My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.

This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?

Sandy

Sandy wrote:

> My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
> terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
> salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
> some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
> first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
> twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
> little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>
> This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?

You should be concerned, because food poison takes a bit longer
than that. So chances are you got it elsewhere (or this is fake).

Some food poisoning can take up to 48 hours to hit you, so think
about the last two days worth of meals. One of them was tainted.

--
Dan

>> My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night.
>> We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly
>> maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with
>> the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us
>> had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him,
>> and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice
>> to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>> little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>
>> This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>
>You should be concerned, because food poison takes a bit longer
>than that. So chances are you got it elsewhere (or this is fake).
>
>Some food poisoning can take up to 48 hours to hit you, so think
>about the last two days worth of meals. One of them was tainted.

There are different types of food poisoning. Some poisons are
poisons (fugu: tetrodotoxin, FAST!). Some are allergens and can
cause anaphylactic shock (FAST). A lot of people have allergies
to shellfish, for example.

Many types of food poisoning are due to infectious agents
and symptoms are slower to appear. Bacterial infections:
salmonella, coliform, staph, E. coli, etc.

Other than the really FAST poisons (above), symptoms such as
yours from other poisons / allegens can appear in as little
as one hour - sometimes. Maybe three hours is more common
but an hour isn't impossible.

While I do think you and your husband should retrace your steps,
er, meals, it is possible that the problem was caused by something
in your sushi meal; not necessarily the sushi, but something
consumed at that restaurant. Do both of you have any food
allergies? E.g., bisulfite in wine or on salads causes respiratory
problems in sensitive people. It's an example of something you
might not have thought about. Maybe there was another additive
or preservative that caused your D problem?






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Sushi wrote:

>>>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night.
>>>We aren't terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly
>>>maguro, hamachi, and salmon. We had these items along with
>>>the nice cucumber/crab salad and some miso soup. Both of us
>>>had to excuse ourselves from the table, me first, then him,
>>>and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened twice
>>>to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>>>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>>
>>>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>>>
>>You should be concerned, because food poison takes a bit longer
>>than that. So chances are you got it elsewhere (or this is fake).
>>
>>Some food poisoning can take up to 48 hours to hit you, so think
>>about the last two days worth of meals. One of them was tainted.
>>
>
> There are different types of food poisoning. Some poisons are
> poisons (fugu: tetrodotoxin, FAST!). Some are allergens and can
> cause anaphylactic shock (FAST). A lot of people have allergies
> to shellfish, for example.


True, but if it were fugo poisoning, I don't think we'd be responding
to this person.


> Other than the really FAST poisons (above), symptoms such as
> yours from other poisons / allegens can appear in as little
> as one hour - sometimes. Maybe three hours is more common
> but an hour isn't impossible.


The fastest sympton I've had was about 3 hours.


> While I do think you and your husband should retrace your steps,
> er, meals, it is possible that the problem was caused by something
> in your sushi meal; not necessarily the sushi, but something
> consumed at that restaurant. Do both of you have any food
> allergies? E.g., bisulfite in wine or on salads causes respiratory
> problems in sensitive people. It's an example of something you
> might not have thought about. Maybe there was another additive
> or preservative that caused your D problem?

My father told me about an asthma attack he had due to sulfites used
to preserve lettuce. But that was an instant reaction, not an hour
or three. Most people I've talked with who have food allergies report
symptoms very quickly after exposure.

I just thought about something. Did they drink hot tea and miso soup
at the beginning of the meal?

--
Dan

"Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
...

> The fastest sympton I've had was about 3 hours.

Pepperoni pizza and a pitcher of cold beer will get you down to one hour or
less.

Once upon a time, we were so hungry, we ate some hamachi sushi that looked a
bit long in the tooth. It was. Once we got home (45 minutes later), it was
a made dash (fighting off the spouse) to the nearest biffy.

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:28:26 GMT, Sandy >
wrote:

>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>
>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>
>Sandy

Probably wasn't from the sushi. In addition to the suggestions to
retrace your other culinary steps for the weekend, consider that some
people can be sensitive to overly fatty foods - if the salad had a lot
of mayo or oil, that could have triggered it. Also, some people can
be sensitive to having a hot or warm soup or beverage with their meal.
It may "push" things along. Especially if you had something with
fiber in it earlier in the day.

Scoop

Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just
cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and
salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri,
which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls
with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me
again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried.
My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm.
But, from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms
for awhile.

Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a
difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner
for us...

Thanks,

Sandy

Dan Logcher wrote:
> Sushi wrote:
>
> I just thought about something. Did they drink hot tea and miso soup
> at the beginning of the meal?
>

"Sandy" > wrote in message
news:xUSwb.232238$ao4.832639@attbi_s51...
> Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just
> cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and
> salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri,
> which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls
> with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me
> again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried.
> My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm.
> But, from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms
> for awhile.
>
> Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a
> difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner
> for us...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sandy
>
>

Because doctors have found that vegetables can carry e. coli. If produce is
imported from countries where the sanitation and fertilizers are different
from our own, you can end up getting sick from ingesting fecal matter.

In other words, it might have been the fish, the veggies, or pretty much
anything you ate that night, if a server or food prep person didn't wash up
properly or if the fish was kept too warm or if the the table wasn't wiped
down well or if the vegetables came from a section of Latin America or the
Caribbean where human and animal dung are used as fertilizer.

I wish I could be more comforting.

Sandy wrote:

> Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just
> cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and
> salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri,
> which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls
> with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me
> again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried.
> My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But,
> from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for
> awhile.

>

> Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a
> difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner
> for us...

I had a few bouts similar to this after drinking hot green tea and
miso soup. I would doubt there was any "germs" in the tea, that stuff
was super heated. I burned my mouth once when I didn't notice the
waitress had filled my mug.

Anyway, someone here concluded that it may have been the hot liquids
that were the cause. I don't recall if I had salad on either occasion.

--
Dan

Dan Logcher > wrote in message >...
> Sandy wrote:
>
> > Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just
> > cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and
> > salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri,
> > which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls
> > with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me
> > again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried.
> > My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But,
> > from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for
> > awhile.
>
> >
>
> > Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a
> > difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner
> > for us...
>
> I had a few bouts similar to this after drinking hot green tea and
> miso soup. I would doubt there was any "germs" in the tea, that stuff
> was super heated. I burned my mouth once when I didn't notice the
> waitress had filled my mug.
>
> Anyway, someone here concluded that it may have been the hot liquids
> that were the cause. I don't recall if I had salad on either occasion.

I've also become ill after drinking several cups of green tea. I
don't drink much caffeine and blamed it on having a lot of caffeine in
a short period of time. A cup doesn't bother me, but several did.
(And this was at home, when I was NOT eating, and the same brand from
the same package that didn't make me sick after 1 did after 3.)

Jeffrey Barker wrote:

> Dan Logcher > wrote in message >...
>
>>Sandy wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Yes, we both had hot tea, and we both had Miso Soup. The salad was just
>>>cucumber, crab, and the vinegar/sugar mix, and then the tuna/hamachi and
>>> salmon nigiri(s). I felt ill before I finished six pieces of nigiri,
>>>which followed the soup and salad. When I came back, we had a few rolls
>>>with the same types of fish, plus some scallops, and it happened to me
>>>again, and to him for the first time. I'm fine now, so I'm not worried.
>>> My only real concern was the salmon and the threat of a tapeworm. But,
>>>from what I've been reading, I wouldn't really have any symptoms for
>>>awhile.
>>>
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>>>Anyway, thank you for your input. Why does soup and salad make a
>>>difference? That's what we usually have -- this was a typical dinner
>>>for us...
>>>
>>I had a few bouts similar to this after drinking hot green tea and
>>miso soup. I would doubt there was any "germs" in the tea, that stuff
>>was super heated. I burned my mouth once when I didn't notice the
>>waitress had filled my mug.
>>
>>Anyway, someone here concluded that it may have been the hot liquids
>>that were the cause. I don't recall if I had salad on either occasion.
>>
>
> I've also become ill after drinking several cups of green tea. I
> don't drink much caffeine and blamed it on having a lot of caffeine in
> a short period of time. A cup doesn't bother me, but several did.
> (And this was at home, when I was NOT eating, and the same brand from
> the same package that didn't make me sick after 1 did after 3.)

I don't think it's the caffeine that does that. I am a regular coffee
drinker, about 3 cups a day all in the morning. My green tea experience
was at lunch, so if it were caffeine, I'd be having the shakes or something.

I think it's the temperature of the tea.

--
Dan

The symptoms you describe are identicle to what happens to me after I
ll the restaurant "NO MSG" or "Eeeah anji no moto" and they ignore me.
Sime elapsed time too. Are you MSG sensitive?

Ken Meyer wrote:

> The symptoms you describe are identicle to what happens to me after I
> ll the restaurant "NO MSG" or "Eeeah anji no moto" and they ignore me.
> Sime elapsed time too. Are you MSG sensitive?

No, not really. It makes me a little tired after eating a lot,
but no other ill effects. I never have digestive issues are
eating Dim Sum, just a little nap.

I was thinking it had to do with the miso paste or just the two
hot liquids in general. I didn't have any cramping like I had
when I got salmonella from a super market deli.

--
Dan

"Sandy" > wrote in message
news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
> My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
> terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
> salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
> some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
> first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
> twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
> little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>
> This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?

from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
your water glass. PO the waitress?

Been gone for around 6 months now, good to see things haven't changed.
Why is it impossible to simply believe the poster? So many doubt the
story or tell them they must not have seen what they saw. As usual
this will keep people coming back for more (abuse). I think not.

Joe
Ex Sushi Zone Regular
Arlington, TX

On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 22:16:11 GMT, "Michael"
> wrote:

>
>"Sandy" > wrote in message
>news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
>> My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>> terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>> salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>> some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>> first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>> twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>> little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>
>> This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>
>from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
>your water glass. PO the waitress?
>

Michael wrote:

> "Sandy" > wrote in message
> news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
>
>>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>
>>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>>
>
> from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
> your water glass. PO the waitress?


Visine will do that?

--
Dan

Joe wrote:

> Been gone for around 6 months now, good to see things haven't changed.
> Why is it impossible to simply believe the poster? So many doubt the
> story or tell them they must not have seen what they saw. As usual
> this will keep people coming back for more (abuse). I think not.


Joe, it could be a million things that would have caused their illness.
No said they weren't ill, just that it could be something other than
sushi. Hey, a guy got shot out front of a sushi bar, think the sushi
killed him? Well it might have if he was running from the bill.

--
Dan

In article >,
Dan Logcher > wrote:
>Michael wrote:
>
>> "Sandy" > wrote in message
>> news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
>>
>>>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>>>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>>>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>>>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>>>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>>>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>>>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>>
>>>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>>>
>>
>> from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
>> your water glass. PO the waitress?
>
>
>Visine will do that?

You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
find.


Chuck Demas

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Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
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Charles Demas wrote:

> In article >,
> Dan Logcher > wrote:
>
>>Michael wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Sandy" > wrote in message
>>>news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>>>>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>>>>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>>>>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>>>>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>>>>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>>>>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>>>
>>>>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
>>>your water glass. PO the waitress?
>>>
>>
>>Visine will do that?
>>
>
> You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
> find.

I found it lengthens life and increases strength. Please try it.

--
Dan

In article >,
Dan Logcher > wrote:
>Charles Demas wrote:
>
>> In article >,
>> Dan Logcher > wrote:
>>
>>>Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Sandy" > wrote in message
>>>>news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>>>>>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>>>>>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>>>>>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>>>>>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>>>>>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>>>>>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
>>>>your water glass. PO the waitress?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Visine will do that?
>>>
>>
>> You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
>> find.
>
>I found it lengthens life and increases strength. Please try it.

How did you verify the lengthen life part?

I found it made me irresistable to women, though I must admit, it was
only a small improvement. :-)


Chuck Demas

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Charles Demas wrote:

> In article >,
> Dan Logcher > wrote:
>
>>Charles Demas wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article >,
>>>Dan Logcher > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Michael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"Sandy" > wrote in message
>>>>>news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>>>>>>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>>>>>>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>>>>>>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>>>>>>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>>>>>>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>>>>>>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
>>>>
>>>>>your water glass. PO the waitress?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Visine will do that?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>You could test this on yourself Dan. Please report back what you
>>>find.
>>>
>>I found it lengthens life and increases strength. Please try it.
>>
>
> How did you verify the lengthen life part?


I could feel the longevity within me.


> I found it made me irresistable to women, though I must admit, it was
> only a small improvement. :-)

How did you verify the irresistability? And was it only to women?

--
Dan

"Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
...
> Michael wrote:
>
> > "Sandy" > wrote in message
> > news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
> >
> >>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
> >>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
> >>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
> >>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
> >>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
> >>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
> >>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
> >>
> >>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
> >>
> >
> > from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine
in
> > your water glass. PO the waitress?
>
>
> Visine will do that?

Oh yea, big time. For other interesting items that might find their way
into your food when you PO the wait staff go to

www.stainedapron.com

Michael wrote:

> "Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Michael wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Sandy" > wrote in message
>>>news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
>>>>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
>>>>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
>>>>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
>>>>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
>>>>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
>>>>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
>>>>
>>>>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine
>>>
> in
>
>>>your water glass. PO the waitress?
>>>
>>
>>Visine will do that?
>>
>
> Oh yea, big time. For other interesting items that might find their way
> into your food when you PO the wait staff go to
>
> www.stainedapron.com

Cripes!!! This is scarey stuff! This is why it could have been a million
things that could have caused their illness.

--
Dan

Dan Logcher > wrote in message >...
> Michael wrote:
>
> > "Sandy" > wrote in message
> > news:KTAwb.298377$Fm2.318569@attbi_s04...
> >
> >>My husband and I went out for Sushi this past Saturday night. We aren't
> >>terribly adventurous in our Sushi-eating; mostly maguro, hamachi, and
> >>salmon. We had these items along with the nice cucumber/crab salad and
> >>some miso soup. Both of us had to excuse ourselves from the table, me
> >>first, then him, and had the "D" word in the bathroom. This happened
> >>twice to me in the same evening, and I've been fine since. Only a
> >>little nausea today, but nothing Sunday.
> >>
> >>This ever happen to anyone eating Sushi? Should I be concerned?
> >>
> >
> > from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine in
> > your water glass. PO the waitress?
>
>
> Visine will do that?


Might want to check out http://www.snopes.com/toxins/visine.asp on
that one. It may cause diarrhea, but it is apparently more
likely to cause illness or death (labored breathing, depressed nervous
system, and more nasty side effects. The diarrhea will be the least
of your
worries.)

Ciao,
Hansen

"Hansen" > wrote in message
om...
> Dan Logcher > wrote in message
>...
> > Michael wrote:
> > > from the symptoms and the speed I would vote for three drops of Visine
in
> > > your water glass. PO the waitress?
> >
> >
> > Visine will do that?
>
>
> Might want to check out http://www.snopes.com/toxins/visine.asp on
> that one. It may cause diarrhea, but it is apparently more
> likely to cause illness or death (labored breathing, depressed nervous
> system, and more nasty side effects. The diarrhea will be the least
> of your
> worries.)

I've never done it but have seen it done to plenty of poor tipping or rude
customers when I worked as a waiter and bartender. After reading your post
I guess we should be glad no one died.

I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it on
regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
galangal, or Thai ginger)

at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
fast.

is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?

I was making Tom Yum a few times, and substituted soy sauce for the fish
sauce because we were out. Then I bought some fish sauce, and went to make
it again, and had that, ahem... problem. Anyway...

good luck tracking it.


"Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
...
> Ken Meyer wrote:
>
> > The symptoms you describe are identicle to what happens to me after I
> > ll the restaurant "NO MSG" or "Eeeah anji no moto" and they ignore me.
> > Sime elapsed time too. Are you MSG sensitive?
>
> No, not really. It makes me a little tired after eating a lot,
> but no other ill effects. I never have digestive issues are
> eating Dim Sum, just a little nap.
>
> I was thinking it had to do with the miso paste or just the two
> hot liquids in general. I didn't have any cramping like I had
> when I got salmonella from a super market deli.
>
> --
> Dan
>

Christopher wrote:

> I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it on
> regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> galangal, or Thai ginger)
>
> at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
> fast.


Right, fast and not painful.. that's what happened to me way back when.


> is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?


No, miso soup is dashi and miso paste.


> I was making Tom Yum a few times, and substituted soy sauce for the fish
> sauce because we were out. Then I bought some fish sauce, and went to make
> it again, and had that, ahem... problem. Anyway...

I use fish sauce often enough to say that's not "my" problem, but you
might have some alergy to it. Someone suggested it might be that
drinking enough hot liquids will do it. But I don't know, I drink hot
coffee and other soups on a regular basis without a problem.

--
Dan

"Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
...
> Christopher wrote:
>
> > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it
on
> > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> >
> > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
> > fast.
>
>
> Right, fast and not painful.. that's what happened to me way back when.
>
>
> > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
>
>
> No, miso soup is dashi and miso paste.
>
>
> > I was making Tom Yum a few times, and substituted soy sauce for the fish
> > sauce because we were out. Then I bought some fish sauce, and went to
make
> > it again, and had that, ahem... problem. Anyway...
>
> I use fish sauce often enough to say that's not "my" problem, but you
> might have some alergy to it. Someone suggested it might be that
> drinking enough hot liquids will do it. But I don't know, I drink hot
> coffee and other soups on a regular basis without a problem.

yeah me too... just this soup is the thing... and it seems like only with
the fish sauce. but maybe there's something common that's in the fish sauce
and something they ate. Then again maybe it's nothing related

>
> --
> Dan
>

"Christopher" > wrote in message
...
> I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it
on
> regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> galangal, or Thai ginger)
>
> at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
> fast.
>
> is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
>

Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai word
and consists of anchovies and salt.
Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
anything in
common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
bonito),
Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?

to be honest, I have no idea. Just thinking out loud.


"Musashi" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> "Christopher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it
> on
> > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> >
> > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
> > fast.
> >
> > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
> >
>
> Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai word
> and consists of anchovies and salt.
> Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
> anything in
> common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
> bonito),
> Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
> Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?
>
>
>

Christopher wrote:

> "Dan Logcher" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I use fish sauce often enough to say that's not "my" problem, but you
>>might have some alergy to it. Someone suggested it might be that
>>drinking enough hot liquids will do it. But I don't know, I drink hot
>>coffee and other soups on a regular basis without a problem.
>>
>
> yeah me too... just this soup is the thing... and it seems like only with
> the fish sauce. but maybe there's something common that's in the fish sauce
> and something they ate. Then again maybe it's nothing related

Nothing related.. fish sauce is made from tiny fish and miso is
made from soy. Unless the fish are fed soy.. but I doubt it.

--
Dan

although you're likely correct dan, and i don't know the foods that well...
Musashi suggested that it's possible that miso can be made with a fish based
stock... unless i was mistaken... again... i don't know, anyhow... just
ending an all nighter of work... I will take my leave.

8-)

"Musashi" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> "Christopher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it
> on
> > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> >
> > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
> > fast.
> >
> > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
> >
>
> Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai word
> and consists of anchovies and salt.
> Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
> anything in
> common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
> bonito),
> Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
> Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?
>
>
>



"Musashi" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> "Christopher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had it
> on
> > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> >
> > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful... just
> > fast.
> >
> > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
> >
>
> Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai word
> and consists of anchovies and salt.
> Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
> anything in
> common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
> bonito),
> Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
> Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?
>
>
>

Christopher wrote:

> although you're likely correct dan, and i don't know the foods that well...
> Musashi suggested that it's possible that miso can be made with a fish based
> stock... unless i was mistaken... again... i don't know, anyhow... just
> ending an all nighter of work... I will take my leave.

Yes, dashi is the soup stock used in miso soup. Dashi is made from dried
bonito flakes and dried seaweed. So unless you have a problem with fish
or seaweed, I don't think its the fish.

--
Dan

No no...miso is a thick paste made from soybeans and fermented. There is no
fish in miso.
The dashi (stock for the miso soup) will usually have stock from bonito or
anchovies or kelp,
or in some combination.

"Christopher" > wrote in message
...
> although you're likely correct dan, and i don't know the foods that
well...
> Musashi suggested that it's possible that miso can be made with a fish
based
> stock... unless i was mistaken... again... i don't know, anyhow... just
> ending an all nighter of work... I will take my leave.
>
> 8-)
>
> "Musashi" > wrote in message
> . com...
> >
> > "Christopher" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had
it
> > on
> > > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> > > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> > >
> > > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful...
just
> > > fast.
> > >
> > > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
> > >
> >
> > Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai
word
> > and consists of anchovies and salt.
> > Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
> > anything in
> > common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
> > bonito),
> > Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
> > Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> "Musashi" > wrote in message
> . com...
> >
> > "Christopher" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have had
it
> > on
> > > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass and
> > > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> > >
> > > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful...
just
> > > fast.
> > >
> > > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
> > >
> >
> > Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai
word
> > and consists of anchovies and salt.
> > Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there is
> > anything in
> > common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi (shaved
> > bonito),
> > Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
> > Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

sorry... I did mean the soup, and that was perhaps the correlated item.

I will be putting a few drops of fish sauce in my drinking water to find
out, and then do the same with some dashi.... in lieu of visine of course
hehehe



"Musashi" > wrote in message
m...
> No no...miso is a thick paste made from soybeans and fermented. There is
no
> fish in miso.
> The dashi (stock for the miso soup) will usually have stock from bonito or
> anchovies or kelp,
> or in some combination.
>
> "Christopher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > although you're likely correct dan, and i don't know the foods that
> well...
> > Musashi suggested that it's possible that miso can be made with a fish
> based
> > stock... unless i was mistaken... again... i don't know, anyhow... just
> > ending an all nighter of work... I will take my leave.
> >
> > 8-)
> >
> > "Musashi" > wrote in message
> > . com...
> > >
> > > "Christopher" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have
had
> it
> > > on
> > > > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass
and
> > > > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> > > >
> > > > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful...
> just
> > > > fast.
> > > >
> > > > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai
> word
> > > and consists of anchovies and salt.
> > > Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there
is
> > > anything in
> > > common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi
(shaved
> > > bonito),
> > > Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
> > > Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Musashi" > wrote in message
> > . com...
> > >
> > > "Christopher" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I've never had this happen with miso soup and green tea, but have
had
> it
> > > on
> > > > regular occasion with Tom Yum Gai ( a Thai soup, with lemon grass
and
> > > > galangal, or Thai ginger)
> > > >
> > > > at any rate, it's very fast acting, within an hour. Not painful...
> just
> > > > fast.
> > > >
> > > > is there "fish sauce" in miso soup. or is fish sauce a Thai thing?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Fish sauce is called Nanpura in Japanese, i think maybe its the Thai
> word
> > > and consists of anchovies and salt.
> > > Miso soup is mainly Miso (soybean paste) and Dashi (stock). If there
is
> > > anything in
> > > common here it would be that Dashi can be made with Katsuobushi
(shaved
> > > bonito),
> > > Iriko (dried anchovies) and Konbu (kelp).
> > > Is it possible that you are having a reaction to stock from anchovies?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Christopher wrote:

> sorry... I did mean the soup, and that was perhaps the correlated item.
>
> I will be putting a few drops of fish sauce in my drinking water to find
> out, and then do the same with some dashi.... in lieu of visine of course
> hehehe
>
>
>
> "Musashi" > wrote in message
> m...
>
>>No no...miso is a thick paste made from soybeans and fermented. There is
>
> no
>
>>fish in miso.
>>The dashi (stock for the miso soup) will usually have stock from bonito or
>>anchovies or kelp,
>>or in some combination.


If I'm not mistaken, the anchovies used in dashi are also used for fish
sauce. It's a stretch, but I thought I would mention it.