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Hey,
I've taken to drinking all my reds and many of my lesser greens from little Turkish tulip shaped tea glasses. They hold perhaps a bit less than 3 ounces, and are perfectly formed for hand and mouth. No more mugs for me. Brew in gaiwan, drink from Turkish cup. These instructions come from God whose attitudes toward culture mixing are less emotional -- dare I say vitriolic? -- than ours. BTW, at $0.75 each, you cannot go wrong. You could even break a couple without suffering loss of sleep. Michael |
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![]() Michael Plant wrote: > Hey, > > I've taken to drinking all my reds and many of my > lesser greens from little Turkish tulip shaped tea > glasses. They hold perhaps a bit less than 3 ounces, > and are perfectly formed for hand and mouth. No > more mugs for me. Brew in gaiwan, drink from > Turkish cup. These instructions come from God > whose attitudes toward culture mixing are less > emotional -- dare I say vitriolic? -- than ours. > BTW, at $0.75 each, you cannot go wrong. You > could even break a couple without suffering loss > of sleep. > > Michael $.75? online? where? *excited* |
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![]() Michael Plant wrote: > Not on line, in an Arab grocery story under a mile > from my house. They sell 'em in six packs. > Michael > > I think its funny how most people's most often used and prized possessions are the cheapest and most basic. I must have 10 sets of 4 smaller tea cups, some very old and expensive, some yixing, some yixing with white porcelain interiors, some celadon, some of almost every type... and what do I use? Small 3-4oz. 4 for a dollar thicker white Chinese teacups with a cheapy blue bamboo pattern on the outside that were given to me because they didn't sell at a yardsale of a neighbors but had never been used. They are the perfect weight, hold exactly the amount that my gaiwans produce, and feel good. It's actually a drag when for some reason I have to use the "nice" ones. I've seen those at the middle eastern market near my work along with all their metal tea pariphernalia which makes me cringe. - Dominic P.S. I shake my fist at you for living so near so much culture and readily accessible inexpensive vendors... as I sit here in Pittsburgh, the home of hot dogs, white bread, chipped ham samiches, Iron City beer, and unfortunately football. |
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So you finally got them! I was so angry at myself that I forgot to bring you
a couple as I promised last time in February. I am glad you like 'em. I always drink my black from armuddy. Try to put there 2-3 very fine shawings of lemon skin cut into long very thin slivers. Sasha. "Michael Plant" > wrote in message ... > Hey, > > I've taken to drinking all my reds and many of my > lesser greens from little Turkish tulip shaped tea > glasses. They hold perhaps a bit less than 3 ounces, > and are perfectly formed for hand and mouth. No > more mugs for me. Brew in gaiwan, drink from > Turkish cup. These instructions come from God > whose attitudes toward culture mixing are less > emotional -- dare I say vitriolic? -- than ours. > BTW, at $0.75 each, you cannot go wrong. You > could even break a couple without suffering loss > of sleep. > > Michael > > |
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![]() Space Cowboy wrote: > I live less than 10 miles from a Mosque with it's retail across the > street. I just bought a six pack of tiny Turkish glass cups and glass > saucers for $12. While not tulip shape they do have the little half > heart shape piece of glass to hold by thumb and forefinger. I was > thinking of Dominic but I got the last one for myself. Sorry. I also > found the perfect little $6 pot for my tea blossoms. Also the last one > unfortunately. > > Jim Go on, rub it in ![]() worries. I'll just go back to my Miracle Whip, Chipped Ham sammich on Wonderbread and swill some Iron City. (speaking of which I'm guessing "chipped ham" is a regional thing, or do any of you know what it is?) Yinz, reddup, dahn-erh, gumband. (translated: you all, clean up, down there, and rubber band) I'd kill for even a glimpse of culture around this city, but most likely it would be shunned, made fun of and then firebombed. Gotta love the 'burgh. I mean our "cultural district" has a 7-11 and a Chicago-style hot dog shop... what am I complaining about?!? - Me |
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There are roughly two shape "types" - with more pronounced waist and less
pronounced one. Both can be found he http://www.tulumba.com/icy_srch.asp?...x=&s=tea+glass I prefer the first type and no rings (14.99) here but the 19.99 from Aida are also nice. Traditional saucers are NOT matching glass type - that is an attempt to satisfy euro-american "all-matching" concept. But they do sell the traditional saucers, which I very much recommend if you do need them (I do not): http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=HO248890TY655 The white light being reflected from the saucers beams up through the tea glass and makes for very attractive color display. Unfortunately I was not able to find crystal ones that I like best and use at home all the time. The light in these crystal cut armuddy and truly show the depth and shades of tea color and it looks gorgeous. Sasha. "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message oups.com... >I live less than 10 miles from a Mosque with it's retail across the > street. I just bought a six pack of tiny Turkish glass cups and glass > saucers for $12. While not tulip shape they do have the little half > heart shape piece of glass to hold by thumb and forefinger. I was > thinking of Dominic but I got the last one for myself. Sorry. I also > found the perfect little $6 pot for my tea blossoms. Also the last one > unfortunately. > > Jim > > PS I think I told the story about driving past the Mosque during > services and wondering about all the cabs till the revelation woke me > up in the middle of night a couple of days later. > > Michael Plant wrote: >> 9/21/06 >> >> >> > >> > Michael Plant wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> >> >> I've taken to drinking all my reds and many of my >> >> lesser greens from little Turkish tulip shaped tea >> >> glasses. They hold perhaps a bit less than 3 ounces, >> >> and are perfectly formed for hand and mouth. No >> >> more mugs for me. Brew in gaiwan, drink from >> >> Turkish cup. These instructions come from God >> >> whose attitudes toward culture mixing are less >> >> emotional -- dare I say vitriolic? -- than ours. >> >> BTW, at $0.75 each, you cannot go wrong. You >> >> could even break a couple without suffering loss >> >> of sleep. >> >> >> >> Michael >> > >> > $.75? online? where? *excited* >> >> Not on line, in an Arab grocery story under a mile >> from my house. They sell 'em in six packs. >> Michael > |
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Thanks Sasha. Mine looks like the smaller Çay ve. Except the
'handle' is one solid piece of glass which is same semi heart shape but just half length of the cup. Not much to grasp but is scored for a grip. Definitely not crystal. I wondered why they sold the ornate saucers seperately from the other teaware in the store. I have crystal beer glasses I wished I could find in tea cups. They have a beautiful chime and magnify the color of the brew. Jim Alex Chaihorsky wrote: > There are roughly two shape "types" - with more pronounced waist and less > pronounced one. > Both can be found he > http://www.tulumba.com/icy_srch.asp?...x=&s=tea+glass > > I prefer the first type and no rings (14.99) here but the 19.99 from Aida > are also nice. > Traditional saucers are NOT matching glass type - that is an attempt to > satisfy euro-american "all-matching" concept. > But they do sell the traditional saucers, which I very much recommend if you > do need them (I do not): > http://www.tulumba.com/storeItem.asp?ic=HO248890TY655 > > The white light being reflected from the saucers beams up through the tea > glass and makes for very attractive color display. > Unfortunately I was not able to find crystal ones that I like best and use > at home all the time. The light in these crystal cut armuddy and truly show > the depth and shades of tea color and it looks gorgeous. > > Sasha. > > > "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message > oups.com... ....I delete me... |
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....and I thought we were the first !!! ;-)
Yes, we tend to drink all of our tea (again brewed in the gaiwan) from the same vessels - except ours were from Target @ $A3 each. As you commented, a good fit for both hand and mouth and I also think the tea stays hotter for a little longer (but I haven't proven this scientifically - not going to either !). Cheers Mal Oz "Michael Plant" > wrote in message ... > Hey, > > I've taken to drinking all my reds and many of my > lesser greens from little Turkish tulip shaped tea > glasses. They hold perhaps a bit less than 3 ounces, > and are perfectly formed for hand and mouth. No > more mugs for me. Brew in gaiwan, drink from > Turkish cup. These instructions come from God > whose attitudes toward culture mixing are less > emotional -- dare I say vitriolic? -- than ours. > BTW, at $0.75 each, you cannot go wrong. You > could even break a couple without suffering loss > of sleep. > > Michael > > |
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In a universal quest for tea and thirst for knowledge - or vice versa -
note that the coloquial Turkish name for the traditional tea glass is "ince beli" meaning slender waist. Standing on a traditional shiny metal saucer it shows off the color of Turkish tea very well - a color that they say should ideally be that of rabbit's blood though I have not personally made the comparison. Nigel at Teacraft On Oct 6, 11:57 am, "Draconus" > wrote: > ...and I thought we were the first !!! ;-) > > Yes, we tend to drink all of our tea (again brewed in the gaiwan) from the > same vessels - except ours were from Target @ $A3 each. As you commented, a > good fit for both hand and mouth and I also think the tea stays hotter for a > little longer (but I haven't proven this scientifically - not going to > either !). > > Cheers > Mal > Oz > > "Michael Plant" > wrote in ... > > > > > Hey, > > > I've taken to drinking all my reds and many of my > > lesser greens from little Turkish tulip shaped tea > > glasses. They hold perhaps a bit less than 3 ounces, > > and are perfectly formed for hand and mouth. No > > more mugs for me. Brew in gaiwan, drink from > > Turkish cup. These instructions come from God > > whose attitudes toward culture mixing are less > > emotional -- dare I say vitriolic? -- than ours. > > BTW, at $0.75 each, you cannot go wrong. You > > could even break a couple without suffering loss > > of sleep. > > > Michael- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
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Another Bing Bang tea echo. You still in Georgia?
Jim Nigel wrote: > In a universal quest for tea and thirst for knowledge - or vice versa - > note that the coloquial Turkish name for the traditional tea glass is > "ince beli" meaning slender waist. Standing on a traditional shiny > metal saucer it shows off the color of Turkish tea very well - a color > that they say should ideally be that of rabbit's blood though I have > not personally made the comparison. > > Nigel at Teacraft |
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No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea
(www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from planting tea in Hawaii! Nigel at Teacraft On Oct 11, 2:23 pm, "Space Cowboy" > wrote: > Another Bing Bang tea echo. You still in Georgia? > > Jim > > > > Nigel wrote: > > In a universal quest for tea and thirst for knowledge - or vice versa - > > note that the coloquial Turkish name for the traditional tea glass is > > "ince beli" meaning slender waist. Standing on a traditional shiny > > metal saucer it shows off the color of Turkish tea very well - a color > > that they say should ideally be that of rabbit's blood though I have > > not personally made the comparison. > > > Nigel at Teacraft- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
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> In a universal quest for tea and thirst for knowledge - or vice versa - > note that the coloquial Turkish name for the traditional tea glass is > "ince beli" meaning slender waist. Standing on a traditional shiny > metal saucer it shows off the color of Turkish tea very well - a color > that they say should ideally be that of rabbit's blood though I have > not personally made the comparison. Hi Nigel, An appropriate name for the glasses. They appear in six packs at our local Arab grocers -- that is, in our local Arab neighborhood -- for under a dollar each glass. I use them as a receiving vessel -- sharing vessel, if you will -- since they are the perfect size, and with a little practice, do not spill a drop. I also use them for red teas of all sorts since they are between the size of a traditional western cup and a Chinese style Gung-fu cup. Delightful to hold in the hand. I should say here that those who've watched me pour and slosh tea all over the place trying to fill those little gung-fu cups saw my opening act. It's all under control now. A little two or three ounce Gung Fu pot or gaiwan, a little Turkish ince beli, a couple little cups, and you're set. Personally, I love the opportunity to mess with styles, and the ince beli contributes greatly to my Gung Fu tea. I use "GF" loosely, I know, I know. BTW, no little silver saucers for me. Michael |
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![]() "Nigel" > wrote in message ups.com... > No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea > (www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from > Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from > planting tea in Hawaii! Here on the Big Island, perchance? --Rich |
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We stray from Turkish Tea Glasses - but no, Rich, on Kauai Island. A
2,000 acre land subdivision development project which keeps 80% of the land for agriculture - tea, taro and cacao - see http://www.kealanani.com/ for some background - also Honolulu Advertiser last Sunday. My company advises on the tea side and with HI labor at USD 12 per hour we have some specialty tea streamlining to do to compete with India/Africa production at a dollar per day. Nigel at Teacraft Rich wrote: > "Nigel" > wrote in message > ups.com... > > No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea > > (www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from > > Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from > > planting tea in Hawaii! > > Here on the Big Island, perchance? > > --Rich |
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![]() On Oct 12, 9:18 pm, "Rich" > wrote: > "Nigel" > wrote in oglegroups.com... > > > No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea > > (www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from > > Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from > > planting tea in Hawaii!Here on the Big Island, perchance? > > --Rich I am dying to know more about this white tea from africa. I have heard about it and even know a place to buy it online. Anyone who has had this tell me about it. Compare it to CHinese. Michael P. You love whites have you heard of these or have you tasted them????, Anxious in Texas, Jenn |
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> > > On Oct 12, 9:18 pm, "Rich" > wrote: >> "Nigel" > wrote in >> oglegroups.com... >> >>> No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea >>> (www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from >>> Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from >>> planting tea in Hawaii!Here on the Big Island, perchance? >> >> --Rich > I am dying to know more about this white tea from africa. I have heard > about it and even know a place to buy it online. Anyone who has had > this tell me about it. Compare it to CHinese. Michael P. You love > whites have you heard of these or have you tasted them????, > Anxious in Texas, Hi Jenn, I haven't tried African white teas. I've had fine experiences with Nigel's black teas from Kenya, Georgia, and Viet Nam. I have tasted various white teas from Sri Lanka and India, but they pall/pale in comparison to their Chinese elder brothers. In fact, they are unlikeable. Others might well differ. One of the most beautiful leaf desplays en glass was one of those unlikeable Ceylons. I'd count to three before buying another white tea from a strange and foreign land. Michael |
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Michael,
Believe me these Malawi White Teas will not disappint if you taste them without preconceived notions. Palest apricot in the liquor colour, sweet and smooth on the tongue, sometimes a hint of fruit and often a rose like aroma in the liquor. And the infusion, after the liquor is decanted, particularly if trapped and sniffed from under a gaiwan lid has definite flowery rosey aroma - which develops with multiple steepng. Some of the cultivars (we are trialling nearly a dozen) have cedar and wintergreen notes too. These colors and tastes and aromas you most certainly do not get with a Chinese White Tea - but they sure as hell intrigue me. Let me have your address off line and I will send you a sample. Nigel at Teacraft On Oct 23, 11:48 am, Michael Plant > wrote: > ups.com10/20/06 > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 12, 9:18 pm, "Rich" > wrote: > >> "Nigel" > wrote in > >> oglegroups.com... > > >>> No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea > >>> (www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from > >>> Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from > >>> planting tea in Hawaii!Here on the Big Island, perchance? > > >> --Rich > > I am dying to know more about this white tea from africa. I have heard > > about it and even know a place to buy it online. Anyone who has had > > this tell me about it. Compare it to CHinese. Michael P. You love > > whites have you heard of these or have you tasted them????, > > Anxious in Texas,Hi Jenn, > > I haven't tried African white teas. I've had fine experiences > with Nigel's black teas from Kenya, Georgia, and Viet Nam. > > I have tasted various white teas from Sri Lanka and India, but > they pall/pale in comparison to their Chinese elder brothers. In > fact, they are unlikeable. Others might well differ. One of > the most beautiful leaf desplays en glass was one of those > unlikeable Ceylons. I'd count to three before buying another > white tea from a strange and foreign land. > > Michael- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
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I don't understand why there aren't more white teas, less processing
equals more profit. Or is it just historical infrastructure where oxidation and fermentation survived longer sea voyages. You can say anything you want about white tea taste but it is more natural than any other. I'm still not sure if that taste is the same as plucking the plant and brewing fresh leaves in a pot. My secret to white tea is more leaf in a larger pot and longer brewing times. In a way white tea is the hardiest in the sense it doesn't give up its taste easily which doesn't translate to consumerism. The average consumer will see the Snapple commercial and wonder where is the taste? Jim Nigel wrote: > Michael, > > Believe me these Malawi White Teas will not disappint if you taste them > without preconceived notions. Palest apricot in the liquor colour, > sweet and smooth on the tongue, sometimes a hint of fruit and often a > rose like aroma in the liquor. And the infusion, after the liquor is > decanted, particularly if trapped and sniffed from under a gaiwan lid > has definite flowery rosey aroma - which develops with multiple > steepng. Some of the cultivars (we are trialling nearly a dozen) have > cedar and wintergreen notes too. These colors and tastes and aromas > you most certainly do not get with a Chinese White Tea - but they sure > as hell intrigue me. > > Let me have your address off line and I will send you a sample. > > Nigel at Teacraft > > On Oct 23, 11:48 am, Michael Plant > wrote: > > ups.com10/20/06 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 12, 9:18 pm, "Rich" > wrote: > > >> "Nigel" > wrote in > > >> oglegroups.com... > > > > >>> No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea > > >>> (www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from > > >>> Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from > > >>> planting tea in Hawaii!Here on the Big Island, perchance? > > > > >> --Rich > > > I am dying to know more about this white tea from africa. I have heard > > > about it and even know a place to buy it online. Anyone who has had > > > this tell me about it. Compare it to CHinese. Michael P. You love > > > whites have you heard of these or have you tasted them????, > > > Anxious in Texas,Hi Jenn, > > > > I haven't tried African white teas. I've had fine experiences > > with Nigel's black teas from Kenya, Georgia, and Viet Nam. > > > > I have tasted various white teas from Sri Lanka and India, but > > they pall/pale in comparison to their Chinese elder brothers. In > > fact, they are unlikeable. Others might well differ. One of > > the most beautiful leaf desplays en glass was one of those > > unlikeable Ceylons. I'd count to three before buying another > > white tea from a strange and foreign land. > > > > Michael- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
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"Space Cowboy" > writes:
> I don't understand why there aren't more white teas, less processing > equals more profit. Drying the leaves in the sun takes more time and space - though less fuel - than using artificial heat. It also depends on the climate and weather. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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![]() > > I haven't tried African white teas. I've had fine experiences > with Nigel's black teas from Kenya, Georgia, and Viet Nam. > > I have tasted various white teas from Sri Lanka and India, but > they pall/pale in comparison to their Chinese elder brothers. In > fact, they are unlikeable. Others might well differ. One of > the most beautiful leaf desplays en glass was one of those > unlikeable Ceylons. I'd count to three before buying another > white tea from a strange and foreign land. > > Michael- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Hi to you guys, Michael, Nigel... I have tried white teas from india but I really liked the chinese ones better, And I have tried african green and black. They were ok but a little bitter if I didnt drink them quickly. I have seen and drank beautiful tea displays too. Most of them were not tasty but a nice presentation nonetheless. White tea that I like all have become more tasty and you can even get more complexities from them on subsequent brewings and they can sit for a while wothout getting bitter. I drink alot of tea at home where it may have to sit inbetween housework, chatting, laundry, gardening etc...... Nigel, How do these african white teas hold up to time and how do you brew them to get this awesome taste you speak of. I am always anxious to hear everyones opinion. Has anyone else tried them too? Where may I purchase a sample size of this? NIgel do you vend? Well I just drink and drink... Jenn enjoying some cold umm... room temp rougui... yum I get distracted by star trek, the mail man and my computer to drink all hot stuff. |
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Hi Jenn
You are very right about the multiple steeping capabilities of good white teas and their forgiving nature when abused. And since you ask, these African Whites are exclusively available at my daughter's Nothing But Tea website: http://www.nbtea.co.uk/acatalog/Wildcrafted_Teas.html - well exclusive until some of our tea distributors start selling them for us. You will find six hand made Malawi Whites there - needles and peony, and I am continuing experimentation in Malawi so many more types and tastes are on their way. You will also find our Georgian hand made teas on that page - soon to be expanded to include some additional new season Georgian offerings. I (to my shame) had always treated the Georgian hand made teas as black teas (boiling water, one steep) until Carol Sims of Tea Embassy in Austin TX who is a great enthusiast for them told me she steeps them up to four times with slightly cooler water (190 deg F). Nigel at Teacraft On Oct 23, 8:21 pm, "Jenn" > wrote: > > I haven't tried African white teas. I've had fine experiences > > with Nigel's black teas from Kenya, Georgia, and Viet Nam. > > > I have tasted various white teas from Sri Lanka and India, but > > they pall/pale in comparison to their Chinese elder brothers. In > > fact, they are unlikeable. Others might well differ. One of > > the most beautiful leaf desplays en glass was one of those > > unlikeable Ceylons. I'd count to three before buying another > > white tea from a strange and foreign land. > > > Michael- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -Hi to you guys, > Michael, Nigel... > I have tried white teas from india but I really liked the chinese ones > better, And I have tried african green and black. They were ok but a > little bitter if I didnt drink them quickly. I have seen and drank > beautiful tea displays too. Most of them were not tasty but a nice > presentation nonetheless. White tea that I like all have become more > tasty and you can even get more complexities from them on subsequent > brewings and they can sit for a while wothout getting bitter. I drink > alot of tea at home where it may have to sit inbetween housework, > chatting, laundry, gardening etc...... Nigel, How do these african > white teas hold up to time and how do you brew them to get this awesome > taste you speak of. I am always anxious to hear everyones opinion. Has > anyone else tried them too? Where may I purchase a sample size of this? > NIgel do you vend? Well I just drink and drink... > Jenn > enjoying some cold umm... room temp rougui... yum I get distracted by > star trek, the mail man and my computer to drink all hot stuff. |
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Hi,
I am working as tea exporter in a Big tea company in Vietnam. Can you give me some email addr of any tea company in your country or some where else who are interested in importing ll teas grade in bulk.Pls help me. B/Rgrds Natea Jenn viết: > On Oct 12, 9:18 pm, "Rich" > wrote: > > "Nigel" > wrote in oglegroups.com... > > > > > No, Jim, not Georgia now though we still sell their handmade tea > > > (www.nbtea.co.uk) and have recently developed a curious White Tea from > > > Darkest Africa (hand made in Malawi) and just back yesterday from > > > planting tea in Hawaii!Here on the Big Island, perchance? > > > > --Rich > I am dying to know more about this white tea from africa. I have heard > about it and even know a place to buy it online. Anyone who has had > this tell me about it. Compare it to CHinese. Michael P. You love > whites have you heard of these or have you tasted them????, > Anxious in Texas, > Jenn |
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