Dear Tea lovers:

What is your top ten favorite tea? Mine a

1) Yunnan Imperial
2) Keemun Hao Ya A
3) Sichuan Black
4) Lapsang Souchong
5) Darjeeling
6) Assam & Bangladeshi CTC tea
7) Sencha
8) Hojicha
9) Dragon well (Lung Ching)
10) Fujian Ming Xiang Oolong

Thanks,

Ripon
(From Bangladesh)

11/13/03


> Dear Tea lovers:
>
> What is your top ten favorite tea? Mine a
>
> 1) Yunnan Imperial
> 2) Keemun Hao Ya A
> 3) Sichuan Black
> 4) Lapsang Souchong
> 5) Darjeeling
> 6) Assam & Bangladeshi CTC tea
> 7) Sencha
> 8) Hojicha
> 9) Dragon well (Lung Ching)
> 10) Fujian Ming Xiang Oolong
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ripon
> (From Bangladesh)

Ripon,

Mine are 1) Green Tea, 2) Oolong Tea, 3) Pu-erh Tea, 4) Yellow Tea, 5) White
Tea, and 6) Red Tea. Actually, to be serious, my favorite tea is usually the
one I'm drinking at the moment. (That goes for music too, in that case
"listening to," not "drinking,")

I'll give it some more thought and get back to you.

Best,
Michael

(Ripon) wrote in message . com>...
> Dear Tea lovers:
>
> What is your top ten favorite tea? Mine a
>
> 1) Yunnan Imperial
> 2) Keemun Hao Ya A
> 3) Sichuan Black
> 4) Lapsang Souchong
> 5) Darjeeling
> 6) Assam & Bangladeshi CTC tea
> 7) Sencha
> 8) Hojicha
> 9) Dragon well (Lung Ching)
> 10) Fujian Ming Xiang Oolong
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ripon
> (From Bangladesh)

1) Da Hong Pao Oolong (Red Robe)
2) An Xi Tie Guan Yin
3) Feng Huang Dan Cong
4) Dian Hong (Yunnan Black)
5) Tie Luo Han (Iron Monk)
6) Ying De Hong (GuangDong Black)
7) Shou Mei (Longevity White)
8) Shi Feng Long Jing
9) Gyokuro
10) Chang Hua Tie Guan Yin

(ChineseTea) wrote ...

> 6) Ying De Hong (GuangDong Black)


Hmm, where do you get your Guangdong Black? Had any recently?
As I've mentioned before, I'm not generally a fan of much of the tea
from the SE of China, but I have had some surprisingly refreshing
Guangdong blacks in the past (not for a while, and only in Guangzhou).

The Immoral Mr 11/13/03


> (ChineseTea) wrote ...
>
>> 6) Ying De Hong (GuangDong Black)
>
>
> Hmm, where do you get your Guangdong Black? Had any recently?
> As I've mentioned before, I'm not generally a fan of much of the tea
> from the SE of China, but I have had some surprisingly refreshing
> Guangdong blacks in the past (not for a while, and only in Guangzhou).

I've been dabbling around Guangxi greens, and find them for the most part
lack-luster, with the notable exception so far of of Lin Yun White Down,
presumably from Ling Yun County, Guangxi Province, and available through
several vendors including Special Tea. This tea has character. I like it.
(None of this is to say that the Guangxi greens I've been at are bad; just
nothing to rave about.

Please enlighten me regarding the Guangxi tea story, whatever that means.
(We can count Guangxi as SE China, can we not?)

Michael

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:23:23 -0600, Ripon wrote:

> Dear Tea lovers:
>
> What is your top ten favorite tea? Mine a
>
> 1) Yunnan Imperial
> 2) Keemun Hao Ya A
> 3) Sichuan Black
> 4) Lapsang Souchong
> 5) Darjeeling
> 6) Assam & Bangladeshi CTC tea
> 7) Sencha
> 8) Hojicha
> 9) Dragon well (Lung Ching)
> 10) Fujian Ming Xiang Oolong
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ripon
> (From Bangladesh)

In no particular order, various grades of Lung Ching, various grades of
Sencha, Gyokuro, Konacha, lightly oxidized Oolongs, various Keemuns,
cheap Assam, & SpecialTeas loose-leaf Pu-erh (particularly with heavy
or greasy food).

J

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:24:02 -0600, John wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:23:23 -0600, Ripon wrote:
>
>> Dear Tea lovers:
>>
>> What is your top ten favorite tea? Mine a
>>
>> 1) Yunnan Imperial
>> 2) Keemun Hao Ya A
>> 3) Sichuan Black
>> 4) Lapsang Souchong
>> 5) Darjeeling
>> 6) Assam & Bangladeshi CTC tea
>> 7) Sencha
>> 8) Hojicha
>> 9) Dragon well (Lung Ching)
>> 10) Fujian Ming Xiang Oolong
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ripon
>> (From Bangladesh)
>
> In no particular order, various grades of Lung Ching, various grades of
> Sencha, Gyokuro, Konacha, lightly oxidized Oolongs, various Keemuns,
> cheap Assam, & SpecialTeas loose-leaf Pu-erh (particularly with heavy or
> greasy food).

Forgot to add, Shincha (probably Number 1 if I'd made a list but it is a
sencha from what I understand).

J

.net11/14/03


> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:24:02 -0600, John wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:23:23 -0600, Ripon wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Tea lovers:
>>>
>>> What is your top ten favorite tea? Mine a
>>>
>>> 1) Yunnan Imperial
>>> 2) Keemun Hao Ya A
>>> 3) Sichuan Black
>>> 4) Lapsang Souchong
>>> 5) Darjeeling
>>> 6) Assam & Bangladeshi CTC tea
>>> 7) Sencha
>>> 8) Hojicha
>>> 9) Dragon well (Lung Ching)
>>> 10) Fujian Ming Xiang Oolong
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ripon
>>> (From Bangladesh)
>>
>> In no particular order, various grades of Lung Ching, various grades of
>> Sencha, Gyokuro, Konacha, lightly oxidized Oolongs, various Keemuns,
>> cheap Assam, & SpecialTeas loose-leaf Pu-erh (particularly with heavy or
>> greasy food).
>
> Forgot to add, Shincha (probably Number 1 if I'd made a list but it is a
> sencha from what I understand).


What exactly is this "Shincha"? I was browsing through Gray and Seddon's
site and saw mention of it. Very curious.

Michael

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:36:31 -0600, Michael Plant wrote:

<snip>

>>
>> Forgot to add, Shincha (probably Number 1 if I'd made a list but it is
>> a sencha from what I understand).
>
>
> What exactly is this "Shincha"? I was browsing through Gray and
> Seddon's site and saw mention of it. Very curious.

In my understanding, it is 'first flush' Sencha picked in early May.
I've seen reference that it is always picked on the eighty-eighth day
after the spring planting but I'm not sure if this is true or not.
Anyway, the flavor is light and very clean, a definite sensory delight.

> Michael

J

. net11/14/03


> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:36:31 -0600, Michael Plant wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>>>
>>> Forgot to add, Shincha (probably Number 1 if I'd made a list but it is
>>> a sencha from what I understand).
>>
>>
>> What exactly is this "Shincha"? I was browsing through Gray and
>> Seddon's site and saw mention of it. Very curious.
>
> In my understanding, it is 'first flush' Sencha picked in early May.
> I've seen reference that it is always picked on the eighty-eighth day
> after the spring planting but I'm not sure if this is true or not.
> Anyway, the flavor is light and very clean, a definite sensory delight.
>
>> Michael
>
> J

Thanks, John. I'm going to go for it at the first opportunity -- which I
suspect will be next spring.

Michael

Wow, only 10 favorites?

1. Qi Jing Bian Zhen
2. One of the melony Baozhongs
3. Luguanyin
4. Phoenix oolong (Fenghuang, etc.)
5. Fruity, not-too-astringent second flush Darjeeling
6. Tippy Yunnan black redolent of maple
7. Silver Needles Puerh bingcha
8. Dai bamboo Puerh
9. Uji Gyokuro
10. Yong Xi Huo Qing

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:09:44 -0600, Michael Plant wrote:

> . net11/14/03
>
>
>> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:36:31 -0600, Michael Plant wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>>> Forgot to add, Shincha (probably Number 1 if I'd made a list but it
>>>> is a sencha from what I understand).
>>>
>>>
>>> What exactly is this "Shincha"? I was browsing through Gray and
>>> Seddon's site and saw mention of it. Very curious.
>>
>> In my understanding, it is 'first flush' Sencha picked in early May.
>> I've seen reference that it is always picked on the eighty-eighth day
>> after the spring planting but I'm not sure if this is true or not.
>> Anyway, the flavor is light and very clean, a definite sensory delight.
>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> J
>
> Thanks, John. I'm going to go for it at the first opportunity -- which I
> suspect will be next spring.

Hope you like it, I know I did. On my first sip of it, I thought it was
the best green tea I'd ever tasted and I still do. It is a taste delight I
hoard all summer/early fall (usually my stash runs out early to mid-October).

> Michael

J

John wrote:
>
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:36:31 -0600, Michael Plant wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >>
> >> Forgot to add, Shincha (probably Number 1 if I'd made a list but it is
> >> a sencha from what I understand).
> >
> >
> > What exactly is this "Shincha"? I was browsing through Gray and
> > Seddon's site and saw mention of it. Very curious.
>
> In my understanding, it is 'first flush' Sencha picked in early May.

Yes, this is right. "Shin" means "fresh, new", and we all know what
"cha" is. First harvest rice is labeled similarly, with bags proudly
proclaiming they are "Shinmai", "mai" being "rice".

> I've seen reference that it is always picked on the eighty-eighth day
> after the spring planting but I'm not sure if this is true or not.

Can't vouch for this, but regardless, Shincha should be the first Sencha
offering of the new season. Naturally, bags of tea marked "Shincha" are
truly fresh and bright only if bought in the Spring.

--crymad

The next ten cups I drink.

Jim

> > Dear Tea lovers:
> > What is your top ten favorite tea

Michael Plant > writes:

> [...]
> Please enlighten me regarding the Guangxi tea story, whatever that means.
> (We can count Guangxi as SE China, can we not?)

Well, it's been a while and nobody's tried to answer this, so ...

Guangxi is certainly southern, but it's west of Guangdong, which is on
the South China Sea. Guangxi actually *means* something like Wide West.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

Lewis Perin > wrote in message >...
> Michael Plant > writes:
>
> > [...]
> > Please enlighten me regarding the Guangxi tea story, whatever that means.
> > (We can count Guangxi as SE China, can we not?)
>
> Well, it's been a while and nobody's tried to answer this, so ...
>
> Guangxi is certainly southern, but it's west of Guangdong, which is on
> the South China Sea. Guangxi actually *means* something like Wide West.
>
> /Lew
> ---
> Lew Perin /
> http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

GuangXi is famous for it's Gui Flower type tea and Look Bow/ Liu Bao.
Look Bow's taste is similar to Shu Puerh. Most people cannot tell
whether it is Look Bow or Sook Pau Leh / Shu Puerh.

11/17/03


> Lewis Perin > wrote in message
> >...
>> Michael Plant > writes:
>>
>>> [...]
>>> Please enlighten me regarding the Guangxi tea story, whatever that means.
>>> (We can count Guangxi as SE China, can we not?)
>>
>> Well, it's been a while and nobody's tried to answer this, so ...
>>
>> Guangxi is certainly southern, but it's west of Guangdong, which is on
>> the South China Sea. Guangxi actually *means* something like Wide West.
>>
>> /Lew
>> ---
>> Lew Perin /
>> http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html
>
> GuangXi is famous for it's Gui Flower type tea and Look Bow/ Liu Bao.
> Look Bow's taste is similar to Shu Puerh. Most people cannot tell
> whether it is Look Bow or Sook Pau Leh / Shu Puerh.

Aha. I'm going to do a little search for these. Meanwhile, could you kindly
describe their tastes a little bit.

Thanks.

Michael

Michael Plant > wrote :

> >>> Please enlighten me regarding the Guangxi tea story, whatever that means.
> >>> (We can count Guangxi as SE China, can we not?)

Sorry, Michael, I take it this was aimed at me? There's been a couple
of times in the past that the subject of "horrible yunnan greens" has
come up and I've chimed in and said I've in the past found some
(exquisite) green and white teas in Yunnan and no place else ... on
the other hand, cheap bulk standard Yunnan green can be rough and only
eclipsed in horridness by the "across the county line" guangxi greens.
It amazes me how much of this stuff is drank in China when all around
manage to produce really great green tea.

> >> Guangxi is certainly southern, but it's west of Guangdong, which is on
> >> the South China Sea. Guangxi actually *means* something like Wide West.

Ha ha, Lew ... which means that Guangdong means something like Wide
East?

> > GuangXi is famous for it's Gui Flower type tea and Look Bow/ Liu Bao.
> > Look Bow's taste is similar to Shu Puerh. Most people cannot tell
> > whether it is Look Bow or Sook Pau Leh / Shu Puerh.
>
> Aha. I'm going to do a little search for these. Meanwhile, could you kindly
> describe their tastes a little bit.

Cigarettes, soil, straw, ...

(The Immoral Mr Teas) writes:

> [...Guangxi teas...]
> > >> Guangxi is certainly southern, but it's west of Guangdong, which is on
> > >> the South China Sea. Guangxi actually *means* something like Wide West.
>
> Ha ha, Lew ... which means that Guangdong means something like Wide
> East?

Yes. I've seen the Chinese characters and looked them up.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

The Immoral Mr 11/18/03


> Michael Plant > wrote :
>
>>>>> Please enlighten me regarding the Guangxi tea story, whatever that means.
>>>>> (We can count Guangxi as SE China, can we not?)
>
> Sorry, Michael, I take it this was aimed at me? There's been a couple
> of times in the past that the subject of "horrible yunnan greens" has
> come up and I've chimed in and said I've in the past found some
> (exquisite) green and white teas in Yunnan and no place else ... on
> the other hand, cheap bulk standard Yunnan green can be rough and only
> eclipsed in horridness by the "across the county line" guangxi greens.
> It amazes me how much of this stuff is drank in China when all around
> manage to produce really great green tea.
>
>>>> Guangxi is certainly southern, but it's west of Guangdong, which is on
>>>> the South China Sea. Guangxi actually *means* something like Wide West.
>
> Ha ha, Lew ... which means that Guangdong means something like Wide
> East?
>
>>> GuangXi is famous for it's Gui Flower type tea and Look Bow/ Liu Bao.
>>> Look Bow's taste is similar to Shu Puerh. Most people cannot tell
>>> whether it is Look Bow or Sook Pau Leh / Shu Puerh.
>>
>> Aha. I'm going to do a little search for these. Meanwhile, could you kindly
>> describe their tastes a little bit.
>
> Cigarettes, soil, straw, ...

I have a quarter pound of Special Tea's Guangxi Lin Yun White Down, which I
drank yesterday (not the whole quarter, I assure you). It's very tasty,
fruity, sometimes almost "custardy," and fresh. In fact, it's fruity I
suspect adulteration, although it's not advertized as such. Two of the
needle style Guangxi teas I got from Silk Road were uneventful; neither
awful nor awsome.

Cigarettes, soil, straw?? Sounds like a green pu-erh I once knew. Anyway, I
think I'll be closing the door on my Guangxi tea adventure soon.

Any good references in English regarding tea plant varietals known to this
group?

I'm listening to Steve Reich's Six Marimbas and drinking...nothing at the
moment. So, I'm off to boil up some water to ruin a delicate gyokoru.
Whadaya say there, Jimbo?

Michael

I was hoping for something a little more historic and/or poetic, Lew.
Alas, my dream is ruined.

How about East and West Factories?

(The Immoral Mr Teas) writes:

> I was hoping for something a little more historic and/or poetic, Lew.
> Alas, my dream is ruined.
>
> How about East and West Factories?

You know a lot more Chinese than I do, but I get the impression that
"Factory No. 1" and "Factory No. 2" would be more idiomatic. Maybe
"East Wind" and "West Wind" would do, but wait, that sounds too much
like the Cultural Revolution, doesn't it?

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

Hey Groupo,

Any ideas regarding teas (and tea-likes) that can reduce hypertension?
Ku-ding's been suggested.

Thanks.
Michael

Hey Groupo,

Any ideas regarding teas (and tea-likes) that can reduce hypertension?
Ku-ding's been suggested.

Thanks.
Michael

I'm reposting with a proper subject line. Sorry.

Lewis Perin > wrote in message

> You know a lot more Chinese than I do, but I get the impression that
> "Factory No. 1" and "Factory No. 2" would be more idiomatic.

realised just after posting that I was thinking of the chang radical
(with its modern meaning of factory, old meaning of slope)

actually, I haven't a clue about guang, except that its now a
simplified form (so might not carry the same meaning of the guang
radical with its various meanings of 'expanse' 'vast' and also 'roof'
and all the connotations that go with that .... no, looking in the
dictionary, these meanings are under the same character in its trad
form : guang radical with huang phonetic... or whatever.)

now I'm really confused

> Maybe "East Wind" and "West Wind" would do, but wait,
> that sounds too much like the Cultural Revolution, doesn't it?

and now really really confused !

oo
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