The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a
"used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they
did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's
where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of
wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got
better brands at very low prices that way.

The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the
old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy
any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe
that's a good thing.

Bob

zxcvbob wrote:
>
> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a
> "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they
> did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's
> where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of
> wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got
> better brands at very low prices that way.
>
> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the
> old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy
> any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe
> that's a good thing.
>
> Bob
You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop in
sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh
meats go in the used meat bin.

George

George Shirley wrote:
> zxcvbob wrote:
>>
>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with
>> a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things
>> they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's
>> where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a
>> package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness
>> date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way.
>>
>> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not
>> the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I
>> won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved
>> meat -- maybe that's a good thing.
>>
>> Bob
> You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop
> in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh
> meats go in the used meat bin.

I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing

Ophelia wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with
>>> a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things
>>> they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's
>>> where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a
>>> package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness
>>> date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way.
>>>
>>> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not
>>> the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I
>>> won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved
>>> meat -- maybe that's a good thing.
>>>
>>> Bob
>> You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I shop
>> in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only the fresh
>> meats go in the used meat bin.
>
> I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing
>
>
It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats
about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially reduced.
It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of retail. I know
when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there specifically to
buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks.

George

George Shirley wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one
>>>> with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things
>>>> they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats.
>>>> That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a
>>>> package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its
>>>> freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way.
>>>>
>>>> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not
>>>> the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I
>>>> won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved
>>>> meat -- maybe that's a good thing.
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>> You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I
>>> shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only
>>> the fresh meats go in the used meat bin.
>>
>> I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing
>>
>>
> It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats
> about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially
> reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of
> retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there
> specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and
> other good steaks.

I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' )

Ophelia wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one
>>>>> with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things
>>>>> they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats.
>>>>> That's where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a
>>>>> package of wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its
>>>>> freshness date?) I got better brands at very low prices that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not
>>>>> the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I
>>>>> won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved
>>>>> meat -- maybe that's a good thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>> You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I
>>>> shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only
>>>> the fresh meats go in the used meat bin.
>>> I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing
>>>
>>>
>> It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the meats
>> about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially
>> reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of
>> retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there
>> specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin, and
>> other good steaks.
>
> I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' )
>
>
Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks.

George

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
>
> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a
> "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did
> was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I
> used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or
> a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands
> at very low prices that way.
>
> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old
> stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any
> more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's
> a good thing.
>
> Bob

I had the same reaction when my local grocer got a new manager in the
produce department. They used to put 'about-to-spoil' peppers, apples,
pomegranates, bananas, you name it, in plastic wrapped packages for a tenth
of the regular 'fresh' price. And in allot of cases, I'd buy it all up to
make things like banana muffins, pepper jelly, pomegranate jelly, etc. They
don't do it anymore, so I don't get to buy a whole bunch of stuff to put up
like I used to.

The meat guy still puts stuff out in the used meat bin though. Yesterday I
got medium ground beef for .49 a pound - I bought 12 pounds! Will make
great spaghetti sauces, soups, lasagnes, and a bunch of other stuff for
months!!

Kathi

Kathi Jones wrote:
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a
>> "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did
>> was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I
>> used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or
>> a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands
>> at very low prices that way.
>>
>> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old
>> stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any
>> more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's
>> a good thing.
>>
>> Bob
>
> I had the same reaction when my local grocer got a new manager in the
> produce department. They used to put 'about-to-spoil' peppers, apples,
> pomegranates, bananas, you name it, in plastic wrapped packages for a tenth
> of the regular 'fresh' price. And in allot of cases, I'd buy it all up to
> make things like banana muffins, pepper jelly, pomegranate jelly, etc. They
> don't do it anymore, so I don't get to buy a whole bunch of stuff to put up
> like I used to.
>
> The meat guy still puts stuff out in the used meat bin though. Yesterday I
> got medium ground beef for .49 a pound - I bought 12 pounds! Will make
> great spaghetti sauces, soups, lasagnes, and a bunch of other stuff for
> months!!
>
> Kathi
>
>
I have to one up you Kathi. Friend just brought me twelve pounds of
ground whole cow in two pound packages. To top it all off he also
brought me a round steak that was about 20 inches across, the whole
section of a calf's leg, and a couple of packages of filet mignon. I
about passed out when he handed me the bag. I knew we were good friends
but not that good. Note: He runs a few cows on 110 acres nearby, and he
had culled a barren cow (ground meat) and had butchered a big calf. Free
meat is always good.

Our market just tosses the fruit when they can't sell it. I've been
after the produce manager to call me when he has a lot of it. Figure I
could at least make wine out of it if nothing else.

George

George Shirley wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one
>>>>>> with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first
>>>>>> things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated
>>>>>> packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured
>>>>>> meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni
>>>>>> is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low
>>>>>> prices that
>>>>>> way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat,
>>>>>> not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I
>>>>>> won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less
>>>>>> preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>> You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I
>>>>> shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only
>>>>> the fresh meats go in the used meat bin.
>>>> I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the
>>> meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially
>>> reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of
>>> retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there
>>> specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin,
>>> and other good steaks.
>>
>> I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' )
>>
>>
> Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks.

<G>

I am not sure what a redneck is.

Ophelia wrote:
> George Shirley wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>>>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>>>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one
>>>>>>> with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first
>>>>>>> things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated
>>>>>>> packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured
>>>>>>> meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni
>>>>>>> is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at very low
>>>>>>> prices that
>>>>>>> way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat,
>>>>>>> not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I
>>>>>>> won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less
>>>>>>> preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I
>>>>>> shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker. Only
>>>>>> the fresh meats go in the used meat bin.
>>>>> I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the
>>>> meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price substantially
>>>> reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had for 50% off of
>>>> retail. I know when our butcher is putting the meat out and go there
>>>> specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone, porterhouse, sirloin,
>>>> and other good steaks.
>>> I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used' )
>>>
>>>
>> Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks.
>
> <G>
>
> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>
>
>
>
Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because
they always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of
ther necks were sunburned.

Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does
"redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards
and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH

George

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
.. .
> Kathi Jones wrote:
>> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a
>>> "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they
>>> did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's
>>> where I used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of
>>> wienies or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got
>>> better brands at very low prices that way.
>>>
>>> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the
>>> old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy
>>> any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe
>>> that's a good thing.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> I had the same reaction when my local grocer got a new manager in the
>> produce department. They used to put 'about-to-spoil' peppers, apples,
>> pomegranates, bananas, you name it, in plastic wrapped packages for a
>> tenth of the regular 'fresh' price. And in allot of cases, I'd buy it
>> all up to make things like banana muffins, pepper jelly, pomegranate
>> jelly, etc. They don't do it anymore, so I don't get to buy a whole
>> bunch of stuff to put up like I used to.
>>
>> The meat guy still puts stuff out in the used meat bin though. Yesterday
>> I got medium ground beef for .49 a pound - I bought 12 pounds! Will make
>> great spaghetti sauces, soups, lasagnes, and a bunch of other stuff for
>> months!!
>>
>> Kathi
> I have to one up you Kathi. Friend just brought me twelve pounds of ground
> whole cow in two pound packages. To top it all off he also brought me a
> round steak that was about 20 inches across, the whole section of a calf's
> leg, and a couple of packages of filet mignon. I about passed out when he
> handed me the bag. I knew we were good friends but not that good. Note: He
> runs a few cows on 110 acres nearby, and he had culled a barren cow
> (ground meat) and had butchered a big calf. Free meat is always good.
>
> Our market just tosses the fruit when they can't sell it. I've been after
> the produce manager to call me when he has a lot of it. Figure I could at
> least make wine out of it if nothing else.
>
> George

Local manager at the store I worked at started tossing the 'almost' stuff,
too. He's the one I worked for in the fish and seafood department (I
couldn't continue to work for the greedy SOB). My advice is, if the meat
manager is still the same, make an acquaintance of the person, ask them if
they got any 'overruns' or near to expirations in the back. Sometimes, if
they are a good egg, they will mark them down for you just to move the
stock, since if they don't and it either gets tossed or returned, they have
to count it against their department as 'shrink' (or a loss). Any money
they can make on it makes the department look good. The same with produce.
The meat department always had 'overruns' (double orders or order for more
than they needed) as the manager always double checked and changed the order
of the meat manager who had done it just fine for 12 years before the 'big
guy' came in. We got boneless pork ribs for 99 cents a pound due to the
fact the meat manager ordered what she could sell in a week and the store
manager tripled the amount.....she had to cut her losses and get what she
could for the four pallets of pork in the freezer. If the staff 'in the
know' know you are ready willing and able to take the stuff of their hands,
it's a win win situation for them, they get rid of the merchandise and their
shrink numbers go down, and you get a bargain you can use. It's best to go
to the department heads, though.
-ginny

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:

>> I have to one up you Kathi. Friend just brought me twelve pounds of ground
>> whole cow in two pound packages. To top it all off he also brought me a
>> round steak that was about 20 inches across, the whole section of a calf's
>> leg, and a couple of packages of filet mignon. I about passed out when he
>> handed me the bag. I knew we were good friends but not that good. Note: He
>> runs a few cows on 110 acres nearby, and he had culled a barren cow
>> (ground meat) and had butchered a big calf. Free meat is always good.
>>
>> Our market just tosses the fruit when they can't sell it. I've been after
>> the produce manager to call me when he has a lot of it. Figure I could at
>> least make wine out of it if nothing else.
>>
>> George
>
> Local manager at the store I worked at started tossing the 'almost' stuff,
> too. He's the one I worked for in the fish and seafood department (I
> couldn't continue to work for the greedy SOB). My advice is, if the meat
> manager is still the same, make an acquaintance of the person, ask them if
> they got any 'overruns' or near to expirations in the back. Sometimes, if
> they are a good egg, they will mark them down for you just to move the
> stock, since if they don't and it either gets tossed or returned, they have
> to count it against their department as 'shrink' (or a loss). Any money
> they can make on it makes the department look good. The same with produce.
> The meat department always had 'overruns' (double orders or order for more
> than they needed) as the manager always double checked and changed the order
> of the meat manager who had done it just fine for 12 years before the 'big
> guy' came in. We got boneless pork ribs for 99 cents a pound due to the
> fact the meat manager ordered what she could sell in a week and the store
> manager tripled the amount.....she had to cut her losses and get what she
> could for the four pallets of pork in the freezer. If the staff 'in the
> know' know you are ready willing and able to take the stuff of their hands,
> it's a win win situation for them, they get rid of the merchandise and their
> shrink numbers go down, and you get a bargain you can use. It's best to go
> to the department heads, though.
> -ginny
>
>
> The produce manager is a long-time friend but is out for medical at the
moment and the head butcher just retired last week and the market is
looking for another. When Greg, the produce guy, is there I can often
buy whole flats of going off produce, same with the old butcher, all
except preserved meats (excepting hams)since the vendor gets those back
for some reason. Maybe they sell them at Big Lots or something.

Before the butcher retired I bought two butt portion Cook's hams for 79
cents a lb even though they were marked 99 cents a lb for Christmas. The
expiration date was before Christmas so he sold them to me for less to
get them out of the store. I smoked one for Christmas and froze the
other. Went back this week and bought another ten pounder for 69 cents a
lb, marked that way too and two hickory smoked Cook's butt portion hams,
usually something over $2 a lb for $1.16. Long as I have plenty of
freezer room it won't go bad as I put them in a big vac bag and vacuum
seal them for later use.

Good advice though Ginny, I may scout the other two markets in town and
shmooze with the department managers.

George

George Shirley wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> George Shirley wrote:
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>> George Shirley wrote:
>>>>>>> zxcvbob wrote:
>>>>>>>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one
>>>>>>>> with a "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the
>>>>>>>> first things they did was stop selling any close-dated/outdated
>>>>>>>> packaged meats. That's where I used to buy most of my cured
>>>>>>>> meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or a whole pepperoni
>>>>>>>> is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands at
>>>>>>>> very low prices that
>>>>>>>> way. The manager said that they want people buying the *good*
>>>>>>>> meat, not the old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old
>>>>>>>> stuff away. I won't buy any more of the fresh meat, I'll just
>>>>>>>> buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's a good thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>> You're thinking wrong Bob, think "DUMPSTER DIVING." The market I
>>>>>>> shop in sends out-of-date preserved meats back to the maker.
>>>>>>> Only the fresh meats go in the used meat bin.
>>>>>> I can't get my head around the 'used' meat thing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It's country boy slang for the area of the meat market where the
>>>>> meats about to go out-of-date are placed and the price
>>>>> substantially reduced. It's still good meat and often can be had
>>>>> for 50% off of retail. I know when our butcher is putting the
>>>>> meat out and go there specifically to buy good stuff like T-bone,
>>>>> porterhouse, sirloin, and other good steaks.
>>>> I know George, but I am sure you undertand what we know as 'used'
>>>> )
>>> Yep, and that's what makes it funny to us rednecks.
>>
>> <G>
>>
>> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because
> they always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of
> ther necks were sunburned.

Nothing wrong with hard work!


> Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does
> "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards
> and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH

Thanks George. I haven't heard of Foxworthy, but now I understand

Ophelia wrote:


>>> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because
>> they always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of
>> ther necks were sunburned.
>
> Nothing wrong with hard work!
>
>
>> Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does
>> "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards
>> and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH
>
> Thanks George. I haven't heard of Foxworthy, but now I understand
>
I lost my redneck status in the early seventies when I finally went to
college. After graduation I just became ordinary oil field trash. Go
here for some of Foxworthy's definitions of a redneck.
http://www.fortogden.com/foredneck.html

OB: preserving: Rednecks do tend to raise large broods of children and
hence, raise large gardens and put up the food.

George

"zxcvbob" > wrote in message
...
>
> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a
> "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did
> was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I
> used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies or
> a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better brands
> at very low prices that way.
>
> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the old
> stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy any
> more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe that's
> a good thing.
>

Do you have any soup kitchens or the like in your area? For a number of
reasons, a lot of these places are really hurting for donations now. If
such exists in your area, why not give them a call and explain the change in
store policy? They may be able to convince the manager that it's better to
get a charitable donation write-off than nothing.

And it really is a pity to have perfectly good meat go into a landfill
rather than the belly of a hungry person.

Anny

George Shirley wrote:
> I lost my redneck status in the early seventies when I finally went to
> college. After graduation I just became ordinary oil field trash. Go
> here for some of Foxworthy's definitions of a redneck.
> http://www.fortogden.com/foredneck.html

LOLOL they are terrible... but funny I am sure you were never a member
of such a group

>
> OB: preserving: Rednecks do tend to raise large broods of children and
> hence, raise large gardens and put up the food.

They do indeed have a saving grace)

"Anny Middon" > wrote in message
t...
> "zxcvbob" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> The little grocery store that I shop at sometimes; the only one with a
>> "used meat bin", has new management, and one of the first things they did
>> was stop selling any close-dated/outdated packaged meats. That's where I
>> used to buy most of my cured meats. (Who cares if a package of wienies
>> or a whole pepperoni is a week past its freshness date?) I got better
>> brands at very low prices that way.
>>
>> The manager said that they want people buying the *good* meat, not the
>> old stuff. So I guess they will throw the old stuff away. I won't buy
>> any more of the fresh meat, I'll just buy less preserved meat -- maybe
>> that's a good thing.
>>
>
> Do you have any soup kitchens or the like in your area? For a number of
> reasons, a lot of these places are really hurting for donations now. If
> such exists in your area, why not give them a call and explain the change
> in store policy? They may be able to convince the manager that it's
> better to get a charitable donation write-off than nothing.
>
> And it really is a pity to have perfectly good meat go into a landfill
> rather than the belly of a hungry person.
>
> Anny
>
>

(big snip)

>> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because they
> always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of ther necks
> were sunburned.
>
> Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does "redneck"
> humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards and ignorant.
> Not always true though. HTH
>
> George

I love Jeff Foxworthy! His redneck jokes are so funny. I too, on occasion
have fallen in to his category of a redneck. That is to say, there have
been times that if I cut the grass...I'd find a car......

Anyway......I work at the grocery store where I shop, now. I started
working there in August and I'm still getting to know everyone - there are
allot of people working there! The problem is, there is a store policy that
says something like, if it's garbage, it's garbage. I work at the fast food
counter where we have 4 pots of soup out during the lunch hour. If the soup
doesn't sell, it goes in to the garbage. No if's, and's, or but's!!! This
amazes me and I don't understand the policy. Like...why not let me take it
home? or why not let the local soup kitchen/homeless shelter come and get
it? I suppose there's a reason - health inspections or regulations or
whatever...but I don't agree with it. There is an INCREDIBLE amount of
waste in the grocery business - so much food that could be salvaged, but
isn't. It's a shame. And thus, the prices go up..............

So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway, just in
case we can work something out....

Kathi

Kathi Jones wrote:
> (big snip)
>
>>> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because they
>> always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of ther necks
>> were sunburned.
>>
>> Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does "redneck"
>> humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards and ignorant.
>> Not always true though. HTH
>>
>> George
>
> I love Jeff Foxworthy! His redneck jokes are so funny. I too, on occasion
> have fallen in to his category of a redneck. That is to say, there have
> been times that if I cut the grass...I'd find a car......
>
> Anyway......I work at the grocery store where I shop, now. I started
> working there in August and I'm still getting to know everyone - there are
> allot of people working there! The problem is, there is a store policy that
> says something like, if it's garbage, it's garbage. I work at the fast food
> counter where we have 4 pots of soup out during the lunch hour. If the soup
> doesn't sell, it goes in to the garbage. No if's, and's, or but's!!! This
> amazes me and I don't understand the policy. Like...why not let me take it
> home? or why not let the local soup kitchen/homeless shelter come and get
> it? I suppose there's a reason - health inspections or regulations or
> whatever...but I don't agree with it. There is an INCREDIBLE amount of
> waste in the grocery business - so much food that could be salvaged, but
> isn't. It's a shame. And thus, the prices go up..............
>
> So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway, just in
> case we can work something out....
>
> Kathi
>
>
>
Think LAWSUITS, the American public appears to be out to sue everyone
for everything.

For many years I was an industrial safety professional, and, the last
sixteen years, a self-employed safety consultant. When I worked for
the big oil companies I had agreements with them that, if sued, they
would indemnify me, ie, defend me in all lawsuits. When I went solo in
1991 I had to carry a $5,000,000.00 personal liability policy. I was
afraid I wouldn't be able to afford it but it wound up costing only
about $3K a year because so many people had to have the coverage and
that made a big pool.

Regardless, in 31 years of doing safety I was sued 288 times and none of
them ever won. Makes you wonder doesn't it. I can understand why the
store doesn't allow food to be taken home or given away. May not agree
with it but I do understand it.

Here in our local all the restaurants and supermarkets donate leftover
food to the places that feed hundreds of people daily, Abraham's Tent,
Salvation Army, Potter House, lots of places. I found out the recipients
have to sign waivers on lawsuits for most of them and, IIRC, the state
of Louisiana limits lawsuits against such donors.

George

Kathi Jones wrote:
> So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway,
> just in case we can work something out....


A few weeks ago I had a meal in a restaurant and asked for the bone to be
wrapped, so I could take it home for the dog.

I had to sign a disclaimer that if I should become ill after eating the bone
I wouldn't sue!!!

Ophelia wrote:

> A few weeks ago I had a meal in a restaurant and asked for the bone to be
> wrapped, so I could take it home for the dog.
>
> I had to sign a disclaimer that if I should become ill after eating the bone
> I wouldn't sue!!!

I don't understand. I inferred that you were served the bone without
signing a disclaimer. So if you ate the bone in the restaurant and
became ill, you could sue them. Did they have a monitor watching you to
stop you from eating it?

Was there a disclaimer in the menu that they were not responsible for
health problems caused by the food? Did you have to rely on Gordon
Ramsay's prayer "Oh G-d please do not let me get food poisoning again".

(In his UK series "Ramsay's Kitchen Nighmares, he was served tainted
food 4 times in as many months.)

Geoff.
--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM
IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838
Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/

Ophelia wrote:
> Kathi Jones wrote:
>> So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway,
>> just in case we can work something out....
>
>
> A few weeks ago I had a meal in a restaurant and asked for the bone to be
> wrapped, so I could take it home for the dog.
>
> I had to sign a disclaimer that if I should become ill after eating the bone
> I wouldn't sue!!!
>
>
>
Well, did it make the dog sick? <VBG>

George

Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>
>> A few weeks ago I had a meal in a restaurant and asked for the bone
>> to be wrapped, so I could take it home for the dog.
>>
>> I had to sign a disclaimer that if I should become ill after eating
>> the bone I wouldn't sue!!!
>
> I don't understand. I inferred that you were served the bone without
> signing a disclaimer. So if you ate the bone in the restaurant and
> became ill, you could sue them. Did they have a monitor watching you
> to stop you from eating it?

LOL I doubt it I never had that in that restaurant (where we are regular
diners) since then!


> Was there a disclaimer in the menu that they were not responsible for
> health problems caused by the food? Did you have to rely on Gordon
> Ramsay's prayer "Oh G-d please do not let me get food poisoning
> again".
>
> (In his UK series "Ramsay's Kitchen Nighmares, he was served tainted
> food 4 times in as many months.)
>
> Geoff.

George Shirley wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>> Kathi Jones wrote:
>>> So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway,
>>> just in case we can work something out....
>>
>>
>> A few weeks ago I had a meal in a restaurant and asked for the bone
>> to be wrapped, so I could take it home for the dog.
>>
>> I had to sign a disclaimer that if I should become ill after eating
>> the bone I wouldn't sue!!!
>>
>>
>>
> Well, did it make the dog sick? <VBG>

Not yet)

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
. ..
> Kathi Jones wrote:
>
> Here in our local all the restaurants and supermarkets donate leftover
> food to the places that feed hundreds of people daily, Abraham's Tent,
> Salvation Army, Potter House, lots of places. I found out the recipients
> have to sign waivers on lawsuits for most of them and, IIRC, the state
> of Louisiana limits lawsuits against such donors.
>

Oregon does the same thing. All the grocery stores participate with
the Oregon Food Bank.

However do not fall for the idea that it's a liability thing. That's just
a typical corporate excuse dreamed up to put a happy Barney the
Dinosaur face on a rather greedy and nasty practice that the grocery
stores really don't want their customers to understand.

The real reason that the grocery stores
don't do one-off donations to shelters and the like is that they don't
want the donated food cutting into their business. This is what Oregon
found out. The grocery stores were quite happy to donate the old
food to a central organization - like the food bank - because the
food bank screens all the recipients and doesen't give them anything
until they have signed up for all the social services that the state
already pays for - such as food stamps (ie: WIC) The food
bank also makes sure that the shelters that get food from them
enforce the same requirements on their clients.

What this does is the poor people only get the free food AFTER they
have gone to the grocery stores and spent all their food stamp
allowance. It also guarentees that the recipients only get enough
food to feed themselves and their families and don't get a whole
great gob of it. This helps to prevent spoilage but more importantly
it prevents the poor people from getting enough expired food to
sell it for drug money.

If you see food wastage in your city of this magnitude and it really
bothers you, then you ought to put together a proposal to get
an area food bank setup. As soon as you explain to the grocery
stores that their giving out free food is handing your food bank a
club that it can use to get poor people into the food stamp program -
which results in more money coming into the grocery stores since
the poor people then go spend the food stamps at the grocers -
they will be quite happy to grease the skids with the local politicians
to get liability laws modified or whatever it takes.

That's the cruel reality of it. To be sure, you can make the
argument that many of the poor people aren't on the food stamp
program simply because they are ignorant about the social
services that their state has, and that doing it this way gets
the poor people the help they need to pull themselves out of
the poorhouse. That doesen't really quite hide the fact from
anyone who can put 2 and 2 together that the grocers aren't
participating for purely altruistic reasons..

Ted

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> "George Shirley" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Kathi Jones wrote:
>>
>> Here in our local all the restaurants and supermarkets donate leftover
>> food to the places that feed hundreds of people daily, Abraham's Tent,
>> Salvation Army, Potter House, lots of places. I found out the recipients
>> have to sign waivers on lawsuits for most of them and, IIRC, the state
>> of Louisiana limits lawsuits against such donors.
>>
>
> Oregon does the same thing. All the grocery stores participate with
> the Oregon Food Bank.
>
> However do not fall for the idea that it's a liability thing. That's just
> a typical corporate excuse dreamed up to put a happy Barney the
> Dinosaur face on a rather greedy and nasty practice that the grocery
> stores really don't want their customers to understand.
>
> The real reason that the grocery stores
> don't do one-off donations to shelters and the like is that they don't
> want the donated food cutting into their business. This is what Oregon
> found out. The grocery stores were quite happy to donate the old
> food to a central organization - like the food bank - because the
> food bank screens all the recipients and doesen't give them anything
> until they have signed up for all the social services that the state
> already pays for - such as food stamps (ie: WIC) The food
> bank also makes sure that the shelters that get food from them
> enforce the same requirements on their clients.
>
> What this does is the poor people only get the free food AFTER they
> have gone to the grocery stores and spent all their food stamp
> allowance. It also guarentees that the recipients only get enough
> food to feed themselves and their families and don't get a whole
> great gob of it. This helps to prevent spoilage but more importantly
> it prevents the poor people from getting enough expired food to
> sell it for drug money.
>
> If you see food wastage in your city of this magnitude and it really
> bothers you, then you ought to put together a proposal to get
> an area food bank setup. As soon as you explain to the grocery
> stores that their giving out free food is handing your food bank a
> club that it can use to get poor people into the food stamp program -
> which results in more money coming into the grocery stores since
> the poor people then go spend the food stamps at the grocers -
> they will be quite happy to grease the skids with the local politicians
> to get liability laws modified or whatever it takes.
>
> That's the cruel reality of it. To be sure, you can make the
> argument that many of the poor people aren't on the food stamp
> program simply because they are ignorant about the social
> services that their state has, and that doing it this way gets
> the poor people the help they need to pull themselves out of
> the poorhouse. That doesen't really quite hide the fact from
> anyone who can put 2 and 2 together that the grocers aren't
> participating for purely altruistic reasons..
>
> Ted
>
>
A couple of the feeding stations around here don't ask any questions, if
you come in to eat they feed you. I worked at one a few times as a
server and recognized people I knew had good jobs and money. Food
station didn't care, just said they don't discriminate.

I know some of our grocers hereabouts don't participate and, like you
said, it's a corporate policy. YMMV

George

"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> That's the cruel reality of it. To be sure, you can make the
> argument that many of the poor people aren't on the food stamp
> program simply because they are ignorant about the social
> services that their state has, and that doing it this way gets
> the poor people the help they need to pull themselves out of
> the poorhouse. That doesen't really quite hide the fact from
> anyone who can put 2 and 2 together that the grocers aren't
> participating for purely altruistic reasons..
>

Even without the food stamp program restrictions, I don't think grocers
participate for purely altrusitic reasons. IANAA but I'm pretty sure they
get a tax deduction for charitable contributions for donating food.

The choice for them would therefore be to throw it out and get nothing or to
donate it, have some administrative/bookkeeping expense, and get a nice
deduction that lowers their taxes -- and gets them some goodwill in the
community in which they do business.

Seems like a no-brsiner to me, but IANAGrocer, either.

Anny

"George Shirley" > wrote in message
. ..

> A couple of the feeding stations around here don't ask any questions, if
> you come in to eat they feed you. I worked at one a few times as a
> server and recognized people I knew had good jobs and money. Food
> station didn't care, just said they don't discriminate.
>

That's not what a Food Bank does. At least, not here. That's a soup
kitchen, and it's a whole different thing.

The Food Banks don't hand out food ready to eat. They hand out
expired food that you have to take home and prepare, ie: canned, boxed
stuff. A soup kitchen prepares the food and serves it - and as the food is
prepared,
it has to be eaten that day (or very soon afterwards, like for example
pastries, etc.) and the people leaving aren't carrying food with them (or
if they are it's like a restaurant doggy bag - one serving)

Ted

"Anny Middon" > wrote in message
. net...
> "Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > That's the cruel reality of it. To be sure, you can make the
> > argument that many of the poor people aren't on the food stamp
> > program simply because they are ignorant about the social
> > services that their state has, and that doing it this way gets
> > the poor people the help they need to pull themselves out of
> > the poorhouse. That doesen't really quite hide the fact from
> > anyone who can put 2 and 2 together that the grocers aren't
> > participating for purely altruistic reasons..
> >
>
> Even without the food stamp program restrictions, I don't think grocers
> participate for purely altrusitic reasons. IANAA but I'm pretty sure they
> get a tax deduction for charitable contributions for donating food.
>
> The choice for them would therefore be to throw it out and get nothing or
to
> donate it, have some administrative/bookkeeping expense, and get a nice
> deduction that lowers their taxes -- and gets them some goodwill in the
> community in which they do business.
>
> Seems like a no-brsiner to me, but IANAGrocer, either.
>

You have to be actually making money to get any value out of a
tax deduction. If your running at a loss, your already not paying
taxes so there's nothing to deduct from.

Ted

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:15:53 GMT, "Anny Middon"
> wrote:

>"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> That's the cruel reality of it. To be sure, you can make the
>> argument that many of the poor people aren't on the food stamp
>> program simply because they are ignorant about the social
>> services that their state has, and that doing it this way gets
>> the poor people the help they need to pull themselves out of
>> the poorhouse. That doesen't really quite hide the fact from
>> anyone who can put 2 and 2 together that the grocers aren't
>> participating for purely altruistic reasons..
>>
>
>Even without the food stamp program restrictions, I don't think grocers
>participate for purely altrusitic reasons. IANAA but I'm pretty sure they
>get a tax deduction for charitable contributions for donating food.
>
>The choice for them would therefore be to throw it out and get nothing or to
>donate it, have some administrative/bookkeeping expense, and get a nice
>deduction that lowers their taxes -- and gets them some goodwill in the
>community in which they do business.
>
>Seems like a no-brsiner to me, but IANAGrocer, either.
>
>Anny
>
When you buy inventory you automatically get the deduction for
whatever it costs. You then subtract the total cost of what you
bought from your sales. Doesn't matter whether you sell it or it
rots.
--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)

"Kathi Jones" > wrote in message
...
> (big snip)
>
>>> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because they
>> always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of ther
>> necks were sunburned.
>>
>> Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does
>> "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards
>> and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH
>>
>> George
>
> I love Jeff Foxworthy! His redneck jokes are so funny. I too, on
> occasion have fallen in to his category of a redneck. That is to say,
> there have been times that if I cut the grass...I'd find a car......
>
> Anyway......I work at the grocery store where I shop, now. I started
> working there in August and I'm still getting to know everyone - there are
> allot of people working there! The problem is, there is a store policy
> that says something like, if it's garbage, it's garbage. I work at the
> fast food counter where we have 4 pots of soup out during the lunch hour.
> If the soup doesn't sell, it goes in to the garbage. No if's, and's, or
> but's!!! This amazes me and I don't understand the policy. Like...why
> not let me take it home? or why not let the local soup kitchen/homeless
> shelter come and get it? I suppose there's a reason - health inspections
> or regulations or whatever...but I don't agree with it. There is an
> INCREDIBLE amount of waste in the grocery business - so much food that
> could be salvaged, but isn't. It's a shame. And thus, the prices go
> up..............
>
> So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway, just
> in case we can work something out....
>
> Kathi
>
>
>

Kathi,
When I worked at the grocery, I started in the deli, which included premade
'hot' foods. The state regulated what could and could not be sold and we
had to be ServSafe (cleanliness, sanitation training, etc) trained. The
rationale behind the soup is that it cannot be served under 160 F degrees,
if while in the pot it drops below, it has to be tossed. If a pot of soup
sits out more than four hours on the warmer, again, it has to be tossed.
Supposedly botulism and other baddies would grow if kept out longer. Same
with the prepped chicken, fish patties, fries, weinies (all deep fried) and
pizza, four hours and it hits the can. The chicken could be pulled and
chilled and put out a refridgerated at the same price, though, I never could
figure that one out.....if you couldn't eat it four and half hours old hot,
how come you could eat it up to a day later chilled. If it went bad in
those four hours it was hot, it would still be bad when the same chicken was
sold chilled. It's a racket, but one that would get them sued if they did
any different.
-ginny

Virginia Tadrzynski wrote:
> "Kathi Jones" > wrote in message
> ...
>> (big snip)
>>
>>>> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because they
>>> always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of ther
>>> necks were sunburned.
>>>
>>> Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does
>>> "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards
>>> and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH
>>>
>>> George
>> I love Jeff Foxworthy! His redneck jokes are so funny. I too, on
>> occasion have fallen in to his category of a redneck. That is to say,
>> there have been times that if I cut the grass...I'd find a car......
>>
>> Anyway......I work at the grocery store where I shop, now. I started
>> working there in August and I'm still getting to know everyone - there are
>> allot of people working there! The problem is, there is a store policy
>> that says something like, if it's garbage, it's garbage. I work at the
>> fast food counter where we have 4 pots of soup out during the lunch hour.
>> If the soup doesn't sell, it goes in to the garbage. No if's, and's, or
>> but's!!! This amazes me and I don't understand the policy. Like...why
>> not let me take it home? or why not let the local soup kitchen/homeless
>> shelter come and get it? I suppose there's a reason - health inspections
>> or regulations or whatever...but I don't agree with it. There is an
>> INCREDIBLE amount of waste in the grocery business - so much food that
>> could be salvaged, but isn't. It's a shame. And thus, the prices go
>> up..............
>>
>> So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway, just
>> in case we can work something out....
>>
>> Kathi
>>
>>
>>
>
> Kathi,
> When I worked at the grocery, I started in the deli, which included premade
> 'hot' foods. The state regulated what could and could not be sold and we
> had to be ServSafe (cleanliness, sanitation training, etc) trained. The
> rationale behind the soup is that it cannot be served under 160 F degrees,
> if while in the pot it drops below, it has to be tossed. If a pot of soup
> sits out more than four hours on the warmer, again, it has to be tossed.
> Supposedly botulism and other baddies would grow if kept out longer. Same
> with the prepped chicken, fish patties, fries, weinies (all deep fried) and
> pizza, four hours and it hits the can. The chicken could be pulled and
> chilled and put out a refridgerated at the same price, though, I never could
> figure that one out.....if you couldn't eat it four and half hours old hot,
> how come you could eat it up to a day later chilled. If it went bad in
> those four hours it was hot, it would still be bad when the same chicken was
> sold chilled. It's a racket, but one that would get them sued if they did
> any different.
> -ginny
>
>
And, IIRC, the rules change from state to state.

George

"Virginia Tadrzynski" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Kathi Jones" > wrote in message
> ...
>> (big snip)
>>
>>>> I am not sure what a redneck is.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Originally referred to backwood farmers whose necks were red because
>>> they always had their heads down while hoeing crops and the backs of
>>> ther necks were sunburned.
>>>
>>> Have you ever seen the American comedian Jeff Foxworthy, he does
>>> "redneck" humor. Nowadays redneck infers that that person is backwards
>>> and ignorant. Not always true though. HTH
>>>
>>> George
>>
>> I love Jeff Foxworthy! His redneck jokes are so funny. I too, on
>> occasion have fallen in to his category of a redneck. That is to say,
>> there have been times that if I cut the grass...I'd find a car......
>>
>> Anyway......I work at the grocery store where I shop, now. I started
>> working there in August and I'm still getting to know everyone - there
>> are allot of people working there! The problem is, there is a store
>> policy that says something like, if it's garbage, it's garbage. I work
>> at the fast food counter where we have 4 pots of soup out during the
>> lunch hour. If the soup doesn't sell, it goes in to the garbage. No
>> if's, and's, or but's!!! This amazes me and I don't understand the
>> policy. Like...why not let me take it home? or why not let the local
>> soup kitchen/homeless shelter come and get it? I suppose there's a
>> reason - health inspections or regulations or whatever...but I don't
>> agree with it. There is an INCREDIBLE amount of waste in the grocery
>> business - so much food that could be salvaged, but isn't. It's a shame.
>> And thus, the prices go up..............
>>
>> So I'm still trying to get to know the meat and produce guys anyway, just
>> in case we can work something out....
>>
>> Kathi
>>
>>
>>
>
> Kathi,
> When I worked at the grocery, I started in the deli, which included
> premade 'hot' foods. The state regulated what could and could not be sold
> and we had to be ServSafe (cleanliness, sanitation training, etc) trained.
> The rationale behind the soup is that it cannot be served under 160 F
> degrees, if while in the pot it drops below, it has to be tossed. If a
> pot of soup sits out more than four hours on the warmer, again, it has to
> be tossed. Supposedly botulism and other baddies would grow if kept out
> longer. Same with the prepped chicken, fish patties, fries, weinies (all
> deep fried) and pizza, four hours and it hits the can. The chicken could
> be pulled and chilled and put out a refridgerated at the same price,
> though, I never could figure that one out.....if you couldn't eat it four
> and half hours old hot, how come you could eat it up to a day later
> chilled. If it went bad in those four hours it was hot, it would still be
> bad when the same chicken was sold chilled. It's a racket, but one that
> would get them sued if they did any different.
> -ginny
>
>

Hi Ginny,
I'm starting to understand all the reasons why stuff has to be tossed and
can't be taken home 'for free' by staff. It's still really unfortunate -
allot of the food that gets tossed, is still good.
Kathi

Hi! My name is Cathy and I lurk a lot...

I noticed you all were discussing Jeff Foxworthy. He wrote a
particularly sensitive and accurate description of a redneck. "Redneck"
per Foxworthy, "means a glorious absence of sophistication".

I am from South Texas and I am a full-fledged redneck. It's true we do
take a lot of grief from "ignernt" folks who think we are all a bunch of
podunks... Rural Southerners definitely have a distinct way of
thinking, and for the most part, we don't subscribe to the politically
correct ways of society. I mean, we don't set out to insult anyone, but
we can be painfully blunt and honest. But, we always heard that's a
good thing.

We have a "Say what you mean and mean what you say" attitude. It's a
plainspokenness that gains us the dullerd reputation, I suspect.

While some of us have a few teeth missing and date our cousins, others
among us hold doctorates.... If you are in a confrontation where you
wished like heck you had someone to watch your back, you'd better hope
it's a redneck.

We are not a stupid bunch, although some of the more uneducated give us
a bad name... We are a pretty great bunch of citizens. In a disaster,
we are the first on the scene to help, if threatened, we are among the
first there to defend. We think we have a decent handle on what's right
& wrong and teach our kids accordingly. We want them to grow up to be
good little rednecks, too!

Anyway, I thought I would pipe in and put in my two cents. Nice group
you have here!

Cathy from Texas




http://community.webtv.net/CATHYM55/ComeandvisitCathys

Cathy N wrote:
> Hi! My name is Cathy and I lurk a lot...
>
> I noticed you all were discussing Jeff Foxworthy. He wrote a
> particularly sensitive and accurate description of a redneck. "Redneck"
> per Foxworthy, "means a glorious absence of sophistication".
>
> I am from South Texas and I am a full-fledged redneck. It's true we do
> take a lot of grief from "ignernt" folks who think we are all a bunch of
> podunks... Rural Southerners definitely have a distinct way of
> thinking, and for the most part, we don't subscribe to the politically
> correct ways of society. I mean, we don't set out to insult anyone, but
> we can be painfully blunt and honest. But, we always heard that's a
> good thing.
>
> We have a "Say what you mean and mean what you say" attitude. It's a
> plainspokenness that gains us the dullerd reputation, I suspect.
>
> While some of us have a few teeth missing and date our cousins, others
> among us hold doctorates.... If you are in a confrontation where you
> wished like heck you had someone to watch your back, you'd better hope
> it's a redneck.
>
> We are not a stupid bunch, although some of the more uneducated give us
> a bad name... We are a pretty great bunch of citizens. In a disaster,
> we are the first on the scene to help, if threatened, we are among the
> first there to defend. We think we have a decent handle on what's right
> & wrong and teach our kids accordingly. We want them to grow up to be
> good little rednecks, too!
>
> Anyway, I thought I would pipe in and put in my two cents. Nice group
> you have here!
>
> Cathy from Texas
>
>
>
>
> http://community.webtv.net/CATHYM55/ComeandvisitCathys
>
Welcome Cathy, don't lurk, preserve something. I'm a Native Texan who
currently lives in darkest Loosyanna. Lived all over Texas for most of
my life, at least in the parts where there's oll, that's oil to the
Yankees. Lived in Corpus Christi for awhile and hunted all over South Texas.

What breed of goat is that you have? There's a whole herd of them with
the brown heads and white bodies about three miles from our house, good
looking critters. We used to raise Nubian goats eons ago, good milkers
and threw tasty kids too.

Do you raise any of your own food and put it by for hard times? Living
in town for the past twenty years we grow about 80% of our own food on a
city lot and that includes nine fruit trees.

I know what you mean about educated rednecks, I are one too. Ophelia had
asked the question and she's a Brit, one of those from Yorkshire, the
ones the other Brits joke about like the city folk joke about us rednecks.

George

Cathy N wrote:
> Hi! My name is Cathy and I lurk a lot...
>
> I noticed you all were discussing Jeff Foxworthy. He wrote a
> particularly sensitive and accurate description of a redneck.
> "Redneck" per Foxworthy, "means a glorious absence of sophistication".
>
> I am from South Texas and I am a full-fledged redneck. It's true we
> do take a lot of grief from "ignernt" folks who think we are all a
> bunch of podunks... Rural Southerners definitely have a distinct way
> of thinking, and for the most part, we don't subscribe to the
> politically correct ways of society. I mean, we don't set out to
> insult anyone, but we can be painfully blunt and honest. But, we
> always heard that's a good thing.
>
> We have a "Say what you mean and mean what you say" attitude. It's a
> plainspokenness that gains us the dullerd reputation, I suspect.
>
> While some of us have a few teeth missing and date our cousins, others
> among us hold doctorates.... If you are in a confrontation where you
> wished like heck you had someone to watch your back, you'd better hope
> it's a redneck.
>
> We are not a stupid bunch, although some of the more uneducated give
> us a bad name... We are a pretty great bunch of citizens. In a
> disaster, we are the first on the scene to help, if threatened, we
> are among the first there to defend. We think we have a decent
> handle on what's right & wrong and teach our kids accordingly. We
> want them to grow up to be good little rednecks, too!
>
> Anyway, I thought I would pipe in and put in my two cents. Nice group
> you have here!
>
> Cathy from Texas

What a lovely post Thank you Cathy

btw Us Yorkshire folks have the reputation of calling a 'spade' a 'bloody
shovel'

George Shirley wrote:
> Cathy N wrote:
>> Hi! My name is Cathy and I lurk a lot...
>>
>> I noticed you all were discussing Jeff Foxworthy. He wrote a
>> particularly sensitive and accurate description of a redneck. "Redneck"
>> per Foxworthy, "means a glorious absence of
>> sophistication". I am from South Texas and I am a full-fledged redneck.
>> It's true we
>> do take a lot of grief from "ignernt" folks who think we are all a
>> bunch of podunks... Rural Southerners definitely have a distinct
>> way of thinking, and for the most part, we don't subscribe to the
>> politically correct ways of society. I mean, we don't set out to
>> insult anyone, but we can be painfully blunt and honest. But, we
>> always heard that's a good thing.
>>
>> We have a "Say what you mean and mean what you say" attitude. It's
>> a plainspokenness that gains us the dullerd reputation, I suspect.
>>
>> While some of us have a few teeth missing and date our cousins,
>> others among us hold doctorates.... If you are in a confrontation
>> where you wished like heck you had someone to watch your back, you'd
>> better hope it's a redneck.
>>
>> We are not a stupid bunch, although some of the more uneducated give
>> us a bad name... We are a pretty great bunch of citizens. In a
>> disaster, we are the first on the scene to help, if threatened, we
>> are among the first there to defend. We think we have a decent
>> handle on what's right & wrong and teach our kids accordingly. We
>> want them to grow up to be good little rednecks, too!
>>
>> Anyway, I thought I would pipe in and put in my two cents. Nice
>> group you have here!
>>
>> Cathy from Texas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://community.webtv.net/CATHYM55/ComeandvisitCathys
>>
> Welcome Cathy, don't lurk, preserve something. I'm a Native Texan who
> currently lives in darkest Loosyanna. Lived all over Texas for most of
> my life, at least in the parts where there's oll, that's oil to the
> Yankees. Lived in Corpus Christi for awhile and hunted all over South
> Texas.
> What breed of goat is that you have? There's a whole herd of them with
> the brown heads and white bodies about three miles from our house,
> good looking critters. We used to raise Nubian goats eons ago, good
> milkers and threw tasty kids too.
>
> Do you raise any of your own food and put it by for hard times? Living
> in town for the past twenty years we grow about 80% of our own food
> on a city lot and that includes nine fruit trees.
>
> I know what you mean about educated rednecks, I are one too. Ophelia
> had asked the question and she's a Brit, one of those from Yorkshire,
> the ones the other Brits joke about like the city folk joke about us
> rednecks.

LOL you got that one right George))

Well, thanks for the warm welcome!

About my goats, Roberta and Josie are a cross of Spanish goat and Boer.
Roberta has a wide horn spread and looks more like the Spanish
ancestors. Josie, on the other hand, looks almost pure Boer. They are
sisters from the same litter. They were a set of triplets. I didn't
take all three...

To Ophelia, I have a question... I have a great friend from Yorkshire.
He lived on a farm near Norton/Malton area. Ian Denney is his name and
his father's name is Norman Denney. I don't suppose you would know
them... Maybe?

Ian is living in Italy now, loving his new home.

Anyway, again, thanks for the welcome. I'll drop in from time to time!

Greeting from not so sunny Rio Grande Valley of Texas!!

Cathy Nunn




http://community.webtv.net/CATHYM55/ComeandvisitCathys

"The Cook" > wrote in message
...
>>
> When you buy inventory you automatically get the deduction for
> whatever it costs. You then subtract the total cost of what you
> bought from your sales. Doesn't matter whether you sell it or it
> rots.
> --

Susan -- are you an accountant? I ask because my very brief Google on the
topic indicates that grocers can indeed take charitable deductions for food
donations, although this might be restricted to corporations.

Here's what one food bank has to say about it:

"Donors may be in a position to benefit from certain federal and state tax
deductions allowed for contributions of inventory to qualified charitable
recipients such as Tri-State Food Bank. If the fair market value of donated
goods exceeds their cost basis, the deduction may include a portion of such
excess. At a minimum, donors are assured of a deduction for the full cost
basis of contributed inventory and any costs associated with the donation.
The above information should serve only as a guideline concerning charitable
deductions for product donations. Companies are urged to consult corporate
tax specialists concerning specific product donations, allowable deductions,
and changes to the Tax Code."

As I said, I'm not an accountant, so maybe I'm not understanding this.

Anny

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:41:58 -0600, "Anny Middon"
> wrote:

>"The Cook" > wrote in message
.. .
>>>
>> When you buy inventory you automatically get the deduction for
>> whatever it costs. You then subtract the total cost of what you
>> bought from your sales. Doesn't matter whether you sell it or it
>> rots.
>> --
>
>Susan -- are you an accountant? I ask because my very brief Google on the
>topic indicates that grocers can indeed take charitable deductions for food
>donations, although this might be restricted to corporations.
>
>Here's what one food bank has to say about it:
>
>"Donors may be in a position to benefit from certain federal and state tax
>deductions allowed for contributions of inventory to qualified charitable
>recipients such as Tri-State Food Bank. If the fair market value of donated
>goods exceeds their cost basis, the deduction may include a portion of such
>excess. At a minimum, donors are assured of a deduction for the full cost
>basis of contributed inventory and any costs associated with the donation.
>The above information should serve only as a guideline concerning charitable
>deductions for product donations. Companies are urged to consult corporate
>tax specialists concerning specific product donations, allowable deductions,
>and changes to the Tax Code."
>
>As I said, I'm not an accountant, so maybe I'm not understanding this.
>
>Anny
>

I am not an accountant, but I did major in Business Administration at
the University of North Carolina and took several accounting courses.
I also did all of the bookkeeping and tax filing for my small
business.

I think that it does not make any difference if they give 5 pounds of
cabbage to a food bank or if is spoils and goes into the dumpster. In
either case the cabbage is gone and the store did not receive any
money for it. The store's profit is reduced by the cost of the
cabbage either way.

--
Susan N.

"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)