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After ordering the "Carne Asada" combination plate in a Mexican
taqueria, I swore I would never gnaw on that dry, tough cut of meat again. The apparent problem is that the so-called "carne asada" is really *fried meat*, prepared as the customer orders it, not slow roasted meat that the cook started roasting hours in advance. Flank steak (aldilla or arrachera) can be slow cooked to make it tender, so can eye of round steak (cuete). Cuete y jamon en rajas y crema 3/4 kg. de cuete en trozo bien limpiecito 1/4 kg. jamón de pierna cortado delgadito 1/2 kg. chile poblano 1/2 kg. cebolla blanca 1/2 kg. crema 1 diente de ajo zanahoria tocino Mechamos el cuete con la zanahoria y el tocino, lo embarramos (1) con el ajo y lo ponemos a cocer en la olla expres con un poquito de sal. O, lo puedes cocer en la olla normal a fuego muy lento hasta que la carne quede suavecita Tostamos y pelamos los chiles poblanos, ya limpios los cortamos para rajas. Cortamos la cebolla en rodajas muy delgadas. Las ponemos a freir y cuando esten medio transparentes agregamos los chiles. Poner sal al gusto y agregar la crema. Cortar en rebanadas delgadas la carne con el cuchillo eléctrico. En un refractario vamos a poner una cama de cuete, una de jamón y una de rajas y así sucesivamente. Hornear por unos 20 min. para calentar y servir. http://foros.forosmexico.com/showthread.php?t=58023 (1) "Barro" is mud or clay. "Embarramos" means "we cover with mud or clay". Most illogical, Captain. Maybe the author should have used "cubrimos" or "espolveremos" instead? .. |
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![]() "The Galloping Gourmand" > wrote in message ups.com... After ordering the "Carne Asada" combination plate in a Mexican taqueria, I swore I would never gnaw on that dry, tough cut of meat again. The apparent problem is that the so-called "carne asada" is really *fried meat*, prepared as the customer orders it, not slow roasted meat that the cook started roasting hours in advance. Flank steak (aldilla or arrachera) can be slow cooked to make it tender, so can eye of round steak (cuete). For this I unblock dos gringos ?????? Booger are you really serious about what you wrote? Asada is fried meat, "not slow roasted meat that the cook started roasting hours in advance"? Do you actually understand what asada is? |
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On Mar 2, 11:41�pm, "Gunner" <gunner@ spam.com> wrote:
> Booger are you really serious about what you wrote? Asada is fried meat, > "not slow > roasted meat that the cook started roasting hours in advance"? *Do you > actually understand what asada is? "Asar" means "to roast", by a direct application of dry heat, without an intervening medium such as water, grease, or oil. "Coccion" is boiling in water (hervir) or frying (freir) in grease or oil. "Freir" can be broken down into deep fat frying, slow frying (sauteeing) with less grease, and "saltear", where the cook keeps the food from sticking by constant motion of the frying pan. "Estofar" is stewing food in its own juices. "Asado a la parilla" is a method of roasting, because it exposes the food directly to the radiant and convecting heat from a fire or hot coals. But the guy in the kitchen of your typical taqueria doesn't have an open fire and a grille. Instead, he has a *griddle*, a flat piece of iron called a "plancha" and that flat piece of iron will be seasoned with burnt on grease, or the fry cook will be greasing or oiling the griddle to keep whatever he is cooking from sticking. There's a lot of confusion about grills and griddles, and I have never seen a taqueria called a "Mexican griddle", but there are a lot of "Mexican grilles" around California's "gold coast" nowadays. The best way to tell if you're eating at a "Mexican grille" is when you see the flames in the kitchen. But that might not always indicate the fire is intentional. One of my favorite biker hangouts was a donut shop that had to cease operations after the Mexican running the deep fat fryer set the place on fire after coming to work drunk. |
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![]() "The Galloping Gourmand" > wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 2, 11:41?pm, "Gunner" <gunner@ spam.com> wrote: """Asado a la parilla" is a method of roasting, because it exposes the food directly to the radiant and convecting heat from a fire or hot coals."" Actually it translates more like" meat of the grill", la parilla being the grill and a pretty big difference in the cooking ( roasting) of meat in an oven or on a grill, but we digress. ""But the guy in the kitchen of your typical taqueria doesn't have an open fire and a grille. Instead, he has a *griddle*, a flat piece of iron called a "plancha" and that flat piece of iron will be seasoned with burnt on grease, or the fry cook will be greasing or oiling the griddle to keep whatever he is cooking from sticking. There's a lot of confusion about grills and griddles, and I have never seen a taqueria called a "Mexican griddle", but there are a lot of "Mexican grilles" around California's "gold coast" nowadays."" Actually you can pan grill or even use a griddle (comal) to cook meats and even get the grill marks. Flank steak and Skirt is like Squid, you either cook it very quickly or braise it for a long time but you should also learn to cut across the grain. You usually will not find braised meals in a restaurant setting. Here is Rick Bayless' take on Carne Asada Tampiquena, aka flank steak http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/carneasada.htm |
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On Mar 8, 1:56�pm, "Gunner" <gunner@ spam.com> wrote:
> "The Galloping Gourmand" > wrote in oglegroups.com... > On Mar 2, 11:41?pm, "Gunner" <gunner@ spam.com> wrote: > > """Asado a la parilla" is a method of roasting, because it exposes the > food directly to the radiant and convecting heat from a fire or hot > coals."" > > Actually it translates more like" meat of the grill", * la parilla being the > grill *and a pretty big difference in the cooking ( roasting) of meat *in an > oven or on a grill, * but we digress. Actually, much of the neophyte's confusion about Mexican cooking is misuse of words such as "asado", "fritado", "cocido", "cazuela", "enchilado", etc. If the newbie doesn't know much Spanish, he/she is frquently going to think that the cooking process is the result. > Here is *Rick Bayless' take on Carne Asada Tampiquena, aka flank steak > > http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/carneasada.htm OK, Bayless' recipe uses at least two processes to tenderize the meat. However, we don't know whether the meat was aged, but the tenderizing effects of putrefaction are well known. Aging meat can be a gamble for the restaurateur if he doesn't use a lot of any particular meat or fowl. Somebody in a London restaurant once asked other diners about whether a pheasant was fit to eat. The first person wasn't sure, so I tasted it and agreed that the bird beyond tenderized, it was definitely rotten. Then Bayless' recipe says that the beef was marinated in lemon juice for four hours and was somewhat tenderized by the effects of citric acid. The meat was actually fried in oil for 1.5 to 2.0 minutes and then the cooking process continued as the warm meat "rested" in the oven until the cook was ready to assemble the plate. A fry cook in a Mexican grille is likely to just grab the meat off a tray and slap it on the grille for about two minutes. I remember getting rare pork chops off a grille at Denny's once. Apparently the fry cook thought that grilling a pork chop was the same thing as grilling a rare steak, that the pork should be bloody in the center. I sent the offending pork chops back. |
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![]() "The Galloping Gourmand" > wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 8, 1:56?pm, "Gunner" <gunner@ spam.com> wrote: > "The Galloping Gourmand" > wrote in > oglegroups.com... > On Mar 2, 11:41?pm, "Gunner" <gunner@ spam.com> wrote: > My, my. You do wax and wane around facts FB. #1 your tough meat had nothing to do with the fact the cook was a Mexican nor that he used a griddle. # 2 Aging the meat , Marinade, the rotten pheasant in England and the undercooked pork, none of that had anything to do with squat in this issue. #3 Fact is you can pan grill flank or a skirt steak and you can use a griddle to do it hell you can even use that plow disc. learn your beef. #4 your stupid diatribe was meant to disparage Mexicans. The Haute Cuisine Biker Donut shop was stupid to not have a standard restaurant fire suppression equipment installed, perhaps he has cheap insurance that did not require it or the code enforcement is very lax in your area. The stupid owner allow a drunk to cook for him. You were AF enlisted, you know the boss is always responsible for his crew if he is really a boss, so don't give your urban legends bs. Now, the inference statement of the neophyte not knowing "asado", "fritado", "cocido", "cazuela","enchilado", etc. is laughable knowing your propensity for being so far off when it comes to general culinary knowledge and the mistakes you have made in your El Norte lecture series trying to translating the Prof's copyrighted work she did. Rather than continuing to blatantly plagiarize Professor Lopez, why don't you show me that you really do know a bit about cooking? Clean up the mistakes and then put some recipes with those el Norte recipe titles you put up? Oh and properly give the Professor her credit for your "work" |
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