I read in the newspaper that an upscale restaurant will automatically tack
on a twenty percent tip on each customers bill. The article implied that
this would become a trend.

Tom

In article >,
"Tom or Mary" > wrote:

> I read in the newspaper that an upscale restaurant will automatically tack
> on a twenty percent tip on each customers bill. The article implied that
> this would become a trend.

I doubt it, at least not in the United States.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:09:54 -0400, "Tom or Mary" > wrote:

>I read in the newspaper that an upscale restaurant will automatically tack
>on a twenty percent tip on each customers bill. The article implied that
>this would become a trend.

Yeah, well, you can read almost anything in a newspaper if you look around
enough. What's your point? At least what country are you speaking of?

-- Larry

In Europe this is quite the practice to include a tip into the bill. I doubt
this will catch on in North America. I do it in my place for groups of 12 or
more...but they know that before hand.


"Tom or Mary" > wrote in message
...
> I read in the newspaper that an upscale restaurant will automatically tack
> on a twenty percent tip on each customers bill. The article implied that
> this would become a trend.
>
> Tom
>
>

Gimme a Break wrote:

> In Europe this is quite the practice to include a tip into the bill. I
> doubt this will catch on in North America. I do it in my place for groups
> of 12 or more...but they know that before hand.

What do you mean by "Europe"?

You know Europe...it contains countries like, Italy, Germany, England,
Spain, France, etc....you know Europe...pick up a globe or an Atlas and have
a read...you may learn something.


"Thomas Müller" > wrote in message
...
> Gimme a Break wrote:
>
> > In Europe this is quite the practice to include a tip into the bill. I
> > doubt this will catch on in North America. I do it in my place for
groups
> > of 12 or more...but they know that before hand.
>
> What do you mean by "Europe"?

Gimme a Break > topposts,

>You know Europe...it contains countries like, Italy, Germany, England,
>Spain, France, etc....you know Europe...pick up a globe or an Atlas and have
>a read...you may learn something.

>> What do you mean by "Europe"?

I never recall having a tip automatically added on in the U.K.
You tip in restaurants similarly to the U.S., but not in pubs.
(Unless is a food-desintation pub.)

In Italy, they'd add a cover charge (fixed fee per table
or per person), and then a service charge (varies, but something
like 5%). I think this is more common in tourist areas.
The expectation is the diner will add on to bring the total tip
up into the 10% - 15% range.

I assume there are other European countries where the custom
is not to tip hardly at all.

Steve

Yes, i know europe, its all around me. And first, it doesnt make sense to
say "In Europe this is quite the practice..." since as you say, europe
consists of many different countries. And second, I've been to restaurants
in 8 different european countries and I never had a tip on the bill.

Thomas

> You know Europe...it contains countries like, Italy, Germany, England,
> Spain, France, etc....you know Europe...pick up a globe or an Atlas and
> have a read...you may learn something.
>
>
> "Thomas Müller" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Gimme a Break wrote:
>>
>> > In Europe this is quite the practice to include a tip into the bill. I
>> > doubt this will catch on in North America. I do it in my place for
> groups
>> > of 12 or more...but they know that before hand.
>>
>> What do you mean by "Europe"?

Jesus, this is a prime example of why auto gratuity is put onto bills.
People have conflicting ideas and ever changing personalities. The only
thing that stays the same, is that there are service people who are trying
to make a living dealing with people like you. In my opinion, there should
be an auto gratuity everywhere. The old meaning of "gratuity" means "to
ensure great service". To, ENSURE great service; and it was primarily given
at the beginning of the meal. As a restaurant manager myself, one difficulty
I have is convincing my service people that more sales equals higher tips.
If there was guaranteed gratuity percentage based on sales, than that would
be good for the servers (more money), that would be good for my restaurant
(higher sales so they can make more money), and it would be good for the
guests (higher quality food through suggestive offers and an ENSURED good
service). I would ensure them because it would allow me the opportunity to
turn over any server who was not performing to the highest degree. I am sure
that it would be a prime work industry as well where people would want to
work; applications for people to replace the bad ones would be plentiful.

Any other Ideas you all may have; something a bit more inspiring than where
exactly Europe is?

Jesse

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"Thomas Müller" > wrote in message
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> Yes, i know europe, its all around me. And first, it doesnt make sense to
> say "In Europe this is quite the practice..." since as you say, europe
> consists of many different countries. And second, I've been to restaurants
> in 8 different european countries and I never had a tip on the bill.
>
> Thomas
>
>> You know Europe...it contains countries like, Italy, Germany, England,
>> Spain, France, etc....you know Europe...pick up a globe or an Atlas and
>> have a read...you may learn something.
>>
>>
>> "Thomas Müller" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Gimme a Break wrote:
>>>
>>> > In Europe this is quite the practice to include a tip into the bill. I
>>> > doubt this will catch on in North America. I do it in my place for
>> groups
>>> > of 12 or more...but they know that before hand.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by "Europe"?
>