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Do you put cream in tea?

I grew up on iced tea and didn't drink hot tea until after living in
England in the late 80's for a few years growing up. Lots of folks put
cream and sugar in their tea there, some didn't. I did at first, but then
learned to like it straight (maybe because it was more like ice tea)- I
tended to like Earl Grey and Lapsong Soochong.

I mostly drink green and Oolong teas now but when I drink black tea I
usually don't put anything in it.

Now days tea has alot of touted health benefits (amazingly enough, when I
was younger it was said to be "bad for you"), which probably has kept my tea
drinking at a steady pace (hey, if it's good for you and doesn't taste
bad... why not? Some days I might drink 5-8 cups of tea). Apparrently,
adding milk/cream to tea reduces the health benefits from what I've read.



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"magnulus" > writes:

> Do you put cream in tea?


Only if it's really dreadful tea.

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"magnulus" > writes:

> Do you put cream in tea?


Only if it's really dreadful tea.

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Use milk in tea- not cream. Cream is too heavy and destroys the delicate
flavor. Cream gets used in coffee, not tea.

Better yet, learn which teas you can enjoy without milk or sugar. It's
healthier that way.

"magnulus" > wrote in message
news
> Do you put cream in tea?
>
> I grew up on iced tea and didn't drink hot tea until after living in
> England in the late 80's for a few years growing up. Lots of folks put
> cream and sugar in their tea there, some didn't. I did at first, but then
> learned to like it straight (maybe because it was more like ice tea)- I
> tended to like Earl Grey and Lapsong Soochong.
>
> I mostly drink green and Oolong teas now but when I drink black tea I
> usually don't put anything in it.
>
> Now days tea has alot of touted health benefits (amazingly enough, when

I
> was younger it was said to be "bad for you"), which probably has kept my

tea
> drinking at a steady pace (hey, if it's good for you and doesn't taste
> bad... why not? Some days I might drink 5-8 cups of tea). Apparrently,
> adding milk/cream to tea reduces the health benefits from what I've read.
>
>
>



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Use milk in tea- not cream. Cream is too heavy and destroys the delicate
flavor. Cream gets used in coffee, not tea.

Better yet, learn which teas you can enjoy without milk or sugar. It's
healthier that way.

"magnulus" > wrote in message
news
> Do you put cream in tea?
>
> I grew up on iced tea and didn't drink hot tea until after living in
> England in the late 80's for a few years growing up. Lots of folks put
> cream and sugar in their tea there, some didn't. I did at first, but then
> learned to like it straight (maybe because it was more like ice tea)- I
> tended to like Earl Grey and Lapsong Soochong.
>
> I mostly drink green and Oolong teas now but when I drink black tea I
> usually don't put anything in it.
>
> Now days tea has alot of touted health benefits (amazingly enough, when

I
> was younger it was said to be "bad for you"), which probably has kept my

tea
> drinking at a steady pace (hey, if it's good for you and doesn't taste
> bad... why not? Some days I might drink 5-8 cups of tea). Apparrently,
> adding milk/cream to tea reduces the health benefits from what I've read.
>
>
>





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Lewis Perin wrote:
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> "magnulus" > writes:
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> > Do you put cream in tea?

>
> Only if it's really dreadful tea.


My brother's wife took an especially long time to deliver her baby, and
so while biding my time in the waiting room, I drank up my supply of tea
from a thermos brought from home. Lipton tea bags water from the
hospital cafeteria were my only option. Some of those thimble-size,
single-serve half-and-halfs with the paper lids were available for the
taking, so I pocketed some of those too. Turns out, milk tea prepared
with Lipton and half-and-half was surprisingly satisfying -- so much so
that I carried around a little stash of these things throughout my
visit. Highly recommended for drinking during the severe midwest
winters.

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Lewis Perin wrote:
>
> "magnulus" > writes:
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> > Do you put cream in tea?

>
> Only if it's really dreadful tea.


My brother's wife took an especially long time to deliver her baby, and
so while biding my time in the waiting room, I drank up my supply of tea
from a thermos brought from home. Lipton tea bags water from the
hospital cafeteria were my only option. Some of those thimble-size,
single-serve half-and-halfs with the paper lids were available for the
taking, so I pocketed some of those too. Turns out, milk tea prepared
with Lipton and half-and-half was surprisingly satisfying -- so much so
that I carried around a little stash of these things throughout my
visit. Highly recommended for drinking during the severe midwest
winters.

--crymad
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I love sugar- but green tea tastes delish without. so do most Japanese teas
and quite a Chinese greens.
when it comes to doing a proper British tea time, though, I agree. Bring on
the sugar!
> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:21:01 GMT, "Tea" > wrote:
>
> >Better yet, learn which teas you can enjoy without milk or sugar. It's
> >healthier that way.

>
> Absolutely NEVER! ! ! I've never met a cup, pot, or pitcher of tea, hot or

iced
> that couldn't use a dose of 100 % REAL PURE CANE SUGAR!
>
> Healthy > /dev/null
>
> If I die from what ever I am going to die happy. Bring on the SUGAR!
>



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I love sugar- but green tea tastes delish without. so do most Japanese teas
and quite a Chinese greens.
when it comes to doing a proper British tea time, though, I agree. Bring on
the sugar!
> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 16:21:01 GMT, "Tea" > wrote:
>
> >Better yet, learn which teas you can enjoy without milk or sugar. It's
> >healthier that way.

>
> Absolutely NEVER! ! ! I've never met a cup, pot, or pitcher of tea, hot or

iced
> that couldn't use a dose of 100 % REAL PURE CANE SUGAR!
>
> Healthy > /dev/null
>
> If I die from what ever I am going to die happy. Bring on the SUGAR!
>



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> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:39:20 GMT, "Tea" > wrote:
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> >I love sugar- but green tea tastes delish without. so do most Japanese

teas
> >and quite a Chinese greens.
> >when it comes to doing a proper British tea time, though, I agree. Bring

on
> >the sugar!

>
> I don't care for green tea at all, so thats not a problem.
>
> The japanese tea(s) I only run into when going to those "hibachi" style
> restaurants, and its drinkable without sugar, but not my most desired way

to
> drink tea.


Perhaps not- but if you are drinking tea in Japanese restaurants, there's a
good chance you're drinking green tea. All green tea isn't green in color.
At didsfferent times of the year, I drink different kinds of tea. I prefer
greens in the spring and midwinter. Chinese blacks I can drink all year
round, but they have to be hot and milky in winter.
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> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:39:20 GMT, "Tea" > wrote:
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> >I love sugar- but green tea tastes delish without. so do most Japanese

teas
> >and quite a Chinese greens.
> >when it comes to doing a proper British tea time, though, I agree. Bring

on
> >the sugar!

>
> I don't care for green tea at all, so thats not a problem.
>
> The japanese tea(s) I only run into when going to those "hibachi" style
> restaurants, and its drinkable without sugar, but not my most desired way

to
> drink tea.


Perhaps not- but if you are drinking tea in Japanese restaurants, there's a
good chance you're drinking green tea. All green tea isn't green in color.
At didsfferent times of the year, I drink different kinds of tea. I prefer
greens in the spring and midwinter. Chinese blacks I can drink all year
round, but they have to be hot and milky in winter.
>
>



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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:47:25 -0400, magnulus wrote:

> Do you put cream in tea?
>


If tea is healthy, and milk is healthy, how can the combination of the two
be unhealthy?
I use normal milk (3.5% fat) for strong Assams to take the bitter edge and
leave the pungency. I once heard that milk precipitates the tannic acid,
may be a myth.
Oolongs and greens are always pure.

JB
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JB > writes:

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:47:25 -0400, magnulus wrote:
>
> > Do you put cream in tea?
> >

>
> If tea is healthy, and milk is healthy, how can the combination of the two
> be unhealthy?


Not that I think milky tea will kill you, but the way you reached your
conclusion seems a bit shaky. Think, for example, of binary chemical
weapons:

http://www.mitretek.org/home.nsf/hom...aryChemWeapons

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"magnulus" > wrote in message > ...
> Do you put cream in tea?


Cream very seldom. In fact, only if I have to, like with traditional
Eastfresean tea ;-).

With milk of course. If it tastes nice, I do it. So, always with
Assam, sometimes with Keemun ... and with all those grocery store
stuff (PG Tips, which I kinda like from time to time, don't know why),
as well as all barely drinkable teas.

[...]

> Apparrently,
> adding milk/cream to tea reduces the health benefits from what I've read.


Well, personally, I do not belive in health any longer ;-)


Dieter


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"magnulus" > wrote in message > ...
> Do you put cream in tea?


Cream very seldom. In fact, only if I have to, like with traditional
Eastfresean tea ;-).

With milk of course. If it tastes nice, I do it. So, always with
Assam, sometimes with Keemun ... and with all those grocery store
stuff (PG Tips, which I kinda like from time to time, don't know why),
as well as all barely drinkable teas.

[...]

> Apparrently,
> adding milk/cream to tea reduces the health benefits from what I've read.


Well, personally, I do not belive in health any longer ;-)


Dieter
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> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:34:04 GMT, Catrin > wrote:
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> >LOL, I feel that way about honey. Not any honey, but nice, fresh, local
> >locust honey OR *tupelo* honey from Florida, very, very mild (especially
> >the locust (black locust tree) honey and perfect for tea. Just a drop or
> >two, I have yet to find a tea it doesn't compliment.

>
> Honey is a fine substitute, but my concept of tea, well, probably could be
> called tea flavored sugar. Definitely more than a couple of drops to make

it
> sweet enough for me.
>
> I like my tea sweet, just like I like "Sweet" Iced Tea. Its called sweet

for a
> reason, and since thats the way I've always had it, thats the way I make

it and
> expect it to taste. Hot tea doesn't have to be as sweet as the "Sweet Iced

Tea"
> but its going to have a good dose of sugar in it.


Hey- whatever works for you. Chacun au son gout.


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> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:34:04 GMT, Catrin > wrote:
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> >LOL, I feel that way about honey. Not any honey, but nice, fresh, local
> >locust honey OR *tupelo* honey from Florida, very, very mild (especially
> >the locust (black locust tree) honey and perfect for tea. Just a drop or
> >two, I have yet to find a tea it doesn't compliment.

>
> Honey is a fine substitute, but my concept of tea, well, probably could be
> called tea flavored sugar. Definitely more than a couple of drops to make

it
> sweet enough for me.
>
> I like my tea sweet, just like I like "Sweet" Iced Tea. Its called sweet

for a
> reason, and since thats the way I've always had it, thats the way I make

it and
> expect it to taste. Hot tea doesn't have to be as sweet as the "Sweet Iced

Tea"
> but its going to have a good dose of sugar in it.


Hey- whatever works for you. Chacun au son gout.


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> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:34:04 GMT, Catrin > wrote:
>
> >LOL, I feel that way about honey. Not any honey, but nice, fresh, local
> >locust honey OR *tupelo* honey from Florida, very, very mild (especially
> >the locust (black locust tree) honey and perfect for tea. Just a drop or
> >two, I have yet to find a tea it doesn't compliment.

>
> Honey is a fine substitute, but my concept of tea, well, probably could be
> called tea flavored sugar. Definitely more than a couple of drops to make

it
> sweet enough for me.
>
> I like my tea sweet, just like I like "Sweet" Iced Tea. Its called sweet

for a
> reason, and since thats the way I've always had it, thats the way I make

it and
> expect it to taste. Hot tea doesn't have to be as sweet as the "Sweet Iced

Tea"
> but its going to have a good dose of sugar in it.


Hey- whatever works for you. Chacun au son gout.


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On 30 Aug 2004 18:20:47 -0400, Lewis Perin > wrote:

>Not that I think milky tea will kill you, but the way you reached your
>conclusion seems a bit shaky. Think, for example, of binary chemical
>weapons:


You should keep your milk fresher.



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On 30 Aug 2004 18:20:47 -0400, Lewis Perin > wrote:

>Not that I think milky tea will kill you, but the way you reached your
>conclusion seems a bit shaky. Think, for example, of binary chemical
>weapons:


You should keep your milk fresher.

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You wouldn't smear sugar on the lips of a woman you kiss, why put it in tea?

Alex.

"magnulus" > wrote in message
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> Do you put cream in tea?
>
> I grew up on iced tea and didn't drink hot tea until after living in
> England in the late 80's for a few years growing up. Lots of folks put
> cream and sugar in their tea there, some didn't. I did at first, but then
> learned to like it straight (maybe because it was more like ice tea)- I
> tended to like Earl Grey and Lapsong Soochong.
>
> I mostly drink green and Oolong teas now but when I drink black tea I
> usually don't put anything in it.
>
> Now days tea has alot of touted health benefits (amazingly enough, when I
> was younger it was said to be "bad for you"), which probably has kept my
> tea
> drinking at a steady pace (hey, if it's good for you and doesn't taste
> bad... why not? Some days I might drink 5-8 cups of tea). Apparrently,
> adding milk/cream to tea reduces the health benefits from what I've read.
>
>
>
>



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You wouldn't smear sugar on the lips of a woman you kiss, why put it in tea?

Alex.

"magnulus" > wrote in message
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> Do you put cream in tea?
>
> I grew up on iced tea and didn't drink hot tea until after living in
> England in the late 80's for a few years growing up. Lots of folks put
> cream and sugar in their tea there, some didn't. I did at first, but then
> learned to like it straight (maybe because it was more like ice tea)- I
> tended to like Earl Grey and Lapsong Soochong.
>
> I mostly drink green and Oolong teas now but when I drink black tea I
> usually don't put anything in it.
>
> Now days tea has alot of touted health benefits (amazingly enough, when I
> was younger it was said to be "bad for you"), which probably has kept my
> tea
> drinking at a steady pace (hey, if it's good for you and doesn't taste
> bad... why not? Some days I might drink 5-8 cups of tea). Apparrently,
> adding milk/cream to tea reduces the health benefits from what I've read.
>
>
>
>



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"JB" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:47:25 -0400, magnulus wrote:
>
> > Do you put cream in tea?
> >

>
> If tea is healthy, and milk is healthy, how can the combination of the two
> be unhealthy?


How does the milk react with the catechins and polyphenols in the tea?
The evidence either way is weak at the moment. All that is known for sure
is that pure tea is a healthy drink that has been shown to prevent disease.

I do like milk and sugar in some kinds of tea, such as Indian tea blends,
but on the whole I think tea is better off without it. If a tea has so
little character that it must be doctored up to drink, there's something
wrong with it.


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"JB" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:47:25 -0400, magnulus wrote:
>
> > Do you put cream in tea?
> >

>
> If tea is healthy, and milk is healthy, how can the combination of the two
> be unhealthy?


How does the milk react with the catechins and polyphenols in the tea?
The evidence either way is weak at the moment. All that is known for sure
is that pure tea is a healthy drink that has been shown to prevent disease.

I do like milk and sugar in some kinds of tea, such as Indian tea blends,
but on the whole I think tea is better off without it. If a tea has so
little character that it must be doctored up to drink, there's something
wrong with it.




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"Dieter Folz" > wrote in message
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> With milk of course. If it tastes nice, I do it. So, always with
> Assam, sometimes with Keemun ... and with all those grocery store
> stuff (PG Tips, which I kinda like from time to time, don't know why),
> as well as all barely drinkable teas.
>


What is Assam and Keemum- I assume you live in Germany?

Here in the US tea is often "black pekoe". Some of it is drinkable-
Lipton hot is not bad stuff, but Red Rose is not a good hot tea brand (it
tastes sourish and stale), although it's popular in the South US for iced
tea with sugar and lemon. Twinings and Bigalo English teas are sometimes
available too. I have found Jackson English tea to be good and it is
available at some stores. For black tea I like Earl Grey and Irish
Breakfast, occasionally I like Lapsong Soochong.

And also green tea is becomming more popular. You can buy it in stores,
but the quality is not as great as what one can get from specialty stores or
online. I usually preffer Longjing or a cheap Ceylon green. Most of my tea
drinking is green tea.

Whole leaf tea is the best way to make the stuff, but hasn't caught on in
supermarkets in the US yet. We have more whole bean coffees, but the same
hasn't happened for tea yet.


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"magnulus" > wrote in message >...
> "Dieter Folz" > wrote in message
> om...
> > With milk of course. If it tastes nice, I do it. So, always with
> > Assam, sometimes with Keemun ... and with all those grocery store
> > stuff (PG Tips, which I kinda like from time to time, don't know why),
> > as well as all barely drinkable teas.
> >

>
> What is Assam and Keemum- I assume you live in Germany?


Yes, I live in Germay.

Assam is a Valley in India, near the Brahmaputra River. The Assam
Valley is the largest tea growing area in the world with over 600 tea
estates. It is very Rich, strong and full-bodied with a distinctive
malty taste.

Keemun is a Chinese black tea, produced in Keemun county, Anhui
province. It's taste is very smooth, toasty, even sometimes a bit
smokey, and everytime
with a light natural sweetness.

There are diffrent brands which sell those teas, but the better way
would be to buy those at a good local teashop.

But esp. Assam is very often a basis for Blends of all kind, like
English Blends, Breakfast-Teas or traditional Eastfresean Blends.

> Here in the US tea is often "black pekoe". Some of it is drinkable-
> Lipton hot is not bad stuff, but Red Rose is not a good hot tea brand (it
> tastes sourish and stale), although it's popular in the South US for iced
> tea with sugar and lemon.


Yeah, I think it's the same like German tea brands. Most more cheap
teas are a blend of Sumatra and African teas, maybe with some Ceylon.
The same with English bands like OG Tips, Tetley and so on. But thode
English ones give a really decent brew, the German teas don't (despite
some *really* good traditional Eastfresean teas like Bünting, Thiele
and Onno Behrends), esp. those in tea bags. Also the Assam, Ceylon or
even Darjeeling teas of German brands, sold in the supermarket, are
mostly not very good and much too expensive. For the same amount of
money, you can gat a real good tea at nearly every local teashop.

> Twinings and Bigalo English teas are sometimes
> available too. I have found Jackson English tea to be good and it is
> available at some stores.


Twinings and Fortnum and Mason are also available in Germany. I don't
like them very much. Meanwhile, I tasted nearly all of them. They are
ok, Fortnum and Mason much more than Twinings, but in quality only
between German brands (sometimes as bad as, esp. the Darjeeling and
the Earl Grey of Twinings, which tastes artificial, maybe 'cause it
is) and the cheaper qualities you can get at teashops around. There
are far too expensive, esp. for that kind of quality.

So, if you want a decent cup, you have to buy at a local teashop, for
better qualities you should got to www.teeladen.de for specialities to
www.paul-schrader.de, and for absolute delicate teas, esp.
Darjeelings, to www.betty-darling.de. But there, as everywhere in
Germany, the Darjeelings are more like an Oolong than a black tea.

Maybe I should give the teas of the Bramah Museum a try sometime ...
therefore I didn't understnd this traditional English procedure for
making tea yet.

> For black tea I like Earl Grey and Irish
> Breakfast, occasionally I like Lapsong Soochong.
>
> And also green tea is becomming more popular. You can buy it in stores,
> but the quality is not as great as what one can get from specialty stores or
> online. I usually preffer Longjing or a cheap Ceylon green. Most of my tea
> drinking is green tea.


Green tea is also very popular in Germany and there is a large variety
at all qualities. Here a very good way is to buy them at a local asian
shop. For the delicate ones, see addresses above.

> Whole leaf tea is the best way to make the stuff, but hasn't caught on in
> supermarkets in the US yet. We have more whole bean coffees, but the same
> hasn't happened for tea yet.


Also in Germany, most of the sold supermarket tea is in bags. But it
also depends on the region. Esp. in the north of Germany, there is
much more of a loose tea tradition (as far as I know, there are no
Onno Behrends tea bags for example, maybe, because the Eastfreseans
would burn down the firm ...).


So long

Dieter
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"magnulus" > wrote in message >...
> "Dieter Folz" > wrote in message
> om...
> > With milk of course. If it tastes nice, I do it. So, always with
> > Assam, sometimes with Keemun ... and with all those grocery store
> > stuff (PG Tips, which I kinda like from time to time, don't know why),
> > as well as all barely drinkable teas.
> >

>
> What is Assam and Keemum- I assume you live in Germany?


Yes, I live in Germay.

Assam is a Valley in India, near the Brahmaputra River. The Assam
Valley is the largest tea growing area in the world with over 600 tea
estates. It is very Rich, strong and full-bodied with a distinctive
malty taste.

Keemun is a Chinese black tea, produced in Keemun county, Anhui
province. It's taste is very smooth, toasty, even sometimes a bit
smokey, and everytime
with a light natural sweetness.

There are diffrent brands which sell those teas, but the better way
would be to buy those at a good local teashop.

But esp. Assam is very often a basis for Blends of all kind, like
English Blends, Breakfast-Teas or traditional Eastfresean Blends.

> Here in the US tea is often "black pekoe". Some of it is drinkable-
> Lipton hot is not bad stuff, but Red Rose is not a good hot tea brand (it
> tastes sourish and stale), although it's popular in the South US for iced
> tea with sugar and lemon.


Yeah, I think it's the same like German tea brands. Most more cheap
teas are a blend of Sumatra and African teas, maybe with some Ceylon.
The same with English bands like OG Tips, Tetley and so on. But thode
English ones give a really decent brew, the German teas don't (despite
some *really* good traditional Eastfresean teas like Bünting, Thiele
and Onno Behrends), esp. those in tea bags. Also the Assam, Ceylon or
even Darjeeling teas of German brands, sold in the supermarket, are
mostly not very good and much too expensive. For the same amount of
money, you can gat a real good tea at nearly every local teashop.

> Twinings and Bigalo English teas are sometimes
> available too. I have found Jackson English tea to be good and it is
> available at some stores.


Twinings and Fortnum and Mason are also available in Germany. I don't
like them very much. Meanwhile, I tasted nearly all of them. They are
ok, Fortnum and Mason much more than Twinings, but in quality only
between German brands (sometimes as bad as, esp. the Darjeeling and
the Earl Grey of Twinings, which tastes artificial, maybe 'cause it
is) and the cheaper qualities you can get at teashops around. There
are far too expensive, esp. for that kind of quality.

So, if you want a decent cup, you have to buy at a local teashop, for
better qualities you should got to www.teeladen.de for specialities to
www.paul-schrader.de, and for absolute delicate teas, esp.
Darjeelings, to www.betty-darling.de. But there, as everywhere in
Germany, the Darjeelings are more like an Oolong than a black tea.

Maybe I should give the teas of the Bramah Museum a try sometime ...
therefore I didn't understnd this traditional English procedure for
making tea yet.

> For black tea I like Earl Grey and Irish
> Breakfast, occasionally I like Lapsong Soochong.
>
> And also green tea is becomming more popular. You can buy it in stores,
> but the quality is not as great as what one can get from specialty stores or
> online. I usually preffer Longjing or a cheap Ceylon green. Most of my tea
> drinking is green tea.


Green tea is also very popular in Germany and there is a large variety
at all qualities. Here a very good way is to buy them at a local asian
shop. For the delicate ones, see addresses above.

> Whole leaf tea is the best way to make the stuff, but hasn't caught on in
> supermarkets in the US yet. We have more whole bean coffees, but the same
> hasn't happened for tea yet.


Also in Germany, most of the sold supermarket tea is in bags. But it
also depends on the region. Esp. in the north of Germany, there is
much more of a loose tea tradition (as far as I know, there are no
Onno Behrends tea bags for example, maybe, because the Eastfreseans
would burn down the firm ...).


So long

Dieter
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Milk is fattening in quantities and it isn't always healthy. Mad Cow
Diseaese can conceivably be passed through milk.


"magnulus" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "JB" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:47:25 -0400, magnulus wrote:
> >
> > > Do you put cream in tea?
> > >

> >
> > If tea is healthy, and milk is healthy, how can the combination of the

two
> > be unhealthy?

>
> How does the milk react with the catechins and polyphenols in the tea?
> The evidence either way is weak at the moment. All that is known for sure
> is that pure tea is a healthy drink that has been shown to prevent

disease.
>
> I do like milk and sugar in some kinds of tea, such as Indian tea

blends,
> but on the whole I think tea is better off without it. If a tea has so
> little character that it must be doctored up to drink, there's something
> wrong with it.
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"magnulus" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "JB" > wrote in message
> news
> > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:47:25 -0400, magnulus wrote:
> >
> > > Do you put cream in tea?
> > >

> >
> > If tea is healthy, and milk is healthy, how can the combination of the

two
> > be unhealthy?

>
> How does the milk react with the catechins and polyphenols in the tea?
> The evidence either way is weak at the moment. All that is known for sure
> is that pure tea is a healthy drink that has been shown to prevent

disease.
>
> I do like milk and sugar in some kinds of tea, such as Indian tea

blends,
> but on the whole I think tea is better off without it. If a tea has so
> little character that it must be doctored up to drink, there's something
> wrong with it.
>
>





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"magnulus" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Dieter Folz" > wrote in message
> om...
> > With milk of course. If it tastes nice, I do it. So, always with
> > Assam, sometimes with Keemun ... and with all those grocery store
> > stuff (PG Tips, which I kinda like from time to time, don't know why),
> > as well as all barely drinkable teas.
> >

>
> What is Assam and Keemum- I assume you live in Germany?


I live in NY, and can get Assams and Keemuns pretty easily. They aren't
usually found in supermarkets though- your local tea dealer will have them.
You can also track down plenty of teasellers on the internet.
>
> Here in the US tea is often "black pekoe". Some of it is drinkable-
> Lipton hot is not bad stuff, but Red Rose is not a good hot tea brand (it
> tastes sourish and stale), although it's popular in the South US for iced
> tea with sugar and lemon. Twinings and Bigalo English teas are sometimes
> available too. I have found Jackson English tea to be good and it is
> available at some stores. For black tea I like Earl Grey and Irish
> Breakfast, occasionally I like Lapsong Soochong.
>
> And also green tea is becomming more popular. You can buy it in stores,
> but the quality is not as great as what one can get from specialty stores

or
> online. I usually preffer Longjing or a cheap Ceylon green. Most of my

tea
> drinking is green tea.
>
> Whole leaf tea is the best way to make the stuff, but hasn't caught on

in
> supermarkets in the US yet. We have more whole bean coffees, but the

same
> hasn't happened for tea yet.
>
>



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"magnulus" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Dieter Folz" > wrote in message
> om...
> > With milk of course. If it tastes nice, I do it. So, always with
> > Assam, sometimes with Keemun ... and with all those grocery store
> > stuff (PG Tips, which I kinda like from time to time, don't know why),
> > as well as all barely drinkable teas.
> >

>
> What is Assam and Keemum- I assume you live in Germany?


I live in NY, and can get Assams and Keemuns pretty easily. They aren't
usually found in supermarkets though- your local tea dealer will have them.
You can also track down plenty of teasellers on the internet.
>
> Here in the US tea is often "black pekoe". Some of it is drinkable-
> Lipton hot is not bad stuff, but Red Rose is not a good hot tea brand (it
> tastes sourish and stale), although it's popular in the South US for iced
> tea with sugar and lemon. Twinings and Bigalo English teas are sometimes
> available too. I have found Jackson English tea to be good and it is
> available at some stores. For black tea I like Earl Grey and Irish
> Breakfast, occasionally I like Lapsong Soochong.
>
> And also green tea is becomming more popular. You can buy it in stores,
> but the quality is not as great as what one can get from specialty stores

or
> online. I usually preffer Longjing or a cheap Ceylon green. Most of my

tea
> drinking is green tea.
>
> Whole leaf tea is the best way to make the stuff, but hasn't caught on

in
> supermarkets in the US yet. We have more whole bean coffees, but the

same
> hasn't happened for tea yet.
>
>



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> Yeah, I think it's the same like German tea brands. Most more cheap
> teas are a blend of Sumatra and African teas, maybe with some Ceylon.
> The same with English bands like OG Tips, Tetley and so on. But thode
> English ones give a really decent brew, the German teas don't (despite
> some *really* good traditional Eastfresean teas like Bünting, Thiele
> and Onno Behrends), esp. those in tea bags. Also the Assam, Ceylon or
> even Darjeeling teas of German brands, sold in the supermarket, are
> mostly not very good and much too expensive. For the same amount of
> money, you can gat a real good tea at nearly every local teashop.
>


I have lived in Germany but now am back in the UK again. The English tea
bags are better than the German ones, if the tea is taken with milk and
when considering that each bag here contains 3g of tea, the German tea
bags contain mainly 1.5g.

JB

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> Yeah, I think it's the same like German tea brands. Most more cheap
> teas are a blend of Sumatra and African teas, maybe with some Ceylon.
> The same with English bands like OG Tips, Tetley and so on. But thode
> English ones give a really decent brew, the German teas don't (despite
> some *really* good traditional Eastfresean teas like Bünting, Thiele
> and Onno Behrends), esp. those in tea bags. Also the Assam, Ceylon or
> even Darjeeling teas of German brands, sold in the supermarket, are
> mostly not very good and much too expensive. For the same amount of
> money, you can gat a real good tea at nearly every local teashop.
>


I have lived in Germany but now am back in the UK again. The English tea
bags are better than the German ones, if the tea is taken with milk and
when considering that each bag here contains 3g of tea, the German tea
bags contain mainly 1.5g.

JB

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