Hello rfdters; back in the tea business after a long hiatus from the
internet and tea. Apparently I suffer from a caffeine addiction.. What
kind of BS is that? Anyway, I guess I'll need to figure out something
to drink that doesn't taste bad that wont leave me outon the streets
begging for another hit of that Silver Needle.


Steve

Steve Hay > writes:

> Hello rfdters; back in the tea business after a long hiatus from the
> internet and tea. Apparently I suffer from a caffeine
> addiction.. What kind of BS is that? Anyway, I guess I'll need to
> figure out something to drink that doesn't taste bad that wont leave
> me outon the streets begging for another hit of that Silver Needle.

I've always thought caffeine addiction was something temporary, and
that you can be rid of it by adjusting your intake, but the way you
write makes it seem like a chronic condition. You sure you don't mean
caffeine allergy (even though I'm not sure there's such a thing)?

I find if I limit my coffee intake to one cup a day and my tea intake
to three or four "first time" infusions a day then I'm OK.

Cheers,

- Joel

Steve Hay > writes:

> Hello rfdters; back in the tea business after a long hiatus from the
> internet and tea. Apparently I suffer from a caffeine
> addiction.. What kind of BS is that? Anyway, I guess I'll need to
> figure out something to drink that doesn't taste bad that wont leave
> me outon the streets begging for another hit of that Silver Needle.

I've always thought caffeine addiction was something temporary, and
that you can be rid of it by adjusting your intake, but the way you
write makes it seem like a chronic condition. You sure you don't mean
caffeine allergy (even though I'm not sure there's such a thing)?

I find if I limit my coffee intake to one cup a day and my tea intake
to three or four "first time" infusions a day then I'm OK.

Cheers,

- Joel

Joel Reicher wrote:

> I've always thought caffeine addiction was something temporary, and
> that you can be rid of it by adjusting your intake, but the way you
> write makes it seem like a chronic condition. You sure you don't mean
> caffeine allergy (even though I'm not sure there's such a thing)?
>
> I find if I limit my coffee intake to one cup a day and my tea intake
> to three or four "first time" infusions a day then I'm OK.

I haven't seeked medical advise, but I know if I use it, the symptoms
come right back. Didn't used to happen that way. I quit for about a month.

Steve

Joel Reicher wrote:

> I've always thought caffeine addiction was something temporary, and
> that you can be rid of it by adjusting your intake, but the way you
> write makes it seem like a chronic condition. You sure you don't mean
> caffeine allergy (even though I'm not sure there's such a thing)?
>
> I find if I limit my coffee intake to one cup a day and my tea intake
> to three or four "first time" infusions a day then I'm OK.

I haven't seeked medical advise, but I know if I use it, the symptoms
come right back. Didn't used to happen that way. I quit for about a month.

Steve

Steve Hay > writes:

> I haven't seeked medical advise, but I know if I use it, the symptoms
> come right back. Didn't used to happen that way. I quit for about a
> month.

That doesn't sound like addiction. If it was addiction, keeping up the
intake should prevent symptoms, but you're saying the symptoms hit as
soon as you consume, yes? Maybe it is allergy. Maybe it's not
caffeine. Maybe you should find out.

Cheers,

- Joel

Steve Hay > writes:

> I haven't seeked medical advise, but I know if I use it, the symptoms
> come right back. Didn't used to happen that way. I quit for about a
> month.

That doesn't sound like addiction. If it was addiction, keeping up the
intake should prevent symptoms, but you're saying the symptoms hit as
soon as you consume, yes? Maybe it is allergy. Maybe it's not
caffeine. Maybe you should find out.

Cheers,

- Joel

On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:42:36 GMT, Steve Hay >
wrote:

>Hello rfdters; back in the tea business after a long hiatus from the
>internet and tea. Apparently I suffer from a caffeine addiction.. What
>kind of BS is that? Anyway, I guess I'll need to figure out something
>to drink that doesn't taste bad that wont leave me outon the streets
>begging for another hit of that Silver Needle.
>
>
>Steve



Welcome back.

********************
You don't give up. You don't quit.
You do what you say. You say what you do.
You go out there. You win.
You do the best you can. *Never* give up.
~~~Rupert Boneham~~~

On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:42:36 GMT, Steve Hay >
wrote:

>Hello rfdters; back in the tea business after a long hiatus from the
>internet and tea. Apparently I suffer from a caffeine addiction.. What
>kind of BS is that? Anyway, I guess I'll need to figure out something
>to drink that doesn't taste bad that wont leave me outon the streets
>begging for another hit of that Silver Needle.
>
>
>Steve



Welcome back.

********************
You don't give up. You don't quit.
You do what you say. You say what you do.
You go out there. You win.
You do the best you can. *Never* give up.
~~~Rupert Boneham~~~

Steve Hay wrote:
>
> Joel Reicher wrote:
>
> > I've always thought caffeine addiction was something temporary, and
> > that you can be rid of it by adjusting your intake, but the way you
> > write makes it seem like a chronic condition. You sure you don't mean
> > caffeine allergy (even though I'm not sure there's such a thing)?
> > I find if I limit my coffee intake to one cup a day and my tea intake
> > to three or four "first time" infusions a day then I'm OK.
>
> I haven't seeked medical advise, but I know if I use it, the symptoms
> come right back. Didn't used to happen that way. I quit for about a month.

I'm not sure what is happening with you, Steve, but caffeine works by blocking
receptor sites for adenosine in the brain. Adenosine, to put it briefly, slows
you down so when the receptor sites are blocked, you get "speeded up". I'm
working from memory here, but I read a study many years ago that concluded that
when you regularly ingest caffeine, the brain will respond by increasing the
number of adenosine receptor sites over a period of a few days. Thus, if you
stop cold turkey after that, you will feel lethargic, get a headache, etc.
This would also indicate that the best way to stop is to do so gradually over
the period of maybe a couple of weeks or so.


Randy

Steve Hay wrote:
>
> Joel Reicher wrote:
>
> > I've always thought caffeine addiction was something temporary, and
> > that you can be rid of it by adjusting your intake, but the way you
> > write makes it seem like a chronic condition. You sure you don't mean
> > caffeine allergy (even though I'm not sure there's such a thing)?
> > I find if I limit my coffee intake to one cup a day and my tea intake
> > to three or four "first time" infusions a day then I'm OK.
>
> I haven't seeked medical advise, but I know if I use it, the symptoms
> come right back. Didn't used to happen that way. I quit for about a month.

I'm not sure what is happening with you, Steve, but caffeine works by blocking
receptor sites for adenosine in the brain. Adenosine, to put it briefly, slows
you down so when the receptor sites are blocked, you get "speeded up". I'm
working from memory here, but I read a study many years ago that concluded that
when you regularly ingest caffeine, the brain will respond by increasing the
number of adenosine receptor sites over a period of a few days. Thus, if you
stop cold turkey after that, you will feel lethargic, get a headache, etc.
This would also indicate that the best way to stop is to do so gradually over
the period of maybe a couple of weeks or so.


Randy