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Tracked down a recipe for this at last in the great man's own book, 100%
Pain, available from amazon.fr. I'll post it if anyone is interested. NB: I'm sure regulars know this, but over in France Le Gout de Pain, by Raymond Calvel is a. cheap and b. a textbook sold in chef equipment stores for around 20 euros, as opposed to the foolishly priced US translation for $100. It's sooo Parisian to PUNISH you like that for not knowing French. The original is actually pretty easy to follow. Kayser's technique is interesting, too - after quite a short autolyse, 30 mins, he divides the dough, then gives it an hour or so, then shapes, and the final proof is long, 1.5 + hours. All his breads use a liquid levain and fresh yeast. -- Jane Lumley |
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:10:21 +0000, Jane Lumley
> wrote: >NB: I'm sure regulars know this, but over in France Le Gout de Pain, by >Raymond Calvel is a. cheap and b. a textbook sold in chef equipment >stores for around 20 euros, as opposed to the foolishly priced US >translation for $100. It's sooo Parisian to PUNISH you like that for >not knowing French. The original is actually pretty easy to follow. Hi Jane, No need to blame the French for the price. The English version of the book was published in Maryland... All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:10:21 +0000, Jane Lumley
> wrote: >NB: I'm sure regulars know this, but over in France Le Gout de Pain, by >Raymond Calvel is a. cheap and b. a textbook sold in chef equipment >stores for around 20 euros, as opposed to the foolishly priced US >translation for $100. It's sooo Parisian to PUNISH you like that for >not knowing French. The original is actually pretty easy to follow. Hi Jane, No need to blame the French for the price. The English version of the book was published in Maryland... All the best, -- Kenneth If you email... Please remove the "SPAMLESS." |
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Jane Lumley Mar 1, 1:10 am wrote:
> Tracked down a recipe for this at last in the great man's own book, > 100% Pain, available from amazon.fr. I'll post it if anyone is > interested. Hi Jane, I'm interested. I'd like to see that recipe although it's likely I will make it "100%" sourdough. ![]() Merci) --Lisse ![]() |
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Jane Lumley Mar 7, 6:39 am wrote
A Lovely Recipe! Hello Jane, You are miraculous! I hope this was not too much trouble to scan. I must say that this is a rich recipe. Is this typical for Eric Kayser's book? 165g of nuts and 75g butter in 500g flour? Or can you tell my hips there is a misprint, please! ![]() Currently I am far away from French flour. I am getting wonderful Montana flour and grains from the states delivered to me in Northern Mexico. But this is one of my few luxury items. French flour for French recipes? Now that is something to consider... Thank you, so much --Lisse ![]() |
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Jane Lumley Mar 7, 6:39 am wrote
A Lovely Recipe! Hello Jane, I wrote you a note of thanks yesterday for this wonderful recipe and it has not shown up. (Perhaps the note is still circling the trumpet?? After a day I don't think so.) Is the 75g butter correct, are Kayser's recipes typically so rich? ![]() As to French flour, I apologize, I am no good as a source since I'm in Northern Mexico and far out of the loop, which is one reason I do enjoy your reports. Thank you again! --Lisse ![]() |
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:42:45 +0000, Jane Lumley
> wrote: >In article . com>, writes >>Jane Lumley Mar 7, 6:39 am wrote >>A Lovely Recipe! >> >>Hello Jane, >>You are miraculous! I hope this was not too much trouble to scan. >> >>I must say that this is a rich recipe. Is this typical for Eric >>Kayser's book? 165g of nuts and 75g butter in 500g flour? Or can you >>tell my hips there is a misprint, please! ![]() >No, no misprint; this is a rich bread. But not all his are like that; >most are water/flour/levain/salt, in good French fashion! >> >>Currently I am far away from French flour. I am getting wonderful >>Montana flour and grains from the states delivered to me in Northern >>Mexico. But this is one of my few luxury items. French flour for French >>recipes? Now that is something to consider... >> >>Thank you, so much >> >>--Lisse ![]() >> Jane, if you happen to have a translation of the recipe handy, I would love to try making the bread. Boron |
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Boron Elgar Mar 9, 6:37 am wrote:
Jane, if you happen to have a translation of the recipe handy, I would love to try making the bread. Boron Hello Boron, Subject to my ability, I''ll give it a quick go. Kind people here will likely help me with anything I get wrong. --Lisse ![]() Cumin Bread 500 g of traditional flour 25 g sugar 75 g liquid levain (sourdough!) 10 g fresh yeast from the baker 15 g hazelnuts shelled 150 g green walnuts 20 g milk powder 75 g butter 10 g salt 2 g (1/2 tsp) of curcuma [cumin/or perhaps turmeric] 25 cl [250ml or g] of water at 20 C. 1. Crumble the fresh yeast in a bowl, dilute in 10 cl [100ml] of water, slightly tepid and leave at room temperature about twenty minutes, or until the mixture begins to ferment. 2. In a salad bowl, put flour, milk powder, sugar, the soft butter, the cumin and salt. Mix well. Create a well and add the diluted yeast with the liquid levain and the balance of the water. Mix again and pour the dough on well floured work table. Knead it then for 10-12 minutes, just until it is firm. Put it back in the salad bowl, cover with a wet cloth and let rest at ambient temperature for 30 minutes. 3. Return the dough to the well-floured work-table, knead it with the walnuts and the hazelnuts, sufficiently long to insure a good rise, and let raise in the [covered] salad bowl for 40 minutes. 4. Divide the dough in three pieces of the same weight. Shape them in batards and place on a baking sheet-pan papered with a baking sheet (sulphurised paper). Immediately give ten strokes of the lame blade longitudinally in epi "ear" fashion on the batards. Cover with a damp cloth and let raise 1 hour. 5. Pre-heat the oven to 240C. When it is has good temperature, throw a little water on the bottom of the oven to facilitate the formation of a crackling crust. Place the loaves in the oven, and let cook for 10 to 12 minutes. |
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Boron Elgar Mar 9, 9:48 am said:
>Thank you. Gloria You're welcome. My pleasure. ![]() |