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Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this
correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1'). However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea Import & Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004 Can someone please clarify? -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do |
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On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" > wrote:
> Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this > correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1'). > > However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea Import & > Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004 > > Can someone please clarify? > > -- > Cheers > Mal > Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do Which part of the 90s? "...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan. These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses. The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea Regions & the factories, Chapter 7. The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory. I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory. Danny |
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![]() > wrote in message s.com... > On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >> Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this >> correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1'). >> >> However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea >> Import & >> Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004 >> >> Can someone please clarify? >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Mal >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do > > Which part of the 90s? > > "...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming > Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan. > These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own > production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was > not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea > Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small > factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea > Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory > was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and > its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses. > The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do > with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea > Regions & the factories, Chapter 7. > > The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an > idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory. > > I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated > with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure > that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory. > > Danny > Danny, The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does that help anybody identify where this tea originated ? -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do > |
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There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that
identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something about Puer it hasn't been said before. Jim On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: > > wrote in message > > s.com... > > > > > On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: > >> Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this > >> correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1'). > > >> However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea > >> Import & > >> Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004 > > >> Can someone please clarify? > > >> -- > >> Cheers > >> Mal > >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do > > > Which part of the 90s? > > > "...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming > > Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan. > > These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own > > production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was > > not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea > > Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small > > factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea > > Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory > > was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and > > its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses. > > The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do > > with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea > > Regions & the factories, Chapter 7. > > > The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an > > idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory. > > > I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated > > with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure > > that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory. > > > Danny > > Danny, > The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does > that help anybody identify where this tea originated ? > > -- > Cheers > Mal > Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do |
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Jim,
There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog. -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message oups.com... > There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that > identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous > CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the > Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something > about Puer it hasn't been said before. > > Jim > > On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >> > wrote in message >> >> s.com... >> >> >> >> > On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >> >> Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this >> >> correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code '1'). >> >> >> However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea >> >> Import & >> >> Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004 >> >> >> Can someone please clarify? >> >> >> -- >> >> Cheers >> >> Mal >> >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do >> >> > Which part of the 90s? >> >> > "...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming >> > Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan. >> > These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own >> > production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was >> > not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea >> > Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small >> > factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea >> > Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory >> > was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and >> > its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses. >> > The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do >> > with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea >> > Regions & the factories, Chapter 7. >> >> > The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an >> > idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory. >> >> > I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated >> > with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure >> > that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory. >> >> > Danny >> >> Danny, >> The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does >> that help anybody identify where this tea originated ? >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Mal >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do > > |
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Don't hold me too it. I'm a little gun shy about not being correct
about everything I say. Since we're talking about CNNP it might just be the red Zhong green Cha seal which simply means a tea from China. I also think those two colors are recent years so from the nineties I would expect them to be different. If there are characters it should say the factory. I seem to remember I bought some CNNP by the QiZi tong and one of the bings had a slip saying Xiaguan. I think the rest were the ZhongCha red\green seal. Or I'm thinking about bings in general which indicate the factory information on the embedded slip. Jim PS Everytime I drink tea and do taxes I always wonder what would make us throw a tea party today. On Apr 5, 8:15 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: > Jim, > There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of > this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog. > > -- > Cheers > Mal > Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do"Space Cowboy" > wrote in message ....puer pigeon hole... |
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Hey, no law suit pending I can assure you ;-))
Anyway I might be able to de-cypher the nei fei myself using a few notes/book I have. Its not THAT important to find out precisely where the cake was made. Just curious mainly. I keep records of what I buy, when I buy it and from whom etc, any other info I can glean is simply a bonus. I scan the cake and print the image and some details on an A5 card and keep them all in a folder. Also helps me remember which tea is what ! Most of the vendors I buy tea from specify who made the tea or where it came from. Just with this one I lucked out - so far. -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message oups.com... > Don't hold me too it. I'm a little gun shy about not being correct > about everything I say. Since we're talking about CNNP it might just > be the red Zhong green Cha seal which simply means a tea from China. > I also think those two colors are recent years so from the nineties I > would expect them to be different. If there are characters it should > say the factory. I seem to remember I bought some CNNP by the QiZi > tong and one of the bings had a slip saying Xiaguan. I think the rest > were the ZhongCha red\green seal. Or I'm thinking about bings in > general which indicate the factory information on the embedded slip. > > Jim > > PS Everytime I drink tea and do taxes I always wonder what would make > us throw a tea party today. > > On Apr 5, 8:15 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >> Jim, >> There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of >> this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog. >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Mal >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do"Space Cowboy" >> > wrote in message > ...puer pigeon hole... > > |
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Here the URL to the neifei image....
http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/data/4/2...06171 158.jpg Does this provide any more clues as to it's origin ? TIA -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do "Mal from Oz" > wrote in message ... > Jim, > There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of > this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog. > > -- > Cheers > Mal > Oz > http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do > "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message > oups.com... >> There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that >> identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous >> CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the >> Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something >> about Puer it hasn't been said before. >> >> Jim >> >> On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >>> > wrote in message >>> >>> s.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >>> >> Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this >>> >> correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code >>> >> '1'). >>> >>> >> However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea >>> >> Import & >>> >> Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004 >>> >>> >> Can someone please clarify? >>> >>> >> -- >>> >> Cheers >>> >> Mal >>> >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do >>> >>> > Which part of the 90s? >>> >>> > "...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming >>> > Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan. >>> > These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own >>> > production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was >>> > not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea >>> > Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small >>> > factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea >>> > Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory >>> > was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and >>> > its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses. >>> > The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do >>> > with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea >>> > Regions & the factories, Chapter 7. >>> >>> > The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an >>> > idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory. >>> >>> > I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated >>> > with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure >>> > that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory. >>> >>> > Danny >>> >>> Danny, >>> The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does >>> that help anybody identify where this tea originated ? >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers >>> Mal >>> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do >> >> > > > > |
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See, I'm learning !
http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do "Mal from Oz" > wrote in message ... > Jim, > There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of > this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog. > > -- > Cheers > Mal > Oz > http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do > "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message > oups.com... >> There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that >> identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous >> CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the >> Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something >> about Puer it hasn't been said before. >> >> Jim >> >> On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >>> > wrote in message >>> >>> s.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >>> >> Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read this >>> >> correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code >>> >> '1'). >>> >>> >> However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea >>> >> Import & >>> >> Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to 2004 >>> >>> >> Can someone please clarify? >>> >>> >> -- >>> >> Cheers >>> >> Mal >>> >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do >>> >>> > Which part of the 90s? >>> >>> > "...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming >>> > Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan. >>> > These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own >>> > production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was >>> > not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea >>> > Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small >>> > factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea >>> > Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory >>> > was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and >>> > its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses. >>> > The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do >>> > with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea >>> > Regions & the factories, Chapter 7. >>> >>> > The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an >>> > idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory. >>> >>> > I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more associated >>> > with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure >>> > that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory. >>> >>> > Danny >>> >>> Danny, >>> The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So does >>> that help anybody identify where this tea originated ? >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers >>> Mal >>> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do >> >> > > > > |
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Anybody famliar with a factory called 'Lin Pao Cha' or something similarly
sounding ? Possibly makes or made Tou Cha ? -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do "Mal from Oz" > wrote in message ... > See, I'm learning ! > > http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew > > -- > Cheers > Mal > Oz > http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do > "Mal from Oz" > wrote in message > ... >> Jim, >> There is - it's semi-entombed in tea at the moment. Plan to brew some of >> this on the weekend - I'll try to pry it free and post on my blog. >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Mal >> Oz >> http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do >> "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message >> oups.com... >>> There should a little slip of paper embedded in the Bing that >>> identifies the factory. That is my experience with the ubiquitous >>> CNNP Zhongcha wrapper. There is some new CNNP on the shelves but the >>> Bings are $10. I'm not even curious. Everytime Danny says something >>> about Puer it hasn't been said before. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Apr 5, 3:48 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >>>> > wrote in message >>>> >>>> s.com... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > On Apr 4, 10:52 pm, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >>>> >> Still new to this... 90's ZhongCha Yellow Stamp 7571, if I read >>>> >> this >>>> >> correctly the tea came from the Kunming factory (ie factory code >>>> >> '1'). >>>> >>>> >> However another source says that the Zhongcha brand is owned by Tea >>>> >> Import & >>>> >> Export Co since 2004. But was registered to Menghai from 1951 to >>>> >> 2004 >>>> >>>> >> Can someone please clarify? >>>> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> Cheers >>>> >> Mal >>>> >> Ozhttp://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do >>>> >>>> > Which part of the 90s? >>>> >>>> > "...as Kunming was not a main tea producing region in Yunnan, Kunming >>>> > Tea Factory had to purchase its maocha from other regions in Yunnan. >>>> > These days there are many small factories in Yunnan have their own >>>> > production machines to produced their own pu'er teas, as such it was >>>> > not necessary any longer for the maocha to be sent to Kunming Tea >>>> > Factory for cake-pressing - in fact there are privately owned small >>>> > factories in Kunming which are buying maocha from Kunming Tea >>>> > Factory. With this and other economic reasons, Kunming Tea Factory >>>> > was rented out from 1994 onwards to other small factories' use, and >>>> > its former employees left to begin their own little tea businesses. >>>> > The factory still stands today in Kunming, but it has nothing to do >>>> > with tea production anymore..." Mr Di Jianxing, Introduction to Tea >>>> > Regions & the factories, Chapter 7. >>>> >>>> > The above is a rough translation of the article, but it gives you an >>>> > idea what happened to Kunming Tea Factory. >>>> >>>> > I have also always thought the coloured labels a thing more >>>> > associated >>>> > with Menghai Tea Factory and between the periods, the CNNP, not sure >>>> > that it has anything to do with Kunming Tea Factory >>> >>>> > Danny >>>> >>>> Danny, >>>> The only clue I have is 'late' 1990's - so I guess '97 thu '99. So >>>> does >>>> that help anybody identify where this tea originated ? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chee |
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The first line:
China National Native Produce Animal By-Products Import Export Corporation The second line: Yunnan Tea Branch That's what it says on one of my CNNP neifei. So it looks like you don't get the factory name in this case. I do get the Xiaguan factory name on my CNNP neifei with the same info above on the wrapper. I also remember the golden cha character as being representative of 90's puer from what I remember being sold on TaoBao. Jim On Apr 6, 1:24 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: > See, I'm learning ! > > http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew > > -- > Cheers > Mal |
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Thanks for the xlation, looks like this one needs to go down as 'somewhere
in Yunnan' ;-)) -- Cheers Mal Oz http://maloz.bigblog.com.au/index.do "Space Cowboy" > wrote in message oups.com... > The first line: > China National Native Produce Animal By-Products Import Export > Corporation > > The second line: > Yunnan Tea Branch > > That's what it says on one of my CNNP neifei. So it looks like you > don't get the factory name in this case. I do get the Xiaguan factory > name on my CNNP neifei with the same info above on the wrapper. I > also remember the golden cha character as being representative of 90's > puer from what I remember being sold on TaoBao. > > Jim > > > On Apr 6, 1:24 am, "Mal from Oz" > wrote: >> See, I'm learning ! >> >> http://tinyurl.com/ytw8ew >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Mal > > |
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