On 02 Dec 2004 14:01:35 -0500, Lewis Perin wrote:

> (Tom Koeppl) writes:
>
>> I live in the twin cities and I also ran a fowl of the above merchant.
>
> Did you measure its speed?

*chuckle*

Was it carrying a coconut? Oh, wait... that's a swallow.

--
Derek

"There is a proverb. "As you have made your bed, so you must lie in
it, " which is simply a lie. If I have made my bed uncomfortable,
please God, I will make it again." -- G.K. Chesterson

On 02 Dec 2004 14:01:35 -0500, Lewis Perin wrote:

> (Tom Koeppl) writes:
>
>> I live in the twin cities and I also ran a fowl of the above merchant.
>
> Did you measure its speed?

*chuckle*

Was it carrying a coconut? Oh, wait... that's a swallow.

--
Derek

"There is a proverb. "As you have made your bed, so you must lie in
it, " which is simply a lie. If I have made my bed uncomfortable,
please God, I will make it again." -- G.K. Chesterson

"Space Cowboy" > wrote in message roups.com>...
> I was trying to determine your location from the Twin cities.

Ah. I live in Jordan. Small town a few miles southwest of Shakopee on 169.

Cathy Weeks

"Space Cowboy" > wrote in message roups.com>...
> I was trying to determine your location from the Twin cities.

Ah. I live in Jordan. Small town a few miles southwest of Shakopee on 169.

Cathy Weeks

Can you give the approximate prices of the tea shoppe? My local tea
shoppe prices are basically $10/4oz for most and $10/2oz for a select
few. If they don't carry it I don't know what it is, puerh cake being
the only exception. Tea in 10oz pots for the premises is $3 for any
selection with one refill of hot water. The owner knows the pedigree
of the teas flush,estate,etc. Everybody else is clueless. There is a
limited English menu. I'd live there if there was a curry
sheepherder's pie. How come I can't buy curry pizza?

Jim

Derek > wrote in message >...
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:39:34 -0600, Tom Koeppl wrote:
>
> > There is no need to deal with La societe'. He is less than nice ,his
> > prices are high, and his shop is in a bad neighorhood. try the twin
> > cities phone books, there is tea in the area. also about a hundred asian
> > markets. one i like is a beer brewing equipment shop on penn and 50th
> > in mpls that has a few nice teas.
>
> Prices are high compared to what? For most things, they're slightly
> more expensive than TeaSource (around 5 to 10%) but they also taste
> better, IMHO, and are worth a little extra. And the teas I get most
> often aren't available elsewhere.
>
> As for the neighborhood - it's no Highland Park, but how much of the
> Twin Cities really is?

Can you give the approximate prices of the tea shoppe? My local tea
shoppe prices are basically $10/4oz for most and $10/2oz for a select
few. If they don't carry it I don't know what it is, puerh cake being
the only exception. Tea in 10oz pots for the premises is $3 for any
selection with one refill of hot water. The owner knows the pedigree
of the teas flush,estate,etc. Everybody else is clueless. There is a
limited English menu. I'd live there if there was a curry
sheepherder's pie. How come I can't buy curry pizza?

Jim

Derek > wrote in message >...
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:39:34 -0600, Tom Koeppl wrote:
>
> > There is no need to deal with La societe'. He is less than nice ,his
> > prices are high, and his shop is in a bad neighorhood. try the twin
> > cities phone books, there is tea in the area. also about a hundred asian
> > markets. one i like is a beer brewing equipment shop on penn and 50th
> > in mpls that has a few nice teas.
>
> Prices are high compared to what? For most things, they're slightly
> more expensive than TeaSource (around 5 to 10%) but they also taste
> better, IMHO, and are worth a little extra. And the teas I get most
> often aren't available elsewhere.
>
> As for the neighborhood - it's no Highland Park, but how much of the
> Twin Cities really is?

So in the future if somebody asks how to brew Bai Hao I give you cudos
or just assume it is public domain and act like I'm a genius? I did
some research and the extended brewing times aren't mentioned
anywhere.

Jim

Derek > wrote in message >...
> On 2 Dec 2004 08:17:40 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:
>
> > Wow that worked, thanks Derek.
>
> You're welcome.

gooble...gobble

> > If I spaketh it is
> > castest in stonest with copyrightest protectionest.
>
> But only if thou spaketh it firsteth.

On 3 Dec 2004 06:56:57 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:

> So in the future if somebody asks how to brew Bai Hao I give you cudos
> or just assume it is public domain and act like I'm a genius? I did
> some research and the extended brewing times aren't mentioned
> anywhere.
>
> Jim

Actually, you'd have to give credit to Tony at La Societe du The. He's
the one who told me. But then, I don't know where he learned the
information. He might not deserve primary authorship.

I'd say just go with public domain. I'm "here" to share information. I
don't really care if I get credit for it or not.

Now, when I publish something...

--
Derek

If everything's coming your way, then you're in the wrong lane.

On 3 Dec 2004 06:56:57 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:

> So in the future if somebody asks how to brew Bai Hao I give you cudos
> or just assume it is public domain and act like I'm a genius? I did
> some research and the extended brewing times aren't mentioned
> anywhere.
>
> Jim

Actually, you'd have to give credit to Tony at La Societe du The. He's
the one who told me. But then, I don't know where he learned the
information. He might not deserve primary authorship.

I'd say just go with public domain. I'm "here" to share information. I
don't really care if I get credit for it or not.

Now, when I publish something...

--
Derek

If everything's coming your way, then you're in the wrong lane.

On 3 Dec 2004 05:31:56 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:

> Can you give the approximate prices of the tea shoppe? My local tea
> shoppe prices are basically $10/4oz for most and $10/2oz for a select
> few. If they don't carry it I don't know what it is, puerh cake being
> the only exception. Tea in 10oz pots for the premises is $3 for any
> selection with one refill of hot water. The owner knows the pedigree
> of the teas flush,estate,etc. Everybody else is clueless. There is a
> limited English menu. I'd live there if there was a curry
> sheepherder's pie. How come I can't buy curry pizza?

LSdT's prices aren't that standardized. It really depends on the tea.
Just looking at the printed list he gives out, China blacks run from
$5. to $20.25. China greens - $5.00 to $19.80. All for 3 ounce
purchases.

In the shop, he starts at 3 ounces and will go any number of ounces
upward. But online he only sells in multiples of three.

And you can always curry your own pizza. Of course, if you have to
curry it, it's not delivery.

--
Derek

When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by
doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do.

On 3 Dec 2004 05:31:56 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:

> Can you give the approximate prices of the tea shoppe? My local tea
> shoppe prices are basically $10/4oz for most and $10/2oz for a select
> few. If they don't carry it I don't know what it is, puerh cake being
> the only exception. Tea in 10oz pots for the premises is $3 for any
> selection with one refill of hot water. The owner knows the pedigree
> of the teas flush,estate,etc. Everybody else is clueless. There is a
> limited English menu. I'd live there if there was a curry
> sheepherder's pie. How come I can't buy curry pizza?

LSdT's prices aren't that standardized. It really depends on the tea.
Just looking at the printed list he gives out, China blacks run from
$5. to $20.25. China greens - $5.00 to $19.80. All for 3 ounce
purchases.

In the shop, he starts at 3 ounces and will go any number of ounces
upward. But online he only sells in multiples of three.

And you can always curry your own pizza. Of course, if you have to
curry it, it's not delivery.

--
Derek

When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by
doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do.

I just did some 10 minute Bai Hao infusions with good results. If you
don't disturb the pot the leaves just sit on the top without so much a
wiggle. Nothing else comes close to doing that. Even at the extended
brewing times it's not overwhelming but cetainly better than the 2-3
minute mantra everyone else suggests. It's a factoid I think worth
mentioning credit. I'm not here to entertain or educate but I've been
accused of doing both. If you use my material you need my permission
and let me worry about where it came from. Nothing worse than a
comedian stealing from another and then claiming he must have stole it
too.

Jim

Derek > wrote in message >...
> On 3 Dec 2004 06:56:57 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:
>
> > So in the future if somebody asks how to brew Bai Hao I give you cudos
> > or just assume it is public domain and act like I'm a genius? I did
> > some research and the extended brewing times aren't mentioned
> > anywhere.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Actually, you'd have to give credit to Tony at La Societe du The. He's
> the one who told me. But then, I don't know where he learned the
> information. He might not deserve primary authorship.
>
> I'd say just go with public domain. I'm "here" to share information. I
> don't really care if I get credit for it or not.
>
> Now, when I publish something...

If I was running a tea shoppe I'd figure it would be cost plus some
arbitrary markup meaning all the prices would vary. I can see the
logic of more standard pricing so one is shopping for the tea and not
price. So a $10/4oz darjeeling maybe a bit pricey and a $10/2oz Tung
Ting Jade Pouchong a steal. The tea is prepackaged by the owner in
special heavy tea zip lock bags and leading edge heat sealed. No air
in or out. They stand up on a base good for cuppard storage and
identification.

Jim

Derek > wrote in message >...
> On 3 Dec 2004 05:31:56 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:
>
> > Can you give the approximate prices of the tea shoppe? My local tea
> > shoppe prices are basically $10/4oz for most and $10/2oz for a select
> > few. If they don't carry it I don't know what it is, puerh cake being
> > the only exception. Tea in 10oz pots for the premises is $3 for any
> > selection with one refill of hot water. The owner knows the pedigree
> > of the teas flush,estate,etc. Everybody else is clueless. There is a
> > limited English menu. I'd live there if there was a curry
> > sheepherder's pie. How come I can't buy curry pizza?
>
> LSdT's prices aren't that standardized. It really depends on the tea.
> Just looking at the printed list he gives out, China blacks run from
> $5. to $20.25. China greens - $5.00 to $19.80. All for 3 ounce
> purchases.
>
> In the shop, he starts at 3 ounces and will go any number of ounces
> upward. But online he only sells in multiples of three.
>
> And you can always curry your own pizza. Of course, if you have to
> curry it, it's not delivery.

On 4 Dec 2004 07:19:33 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:

> I just did some 10 minute Bai Hao infusions with good results. If you
> don't disturb the pot the leaves just sit on the top without so much a
> wiggle. Nothing else comes close to doing that. Even at the extended
> brewing times it's not overwhelming but cetainly better than the 2-3
> minute mantra everyone else suggests. It's a factoid I think worth
> mentioning credit. I'm not here to entertain or educate but I've been
> accused of doing both. If you use my material you need my permission
> and let me worry about where it came from. Nothing worse than a
> comedian stealing from another and then claiming he must have stole it
> too.
>
> Jim

One of the wonderful things about tea - it isn't that uniform. My Ile
De France (Mauritius) takes 30 seconds. My Peony Blanc takes 10. This
would be why I've seriously considered creating a database of teas and
the steep times I prefer. I just don't have the interest in memorizing
them all.

As for giving credit where credit is due, there's a time and place for
everything. Sometimes people get so concerned about making sure they
get credit for what they write that they just annoy the heck out of
everyone around them.

--
Derek

The journey of a thousand miles sometimes ends very, very badly.

On 4 Dec 2004 07:19:33 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:

> I just did some 10 minute Bai Hao infusions with good results. If you
> don't disturb the pot the leaves just sit on the top without so much a
> wiggle. Nothing else comes close to doing that. Even at the extended
> brewing times it's not overwhelming but cetainly better than the 2-3
> minute mantra everyone else suggests. It's a factoid I think worth
> mentioning credit. I'm not here to entertain or educate but I've been
> accused of doing both. If you use my material you need my permission
> and let me worry about where it came from. Nothing worse than a
> comedian stealing from another and then claiming he must have stole it
> too.
>
> Jim

One of the wonderful things about tea - it isn't that uniform. My Ile
De France (Mauritius) takes 30 seconds. My Peony Blanc takes 10. This
would be why I've seriously considered creating a database of teas and
the steep times I prefer. I just don't have the interest in memorizing
them all.

As for giving credit where credit is due, there's a time and place for
everything. Sometimes people get so concerned about making sure they
get credit for what they write that they just annoy the heck out of
everyone around them.

--
Derek

The journey of a thousand miles sometimes ends very, very badly.

On 4 Dec 2004 07:24:03 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:

> If I was running a tea shoppe I'd figure it would be cost plus some
> arbitrary markup meaning all the prices would vary. I can see the
> logic of more standard pricing so one is shopping for the tea and not
> price. So a $10/4oz darjeeling maybe a bit pricey and a $10/2oz Tung
> Ting Jade Pouchong a steal. The tea is prepackaged by the owner in
> special heavy tea zip lock bags and leading edge heat sealed. No air
> in or out. They stand up on a base good for cuppard storage and
> identification.

Hey, now that's a neat idea. If you vacuum seal the bag, one could
effectively buy several months of tea at a shot and only open a new
bag when necessary.

After all, I've seen a number of the teas Tony's just gotten in that
are in vacuum sealed, lined aluminum bags.
--
Derek

There is an island of opportunity in the middle of every difficulty.
Miss that, though, and you're pretty much doomed.

I boil the water and then let nature do it's thing in three minutes or
less. A 10 minute brew is too much for my lifestyle so relegated to
the special occasion. I'm back to using a glass pot and the dance of
the leaves don't lie. Yeah it's the other guy who really gets the
credit for being the irritant.

Jim

Derek wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2004 07:19:33 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:
>
> > I just did some 10 minute Bai Hao infusions with good results. If
you
> > don't disturb the pot the leaves just sit on the top without so
much a
> > wiggle.
....chomp...chomp..
> One of the wonderful things about tea - it isn't that uniform. My Ile
> De France (Mauritius) takes 30 seconds. My Peony Blanc takes 10. This
> would be why I've seriously considered creating a database of teas
and
> the steep times I prefer. I just don't have the interest in
memorizing
> them all.
>
> As for giving credit where credit is due, there's a time and place
for
> everything. Sometimes people get so concerned about making sure they
> get credit for what they write that they just annoy the heck out of
> everyone around them.
>
> --
> Derek
>
> The journey of a thousand miles sometimes ends very, very badly.

Originally the vacuumed sealed bags were shipped air cargo but would
rupture in unpressurized holes. He bought the equipment to do it
himself.

Jim

Derek wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2004 07:24:03 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:
....rip...
> > The tea is prepackaged by the owner in
> > special heavy tea zip lock bags and leading edge heat sealed. No
air
> > in or out. They stand up on a base good for cuppard storage and
> > identification.
>
> Hey, now that's a neat idea. If you vacuum seal the bag, one could
> effectively buy several months of tea at a shot and only open a new
> bag when necessary.
>
> After all, I've seen a number of the teas Tony's just gotten in that
> are in vacuum sealed, lined aluminum bags.
> --
> Derek
>
> There is an island of opportunity in the middle of every difficulty.
> Miss that, though, and you're pretty much doomed.

Originally the vacuumed sealed bags were shipped air cargo but would
rupture in unpressurized holes. He bought the equipment to do it
himself.

Jim

Derek wrote:
> On 4 Dec 2004 07:24:03 -0800, Space Cowboy wrote:
....rip...
> > The tea is prepackaged by the owner in
> > special heavy tea zip lock bags and leading edge heat sealed. No
air
> > in or out. They stand up on a base good for cuppard storage and
> > identification.
>
> Hey, now that's a neat idea. If you vacuum seal the bag, one could
> effectively buy several months of tea at a shot and only open a new
> bag when necessary.
>
> After all, I've seen a number of the teas Tony's just gotten in that
> are in vacuum sealed, lined aluminum bags.
> --
> Derek
>
> There is an island of opportunity in the middle of every difficulty.
> Miss that, though, and you're pretty much doomed.