unconfirmed; I'm sadly without any access to sources beyond popular television shows), pasta has been in Italy since the twelfth century. What was going on the pasta for those four hundred years? Of course, I know the answer, sort of. My favorite pasta sauce is tomato-less: a simple aglio-olio (garlic-and-oil) with, of late, two anchovy fillets dissolved. Certainly there were other sauces? 2. Given the bio-engineering skills of the Mayans, seeing the improvements they made to maise, one wonders what the tomatoes might have looked like when the ancient South Americans found them. |
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Also the seeds are VERY survivable.
Go to any Waste Water Facility, and you will find them growing like weeds, as they go right through the body and wind up there. Ron C. ================================ On Tue, 25 May 2004 14:03:43 -0400, "Joe Cee Phuss" > wrote: >Please correct any of the several following errors: > >1. Tomatoes in the New World only. > >2. Used in South America widely throughout the various cultures there. Not >widely used in North America > >3. Exported to Europe in the 16th (?) Century, spreads to Asia (and Africa?) >along Colonial lines. > >4. Is currently very popular worldwide. > >This brings up a few questions: > >1. A great number of lines on this newsgroup have been dedicated to a debate >over the role of the tomato in Italian cooking. While staying out of that >debate, nobody can deny the tomato is an honored and frequent companion to >pasta. By conservative estimates (again, unconfirmed; I'm sadly without any >access to sources beyond popular television shows), pasta has been in Italy >since the twelfth century. What was going on the pasta for those four >hundred years? Of course, I know the answer, sort of. My favorite pasta >sauce is tomato-less: a simple aglio-olio (garlic-and-oil) with, of late, >two anchovy fillets dissolved. Certainly there were other sauces? > >2. Given the bio-engineering skills of the Mayans, seeing the improvements >they made to maise, one wonders what the tomatoes might have looked like >when the ancient South Americans found them. > |
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Two of my favorites from 15th C Italy are butter, cheese, and fresh herbs.
Another is butter, cheese, and spices (cinnamon, ginger, clove, sugar, nutmeg). toodles, gretchen --On Saturday, January 22, 2005 11:07 AM -0800 "Dr " > wrote: >> 1. A great number of lines on this newsgroup have been dedicated to a >> debate over the role of the tomato in Italian cooking. While staying >> out of that debate, nobody can deny the tomato is an honored and >> frequent companion to pasta. By conservative estimates (again, >> unconfirmed; I'm sadly without any access to sources beyond popular >> television shows), pasta has been in Italy since the twelfth century. >> What was going on the pasta for those four hundred years? Of course, I >> know the answer, sort of. My favorite pasta sauce is tomato-less: a >> simple aglio-olio (garlic-and-oil) with, of late, two anchovy fillets >> dissolved. Certainly there were other sauces? |
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