"Sam Salmon" > wrote in message
...

> Well to honour 'due diligence' I just went and did a Google search on
> the term 'Albino Salmon'.
> As I suspected those idiots are all talking about White Spring
> Salmon-Oncorhynchus Tshawytscha (when they aren't talking about
> reptiles that is).

Are you intentionally trying to be dense? "Albino salmon" was your term! I
share with AFS the fact that ivories are typically troll Kings without
normal pigment . . . like albino. A characterizing I believed those not in
the fish/seafood industry would quickly understand. OK? Is that too hard
to understand? You could always go back to the original articles if you are
unsure who said what.

> I'd be doing it now on Red Springs if we hadn't blown the leg on Ken's

blah . . blah . . blah . . blah

You want to hear about my breakfast/golf game/lunch . . of course not. If
it has anything remotely to do with sushi, post it. If not, share
elsewhere.

> In future I suggest you leave Salmon ID to people who catch and kill
> and eat them regularly-your making a fool of yourself over something
> you have absolutely no knowledge of is becoming tiresome.

You are the clown who was so damn sure farm Kings did not exist. Yes? Did
you ever acknowledge your error or consider apologizing to those you so
forcefully said were dead wrong? If you did, I didn't see it.

"Sam Salmon" > wrote in message
...
>
> As fas as I can tell ....
> No one knows if the flesh is white, red or pink until he cuts the
> carcass open-something I know you have never done.


I dunno, we look at the area where the gills attached to the body to tell if
it's a white spring or not. It ain't that hard to tell.

>
>Are you intentionally trying to be dense? "Albino salmon" was your term! I
>share with AFS the fact that ivories are typically troll Kings without
>normal pigment . . . like albino.

I never used the term albino you dimwit stop posting while you're
drunk.

>You are the clown who was so damn sure farm Kings did not exist. Yes?

I know that some farms use Spring Salmon for stockand have never
asserted the contrary.
I've actually been to the farms myself-unlike you.
However Atlantic slugs grow faster in the filthy crowded conditions
your next meal swims in.
It's all about putting flesh on bones and marketing it to the dumb and
credulous-is that how you see yourself?

>you ever acknowledge your error or consider apologizing to those you so
>forcefully said were dead wrong? If you did, I didn't see it.

Apologise for telling people that they're being lied to?
Face it-you lack the brains to think for yourself-it'll never
happen/isn't at all encouraged in your country.
Best you should cozy up to the farmed slug industry for comfort.

"F t B" > wrote in message
news:MeNbc.3815$Sh4.1015@edtnps84...
>
> "Sam Salmon" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > As fas as I can tell ....
> > No one knows if the flesh is white, red or pink until he cuts the
> > carcass open-something I know you have never done.
>
>
> I dunno, we look at the area where the gills attached to the body to tell
if
> it's a white spring or not. It ain't that hard to tell.

No- sorry. Sam has psychic powers. He doesn't know you, but he knows how
often you fish, what you catch, and whether you can identify fish. He's
smart, and you're not.

In the Northeast where we don't mince words, we have a special word for such
experts. We call them 'assholes'.
>
>
>

"Sam Salmon" > wrote in message
...
>
> >
> >Are you intentionally trying to be dense? "Albino salmon" was your term!
I
> >share with AFS the fact that ivories are typically troll Kings without
> >normal pigment . . . like albino.
>
> I never used the term albino you dimwit stop posting while you're
> drunk.

I used the term albino to help the less technically inclined in AFS to
understand what an ivory troll King salmon is. You are the one who first
used the phrase "albino salmon" and now you attribute it to me.
Intellectually dishonest but a trait of cronic net dweebs.

> >You are the clown who was so damn sure farm Kings did not exist. Yes?
>
> I know that some farms use Spring Salmon for stockand have never
> asserted the contrary.
> I've actually been to the farms myself-unlike you.


Shall I go back into the archives and dig out your statement that I knew
next to nothing because farm Kings did not exist. Ah, forget it. A waste
of time.

> However Atlantic slugs grow faster in the filthy crowded conditions
> your next meal swims in.

If salmon farms are such dens of filth, why isn't _YOUR_ government taking a
more proactive approach to cleaning up the industry? After all, aren't all
of those salmon farms operating along the west coast of British Columbia
regulated by an agency of _YOUR_ government?

> It's all about putting flesh on bones and marketing it to the dumb and
> credulous-is that how you see yourself?

That's right. I'll see more fresh fish in one day than you will see in a
lifetime.

Sayonara, dipweed.

O
>
>Shall I go back into the archives and dig out your statement that I knew
>next to nothing because farm Kings did not exist. Ah, forget it. A waste
>of time.
>
I invite you to invent something-let' see if you have the balls little
man.

>> However Atlantic slugs grow faster in the filthy crowded conditions
>> your next meal swims in.
>
>If salmon farms are such dens of filth, why isn't _YOUR_ government taking a
>more proactive approach to cleaning up the industry? After all, aren't all
>of those salmon farms operating along the west coast of British Columbia
>regulated by an agency of _YOUR_ government?
>

The pro-money government here is in the pay of aquaculture interests
and gov't ministers have been caught red handed giving inside info to
aquaculture intersts.We plan to throw them out next year @ election
time.
We live in a democracy here-unlike you.

>> It's all about putting flesh on bones and marketing it to the dumb and
>> credulous-is that how you see yourself?
>
>That's right. I'll see more fresh fish in one day than you will see in a
>lifetime.

How's that?
Are you visiting Tsukiji tomorrow?
I doubt it m'self.
>

Sam Salmon wrote:

>
>>Shall I go back into the archives and dig out your statement that I knew
>>next to nothing because farm Kings did not exist. Ah, forget it. A waste
>>of time.
>>
>>
> I invite you to invent something-let' see if you have the balls little
> man.


No need to invent, it's archived. Hello!

>>If salmon farms are such dens of filth, why isn't _YOUR_ government taking a
>>more proactive approach to cleaning up the industry? After all, aren't all
>>of those salmon farms operating along the west coast of British Columbia
>>regulated by an agency of _YOUR_ government?
>
> The pro-money government here is in the pay of aquaculture interests
> and gov't ministers have been caught red handed giving inside info to
> aquaculture intersts.We plan to throw them out next year @ election
> time. We live in a democracy here-unlike you.


Well, obviously your democratic government, people you vote to office,
see things a little differently than you. So why do you come to AFS to
complain about your countries salmon farms? Shouldn't you find a Canadian
newsgroup to do that in?

>>That's right. I'll see more fresh fish in one day than you will see in a
>>lifetime.
>
> How's that?
> Are you visiting Tsukiji tomorrow?
> I doubt it m'self.

Are you? If not, than I doubt you'll see as much fresh fish as David.
Read and learn little man.

--
Dan

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:55:10 -0400, Dan Logcher
> wrote:

>Sam Salmon wrote:
>
>>
>>>Shall I go back into the archives and dig out your statement that I knew
>>>next to nothing because farm Kings did not exist. Ah, forget it. A waste
>>>of time.
>>>
>>>
>> I invite you to invent something-let' see if you have the balls little
>> man.
>
>
>No need to invent, it's archived. Hello!

Let's see the proof you poor bipolar maniac *******.
>
>>>If salmon farms are such dens of filth, why isn't _YOUR_ government taking a
>>>more proactive approach to cleaning up the industry? After all, aren't all
>>>of those salmon farms operating along the west coast of British Columbia
>>>regulated by an agency of _YOUR_ government?
>>
>> The pro-money government here is in the pay of aquaculture interests
>> and gov't ministers have been caught red handed giving inside info to
>> aquaculture intersts.We plan to throw them out next year @ election
>> time. We live in a democracy here-unlike you.
>
>
>Well, obviously your democratic government, people you vote to office,
>see things a little differently than you. So why do you come to AFS to
>complain about your countries salmon farms? Shouldn't you find a Canadian
>newsgroup to do that in?

Is this a US American newsgroup?
Do you think your miserable dungheap of an empire is the centre of the
world?(that is of course a rhetorical question we all know you and you
gov't's proclivities)
>
>>>That's right. I'll see more fresh fish in one day than you will see in a
>>>lifetime.
>>
>> How's that?
>> Are you visiting Tsukiji tomorrow?
>> I doubt it m'self.
>
>Are you? If not, than I doubt you'll see as much fresh fish as David.
>Read and learn little man.

Reading anything you've posted is an exercise in tedium and bad for
one's digestive system.

Sam Salmon wrote:

> On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 09:55:10 -0400, Dan Logcher
> > wrote:
>
>>>The pro-money government here is in the pay of aquaculture interests
>>>and gov't ministers have been caught red handed giving inside info to
>>>aquaculture intersts.We plan to throw them out next year @ election
>>>time. We live in a democracy here-unlike you.
>>>
>>
>>Well, obviously your democratic government, people you vote to office,
>>see things a little differently than you. So why do you come to AFS to
>>complain about your countries salmon farms? Shouldn't you find a Canadian
>>newsgroup to do that in?
>>
>
> Is this a US American newsgroup?
> Do you think your miserable dungheap of an empire is the centre of the
> world?(that is of course a rhetorical question we all know you and you
> gov't's proclivities)


Of course not, never said it was. But bitching to sushi eaters about
the pro-money government of Canada doesn't really get you anywhere,
except into the net-looney-bin.

Our government is nowhere near perfect, but I'd rather be here than
there.

>>>>That's right. I'll see more fresh fish in one day than you will see in a
>>>>lifetime.
>>>>
>>>How's that?
>>>Are you visiting Tsukiji tomorrow?
>>>I doubt it m'self.
>>>
>>Are you? If not, than I doubt you'll see as much fresh fish as David.
>>Read and learn little man.
>>
>
> Reading anything you've posted is an exercise in tedium and bad for
> one's digestive system.

Too bad for you. All I've heard from you in "farmed salmon bad", and nothing
partaining to sushi. You should try to follow the newsgroup topic, or
maybe another newsgroup would be better suited for you.

--
Dan

>> Reading anything you've posted is an exercise in tedium and bad for
>> one's digestive system.
>
>Too bad for you. All I've heard from you in "farmed salmon bad", and nothing
>partaining to sushi. You should try to follow the newsgroup topic, or
>maybe another newsgroup would be better suited for you.
>
>--
>Dan

Dan - why do you keep feeding the trolls?

C'mon Chuck, I know you're dying to say something here.

Art wrote:

>>>Reading anything you've posted is an exercise in tedium and bad for
>>>one's digestive system.
>>>
>>Too bad for you. All I've heard from you in "farmed salmon bad", and nothing
>>partaining to sushi. You should try to follow the newsgroup topic, or
>>maybe another newsgroup would be better suited for you.
>
> Dan - why do you keep feeding the trolls?

Meh.. it's funny how much he bitches about it.

--
Dan

>
>Too bad for you. All I've heard from you in "farmed salmon bad",
100% truth-why does that discomfit you so?


> and nothing partaining to sushi.
Pay more attention grandad.

Sam Salmon wrote:

>>Too bad for you. All I've heard from you in "farmed salmon bad",
>>
> 100% truth-why does that discomfit you so?


Yes, and who killed JFK?

>>and nothing partaining to sushi.
>>
> Pay more attention grandad.

Well, you finally posted something sushi related.
It took you long enough, son.

--
Dan

In article >,
Sam Salmon > wrote:
}
} >
} >Too bad for you. All I've heard from you in "farmed salmon bad",
} 100% truth-why does that discomfit you so?

Well no; it's 100% *your opinion*, nothing more. We've all been through
this before.

The reason you don't have many friends around here is not because you
are providing us with some Grand Truth We Are Afraid To Face. It's
because you act like a zealot, constantly harping on one particular
agenda, acting like your opinion is objective fact (see above), and
rarely if ever discussing sushi.

peace,

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"Wee Willy" > wrote in message
news:cc%bc.25357$Ig.2320@pd7tw2no...
> Spring salmon with white flesh are not albinos, plain and simple. Albinos
> have no pigment in their skin whereas a White spring looks just like any
> other Spring except it has white flesh. An albino salmon would have white
> or pinkish skin as does an albino rhino, human, fish or snake. Hundreds of
> thousands if not millions of Pacific Spring Salmon with white flesh are
> caught each year off the coast of B.C., Alaska and the west coastal U.S.
> States and they are not albinos. The term "albino salmon" is strictly a
> marketing term and is in fact a misnomer to describe these fish. I
> suspect
> there is such a thing as a true albino salmon but they would be quite rare
> as albinism is in other species.
>

Word from A.S.M.I. is that somewhere between 1 in 7 to 1 in 10 commercially
caught salmon in Alaska are some form of white meat ranging from fully white
to predominantly pink with white streaks or splotches.

2 cents.

> "What is Albinism?
> The word "albinism" refers to a group of inherited conditions. People with
> albinism have little or no pigment in the eyes, skin, and hair (or in some
> cases in the eyes alone). They have inherited from their parents an
> altered
> copy of a genes that does not work correctly. The altered gene does not
> allow the body to make the usual amounts of a pigment called melanin. "
>
> http://www.cbc.umn.edu/iac/facts.htm#hps
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "D. Lutjen" > wrote in message
> news
>>
>> "HAEMUL" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > x-no-archive: yes
>> >
>> > >>From: Sam Salmon
>> > >>
>> > >>In both the Chilliwack and Harrison rivers systems White Springs are
>> > >>more common than Red during Fall runs-I know I fish them both.
>> > >>There is no such thing as a 'Albino' Salmon only someone who had
>> > >>never
>> > >>Sportfished in all his short/miserable/indoorsy life would post
>> > >>something as stupid as that.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >"albino salmon" googled with got me 42 returns.
>> > >
>> > >Now what's stupid? Or in your case, who?
>> >
>> >
>> > >Idiots!
>> > >LMAO!!!
>> > >Try and catch a fish and see how much help you get from your pal
>> > >Google.
>> > >Do a search on White Spring unless you're afraid of the truth.
>> >
>> > >Incidentally-I know the agency that came up with the ridiculous name
>> > >'Ivory' Salmon-they're right here in Vancouver.I'll be seeing on of
>> > >the principals for lunch next week so I'll tell her that some dumb
>> > >yanquis swallowed that line her employees cooked up years ago.
>> >
>> > >Have an Indoorsy Day!
>> >
>> >
>> > You missed the point. I was talking about existence of the term "albino
>> > salmon", period. Not white spring, nor ivory. It doesn't change the
>> > fact
>> there
>> > are albino salmons and called so in the U. S.
>> >
>> > "swallow that line?" If you can read, I never mentioned your cooked
>> > up
>> names
>> > in my original post. Contort the story anyway you want for your
>> > delight.
>>
>> Net dweebs have been around for eons . . . contorting what others say and
>> injecting characterizations that never existed are par for the course.
>> Speaking of par for the course, it's great weather for golf this weekend
> in
>> Portland.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

"Wee Willy" > wrote in message
news:cc%bc.25357$Ig.2320@pd7tw2no...
> Spring salmon with white flesh are not albinos, plain and simple. Albinos
> have no pigment in their skin whereas a White spring looks just like any
> other Spring except it has white flesh. An albino salmon would have white
> or pinkish skin as does an albino rhino, human, fish or snake. Hundreds of
> thousands if not millions of Pacific Spring Salmon with white flesh are
> caught each year off the coast of B.C., Alaska and the west coastal U.S.
> States and they are not albinos. The term "albino salmon" is strictly a
> marketing term and is in fact a misnomer to describe these fish. I
> suspect
> there is such a thing as a true albino salmon but they would be quite rare
> as albinism is in other species.
>

Word from A.S.M.I. is that somewhere between 1 in 7 to 1 in 10 commercially
caught salmon in Alaska are some form of white meat ranging from fully white
to predominantly pink with white streaks or splotches.

2 cents.

> "What is Albinism?
> The word "albinism" refers to a group of inherited conditions. People with
> albinism have little or no pigment in the eyes, skin, and hair (or in some
> cases in the eyes alone). They have inherited from their parents an
> altered
> copy of a genes that does not work correctly. The altered gene does not
> allow the body to make the usual amounts of a pigment called melanin. "
>
> http://www.cbc.umn.edu/iac/facts.htm#hps
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "D. Lutjen" > wrote in message
> news
>>
>> "HAEMUL" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > x-no-archive: yes
>> >
>> > >>From: Sam Salmon
>> > >>
>> > >>In both the Chilliwack and Harrison rivers systems White Springs are
>> > >>more common than Red during Fall runs-I know I fish them both.
>> > >>There is no such thing as a 'Albino' Salmon only someone who had
>> > >>never
>> > >>Sportfished in all his short/miserable/indoorsy life would post
>> > >>something as stupid as that.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >"albino salmon" googled with got me 42 returns.
>> > >
>> > >Now what's stupid? Or in your case, who?
>> >
>> >
>> > >Idiots!
>> > >LMAO!!!
>> > >Try and catch a fish and see how much help you get from your pal
>> > >Google.
>> > >Do a search on White Spring unless you're afraid of the truth.
>> >
>> > >Incidentally-I know the agency that came up with the ridiculous name
>> > >'Ivory' Salmon-they're right here in Vancouver.I'll be seeing on of
>> > >the principals for lunch next week so I'll tell her that some dumb
>> > >yanquis swallowed that line her employees cooked up years ago.
>> >
>> > >Have an Indoorsy Day!
>> >
>> >
>> > You missed the point. I was talking about existence of the term "albino
>> > salmon", period. Not white spring, nor ivory. It doesn't change the
>> > fact
>> there
>> > are albino salmons and called so in the U. S.
>> >
>> > "swallow that line?" If you can read, I never mentioned your cooked
>> > up
>> names
>> > in my original post. Contort the story anyway you want for your
>> > delight.
>>
>> Net dweebs have been around for eons . . . contorting what others say and
>> injecting characterizations that never existed are par for the course.
>> Speaking of par for the course, it's great weather for golf this weekend
> in
>> Portland.
>> >
>>
>>
>
>