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I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not
specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high rate of seal failure and breakage. I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal properly or the jars might break. I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. -- -Marilyn |
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Marilyn wrote:
> I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not > specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of > spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that > once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but > I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same > and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that > they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high > rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars > for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal > properly or the jars might break. > > I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing > him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want > jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed > explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I > don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time > and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. > My brother and my parents use "Atlas" spaghetti sauce jars all the time for canning; they are just the right size (quarts are too big, pints are too small.) I have one or two around here somewhere from green beans or tomatoes that they gave me, and I believe they are just as thick as regular Ball or Kerr canning jars. They are certainly thicker than the glass in mayonnaise jars (and I used to can with those without ever breaking one or losing a seal.) They are a nonstandard size, so you'd use the processing timetables for the next larger size jar (quarts) and risk overcooking the food a little. Bob |
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Marilyn wrote:
> I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not > specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of > spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that > once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but > I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same > and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that > they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high > rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars > for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal > properly or the jars might break. > > I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing > him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want > jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed > explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I > don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time > and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. > I have used the Classico jars with good success in both BWB and pressure canners. As near as I can determine they are genuine canning jars and even take the two piece lid and ring perfectly. Can't say that about the rest of the sauce jars, they seem much thinner and don't have the same lip so I don't use them. The Classico jars are 26 ounce versus 32 ounce though. |
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"Marilyn" > wrote: > and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that > they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high > rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? I wouldn't hesitate to use them for BWB processing; don't know what to say about pressure canning. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller - Yes, I Can! blog - check it out. And check this, too: <http://www.kare11.com/news/ newsatfour/newsatfour_article.aspx?storyid=823232&catid=323> |
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![]() "Marilyn" > wrote in message ... > I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not > specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of > spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know > that > once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, > but > I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the > same > and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that > they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a > high > rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial > jars > for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal > properly or the jars might break. > > I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing > him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want > jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed > explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. > I > don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time > and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. I use them. I also use the jars that you find Rene's salad dressings in. 355 ml - smooth sides. Pretty for pickled asparagus, green beans, other pickles, carrots, salsa - I have used them for all of these recipes. BWB only, no idea how they would be under pressure. The plastic lids that they come with fit perfectly oin a standard canning jar and visa versa. Never had a problem with sealing. FWIW Kathi > > -- > -Marilyn > > |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:23:34 -0000, "Marilyn"
> wrote: >I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not >specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of >spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that >once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but >I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same >and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that >they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high >rate of seal failure and breakage. > >I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > >National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars >for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal >properly or the jars might break. > >I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing >him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want >jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed >explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I >don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time >and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. I'm a little late getting to the newsgroups today but, like others have said, we use quite a few of the Classico sauce jars for canning tomatoes in a BWB. Have yet to have a problem. We bought a bunch of the Classico sauces at a local liquidation outlet at about $0.50 a jar. But, to tell the truth, I'd much prefer to get the empty jars from someone's co-worker rather than use that sauce on my food just to get jars. Ross. |
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> wrote in message
... > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:23:34 -0000, "Marilyn" > > wrote: > >>I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not >>specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of >>spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know >>that >>once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, >>but >>I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the >>same >>and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that >>they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a >>high >>rate of seal failure and breakage. >> >>I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? >> >>National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial >>jars >>for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal >>properly or the jars might break. >> >>I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing >>him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want >>jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed >>explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. >>I >>don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time >>and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. > > I'm a little late getting to the newsgroups today but, like others > have said, we use quite a few of the Classico sauce jars for canning > tomatoes in a BWB. Have yet to have a problem. > We bought a bunch of the Classico sauces at a local liquidation outlet > at about $0.50 a jar. But, to tell the truth, I'd much prefer to get > the empty jars from someone's co-worker rather than use that sauce on > my food just to get jars. > > Ross. Hmm. So I'm debating here about taking them now. I really don't need the extra jars and I don't like that they're not a quart size. I have used them on occasion myself in the past. And no, I'd never buy that brand of spaghetti sauce. I buy the cheapest, which is usually Del Monte, in a can, not a jar and then only use it as a base for my own ingredients. I'll think about it this weekend and maybe I will take the jars. -- -Marilyn |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:23:34 +0000, Marilyn wrote:
> Some people say > they use them, others say that they are not made to be reused over and > over again and that they have a high rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? I'd use them for PC/BWB but I dislike the size and shape of the jars. I have one hanging around that I haven't recycled yet. I do keep the screw- on lids to use to reclose mason jars in the fridge, etc. -- L.V.X., brother mouse |
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"frater mus" > wrote in message
... > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:23:34 +0000, Marilyn wrote: > >> Some people say >> they use them, others say that they are not made to be reused over and >> over again and that they have a high rate of seal failure and breakage. >> >> I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > I'd use them for PC/BWB but I dislike the size and shape of the jars. I > have one hanging around that I haven't recycled yet. I do keep the screw- > on lids to use to reclose mason jars in the fridge, etc. > > > > -- > L.V.X., brother mouse Yes, the squareness is a bit of an annoyance isn't it? Probably not so much in a BWB but in a pressure canner where they're close together, I could see maybe having a problem. Of course, the squareness is an asset when storing them on the shelf because there's less wasted space. -- -Marilyn |
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I've only used the bigger ones for storage & iced coffee. (shaken, not
stirred) : - ) Now, Classico does sell a pesto sauce in a smaller jar--we use it as a base with white sauce on pizza because I can't eat tomatoes. I have re-used those little jars for jams, jellies & butters in a BWB--no problems with breakage or sealing. I haven't had a issue with the shape of the jar because I usually do small batches and they fit okay in my granite BWB canner. HTH |
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Mimi wrote:
> I've only used the bigger ones for storage & iced coffee. (shaken, not > stirred) > > : - ) > > Now, Classico does sell a pesto sauce in a smaller jar--we use it as a > base with white sauce on pizza because I can't eat tomatoes. I have > re-used those little jars for jams, jellies & butters in a BWB--no > problems with breakage or sealing. I haven't had a issue with the > shape of the jar because I usually do small batches and they fit okay > in my granite BWB canner. > > HTH I was in the local Kroger yesterday and walked by the sauce display, the Classico jars for spaghetti sauce have been downsized, they're now 24 ounce versus the former 26 ounce. Still marked Atlas Mason though. I have no fear of putting them in the pressure canner, did a bunch of green beans in them as that size jar makes a perfect serving for two with a little leftover to add to the potential soup container in the freezer. Got up to 53F this morning, may be time for either chili or soup, I'm voting for chili. |
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<snip> Got up to 53F this morning, may be time for either chili or
soup, I'm voting for chili. <snip> Chicken soup or Chicken Gumbo weather for me... : - ) |
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On Sunday, October 18, 2009 at 12:05:20 AM UTC-5, Mimi wrote:
> I've only used the bigger ones for storage & iced coffee. (shaken, not > stirred) > > : - ) > > Now, Classico does sell a pesto sauce in a smaller jar--we use it as a > base with white sauce on pizza because I can't eat tomatoes. I have > re-used those little jars for jams, jellies & butters in a BWB--no > problems with breakage or sealing. I haven't had a issue with the > shape of the jar because I usually do small batches and they fit okay > in my granite BWB canner. > > HTH Hi Mimi, I have started using the classico pizza jars, sounds like the pesto sauce jars you use. My question is: what size canning lids & rings do you use for the small jars? I tried the regular sized mason jar lids and they a bit too big for them. Thanks Robert |
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Mimi
I've only used the bigger ones for storage & iced coffee. (shaken, not stirred) : - ) Now, Classico does sell a pesto sauce in a smaller jar--we use it as a base with white sauce on pizza because I can't eat tomatoes. I have re-used those little jars for jams, jellies & butters in a BWB--no problems with breakage or sealing. I haven't had a issue with the shape of the jar because I usually do small batches and they fit okay in my granite BWB canner. *****what size lid do you use with those jars? Or are you reusing the lids that came with the jar? |
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![]() Marilyn;312771 Wrote: > "frater mus" > wrote in message > ... > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:23:34 +0000, Marilyn wrote: > > > >> Some people say > >> they use them, others say that they are not made to be reused over > and > >> over again and that they have a high rate of seal failure and > breakage. > >> > >> I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > > > I'd use them for PC/BWB but I dislike the size and shape of the jars. > I > > have one hanging around that I haven't recycled yet. I do keep the > screw- > > on lids to use to reclose mason jars in the fridge, etc. > > > > > > > > -- > > L.V.X., brother mouse > > > Yes, the squareness is a bit of an annoyance isn't it? Probably not so > much > in a BWB but in a pressure canner where they're close together, I could > see > maybe having a problem. Of course, the squareness is an asset when > storing > them on the shelf because there's less wasted space. > > -- > -Marilyn I researched them and they appear save to use for pc canning I never use my expensive mason jars for bwc when otc jars work fine little hint otc jars with nub lids and button tops are reuseable they are easier to use and fail alot less often the other day I made kiwi strawberry jam all my reused 2 piece lids failed luckily I had enough of the ten oz jars and nub lids on hand to correct this -- amsweitzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ amsweitzer's Profile: http://www.cookingjunkies.com/member.php?userid=26466 View this thread: http://www.cookingjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=28576 |
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On Oct 15, 2:23*pm, "Marilyn" >
wrote: > I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not > specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of > spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. *Now, I know that > once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but > I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same > and that they are thinner. *Some people say they use them, others say that > they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high > rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars > for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal > properly or the jars might break. > > I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing > him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want > jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed > explanation. *I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. *I > don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time > and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good.. > > -- > -Marilyn I have always used the Classico jars and love the 24 ounce size. It is great for soups and fruits. Ball/Kerr used to make 24 ounce canning jars but no more. With respect to BWB or PC, I use them for both without any distinction. I have NEVER had one of them break. For the folks who say they are lighter glass, put on on a cooking or postal scale with a Kerr or a Ball. I have done so and the Classico was the heavier of the 3. That little 10 ounce pesto bottle from Classico is a jewel. Wish I could get my neighbors to save them for me. Jim in So. Calif. |
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![]() It's been awhile since anyone posted on this subject, but last night I was canning some tomatoes, and when it was time to take the jars out of the water bath, I noticed a piece of tomato floating on the top of the water. I thought nothing of it, just that I had somehow dropped a piece in there, but as I was removing the first jar, the top 2/3 of one of the jars broke away from the bottom. What a mess it made in the water! Today I noticed that the jar was an Atlas Mason jar, and since all our other jars are Ball jars, I googled Altas Mason Jars and found this site. Though I haven't had a chance to look around, I thought I'd update the thread, and provide a "living example" of why maybe it's not such a good idea to use these jars. I'm guessing it somehow made it's way from a jar of spaghetti to our jar storage, bypassing what should have been the recycling bin!! -- Tomct ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tomct's Profile: http://www.cookingjunkies.com/member.php?userid=26314 View this thread: http://www.cookingjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=28576 |
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:27:40 -0500, Tomct
> wrote: > >It's been awhile since anyone posted on this subject, but last night I >was canning some tomatoes, and when it was time to take the jars out of >the water bath, I noticed a piece of tomato floating on the top of the >water. I thought nothing of it, just that I had somehow dropped a piece >in there, but as I was removing the first jar, the top 2/3 of one of the >jars broke away from the bottom. What a mess it made in the water! >Today I noticed that the jar was an Atlas Mason jar, and since all our >other jars are Ball jars, I googled Altas Mason Jars and found this >site. > >Though I haven't had a chance to look around, I thought I'd update the >thread, and provide a "living example" of why maybe it's not such a good >idea to use these jars. I'm guessing it somehow made it's way from a >jar of spaghetti to our jar storage, bypassing what should have been the >recycling bin!! I see I was one of the guest responders in your linked thread on this subject, back on Oct. 16, 2009 (different ISP at that time). I would venture an educated guess that since that time we have BWB'd well over 200 jars of tomatoes in Atlas (Classico) jars. As a matter of fact, I just took a break from doing tomatoes this morning to read the NG while one load is in the canner. This is pretty well the end the year's tomato crop but, by the time we finish later today this season's total alone will be over 50 of the Atlas jars plus more than 20 quart (or liter) jars. Never had a jar break and seal failures would be less than 1%. For the two of us, Atlas jars are the perfect size. Ross. Southern Ontario, Canada |
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On 9/21/2012 9:27 AM, Tomct wrote:
> It's been awhile since anyone posted on this subject, but last night I > was canning some tomatoes, and when it was time to take the jars out of > the water bath, I noticed a piece of tomato floating on the top of the > water. I thought nothing of it, just that I had somehow dropped a piece > in there, but as I was removing the first jar, the top 2/3 of one of the > jars broke away from the bottom. What a mess it made in the water! > Today I noticed that the jar was an Atlas Mason jar, and since all our > other jars are Ball jars, I googled Altas Mason Jars and found this > site. > > Though I haven't had a chance to look around, I thought I'd update the > thread, and provide a "living example" of why maybe it's not such a good > idea to use these jars. I'm guessing it somehow made it's way from a > jar of spaghetti to our jar storage, bypassing what should have been the > recycling bin!! > > I've used the Atlas Mason 26 ounce jars for several years with good results. They were the jars used to hold Classico sauce and had a lip that took regular canning lids. I have notice that the new Classico sauce jars do NOT have the same lip, they have a different lid. I suspect that, from your experience they are no longer made like regular canning jars if you have them breaking. Certainly they would not hold jar contents if they lip has different threads than a regular canning jar. For that reason my friends no longer save me the Classico sauce jars. I never bought any canned sauce because I like my homemade sauce much better. I occasionally run up on some of the old Classico jars at garage sales, etc. |
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![]() I reuse store jars and lug lids all the time I saw the classico at wally world today for the pesto and bought it cause its a square Mason for those concerned about reusing lug lids this is a 53mm lid sold here 'Pickling and Canning Jars' (http://www.sks-bottle.com/CanningJars.html) the price for the lids is 53 mm P 144/bag $23.04 check out the sight they have cool canning jars if you are into gifting -- amsweitzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ amsweitzer's Profile: http://www.cookingjunkies.com/member.php?userid=26466 View this thread: http://www.cookingjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=28576 |
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I just checked the Claasico website. The jars are NOT recommended for canning. I actually prefer using the 12 oz size as drinking glasses.
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On 4/16/2014 3:42 PM, Drew Lawson wrote:
> In article > > George Shirley > writes: >> On 4/15/2014 9:44 PM, wrote: >>> I just checked the Claasico website. The jars are NOT recommended for canning. I actually prefer using >> the 12 oz size as drinking glasses. ![]() >>> >> You're right, the newer Classico Atlas Mason jars have thinner glass >> than canning jars and the threads and top of the jar are no longer to >> true Mason jar standards. I've never eaten Classico but a couple of >> friends used to give me the ones they received and they made a decent >> canning jar back then. After I noticed the change I quit getting them >> and they went to recycling. Still have a couple of dozen of the older >> jars, the 26 ounce with the true canning jar thickness and threads plus >> the flat top needed. > > The sad thing is that I used to eat a lot of that sause, probably > 2-3 jars a month. But back then I wasn't even gardening much, and > they all went to the recycling. Once the gardening ramped up, I > started saving the jars. I got up to two jars before the stuff on > the store shelves transitioned to the new jars. > > Oh well. > > Win a few, lose a few Drew. Maybe the sauce company will make enough money to start using REAL Mason jars again. Here's a hint: I go to a lot of church sales, ie. church people get together, empty their closets, pantries, and garages, stuff gets sold at the church, money goes to church. I once bought a little over 200 canning jars, running from quarter pints to quarts for ten cents each and the church ladies counted them. I think someone's grannie died and left those jars behind because some of them were really old jars. Plus there were at least three boxes of lids and rings in the batch that they threw in. At another sale I found a brand new pressure canner still in the box for ten bucks, it went to a friend's daughter who was wanting to learn to can her own food. Keep looking. George, smelling all the herbs that are in the dehydrator today |
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On 11/19/2014 8:03 PM, wrote:
> http://www.classico.com/FAQ.aspx > > Classico said no. Notice it says "our current jars". The current jars don't take canning lids. I have gotten rid of all my old mayonnaise and Miracle Whip jars (at least I don't *think* I have any left.) I will keep using my Atlas jars until they break or I lose them; they look and feel to me every bit as thick as Ball and Kerr jars. You'll have to decide for yourself. Bob |
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On 11/19/2014 8:31 PM, zxcvbob wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 8:03 PM, wrote: >> http://www.classico.com/FAQ.aspx >> >> Classico said no. > > > Notice it says "our current jars". The current jars don't take canning > lids. > > I have gotten rid of all my old mayonnaise and Miracle Whip jars (at > least I don't *think* I have any left.) I will keep using my Atlas jars > until they break or I lose them; they look and feel to me every bit as > thick as Ball and Kerr jars. You'll have to decide for yourself. > > Bob Me too, Bob. Friends of ours must have eaten Classico sauce for every meal, they gave us about 30 of those 26 oz jars and they're still with us. Most of them have had pear mincemeat in them but there's only two full jars left so the jars will be used for something else. How's the lovely winter wonderland of Minnehaha coming along? We had a light frost the other day, nipped the tops of the still producing summer eggplant and wilted a couple of pepper plants, otherwise it is still pretty close to summer here. Weather folk keep predicting freeze then we get mid-fifties again. Chard planted the fall of 2013 is still producing, I believe we got our money back several times on the purchase of those chard plants. Pickled some radishes the other day, just opened the jar yesterday and tried them, they were nasty! Probably go into the composter today. Yuck! George |
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On 11/21/2014 6:59 AM, George Shirley wrote:
> > Pickled some radishes the other day, just opened the jar yesterday and > tried them, they were nasty! Probably go into the composter today. Yuck! > > George Dear George: I don't think I have ever had radishes in any form that WEREN'T nasty. I guess that's my version of Barb's beets. In the past few years, chard (which my husband likes) and even spinach (which I used to love) taste very metallic to me, like chewing on tinfoil. (Are you allowed to call it tinfoil if you are old enough to remember when it wasn't called aluminum or Reynolds Wrap?) Haha. gloria p |
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Every now & then I'll say tin foil. The young people look at me like i'm
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On Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 6:23:34 PM UTC-4, Marilyn wrote:
> I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not > specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of > spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that > once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but > I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same > and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that > they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high > rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars > for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal > properly or the jars might break. > > I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing > him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want > jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed > explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I > don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time > and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. > > -- > -Marilyn When I first saw them I believe I contacted the companmy who makes them and they say they are genuine. "if it says Atlas it is a genuine Atlas jar" FWIW, Kitty |
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On Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 6:23:34 PM UTC-4, Marilyn wrote:
> I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not > specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of > spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that > once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but > I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same > and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that > they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high > rate of seal failure and breakage. > > I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > > National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars > for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal > properly or the jars might break. > > I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing > him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want > jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed > explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I > don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time > and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. > > -- > -Marilyn Does anyone know where to buy the Atlas jars without buying classico sauce? |
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On 2015-08-26 23:36:05 +0000, George Shirley said:
> On 8/26/2015 5:57 PM, wrote: >> On Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 6:23:34 PM UTC-4, Marilyn wrote: >>> I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not >>> specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of >>> spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that >>> once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but >>> I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same >>> and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that >>> they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high >>> rate of seal failure and breakage. >>> >>> I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? >>> >>> National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars >>> for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal >>> properly or the jars might break. >>> >>> I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing >>> him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want >>> jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed >>> explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I >>> don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time >>> and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. >>> >>> -- >>> -Marilyn >> >> Does anyone know where to buy the Atlas jars without buying classico sauce? >> > A few years ago Classico went to the common lid that other > manufacturers use. Mason jar rings and lids no longer seal on them. > There are places on line to buy the same lid that the big manufacturers > use. > > I've only ever seen the Atlas jars with Classico sauce in them. Atlas > was a brand name canning jar many years ago as we were still using and > buying them in the forties and fifties. That's if an old memory is > correct. A little search on line shows that the OLD Atlas jars have > some value but not as modern canning jars. > > Probably best to stick with Ball and Kerr mason jars for your canning > nowadays. We have modern canning jars that are at least fifty years old > and they're still holding goodies if handled properly. I can only > remember having two canning jars break while I was filling them so they > do last a long time. > > George Have you seen/tried one lately, Jorge? Seems I read that Classico caved to public wishes and went back to a jar that takes a standard canning jar lid. -- -- Barb www.barbschaller.com, last update April 2013 |
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On Wednesday, 26 August 2015 21:23:05 UTC-4, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
> On 2015-08-26 23:36:05 +0000, George Shirley said: > > > On 8/26/2015 5:57 PM, gn.natoli wrote: > >> On Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 6:23:34 PM UTC-4, Marilyn wrote: > >>> I've gotten to the point where I don't like to use jars that are not > >>> specifically marketed for canning, but the jars that the Classico brand of > >>> spaghetti sauce comes in are labeled as Atlas mason jars. Now, I know that > >>> once upon a time, there were Atlas jars that were told for home canning, but > >>> I'm told that the jars the spaghetti sauce comes in are not exactly the same > >>> and that they are thinner. Some people say they use them, others say that > >>> they are not made to be reused over and over again and that they have a high > >>> rate of seal failure and breakage. > >>> > >>> I prefer not to, but what's the consensus here? > >>> > >>> National Center for Home Food Preservation says you can use commercial jars > >>> for acid foods, i.e., those you BWB, but expect that they might not seal > >>> properly or the jars might break. > >>> > >>> I'm asking this because well-meaning coworkers of my husband keep bringing > >>> him the jars because they know I can and I have told him that I don't want > >>> jars unless they are "real" canning jars, but they want a detailed > >>> explanation. I already gave them the info from the NCHFP, word for word. I > >>> don't want to sound like an ingrate, but honestly, I invest too much time > >>> and energy into canning to have things fail because the jars weren't good. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> -Marilyn > >> > >> Does anyone know where to buy the Atlas jars without buying classico sauce? > >> > > A few years ago Classico went to the common lid that other > > manufacturers use. Mason jar rings and lids no longer seal on them. > > There are places on line to buy the same lid that the big manufacturers > > use. > > > > I've only ever seen the Atlas jars with Classico sauce in them. Atlas > > was a brand name canning jar many years ago as we were still using and > > buying them in the forties and fifties. That's if an old memory is > > correct. A little search on line shows that the OLD Atlas jars have > > some value but not as modern canning jars. > > > > Probably best to stick with Ball and Kerr mason jars for your canning > > nowadays. We have modern canning jars that are at least fifty years old > > and they're still holding goodies if handled properly. I can only > > remember having two canning jars break while I was filling them so they > > do last a long time. > > > > George > > Have you seen/tried one lately, Jorge? Seems I read that Classico > caved to public wishes and went back to a jar that takes a standard > canning jar lid. > -- > -- > Barb > www.barbschaller.com, last update April 2013 How did Classico get the Atlas jars anyway? Did they buy out the Atlas jar company? |
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