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Gordon Hayes 22-05-2005 01:49 AM

Lifespan of Instant yeast in SD starter?
 
I made a new SD starter after Pesach this year. Didn't get any of mine dried
in time to save. I used instant yeast to get it going. I understand that the
acid content of the SD starter will eventually kill off the instant yeast
which is good. What I wanted to happen.

My question is how long does it take for this to happen. How long will it
take for the charecteristic SD taste to start coming out?

Gordon in SW IN, USA



Samartha Deva 22-05-2005 02:04 AM

Gordon Hayes wrote:
> I made a new SD starter after Pesach this year. Didn't get any of mine dried
> in time to save. I used instant yeast to get it going. I understand that the
> acid content of the SD starter will eventually kill off the instant yeast
> which is good. What I wanted to happen.
>
> My question is how long does it take for this to happen.


Supposedly 3 days with an established starter.

> How long will it
> take for the charecteristic SD taste to start coming out?


Supposedly 20 days of continuous refreshments.

The numbers are somewhere in the

http://samartha.net/SD/docs/DW-post1-4n.html

But - your sourdough taste is very dependent on how you treat your
starter and make your bread.


Samartha

Gordon Hayes 22-05-2005 05:16 AM


"Samartha Deva" > wrote in message
news:mailman.1116723985.6188.rec.food.sourdough@ww w.mountainbitwarrior.com...
> Gordon Hayes wrote:
> > I made a new SD starter after Pesach this year. Didn't get any of mine

dried
> > in time to save. I used instant yeast to get it going. I understand that

the
> > acid content of the SD starter will eventually kill off the instant

yeast
> > which is good. What I wanted to happen.
> >
> > My question is how long does it take for this to happen.

>
> Supposedly 3 days with an established starter.


<--snip-->

> Samartha


Samartha,

Thanks for the quick reply.

I have had my culture going now for a little over a week. So the instant
yeast should have expired. But the starter is much too 'young' to have that
SD taste. But my first loaf of bread turned out quite pleasant. I have to
admit that it wasn't a pure loaf. Sorry. I was in a hurry to take a loaf to
work as a sample. After all, don't you save the best for last? (chuckle)

Gordon



Dick Adams 22-05-2005 02:29 PM


"Gordon Hayes" > wrote in message =
m...

> I did have a start of Carl Griffith's Oregon SD ... but
> I got rid off it.


Hey, that was a real good start!

: |

> Think I will donate some more money to their cause.


They should donate some money to your cause.


Brian Mailman 22-05-2005 05:19 PM

Gordon Hayes wrote:

> ... Would like to eventually get a real SF SD start.


i'm in san francisco and regularly make the offer to send a doughball
out. my reply to; address is valid, write to me and i'll give info on
where to send a sase. btw, it's from pareve bowls if that's a concern.

b/

Brian Mailman 22-05-2005 05:24 PM

Dick Adams wrote:

>> Think I will donate some more money to their cause.

>
> They should donate some money to your cause.


he said 'didn't get a start dried before pesach.' that's 'passover,' at
which time observant jews rid their houses of wheat, among other things.
he felt he had no choice but to toss it.

gordon, next year you don't have to dry it--just put the starter in a
jar you can seal; we use one of those old canning jars with the bail and
gasket that clamps tight, sell it to a neighbor and buy it back after
the holiday.

b/


Mike Avery 22-05-2005 06:01 PM

Brian Mailman wrote:

> Dick Adams wrote:
>
>>> Think I will donate some more money to their cause.

>>
>>
>> They should donate some money to your cause.

>
>
> he said 'didn't get a start dried before pesach.' that's 'passover,'
> at which time observant jews rid their houses of wheat, among other
> things. he felt he had no choice but to toss it.
>
> gordon, next year you don't have to dry it--just put the starter in a
> jar you can seal; we use one of those old canning jars with the bail
> and gasket that clamps tight, sell it to a neighbor and buy it back
> after the holiday.


I always try to understand (human) cultures other than my own, so
sometimes I ask questions that seem offensive, though they aren't
intended that way. I rarely try to offend, but when I am trying, it's
not subtle (as with the recent note to DanW).

All of which brings me to the question.... isn't this selling to a
neighbor and buying back adhering to the letter of the law while
violating it's spirit? What if your neighbor opens the jar? At that
point, it's no longer Kosher.

Again, I'm not trying to rattle your chain, I'm trying to understand
practices that aren't immediately obvious to me.

Respectfully,
Mike


Gordon Hayes 22-05-2005 10:37 PM

Mike,

No offence taken by anyone on the list. Like Brian said. Somethings are
difficult to explain across cultures. I won't keep riding this horse as it
is getting off topic.

Gordon

"Mike Avery" > wrote in message
news:mailman.5.1116781281.15451.rec.food.sourdough @mail.otherwhen.com...
> <snip>
> I always try to understand (human) cultures other than my own, so
> sometimes I ask questions that seem offensive, though they aren't
> intended that way. I rarely try to offend, but when I am trying, it's
> not subtle (as with the recent note to DanW).
> <snip>
> Respectfully,
> Mike
>




Coloma 23-05-2005 07:02 PM

Hi Brian

I would like a bit of your starter if you would be so kind as to share
it with me.

Please send your address so that I can send you some postage for it.

Thanks I really appreciate you doing this for us.

Take care
Charlean




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