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As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
hours from a glass-lined thermos.

Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
from this information?
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Prof Wonmug > writes:

> As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
> noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
> These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
> hours from a glass-lined thermos.
>
> Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
> from this information?


Uh, maybe. Care to tell us your results?

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On Nov 5, 5:40*pm, Lewis Perin > wrote:
> Prof Wonmug > writes:
> > As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
> > noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
> > These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
> > hours from a glass-lined thermos.

>
> > Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
> > from this information?

>
> Uh, maybe. *Care to tell us your results?
>
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I'm with Lew, you gotta give up something to get something.

I have heard a phrase from a tea drinking friend I highly regard that
roughly translates to "the leaves can smell bad after brewing as long
as the tea tastes great" and it is in reference to skilled brewing.
Extracting only the good qualities and flavors from the leaf and
leaving behind the "bad".

- Dominic
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On 05 Nov 2009 17:40:19 -0500, Lewis Perin > wrote:

>Prof Wonmug > writes:
>
>> As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
>> noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
>> These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
>> hours from a glass-lined thermos.
>>
>> Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
>> from this information?

>
>Uh, maybe. Care to tell us your results?


I was hoping to get comments and opinions that were not influenced by
my "findings". A good researcher never contaminates the data
collection process by interjecting his own biases.

I would, of course, disclose any "results" for the benefit of those
who find such endeavors useful and as target practice for others. ;-)
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Prof Wonmug > writes:

> On 05 Nov 2009 17:40:19 -0500, Lewis Perin > wrote:
>
> >Prof Wonmug > writes:
> >
> >> As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
> >> noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
> >> These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
> >> hours from a glass-lined thermos.
> >>
> >> Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
> >> from this information?

> >
> >Uh, maybe. Care to tell us your results?

>
> I was hoping to get comments and opinions that were not influenced by
> my "findings". A good researcher never contaminates the data
> collection process by interjecting his own biases.


I asked for results, not biases.

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On 06 Nov 2009 12:18:37 -0500, Lewis Perin > wrote:

>Prof Wonmug > writes:
>
>> On 05 Nov 2009 17:40:19 -0500, Lewis Perin > wrote:
>>
>> >Prof Wonmug > writes:
>> >
>> >> As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
>> >> noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
>> >> These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
>> >> hours from a glass-lined thermos.
>> >>
>> >> Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
>> >> from this information?
>> >
>> >Uh, maybe. Care to tell us your results?

>>
>> I was hoping to get comments and opinions that were not influenced by
>> my "findings". A good researcher never contaminates the data
>> collection process by interjecting his own biases.

>
>I asked for results, not biases.


Isn't it the general opinion around here that tea is a completely
subjective experience? If so, my "results" would be subjective and
inherently biased. No?
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Prof Wonmug > writes:

> On 06 Nov 2009 12:18:37 -0500, Lewis Perin > wrote:
>
> >Prof Wonmug > writes:
> >
> >> On 05 Nov 2009 17:40:19 -0500, Lewis Perin > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Prof Wonmug > writes:
> >> >
> >> >> As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
> >> >> noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
> >> >> These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
> >> >> hours from a glass-lined thermos.
> >> >>
> >> >> Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
> >> >> from this information?
> >> >
> >> >Uh, maybe. Care to tell us your results?
> >>
> >> I was hoping to get comments and opinions that were not influenced by
> >> my "findings". A good researcher never contaminates the data
> >> collection process by interjecting his own biases.

> >
> >I asked for results, not biases.

>
> Isn't it the general opinion around here that tea is a completely
> subjective experience?


Completely? No.

> If so, my "results" would be subjective and inherently biased. No?


This reminds me of dorm room conversations from long ago. I seem to
remember that they bored me then, but I could be wrong about that:
subjectivity, you know...

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As a general rule the gongfu method is the only claim made by some
where subsequent cups are better. Im of the Engllish school where the
first cup is the best. Anything else is leftovers but I wouldnt say
better. Drinking from the same pot spread out over hours depends more
on biorythms than tastebuds. So name the tea and how you brewed it
that makes you think it tastes better.

Jim

On Nov 5, 2:51 pm, Prof Wonmug > wrote:
> As I continue testing various teas and brewing parameters, I have
> noticed that some teas get better after a few cups and some get worse.
> These are all from the same pot and usually consumed within a few
> hours from a glass-lined thermos.
>
> Can I conclude anything about the tea itself or the way I brewed it
> from this information?

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