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hello all,
i just purchased a tea that i am really enjoying, but since i cannot decipher chinese, i don't really know what kind it actually is. the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as 'chinese tea'. anyways, here are some pics if you would like to help: the container: http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg here is a picture of the leaves: http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1a.jpg i really like the tea, but have a bit of trouble describing the taste (apart from it being greenish, heh), but the tea does uncurl into huge, whole, gorgeous leaves. any help is greatly appreciated ![]() --mo-- |
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Hi Auntymo,
> the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming > cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as > 'chinese tea'. "Famous Chinese Tea". Well that looks like a box from Mainland China. > anyways, here are some pics if you would like to help: > > the container: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg "the way of tea" "top quality" etc. The name of the tea is : Tie Guan Yin. Guan Yin is the god(dess) Kannon. Ti is black iron (black silver ?), an old character used here. > here is a picture of the leaves: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1a.jpg Big "stalks". Funny, that's exactly the same appearance of the one I was drinking today. > i really like the tea, but have a bit of trouble describing the taste (apart > from it being greenish, heh), but the tea does uncurl into huge, whole, > gorgeous leaves. And you have little branches with 2 or 3 leaves on them ? Mine is called Anxi Mao She I had never heard of it before, which means nothing. It's also a Wulong. I get a yellow brew. There is a Anxi Tie Guan Yin, that should cost 20$ per 100g or more. It gives an orange brew and is not so green when you see it dry. What is on your photo looks more like a Taiwanese for the color (that gives a yellow brew ?). Kuri |
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Hi Auntymo,
> the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming > cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as > 'chinese tea'. "Famous Chinese Tea". Well that looks like a box from Mainland China. > anyways, here are some pics if you would like to help: > > the container: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg "the way of tea" "top quality" etc. The name of the tea is : Tie Guan Yin. Guan Yin is the god(dess) Kannon. Ti is black iron (black silver ?), an old character used here. > here is a picture of the leaves: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1a.jpg Big "stalks". Funny, that's exactly the same appearance of the one I was drinking today. > i really like the tea, but have a bit of trouble describing the taste (apart > from it being greenish, heh), but the tea does uncurl into huge, whole, > gorgeous leaves. And you have little branches with 2 or 3 leaves on them ? Mine is called Anxi Mao She I had never heard of it before, which means nothing. It's also a Wulong. I get a yellow brew. There is a Anxi Tie Guan Yin, that should cost 20$ per 100g or more. It gives an orange brew and is not so green when you see it dry. What is on your photo looks more like a Taiwanese for the color (that gives a yellow brew ?). Kuri |
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Working with the PinYin with assumed accents:
zhong quo is mainland china ming is the tea plant we call camilla sinensis cha means tea as in a drink The tea itself looks like a Pouchong (slightly oxidized green). Maybe additional inscription shows the tea location of origin probably somewhere in Fujian. It looks like commercial packaging so care to share where we can get some? That is tantalizing leaf. Jim "auntymo" > wrote in message news:<EZyvc.617880$Pk3.116337@pd7tw1no>... > hello all, > > i just purchased a tea that i am really enjoying, but since i cannot > decipher chinese, i don't really know what kind it actually is. > > the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming > cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as > 'chinese tea'. > > anyways, here are some pics if you would like to help: > > the container: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg > > here is a picture of the leaves: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1a.jpg > > i really like the tea, but have a bit of trouble describing the taste (apart > from it being greenish, heh), but the tea does uncurl into huge, whole, > gorgeous leaves. > > any help is greatly appreciated ![]() > --mo-- |
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Working with the PinYin with assumed accents:
zhong quo is mainland china ming is the tea plant we call camilla sinensis cha means tea as in a drink The tea itself looks like a Pouchong (slightly oxidized green). Maybe additional inscription shows the tea location of origin probably somewhere in Fujian. It looks like commercial packaging so care to share where we can get some? That is tantalizing leaf. Jim "auntymo" > wrote in message news:<EZyvc.617880$Pk3.116337@pd7tw1no>... > hello all, > > i just purchased a tea that i am really enjoying, but since i cannot > decipher chinese, i don't really know what kind it actually is. > > the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming > cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as > 'chinese tea'. > > anyways, here are some pics if you would like to help: > > the container: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg > > here is a picture of the leaves: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1a.jpg > > i really like the tea, but have a bit of trouble describing the taste (apart > from it being greenish, heh), but the tea does uncurl into huge, whole, > gorgeous leaves. > > any help is greatly appreciated ![]() > --mo-- |
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"cc" > writes:
> [...] > > And you have little branches with 2 or 3 leaves on them ? Mine is called > Anxi Mao She I had never heard of it before, which means nothing. It's also > a Wulong. I get a yellow brew. I bet it's a variant transliteration of Mao Xie, or Hairy Crab. Good stuff! /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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"cc" > writes:
> [...] > > And you have little branches with 2 or 3 leaves on them ? Mine is called > Anxi Mao She I had never heard of it before, which means nothing. It's also > a Wulong. I get a yellow brew. I bet it's a variant transliteration of Mao Xie, or Hairy Crab. Good stuff! /Lew --- Lew Perin / http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html |
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thanks for the response so far! but then i figured you guys would love a
mystery. heh i made some more of it today, just seven dry leaves in my small gaiwan. and once the leaves uncurled they filled half the gaiwan! here is a picture of the leaves after i enjoyed my tea: http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1b.jpg (as you can see most of the branches have three leaves on them) the dry leaves are tightly rolled and heavy, reminding me of a gunpowder tea. it also smells green like a gunpowder, with no flowery scent that is noticeable. the liquor is yellow green. it smells like a chinese green. very light taste. as i said, pretty green. heh. i'm new at this by the way. on the top of the container there is some embossed writing: 'zi bo xinlu' the character for tea, and then underneath... 'zhiguan' a couple of people have said that the container says it is a ti kuan yin. if it is...wow...it's not like any ti kuan yin i've ever tried yet, seeming more 'green' than usual, and having none of the flowery, perfumy oolong smell. anyways i like it. ![]() it cost about $30.00CAD for the container of tea, which i guesstimate holds about 200 or so grams (?). i'm pretty horrible at guesstimating, and don't have a scale handy. anyways, it will probably last me forever since i only need a few leaves per gaiwan. i bought it at a hole in the wall chinese shop in our local china town. i think i've been to most of them already, i like to take a bit of a risk and purchase tea usually having no idea of what i am actually getting. it would probably help a lot if i knew chinese eh? i'm no conoisseur, but i've found a few kinds i really like, a da hong pao, some ti kuan yin, and a few greens, also *another* mystery tea which i'll probably start another thread for. anyways, thanks for all the help so far! --mo-- |
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thanks for the response so far! but then i figured you guys would love a
mystery. heh i made some more of it today, just seven dry leaves in my small gaiwan. and once the leaves uncurled they filled half the gaiwan! here is a picture of the leaves after i enjoyed my tea: http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1b.jpg (as you can see most of the branches have three leaves on them) the dry leaves are tightly rolled and heavy, reminding me of a gunpowder tea. it also smells green like a gunpowder, with no flowery scent that is noticeable. the liquor is yellow green. it smells like a chinese green. very light taste. as i said, pretty green. heh. i'm new at this by the way. on the top of the container there is some embossed writing: 'zi bo xinlu' the character for tea, and then underneath... 'zhiguan' a couple of people have said that the container says it is a ti kuan yin. if it is...wow...it's not like any ti kuan yin i've ever tried yet, seeming more 'green' than usual, and having none of the flowery, perfumy oolong smell. anyways i like it. ![]() it cost about $30.00CAD for the container of tea, which i guesstimate holds about 200 or so grams (?). i'm pretty horrible at guesstimating, and don't have a scale handy. anyways, it will probably last me forever since i only need a few leaves per gaiwan. i bought it at a hole in the wall chinese shop in our local china town. i think i've been to most of them already, i like to take a bit of a risk and purchase tea usually having no idea of what i am actually getting. it would probably help a lot if i knew chinese eh? i'm no conoisseur, but i've found a few kinds i really like, a da hong pao, some ti kuan yin, and a few greens, also *another* mystery tea which i'll probably start another thread for. anyways, thanks for all the help so far! --mo-- |
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In article <EZyvc.617880$Pk3.116337@pd7tw1no>, "auntymo" > wrote:
> >the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming >cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as >'chinese tea'. literally means "Chinese famous tea" (means "fine tea") > >the container: >http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg the top 4 red characters in a box mean "fine grade fine tea" (my poor translation) then the 2 red characters can translate "top grade" the 2 big black characters mean "tea dao (tau) (way of tea)? the 3 red ones mean "te guan yin" (iron buddha). bye now, pam @ home ¤p¬} Pam's Ode to Spammers & Telemarketers May all spammers & telemarketers die an agonizing death; have no burial places; their souls be chased by demons in Gehenna from one room to another for 1000 years. |
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In article <EZyvc.617880$Pk3.116337@pd7tw1no>, "auntymo" > wrote:
> >the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming >cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as >'chinese tea'. literally means "Chinese famous tea" (means "fine tea") > >the container: >http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg the top 4 red characters in a box mean "fine grade fine tea" (my poor translation) then the 2 red characters can translate "top grade" the 2 big black characters mean "tea dao (tau) (way of tea)? the 3 red ones mean "te guan yin" (iron buddha). bye now, pam @ home ¤p¬} Pam's Ode to Spammers & Telemarketers May all spammers & telemarketers die an agonizing death; have no burial places; their souls be chased by demons in Gehenna from one room to another for 1000 years. |
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As for Iron Buddha all I could see was the second character for
Goddess only after you pointed it out. I flipped back and forth between the two characters for Iron and Mercy and couldn't match them on the tin. For the two big black characters I have packaging for the top character which means Enjoying. I couldn't find it in any online dictionaries. I couldn't find the lower character. I agree with the original poster I've never seen Tie Guan Yin that looked like this. I always think it is heavily oxidized. I'm taking a picture to my Chinatown and see if I can find some. The leaf is still on the stem? I guess some pruning would be normal to keep the plant under control and you encounter broken stem in lesser grades but not like that. One of the most interesting tea discoveries I seen from Chinatown. I'm jealous. Jim (Dr. Gee) wrote in message >... > In article <EZyvc.617880$Pk3.116337@pd7tw1no>, "auntymo" > wrote: > > > >the only english on the container was not very helpful - 'zhong guo ming > >cha' - which i think probably means something extremely vague such as > >'chinese tea'. > > literally means "Chinese famous tea" (means "fine tea") > > > > >the container: > >http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1.jpg > > the top 4 red characters in a box mean "fine grade fine tea" (my poor > translation) > > then the 2 red characters can translate "top grade" > > the 2 big black characters mean "tea dao (tau) (way of tea)? > > the 3 red ones mean "te guan yin" (iron buddha). > > bye now, > > pam @ home ¤p¬} > > Pam's Ode to Spammers & Telemarketers > > May all spammers & telemarketers die an agonizing death; have no > burial places; their souls be chased by demons in Gehenna from one > room to another for 1000 years. |
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I agree it's a Ti Kuan Yin I've never seen. In fact I think of cheap
TKY as the poor mans Puerh. You can go into the grocery stores and buy cheap TKY and go into the retail tourist stores and buy much more expensive Ti Kuan Yin. I've seen tins for +$100 so switch to Puerh from the apothocary. I've never bought at high prices but yours is worth checking out. My local tea shoppe is getting a new stock of Ti Kuan Yin to replace the old. He never liked the taste of the old and likes the new. It hasn't arrived but tasted a sample he had from the Lost Wages tea show and I agree. It is big black curled chunky leaf. He started his second anniversary sale yesterday and I stocked up on some great bargains. He had TongYu Mountain green tea from Fujian which seems to be rare. I'll go back on Sunday and cleanup on whatever remains. Jim "auntymo" > wrote in message news:<2UPvc.659857$oR5.636347@pd7tw3no>... > thanks for the response so far! but then i figured you guys would love a > mystery. heh > > i made some more of it today, just seven dry leaves in my small gaiwan. and > once the leaves uncurled they filled half the gaiwan! > > here is a picture of the leaves after i enjoyed my tea: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1b.jpg > (as you can see most of the branches have three leaves on them) > > the dry leaves are tightly rolled and heavy, reminding me of a gunpowder > tea. it also smells green like a gunpowder, with no flowery scent that is > noticeable. > > the liquor is yellow green. it smells like a chinese green. very light > taste. as i said, pretty green. heh. i'm new at this by the way. > > on the top of the container there is some embossed writing: > 'zi bo xinlu' > the character for tea, and then underneath... > 'zhiguan' > > a couple of people have said that the container says it is a ti kuan yin. if > it is...wow...it's not like any ti kuan yin i've ever tried yet, seeming > more 'green' than usual, and having none of the flowery, perfumy oolong > smell. anyways i like it. ![]() > > it cost about $30.00CAD for the container of tea, which i guesstimate holds > about 200 or so grams (?). i'm pretty horrible at guesstimating, and don't > have a scale handy. anyways, it will probably last me forever since i only > need a few leaves per gaiwan. > > i bought it at a hole in the wall chinese shop in our local china town. i > think i've been to most of them already, i like to take a bit of a risk and > purchase tea usually having no idea of what i am actually getting. it would > probably help a lot if i knew chinese eh? i'm no conoisseur, but i've found > a few kinds i really like, a da hong pao, some ti kuan yin, and a few > greens, also *another* mystery tea which i'll probably start another thread > for. > > anyways, thanks for all the help so far! > > --mo-- |
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I agree it's a Ti Kuan Yin I've never seen. In fact I think of cheap
TKY as the poor mans Puerh. You can go into the grocery stores and buy cheap TKY and go into the retail tourist stores and buy much more expensive Ti Kuan Yin. I've seen tins for +$100 so switch to Puerh from the apothocary. I've never bought at high prices but yours is worth checking out. My local tea shoppe is getting a new stock of Ti Kuan Yin to replace the old. He never liked the taste of the old and likes the new. It hasn't arrived but tasted a sample he had from the Lost Wages tea show and I agree. It is big black curled chunky leaf. He started his second anniversary sale yesterday and I stocked up on some great bargains. He had TongYu Mountain green tea from Fujian which seems to be rare. I'll go back on Sunday and cleanup on whatever remains. Jim "auntymo" > wrote in message news:<2UPvc.659857$oR5.636347@pd7tw3no>... > thanks for the response so far! but then i figured you guys would love a > mystery. heh > > i made some more of it today, just seven dry leaves in my small gaiwan. and > once the leaves uncurled they filled half the gaiwan! > > here is a picture of the leaves after i enjoyed my tea: > http://www.skizzers.org/auntymo/mysterytea1b.jpg > (as you can see most of the branches have three leaves on them) > > the dry leaves are tightly rolled and heavy, reminding me of a gunpowder > tea. it also smells green like a gunpowder, with no flowery scent that is > noticeable. > > the liquor is yellow green. it smells like a chinese green. very light > taste. as i said, pretty green. heh. i'm new at this by the way. > > on the top of the container there is some embossed writing: > 'zi bo xinlu' > the character for tea, and then underneath... > 'zhiguan' > > a couple of people have said that the container says it is a ti kuan yin. if > it is...wow...it's not like any ti kuan yin i've ever tried yet, seeming > more 'green' than usual, and having none of the flowery, perfumy oolong > smell. anyways i like it. ![]() > > it cost about $30.00CAD for the container of tea, which i guesstimate holds > about 200 or so grams (?). i'm pretty horrible at guesstimating, and don't > have a scale handy. anyways, it will probably last me forever since i only > need a few leaves per gaiwan. > > i bought it at a hole in the wall chinese shop in our local china town. i > think i've been to most of them already, i like to take a bit of a risk and > purchase tea usually having no idea of what i am actually getting. it would > probably help a lot if i knew chinese eh? i'm no conoisseur, but i've found > a few kinds i really like, a da hong pao, some ti kuan yin, and a few > greens, also *another* mystery tea which i'll probably start another thread > for. > > anyways, thanks for all the help so far! > > --mo-- |
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