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I just spent a wonderful half hour in "In Pursuit of Tea" in Brooklyn.
Sebastian was great, subtly correcting my pronunciation of "gaiwan" and showing me short movies of tea picking & making in India & China while making me a couple of cups of the Silver Needle Pu-erh which was, if possible, even better than Lew's review of it. I left with some of each of their Pu-erhs. As I type, I am sampling the Tibetan Mushroom Pu-erh which is great. Not as subtle or sweet as the silver needle but very flavorful with nice nuances. Thanks for the recommendation guys! --Tom -oo- ""\o~ ------------------------------------ "Homo sum, humani nil a me alienum puto." Terrance |
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![]() "Tom" > wrote in message ... > I just spent a wonderful half hour in "In Pursuit of Tea" in Brooklyn. > > Sebastian was great, subtly correcting my pronunciation of "gaiwan" and showing > me short movies of tea picking & making in India & China while making me a > couple of cups of the Silver Needle Pu-erh which was, if possible, even better > than Lew's review of it. > > I left with some of each of their Pu-erhs. > > As I type, I am sampling the Tibetan Mushroom Pu-erh which is great. Not as > subtle or sweet as the silver needle but very flavorful with nice nuances. > > Thanks for the recommendation guys! > > > --Tom Sounds great, Tom. I am likely headed that way soon, where is it located? TIA Karen |
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Tom,
I'm glad to hear you had a good time over there. The films are fun, aren't they? I'm do to visit myself since I'm out of some of my favorites. Did you try (or buy) the aged Lu An? That's the fermented green that comes in a bamboo basket topped with big dry leaves. Tastes of earth and beets. Wonderful. But, the Silver Needles Beencha Pu-erh takes the prize. Nothing else in its class. Isn't it gettin' on time for those winter Bao Zhongs to start rollin' in? I'm almost completely out of Oolong. That is *not* a good thing. BTW, and on the subject of Oolong, have you tried Big Apple down on Howard Street, Manhattan? They're pretty cool, they have good stuff, serve formal gungfu -- beware the killer strength though -- and they'll talk with you too, not unlike the IPOT guys. It's Lew's find. How could it be bad? Michael 1/5/04 > I just spent a wonderful half hour in "In Pursuit of Tea" in Brooklyn. > > Sebastian was great, subtly correcting my pronunciation of "gaiwan" and > showing > me short movies of tea picking & making in India & China while making me a > couple of cups of the Silver Needle Pu-erh which was, if possible, even better > than Lew's review of it. > > I left with some of each of their Pu-erhs. > > As I type, I am sampling the Tibetan Mushroom Pu-erh which is great. Not as > subtle or sweet as the silver needle but very flavorful with nice nuances. > > Thanks for the recommendation guys! |
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Michael Plant > writes:
> [...visiting IPOT...] > I'm almost completely out of Oolong. That is *not* a good thing. BTW, and on > the subject of Oolong, have you tried Big Apple down on Howard Street, > Manhattan? They're pretty cool, they have good stuff, serve formal gungfu -- > beware the killer strength though -- and they'll talk with you too, not > unlike the IPOT guys. Let me add that what Michael undoubtedly means by "formal" is that you get gongfu tea service with all the tools and accessories. The atmosphere is far from formal, though: it's loose and relaxed. They'll let you do the brewing yourself if you prefer. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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Sounds awesome.
Where is it? >Subject: A Great Visit: In Pursuit of Tea >From: Lewis Perin >Date: 1/6/2004 11:05 AM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: > > >Michael Plant > writes: > >> [...visiting IPOT...] >> I'm almost completely out of Oolong. That is *not* a good thing. BTW, and >on >> the subject of Oolong, have you tried Big Apple down on Howard Street, >> Manhattan? They're pretty cool, they have good stuff, serve formal gungfu >-- >> beware the killer strength though -- and they'll talk with you too, not >> unlike the IPOT guys. > >Let me add that what Michael undoubtedly means by "formal" is that you >get gongfu tea service with all the tools and accessories. The >atmosphere is far from formal, though: it's loose and relaxed. >They'll let you do the brewing yourself if you prefer. > >/Lew >--- >Lew Perin / >http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html > > > > > > --Tom -oo- ""\o~ ------------------------------------ "Homo sum, humani nil a me alienum puto." Terrance |
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1/6/04
> Sounds awesome. > > Where is it? > >> Subject: A Great Visit: In Pursuit of Tea >> From: Lewis Perin >> Date: 1/6/2004 11:05 AM Eastern Standard Time >> Message-id: > >> >> Michael Plant > writes: >> >>> [...visiting IPOT...] >>> I'm almost completely out of Oolong. That is *not* a good thing. BTW, and >>> on >>> the subject of Oolong, have you tried Big Apple down on Howard Street, >>> Manhattan? They're pretty cool, they have good stuff, serve formal gungfu >> -- >>> beware the killer strength though -- and they'll talk with you too, not >>> unlike the IPOT guys. >> >> Let me add that what Michael undoubtedly means by "formal" is that you >> get gongfu tea service with all the tools and accessories. The >> atmosphere is far from formal, though: it's loose and relaxed. >> They'll let you do the brewing yourself if you prefer. >> >> /Lew Tom, First, Lew is of course quite right about formality at Big Apple. I was referring to the fact that they use gungfu set ups and run the entire routine of heat-ups, rinses, washes, and steeps. The atmosphere is indeed informal, though. Big Apple is on Howard Street on the North side between Broadway and Lafayette, closer to the latter. You walk up some steps, if I recall. Their sign features "internet," I think. They have a couple computers, and it costs something like six dollars an hour to connect. Not so bad. Lew will have to chime in with a more specific address. Michael |
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Michael Plant > writes:
> 1/6/04 > > > > Sounds awesome. > > > > Where is it? > > [...] > [...] > Big Apple is on Howard Street on the North side between Broadway and > Lafayette, closer to the latter. You walk up some steps, if I recall. Their > sign features "internet," I think. They have a couple computers, and it > costs something like six dollars an hour to connect. Not so bad. Lew will > have to chime in with a more specific address. What I find engraved on the inside of my eyelids is 22D Howard St. It's not far north of Canal St. /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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Dean /6/04
> "Michael Plant" > wrote in message > ... > >> Isn't it gettin' on time for those winter Bao Zhongs to start rollin' in? >> > Michael, > > Perhaps you buy your Oolongs from B&M shops, but if you do use internet > sources, which ones do you think have the best selection and quality? > > Thanks, > Dean Dean, I'm at something of a lose here myself -- wish Laylage were around; she knows -- but it seems Brian of ShanShui down in Washington DC is a major player. For me these are finicky teas, not in the brewing but in the finding. Sometimes they're great and just right, sometimes too "viscous," sometimes too thin. It's the melon flower flavor and aroma that hook me. The year before last, IPOT offered a really great one. Last year's IMHO was not as fine. I'm just an amateur, though; the mood of the moment weighs in heavily. (All the above about Bao Zhong.) More generally, Oolong-wise, I get off on the IPOT Monkey Picked Competition Ti Guan Yin, although I've been out of it for quite awhile. Some remarkable ones I've tasted from Taiwan Tea. I had an aged dark Oolong and a Li Shan from The Oolong Tea Store in New Jersey that I liked a lot. Also, I've enjoyed those I've had from ITC, but I don't enjoy their prices. I tend away from the flowery light green Oolongs and more toward the complex ones with a (slight) resiny, steely, and or woody overlay. The truth? I usually like the one I'm drinking at the moment best. B&M? Took me a couple minutes. Bread&Mortar, Bread&Roses, Bread&Tea. Got it now. I buy teas from The Big Apple (Something) in NYC on Howard Street between Broadway and Lafayette, a gungfu tea place with internet.I've been known to buy at Ten Ren's shop, but less and less, since they're too big now for my tastes, having bragged to me about their hundreds of locations in China, PR of, that is. Best, Michael |
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![]() "Michael Plant" > wrote in message ... > Dean /6/04 > > > "Michael Plant" > wrote in message > > ... > > > >> Isn't it gettin' on time for those winter Bao Zhongs to start rollin' in? > >> > > Michael, > > > > Perhaps you buy your Oolongs from B&M shops, but if you do use internet > > sources, which ones do you think have the best selection and quality? > > > > Thanks, > > Dean > > > Dean, > > I'm at something of a lose here myself -- wish Laylage were around; she > knows -- but it seems Brian of ShanShui down in Washington DC is a major > player. For me these are finicky teas, not in the brewing but in the > finding. Sometimes they're great and just right, sometimes too "viscous," > sometimes too thin. It's the melon flower flavor and aroma that hook me. The > year before last, IPOT offered a really great one. Last year's IMHO was not > as fine. I'm just an amateur, though; the mood of the moment weighs in > heavily. (All the above about Bao Zhong.) > > More generally, Oolong-wise, I get off on the IPOT Monkey Picked Competition > Ti Guan Yin, although I've been out of it for quite awhile. Some remarkable > ones I've tasted from Taiwan Tea. I had an aged dark Oolong and a Li Shan > from The Oolong Tea Store in New Jersey that I liked a lot. Also, I've > enjoyed those I've had from ITC, but I don't enjoy their prices. I tend away > from the flowery light green Oolongs and more toward the complex ones with a > (slight) resiny, steely, and or woody overlay. The truth? I usually like > the one I'm drinking at the moment best. > > B&M? Took me a couple minutes. Bread&Mortar, Bread&Roses, Bread&Tea. Got it > now. I buy teas from The Big Apple (Something) in NYC on Howard Street > between Broadway and Lafayette, a gungfu tea place with internet.I've been > known to buy at Ten Ren's shop, but less and less, since they're too big now > for my tastes, having bragged to me about their hundreds of locations in > China, PR of, that is. > Thanks for your thoughts. I'm still exploring Chinese Oolongs, trying to better understand their character. I live in the Philadelphia area, there is only one real tea store in Phila that I'm aware of and its hours don't correspond to mine very well. Most of my explorations are by necessity done through online vendors, which prompted my original note. My usual tea of choice is Darjeeling, and thanks to another thread I now think of Darjeeling as Indian oolong. I've had the Gopaldhara WT-8 from Specialteas and thought it extraordinary - the only Darjeeling from which I've ever been able to get good multiple infusions, probably because of the bold leaf style. If this is the wave of the Darjeeling future, I for one am all for it! Regards, Dean |
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![]() "Michael Plant" > wrote in message ... > Dean /6/04 > > > "Michael Plant" > wrote in message > > ... > > > >> Isn't it gettin' on time for those winter Bao Zhongs to start rollin' in? > >> Michael, Imperial Tea Court is advertising a "Imperial Wen Shan Bao Zhong", but the price is stunning: $70 for 4 ounces! Regards, Dean |
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"Michael Plant" > wrote in message
... > Isn't it gettin' on time for those winter Bao Zhongs to start rollin' in? > Michael, Perhaps you buy your Oolongs from B&M shops, but if you do use internet sources, which ones do you think have the best selection and quality? Thanks, Dean |
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In article > "Dean Macinskas" > writes:
>Perhaps you buy your Oolongs from B&M shops, but if you do use internet >sources, which ones do you think have the best selection and quality? > >Thanks, >Dean I purchase mine he http://www.oolong-tea.com/ and I most like the Summer Oolong with its woody, peach-like aroma. C. H. Yang provides fast and friendly service. --Marshall |
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