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Dick Adams
 
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Maple Wine, not Maple Mead. I find recipes here and there,
now and then. But success stories I have yet to hear or
read and I've yet to find a commercial Maple Wine. Is
anyone aware of one?

I have spoken with (not just e-mailed) six maple producers
over the last 4 weeks. None have tried to brew it (Maple
Beer: Yes; Maple Wine: No) and none have ever seen it
commercially.

Anyone have a clue as to what is the problem?

Dick
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Ray Calvert
 
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I have never made it. Maple is not readily available and is expensive down
here in Texas. But, it is discussed a lot on the rec.crafts.meadmaking
group. I am sure you will find people there who have made it and can
intelligently discuss it with you.

Ray

"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
> Maple Wine, not Maple Mead. I find recipes here and there,
> now and then. But success stories I have yet to hear or
> read and I've yet to find a commercial Maple Wine. Is
> anyone aware of one?
>
> I have spoken with (not just e-mailed) six maple producers
> over the last 4 weeks. None have tried to brew it (Maple
> Beer: Yes; Maple Wine: No) and none have ever seen it
> commercially.
>
> Anyone have a clue as to what is the problem?
>
> Dick



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"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
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> Maple Wine, not Maple Mead. I find recipes here and there,
> now and then. But success stories I have yet to hear or
> read and I've yet to find a commercial Maple Wine. Is
> anyone aware of one?
>
> I have spoken with (not just e-mailed) six maple producers
> over the last 4 weeks. None have tried to brew it (Maple
> Beer: Yes; Maple Wine: No) and none have ever seen it
> commercially.
>
> Anyone have a clue as to what is the problem?
>

Do you mean maple sap wine? A quick google will net you lots of recipes.

Comercially maple syrup blended with grape wine is available from a winery
in Naramata BC.


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"Dick Adams" > wrote in message
...
> Maple Wine, not Maple Mead. I find recipes here and there,
> now and then. But success stories I have yet to hear or
> read and I've yet to find a commercial Maple Wine. Is
> anyone aware of one?
>
> I have spoken with (not just e-mailed) six maple producers
> over the last 4 weeks. None have tried to brew it (Maple
> Beer: Yes; Maple Wine: No) and none have ever seen it
> commercially.
>
> Anyone have a clue as to what is the problem?
>

Do you mean maple sap wine? A quick google will net you lots of recipes.

Comercially maple syrup blended with grape wine is available from a winery
in Naramata BC.


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There is a commercial maple wine made and available here in Nova Scotia
(probably available throughout Canada), which is made by Jost
Vineyards. You can find a description of it at
http://www.jostwine.com/selection.html

Apparently, it's made with maple syrup and fresh maple sap. I've tried
it, and it is a very nice dessert wine. It is very sweet, and the
maple flavour definitely shines through.

Jesse



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I recently made 5 Gallons for Maple Syrup wine. Started out with 2
gallons of Syrup, and added water to get it to s.g. 1.095. Used a dry
wine yeast.. It came out pretty strong, and had to dilute it with a
little water, and a little more syrup. It's definately worth a try.
RogerK

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You're the first Nova Scotian I've seen on here (besides me)!

I'd also be interested in making a maple wine. I've never tried the Jost
variety, might be worth a go.

KD


"Jesse" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> There is a commercial maple wine made and available here in Nova Scotia
> (probably available throughout Canada), which is made by Jost
> Vineyards. You can find a description of it at
> http://www.jostwine.com/selection.html
>
> Apparently, it's made with maple syrup and fresh maple sap. I've tried
> it, and it is a very nice dessert wine. It is very sweet, and the
> maple flavour definitely shines through.
>
> Jesse
>



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You're the first Nova Scotian I've seen on here (besides me)!

I'd also be interested in making a maple wine. I've never tried the Jost
variety, might be worth a go.

KD


"Jesse" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> There is a commercial maple wine made and available here in Nova Scotia
> (probably available throughout Canada), which is made by Jost
> Vineyards. You can find a description of it at
> http://www.jostwine.com/selection.html
>
> Apparently, it's made with maple syrup and fresh maple sap. I've tried
> it, and it is a very nice dessert wine. It is very sweet, and the
> maple flavour definitely shines through.
>
> Jesse
>



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On 10 Jan 2005 15:35:42 -0800, "Jesse" >
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>There is a commercial maple wine made and available here in Nova Scotia
>(probably available throughout Canada),


You'd be amazed at what is not available throughout Canada. I've seen
mead in stores in Quebec, but never in Alberta and British Columbia
(and I've spent a heck of a lot more time shopping for alcohol in my
years out west than I did in my week in Montreal).

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KD wrote:
> You're the first Nova Scotian I've seen on here (besides me)!
>
> I'd also be interested in making a maple wine. I've never tried the

Jost
> variety, might be worth a go.
>
> KD
>


Ah, a fellow bluenoser! I just started following
req.crafts.winemaking, and have found it to be extremely informative,
although I wouldn't have guessed any other Nova Scotians would be
lurking about.

We do have excellent maple sap and syrup in our province; I too would
like to make a maple wine, or maybe a mead.

What part of the province do you live in, if you don't mind my asking?

Jesse


>
> "Jesse" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> > There is a commercial maple wine made and available here in Nova

Scotia
> > (probably available throughout Canada), which is made by Jost
> > Vineyards. You can find a description of it at
> > http://www.jostwine.com/selection.html
> >
> > Apparently, it's made with maple syrup and fresh maple sap. I've

tried
> > it, and it is a very nice dessert wine. It is very sweet, and the
> > maple flavour definitely shines through.
> >
> > Jesse
> >


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KD wrote:
> You're the first Nova Scotian I've seen on here (besides me)!
>
> I'd also be interested in making a maple wine. I've never tried the

Jost
> variety, might be worth a go.
>
> KD
>


Ah, a fellow bluenoser! I just started following
req.crafts.winemaking, and have found it to be extremely informative,
although I wouldn't have guessed any other Nova Scotians would be
lurking about.

We do have excellent maple sap and syrup in our province; I too would
like to make a maple wine, or maybe a mead.

What part of the province do you live in, if you don't mind my asking?

Jesse


>
> "Jesse" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> > There is a commercial maple wine made and available here in Nova

Scotia
> > (probably available throughout Canada), which is made by Jost
> > Vineyards. You can find a description of it at
> > http://www.jostwine.com/selection.html
> >
> > Apparently, it's made with maple syrup and fresh maple sap. I've

tried
> > it, and it is a very nice dessert wine. It is very sweet, and the
> > maple flavour definitely shines through.
> >
> > Jesse
> >


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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:52:09 -0500, "Bob" > wrote:

> Anyone know if diammonium phosphate is an acid or base? Sounds like a
>base to me.....


It's amphoteric, actually- it swings both ways. I suspect it's more
basic than acidic, but I'll have a chance to look up the numbers after
class.

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"Darren George" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:52:09 -0500, "Bob" > wrote:
>
> > Anyone know if diammonium phosphate is an acid or base? Sounds like a
> >base to me.....

>
> It's amphoteric, actually- it swings both ways.


Great. My wine additives are bisexual. Wonder what that does to the wine
drinker......

I suspect it's more
> basic than acidic, but I'll have a chance to look up the numbers after
> class.
>
> ---The Mad Alchemist---
> http://www.mad-alchemy.com
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"Darren George" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:52:09 -0500, "Bob" > wrote:
>
> > Anyone know if diammonium phosphate is an acid or base? Sounds like a
> >base to me.....

>
> It's amphoteric, actually- it swings both ways.


Great. My wine additives are bisexual. Wonder what that does to the wine
drinker......

I suspect it's more
> basic than acidic, but I'll have a chance to look up the numbers after
> class.
>
> ---The Mad Alchemist---
> http://www.mad-alchemy.com
> Email sent to the above address, unless clearly marked
> as wine or heraldry, will be deleted unread.





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"Bob" > wrote in message
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>
> > > Anyone know if diammonium phosphate is an acid or base?
> > >Sounds like a base to me.....

> >
> > It's amphoteric, actually- it swings both ways.

>
> Great. My wine additives are bisexual. Wonder what that does to the
> wine drinker......


Nothing more than the alcohol itself will do.

> > I suspect it's more basic than acidic, but I'll have a chance to look up
> > the numbers after class.


I knew there was something I was forgetting to do. Diammonium phosphate
contains the ammonium ion (NH4 +, a very weak acid) and the hydrogen
phosphate ion (HPO4 2-), which is amphoteric. However, it's much more basic
than acidic- if you had that ion in water without the ammonium, it would
give a pH of about 10. The ammonium would moderate that a little- I
calculate that a 0.1 mol/L sol'n of the salt would be about 8ish, which is
basic.

So, yeah, it's more basic than acidic.


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"Bob" > wrote in message
news
>
> > > Anyone know if diammonium phosphate is an acid or base?
> > >Sounds like a base to me.....

> >
> > It's amphoteric, actually- it swings both ways.

>
> Great. My wine additives are bisexual. Wonder what that does to the
> wine drinker......


Nothing more than the alcohol itself will do.

> > I suspect it's more basic than acidic, but I'll have a chance to look up
> > the numbers after class.


I knew there was something I was forgetting to do. Diammonium phosphate
contains the ammonium ion (NH4 +, a very weak acid) and the hydrogen
phosphate ion (HPO4 2-), which is amphoteric. However, it's much more basic
than acidic- if you had that ion in water without the ammonium, it would
give a pH of about 10. The ammonium would moderate that a little- I
calculate that a 0.1 mol/L sol'n of the salt would be about 8ish, which is
basic.

So, yeah, it's more basic than acidic.


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