On Sun, 22 May 2005 00:49:45 GMT, "Gordon Hayes"
> wrote:

>I made a new SD starter after Pesach this year. Didn't get any of mine dried
>in time to save. I used instant yeast to get it going. I understand that the
>acid content of the SD starter will eventually kill off the instant yeast
>which is good. What I wanted to happen.
>
>My question is how long does it take for this to happen. How long will it
>take for the charecteristic SD taste to start coming out?
>
>Gordon in SW IN, USA
>

Hi Gordon,

If your goal was the elimination of the instant yeast, why
did you use it in the first place? It would seem to make
more sense to start with a healthy culture (I an others will
be happy to send some to you) or to make your own from flour
and water alone.

Beyond that, I also have read that the commercial yeast
cannot live in the acid environment of the SD, but don't
know how long it will take for it to die off.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

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Gordon Hayes wrote:
> I made a new SD starter after Pesach this year. Didn't get any of mine dried
> in time to save. I used instant yeast to get it going. I understand that the
> acid content of the SD starter will eventually kill off the instant yeast
> which is good. What I wanted to happen.
>
> My question is how long does it take for this to happen.

Supposedly 3 days with an established starter.

> How long will it
> take for the charecteristic SD taste to start coming out?

Supposedly 20 days of continuous refreshments.

The numbers are somewhere in the

http://samartha.net/SD/docs/DW-post1-4n.html

But - your sourdough taste is very dependent on how you treat your
starter and make your bread.


Samartha

Gordon Hayes wrote:

>
> Samartha,
>
> Thanks for the quick reply.
>
> I have had my culture going now for a little over a week. So the instant
> yeast should have expired. But the starter is much too 'young' to have that
> SD taste.

Actually not. The 20 days was then the Lb SF (Lactobacillus
Sanfrancisco) should show up. If they ever show up or if the baker just
gets better getting his/her trip more together can be guessed with a 50
% chance.

You sure can make good bread with a young starter. And what's one person
perfect sourdough bead/flavor is another person's too bland or too sour
or brick to fend off dogs.

Best is if you figure and try for yourself what you (or your however
closest) like best.

> But my first loaf of bread turned out quite pleasant. I have to
> admit that it wasn't a pure loaf. Sorry. I was in a hurry to take a loaf to
> work as a sample. After all, don't you save the best for last? (chuckle)

Hey - you seem to be right on.


Samartha

Lifespan of Instant yeast in SD starter?
 

On Sun, 22 May 2005 04:11:49 GMT, "Gordon Hayes"
> wrote:

>Another question. Is it true that once you get your SD starter going that
>the wild yeast will keep other wild yeasts from invading the starter?

Howdy,

Yes, there is strong evidence that if a starter is kept
healthy it can live side by side with others each preserving
their characteristics.

All the best,
--
Kenneth

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