Another Question
 

I hope I don't become a pest but I have another question. I got a
sample of English Breakfast Tea. It is made up of leaves which are
more than a 1/2" long. Is the finished product supposed to be as
clear as green tea? The second time I put double the leaves in and
seeped it for 6 minutes in 8 ounces of water and it's still rather
clear. This isn't even close to as strong a tea as I want. It tastes
like Red Rose tea if the tea bag is taken out too soon.

So, am I doing something terribly wrong or is this the was the tea
should be?
--
Douglas

Douglas wrote:

> I hope I don't become a pest but I have another question. I got a
> sample of English Breakfast Tea. It is made up of leaves which are
> more than a 1/2" long. Is the finished product supposed to be as
> clear as green tea? The second time I put double the leaves in and
> seeped it for 6 minutes in 8 ounces of water and it's still rather
> clear. This isn't even close to as strong a tea as I want. It tastes
> like Red Rose tea if the tea bag is taken out too soon.
>
> So, am I doing something terribly wrong or is this the was the tea
> should be?

English Breakfast should be pretty dark. Almost as dark as coffee, in
fact. Are you using boiling water? Black teas need hotter water than
green, and with boiling water six minutes is (for most tastes) a bit too
long.

dmh

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:32:46 -0600, "David M. Harris"
> wrote:

>fact. Are you using boiling water? Black teas need hotter water than
>green, and with boiling water six minutes is (for most tastes) a bit too

The water was boiling when I poured it in the pot with the leaves.
Should I have put the leaves in the boiling water and continued to let
it boil?
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"Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
...
> I hope I don't become a pest

Not a problem.

> but I have another question.

That's what we're here for - to discuss tea.

> I got a
> sample of English Breakfast Tea. It is made up of leaves which are
> more than a 1/2" long. Is the finished product supposed to be as
> clear as green tea?

Usually not, but it depends on what the base tea is. If the base is a black
tea, no. Actually, I've never heard of an EB made of something other than a
black tea, but there's always the first time.

> The second time I put double the leaves in and
> seeped it for 6 minutes in 8 ounces of water and it's still rather
> clear. This isn't even close to as strong a tea as I want. It tastes
> like Red Rose tea if the tea bag is taken out too soon.
>
> So, am I doing something terribly wrong or is this the was the tea
> should be?

Six minutes is too long for any real tea, IMO. How much leaf did you use?

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"Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:32:46 -0600, "David M. Harris"
> > wrote:
>
> >fact. Are you using boiling water? Black teas need hotter water than
> >green, and with boiling water six minutes is (for most tastes) a bit too
>
> The water was boiling when I poured it in the pot with the leaves.
> Should I have put the leaves in the boiling water and continued to let
> it boil?

No! You did exactly right by pouring boiling water over the leaves.

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:16:00 -0600, "Bluesea" >
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>Six minutes is too long for any real tea, IMO. How much leaf did you use?

In this the second batch I used what I hoped was 2 heaping spoons
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> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:16:00 -0600, "Bluesea" >
> wrote:
>
> >Six minutes is too long for any real tea, IMO. How much leaf did you use?
>
> In this the second batch I used what I hoped was 2 heaping spoons

I agree w/ Rebecca, something's not right and you should return it.

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:48:33 -0600, "Bluesea" >
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>I agree w/ Rebecca, something's not right and you should return it.

I think it is stale. It is very, very dried out.

I just tried Bond Street English Breakfast, a sample I got from Upton,
and it brewed perfectly. I used 8 oz water, 1 teaspoon of tea and
seeped it 3 minutes. I'm drinking it now and it's very good.

The tea that I couldn't make was part of the starter set I got from
Adagio teas with the brewer. I like the brewer very much but doubt if
I buy any tea there.
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"Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:48:33 -0600, "Bluesea" >
> wrote:
>
> >I agree w/ Rebecca, something's not right and you should return it.
>
> I think it is stale. It is very, very dried out.
>
> I just tried Bond Street English Breakfast, a sample I got from Upton,
> and it brewed perfectly. I used 8 oz water, 1 teaspoon of tea and
> seeped it 3 minutes. I'm drinking it now and it's very good.
>
> The tea that I couldn't make was part of the starter set I got from
> Adagio teas with the brewer. I like the brewer very much but doubt if
> I buy any tea there.

Dang! I just put in an order on Friday that included the black tea starter
set. My neighbor wants it for her mother's birthday next month. I ordered
the 32 oz, the Pot of Gold set and some other glassware, other samples for
myself (I want small tins for my travel kit and thought it a good way to
sample what Adagio has of my favorites), and the herbal starter set for a
friend who does organic greens so I was already planning to keep those tins
for myself.

Thanks for the heads up. Was that the first you tried out of the starter
set? How are the others?

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Douglas wrote:
> The tea that I couldn't make was part of the starter set I got from
> Adagio teas with the brewer. I like the brewer very much but doubt
if
> I buy any tea there.
> --
> Douglas

It sounds like stale tea to me as well. While I did get some decent tea
from them, the "premium" versions of their teas were HORRIBLY stale. I
won't buy from them again, either. I got two stale tea samples in one
single order, and they've lost my trust.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:27:05 -0600, "Bluesea" >
wrote:

>Thanks for the heads up. Was that the first you tried out of the starter
>set? How are the others?

I just checked the other two cans. Although I didn't try to use the
contents yet they also seem very dry. Right now I'm having my safe
green tea. :)
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"Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 13:27:05 -0600, "Bluesea" >
> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the heads up. Was that the first you tried out of the starter
> >set? How are the others?
>
> I just checked the other two cans. Although I didn't try to use the
> contents yet they also seem very dry. Right now I'm having my safe
> green tea. :)

I don't blame you. Only so much disappointment can be tolerated in a day.

My neighbor's mom is a coffee drinker. Although she might not notice the
difference, I wouldn't think that stale tea would convert her like my
neighbor hopes.

Please report back when you get a chance to try the others.

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On 2/20/2005 2:01 PM, Douglas wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:48:33 -0600, "Bluesea" >
> wrote:
>
>>I agree w/ Rebecca, something's not right and you should return it.
>
> I think it is stale. It is very, very dried out.
>
> I just tried Bond Street English Breakfast, a sample I got from Upton,
> and it brewed perfectly. I used 8 oz water, 1 teaspoon of tea and
> seeped it 3 minutes. I'm drinking it now and it's very good.
>
> The tea that I couldn't make was part of the starter set I got from
> Adagio teas with the brewer. I like the brewer very much but doubt if
> I buy any tea there.

I'm so sorry to hear this, Douglas, but thank you for the post - I was
planning on ordering that starter set today. I don't really *need* the
Aria, but it would be helpful when I only want one cup, as if putting
less water in the teapot is a chore. If I still get this, I'll know that
I'm doing it for the little tins and the brewer, and won't count on the
tea.

Resa

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:50:57 -0600, "Bluesea" >
wrote:

>
>Please report back when you get a chance to try the others.

Ok. I just tried the Earl Grey, Yumman Jig and the Irish Breakfast
and they were just as bad as the English Breakfast. I dumped them all
and kept the tins.

The four samples I got from Upton were all usable.
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"Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:50:57 -0600, "Bluesea" >
> wrote:
>
> >Please report back when you get a chance to try the others.
>
> Ok. I just tried the Earl Grey, Yumman Jig and the Irish Breakfast
> and they were just as bad as the English Breakfast. I dumped them all
> and kept the tins.

[insert bad word(s) of choice]!!!

> The four samples I got from Upton were all usable.

I usually order from Upton because they've been so good. I seem to recall
someone getting something that wasn't fresh, once, but that was a long time
ago. I was planning to get my friend a selection of organic tea samples from
Upton for my friend anyway, but am unhappy about what my neighbor's mother's
birthday gift will be like.

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On 2/20/2005 5:05 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> "Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:50:57 -0600, "Bluesea" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Please report back when you get a chance to try the others.
>>
>> Ok. I just tried the Earl Grey, Yumman Jig and the Irish Breakfast
>> and they were just as bad as the English Breakfast. I dumped them all
>> and kept the tins.
>
> [insert bad word(s) of choice]!!!
>
>> The four samples I got from Upton were all usable.
>
> I usually order from Upton because they've been so good. I seem to recall
> someone getting something that wasn't fresh, once, but that was a long time
> ago. I was planning to get my friend a selection of organic tea samples from
> Upton for my friend anyway, but am unhappy about what my neighbor's mother's
> birthday gift will be like.
>

Is it being shipped to you? Toss their tea, insert your tea... sounds
like she would be very grateful.

"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/20/2005 5:05 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> > "Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:50:57 -0600, "Bluesea" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Please report back when you get a chance to try the others.
> >>
> >> Ok. I just tried the Earl Grey, Yumman Jig and the Irish Breakfast
> >> and they were just as bad as the English Breakfast. I dumped them all
> >> and kept the tins.
> >
> > [insert bad word(s) of choice]!!!
> >
> >> The four samples I got from Upton were all usable.
> >
> > I usually order from Upton because they've been so good. I seem to
recall
> > someone getting something that wasn't fresh, once, but that was a long
time
> > ago. I was planning to get my friend a selection of organic tea samples
from
> > Upton for my friend anyway, but am unhappy about what my neighbor's
mother's
> > birthday gift will be like.
>
> Is it being shipped to you? Toss their tea, insert your tea... sounds
> like she would be very grateful.

Yes, it's coming to me.

I called my neighbor to let her know but she's busy w/ term paper so will
receive the bad news when she calls back later.

The starter set will get the free gift wrap, so that would have to be undone
carefully. Then, there's the matter of the tea - I don't do Yunnan or Irish
Breakfast so the labels wouldn't match the contents. A 4 oz tin of Irish
Breakfast is included in my Pot of Gold set, so that'll work if it isn't
stale. I ordered it for the tin since the price is the same as the teapot
w/o the tea.

Another option is to change the order (it went in late Fri. so, there's a
chance that it hasn't been filled) to only the teapot + different samples
from Adagio (a high risk at this point) or from Upton.

Other ideas?

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On 2/20/2005 5:41 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> "Serendip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2/20/2005 5:05 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>> > "Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:50:57 -0600, "Bluesea" >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Please report back when you get a chance to try the others.
>> >>
>> >> Ok. I just tried the Earl Grey, Yumman Jig and the Irish Breakfast
>> >> and they were just as bad as the English Breakfast. I dumped them all
>> >> and kept the tins.
>> >
>> > [insert bad word(s) of choice]!!!
>> >
>> >> The four samples I got from Upton were all usable.
>> >
>> > I usually order from Upton because they've been so good. I seem to
> recall
>> > someone getting something that wasn't fresh, once, but that was a long
> time
>> > ago. I was planning to get my friend a selection of organic tea samples
> from
>> > Upton for my friend anyway, but am unhappy about what my neighbor's
> mother's
>> > birthday gift will be like.
>>
>> Is it being shipped to you? Toss their tea, insert your tea... sounds
>> like she would be very grateful.
>
> Yes, it's coming to me.

You are saved!!

> I called my neighbor to let her know but she's busy w/ term paper so will
> receive the bad news when she calls back later.

> The starter set will get the free gift wrap, so that would have to be undone
> carefully.

This is easy... use a razor blade, or utility knife, and the tape will
easily give way. Refrigerate, or leave outside if cold enough, and you
may be able to just gently tug. Not that I've ever done this with
presents as a child, mind you... (whistling innocently)

> Then, there's the matter of the tea - I don't do Yunnan or Irish
> Breakfast so the labels wouldn't match the contents. A 4 oz tin of Irish
> Breakfast is included in my Pot of Gold set, so that'll work if it isn't
> stale. I ordered it for the tin since the price is the same as the teapot
> w/o the tea.

That's okay - I would be so excited that someone didn't think the tea
that was enclosed with the gift was worthy, and took the time to dump it
and include teas that (s)he thought I would like, that it would be high
on my favorite gifts list. A handwritten label over the label works great!

> Another option is to change the order (it went in late Fri. so, there's a
> chance that it hasn't been filled) to only the teapot + different samples
> from Adagio (a high risk at this point) or from Upton.

Right now, I'm searching google looking for positive posts about Adagio
teas. But, even if it's just that the sample tins are really old... that
makes me think twice about Adagio teas. They should know better - if
anything, this should be their BEST tea!

> Other ideas?

I'm still liking the dump the Adagio tea, and fill the tins with good
teas idea, mostly because I think the IngenuiTea is such a great gift,
and those little tins have a very high cuteness factor. But I'm still
thinking...

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:05:16 -0600, "Bluesea" >
wrote:

>Upton for my friend anyway, but am unhappy about what my neighbor's mother's
>birthday gift will be like.

Perhaps mine was a fluke & what you receive will be ok.
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"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/20/2005 5:41 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> >
> > Yes, it's coming to me.
>
> You are saved!!

Definitely!

> > The starter set will get the free gift wrap, so that would have to be
undone
> > carefully.
>
> This is easy... use a razor blade, or utility knife, and the tape will
> easily give way. Refrigerate, or leave outside if cold enough, and you
> may be able to just gently tug. Not that I've ever done this with
> presents as a child, mind you... (whistling innocently)

LOL - instead of sneaking into a present as a recepient, we're plotting to
sneak into a gift as a giver. How perverted is that?

> Right now, I'm searching google looking for positive posts about Adagio
> teas. But, even if it's just that the sample tins are really old... that
> makes me think twice about Adagio teas. They should know better - if
> anything, this should be their BEST tea!

Yes, especially because the whole point is to get someone to buy their loose
teas.

> > Other ideas?
>
> I'm still liking the dump the Adagio tea, and fill the tins with good
> teas idea, mostly because I think the IngenuiTea is such a great gift,
> and those little tins have a very high cuteness factor. But I'm still
> thinking...

Okay, neighbor called and was a whole lot less disturbed by the prospect
than I was...turns out that she recently received an order from Upton
(YESSSSS! My attempt to convert her from teabags is a success!) of EG, EB,
Irish Breakfast, and Scottish Breakfast and will simply dump the Adagio and
refill w/ Upton's, scratching out the Yunnan and writing in SB or making her
own label if she gets a round tuit.

Thanks - I'll pass the ideas on how to open the gift w/o tearing the paper
on to her.

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"Rebecca Ore" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Bluesea" > wrote:
>
> > but am unhappy about what my neighbor's mother's
> > birthday gift will be like.
>
> If it's not being shipped direct to her, upwrap, throw out the samples,
> and get some 2 to 4 oz. packages from somewhere good.

Yes, she's in another state so neighbor was already planning to get a bd
card and remail.

And, is now fully prepared to dump the teas.

Thanks!

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"Douglas" <*@*.*> wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 16:05:16 -0600, "Bluesea" >
> wrote:
>
> >Upton for my friend anyway, but am unhappy about what my neighbor's
mother's
> >birthday gift will be like.
>
> Perhaps mine was a fluke & what you receive will be ok.

Four out of four is a really bad fluke. But, she's now prepared to handle
the situation w/ teas already received from Upton so, the possibility of her
mother receiving a poor bd gift is averted.

Thanks again for letting us know.

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"Josh" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Douglas wrote:
> > The tea that I couldn't make was part of the starter set I got from
> > Adagio teas with the brewer. I like the brewer very much but doubt
> if
> > I buy any tea there.
> > --
> > Douglas
>
> It sounds like stale tea to me as well. While I did get some decent tea
> from them, the "premium" versions of their teas were HORRIBLY stale. I
> won't buy from them again, either. I got two stale tea samples in one
> single order, and they've lost my trust.

May I ask which teas you received samples of and which of those were stale?
I ordered some samples for myself that weren't in any of the starter sets
and I'm curious.

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"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'm so sorry to hear this, Douglas, but thank you for the post - I was
> planning on ordering that starter set today. I don't really *need* the
> Aria, but it would be helpful when I only want one cup, as if putting
> less water in the teapot is a chore. If I still get this, I'll know that
> I'm doing it for the little tins and the brewer, and won't count on the
> tea.

Or, get the pot alone and save $4.

Upton has little tins for sale. I was going to look at them, but got a
dnserror because it couldn't find uptontea.com. Do you happen to recall
exactly when they were going to change servers? I'm wondering if it got
delayed to now.

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On 2/20/2005 7:59 PM, Bluesea wrote:

>> This is easy... use a razor blade, or utility knife, and the tape
>> will easily give way. Refrigerate, or leave outside if cold enough,
>> and you may be able to just gently tug. Not that I've ever done
>> this with presents as a child, mind you... (whistling innocently)
>
> LOL - instead of sneaking into a present as a recepient, we're
> plotting to sneak into a gift as a giver. How perverted is that?

Well, it puts it in the really good, and not something to feel at all
guilty about category, which is a very nice change!! It went from bad
thing to terrific thing - pretty amazing!

>> Right now, I'm searching google looking for positive posts about
>> Adagio teas. But, even if it's just that the sample tins are really
>> old... that makes me think twice about Adagio teas. They should
>> know better - if anything, this should be their BEST tea!
>
> Yes, especially because the whole point is to get someone to buy
> their loose teas.

Based on these posts, I think they've lost that chance.

>>> Other ideas?
>>
>> I'm still liking the dump the Adagio tea, and fill the tins with
>> good teas idea, mostly because I think the IngenuiTea is such a
>> great gift, and those little tins have a very high cuteness factor.
>> But I'm still thinking...
>
> Okay, neighbor called and was a whole lot less disturbed by the
> prospect than I was...turns out that she recently received an order
> from Upton (YESSSSS! My attempt to convert her from teabags is a

Congratulations!

> success!) of EG, EB, Irish Breakfast, and Scottish Breakfast and will
> simply dump the Adagio and refill w/ Upton's, scratching out the
> Yunnan and writing in SB or making her own label if she gets a round
> tuit.

Or... if the Upton site ever works again, she can order sample sizes and
then her mother would not only get the very cute little canisters, but
also samples saying they were packed just for her! This gift is getting
better by the second. Heck... it's almost worth all new wrapping paper
and everything!

> Thanks - I'll pass the ideas on how to open the gift w/o tearing the
> paper on to her.

Just don't let my mother see this...

Resa

"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/20/2005 7:59 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>
> >> This is easy... use a razor blade, or utility knife, and the tape
> >> will easily give way. Refrigerate, or leave outside if cold enough,
> >> and you may be able to just gently tug. Not that I've ever done
> >> this with presents as a child, mind you... (whistling innocently)
> >
> > LOL - instead of sneaking into a present as a recepient, we're
> > plotting to sneak into a gift as a giver. How perverted is that?
>
> Well, it puts it in the really good, and not something to feel at all
> guilty about category, which is a very nice change!! It went from bad
> thing to terrific thing - pretty amazing!

"All things work together for good..."

> >> Right now, I'm searching google looking for positive posts about
> >> Adagio teas. But, even if it's just that the sample tins are really
> >> old... that makes me think twice about Adagio teas. They should
> >> know better - if anything, this should be their BEST tea!
> >
> > Yes, especially because the whole point is to get someone to buy
> > their loose teas.
>
> Based on these posts, I think they've lost that chance.

Yes, while I didn't have any qualms about recommending the IngenuiTea to
her - I was thinking for her own use since she's been using a Pyrex cup -
I'm not about to recommend their teas to anyone, now.

> > Okay, neighbor called and was a whole lot less disturbed by the
> > prospect than I was...turns out that she recently received an order
> > from Upton (YESSSSS! My attempt to convert her from teabags is a
>
> Congratulations!

<doffing hat and bowing> Thank you!

> Or... if the Upton site ever works again, she can order sample sizes and
> then her mother would not only get the very cute little canisters, but
> also samples saying they were packed just for her! This gift is getting
> better by the second. Heck... it's almost worth all new wrapping paper
> and everything!

That's a good idea. I gave a girlfriend a tin of white for Christmas and
when she read her name on the label, she was speechless...for a moment,
anyway ;).

> > Thanks - I'll pass the ideas on how to open the gift w/o tearing the
> > paper on to her.
>
> Just don't let my mother see this...

And her email addy is...?

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On 2/20/2005 8:49 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> "Serendip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I'm so sorry to hear this, Douglas, but thank you for the post - I was
>> planning on ordering that starter set today. I don't really *need* the
>> Aria, but it would be helpful when I only want one cup, as if putting
>> less water in the teapot is a chore. If I still get this, I'll know that
>> I'm doing it for the little tins and the brewer, and won't count on the
>> tea.
>
> Or, get the pot alone and save $4.

I'm thinking there's another option - asking Adagio to explain the
totally useless tea. There's the off chance that they use a distribution
center for shipping, and don't know that stale tea is being shipped.

> Upton has little tins for sale. I was going to look at them, but got a
> dnserror because it couldn't find uptontea.com. Do you happen to recall
> exactly when they were going to change servers? I'm wondering if it got
> delayed to now.

I think it was either the 16th or 17th, and when I was connected
earlier, the front page said something like, "Congratulations! This
means you have found us at our new server..." which made me think it had
happened. The pages were loading lightening fast at first, so I think
they did change servers, only not well. Sniffle.

"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/20/2005 8:49 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> >
> > Or, get the pot alone and save $4.
>
> I'm thinking there's another option - asking Adagio to explain the
> totally useless tea. There's the off chance that they use a distribution
> center for shipping, and don't know that stale tea is being shipped.

If everyone's dumping the tea, saving the tins, and saying "oh, well, at
least the teapot's good," that's very possible.

> > Upton has little tins for sale. I was going to look at them, but got a
> > dnserror because it couldn't find uptontea.com. Do you happen to recall
> > exactly when they were going to change servers? I'm wondering if it got
> > delayed to now.
>
> I think it was either the 16th or 17th, and when I was connected
> earlier, the front page said something like, "Congratulations! This
> means you have found us at our new server..." which made me think it had
> happened. The pages were loading lightening fast at first, so I think
> they did change servers, only not well. Sniffle.

I just tried again and still got an error. Pro'lly hasn't propagated to my
neck of the woods, yet. Sometimes, dns changes take a couple or more days to
get around the 'net so, will simply have to try again, later.

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On 2/20/2005 9:12 PM, Bluesea wrote:

>> I'm thinking there's another option - asking Adagio to explain the
>> totally useless tea. There's the off chance that they use a distribution
>> center for shipping, and don't know that stale tea is being shipped.
>
> If everyone's dumping the tea, saving the tins, and saying "oh, well, at
> least the teapot's good," that's very possible.

*IF* I end up ordering the kit, and get lousy tea... I promise they will
hear about it. Politely, of course, but they will hear about it.

>> I think it was either the 16th or 17th, and when I was connected
>> earlier, the front page said something like, "Congratulations! This
>> means you have found us at our new server..." which made me think it had
>> happened. The pages were loading lightening fast at first, so I think
>> they did change servers, only not well. Sniffle.
>
> I just tried again and still got an error. Pro'lly hasn't propagated to my
> neck of the woods, yet. Sometimes, dns changes take a couple or more days to
> get around the 'net so, will simply have to try again, later.

I think Upton *is* blaming me... now my connection is outright refused!

"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/20/2005 9:12 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>
> > If everyone's dumping the tea, saving the tins, and saying "oh, well, at
> > least the teapot's good," that's very possible.
>
> *IF* I end up ordering the kit, and get lousy tea... I promise they will
> hear about it. Politely, of course, but they will hear about it.

Yes, I'm planning to let them know if my samples are stale, also.

> I think Upton *is* blaming me... now my connection is outright refused!

<snickering> May as well go make yourself a cuppa. I need a refill, myself.

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On 2/20/2005 9:02 PM, Bluesea wrote:

>> Well, it puts it in the really good, and not something to feel at all
>> guilty about category, which is a very nice change!! It went from bad
>> thing to terrific thing - pretty amazing!
>
> "All things work together for good..."

May I quote you if I need to put this into action regarding incoming,
rather than outgoing, gift?

>> > Okay, neighbor called and was a whole lot less disturbed by the
>> > prospect than I was...turns out that she recently received an order
>> > from Upton (YESSSSS! My attempt to convert her from teabags is a
>>
>> Congratulations!
>
> <doffing hat and bowing> Thank you!

You're welcome! <curtseying>

>> Or... if the Upton site ever works again, she can order sample sizes and
>> then her mother would not only get the very cute little canisters, but
>> also samples saying they were packed just for her! This gift is getting
>> better by the second. Heck... it's almost worth all new wrapping paper
>> and everything!
>
> That's a good idea. I gave a girlfriend a tin of white for Christmas and
> when she read her name on the label, she was speechless...for a moment,
> anyway ;).

All it takes is forethought, personalization proving the forethought,
and a tin or two, and we're happy. Kinda.

>> > Thanks - I'll pass the ideas on how to open the gift w/o tearing the
>> > paper on to her.
>>
>> Just don't let my mother see this...
>
> And her email addy is...?

Totally protected. It's for her own safety... really. She sees the good
in people, and would be horrified to learn that someone lost millions of
dollars, and only needs a small sum from her to get it back.

Oh - if I handled the sanitation correctly - CYE.

"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 2/20/2005 9:02 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>
> >> Well, it puts it in the really good, and not something to feel at all
> >> guilty about category, which is a very nice change!! It went from bad
> >> thing to terrific thing - pretty amazing!
> >
> > "All things work together for good..."
>
> May I quote you if I need to put this into action regarding incoming,
> rather than outgoing, gift?

Oh, sure but it's not mine. It's out of the Bible, Romans 8:28. The full
verse (King James Version) is:

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
to them who are the called according to his purpose."

Is there anyway you can attribute it to your parents or other relatives,
maybe older siblings in whose care you were left?

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not
depart from it."

That's Proverbs 22:6 and should put the monkey squarely on someone else's
back for leading you astray when you were young.

> > That's a good idea. I gave a girlfriend a tin of white for Christmas and
> > when she read her name on the label, she was speechless...for a moment,
> > anyway ;).
>
> All it takes is forethought, personalization proving the forethought,
> and a tin or two, and we're happy. Kinda.

<snickering>

> >> > Thanks - I'll pass the ideas on how to open the gift w/o tearing the
> >> > paper on to her.
> >>
> >> Just don't let my mother see this...
> >
> > And her email addy is...?
>
> Totally protected.

Aw, shucks ;).

> It's for her own safety... really. She sees the good
> in people, and would be horrified to learn that someone lost millions of
> dollars, and only needs a small sum from her to get it back.

Yes, you done good.

> Oh - if I handled the sanitation correctly - CYE.

"If" - such a little word with such large ramifications.

Well, I gotta go get that refill.

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On 2/20/2005 9:41 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>> > "All things work together for good..."
>>
>> May I quote you if I need to put this into action regarding incoming,
>> rather than outgoing, gift?
>
> Oh, sure but it's not mine. It's out of the Bible, Romans 8:28. The full
> verse (King James Version) is:
>
> "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
> to them who are the called according to his purpose."

Yes, but one cannot get attempt such a task AND quote the Bible,
claiming it is okay. One CAN try to quote someone from a newsgroup, and
be believed.

> Is there anyway you can attribute it to your parents or other relatives,
> maybe older siblings in whose care you were left?
>
> "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not
> depart from it."
>
> That's Proverbs 22:6 and should put the monkey squarely on someone else's
> back for leading you astray when you were young.

Err....umm.... I was taught to be inquisitive and gentle... that might
work!

>> It's for her own safety... really. She sees the good
>> in people, and would be horrified to learn that someone lost millions of
>> dollars, and only needs a small sum from her to get it back.
>
> Yes, you done good.

I try.

>> Oh - if I handled the sanitation correctly - CYE.
>
> "If" - such a little word with such large ramifications.

LOL! IF not... someone else is reading a post, and totally confused. I'm
thinking I got it right - I seem to have just been dumped from a group I
mentioned in that e! So it goes.

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:22:39 -0500, Serendip
> wrote:

>*IF* I end up ordering the kit, and get lousy tea... I promise they will
>hear about it. Politely, of course, but they will hear about it.

Maybe they don't rotate their stock and what I got had been on the
shelf a long time
--
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Bluesea wrote:
> May I ask which teas you received samples of and which of those were
stale?
> I ordered some samples for myself that weren't in any of the starter
sets
> and I'm curious.


Their cheapest darjeeling and formosa oolong were decent, but then I
decided to try the premium versions of these. So, it was the darjeeling
no. 2 and whatever their other formosa oolong is. And let me tell you,
they weren't just not fresh, they were either very old, stored
improperly, or both. I REALLY liked their ceylon, but getting 2 stale
teas in one order is enough to keep me from buying tea from them again.

On 2/21/2005 6:49 AM, Douglas wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:22:39 -0500, Serendip
> > wrote:
>
>>*IF* I end up ordering the kit, and get lousy tea... I promise they will
>>hear about it. Politely, of course, but they will hear about it.
>
> Maybe they don't rotate their stock and what I got had been on the
> shelf a long time

I'm not sure I like that it's luck of the draw any better. Are you going
to contact them?

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:46:41 -0500, Serendip
> wrote:

>I'm not sure I like that it's luck of the draw any better. Are you going
>to contact them?

Yes very soon.
--
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Hmm. Adagio's darjeeling #2 is one of my favorite teas. Admittedly it
has been quite some time since I purchased a sampler of it. The
cannisters that Adagio uses for larger orders are more air-tight than
the ones they use for samplers. I don't know how far in advance either
is packaged.


In article .com>,
"Josh" > wrote:
....
> So, it was the darjeeling
> no. 2 and whatever their other formosa oolong is. And let me tell you,
> they weren't just not fresh, they were either very old, stored
> improperly, or both. ...

"Josh" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Bluesea wrote:
> > May I ask which teas you received samples of and which of those were
> stale?
> > I ordered some samples for myself that weren't in any of the starter
> sets
> > and I'm curious.
>
> Their cheapest darjeeling and formosa oolong were decent, but then I
> decided to try the premium versions of these. So, it was the darjeeling
> no. 2 and whatever their other formosa oolong is. And let me tell you,
> they weren't just not fresh, they were either very old, stored
> improperly, or both. I REALLY liked their ceylon, but getting 2 stale
> teas in one order is enough to keep me from buying tea from them again.

Yup, that Darjeeling #2's on my list so will be sure to brew it up 1st.
Others I ordered a Apricot Green, Black Currant, Dragonwell, Earl Grey
Green, Keemun Concerto Mao Feng, Pi Lo Chun, and Snow Buds.

Thanks for the feedback.

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"CCCarlisle" > wrote in message
...
> Hmm. Adagio's darjeeling #2 is one of my favorite teas. Admittedly it
> has been quite some time since I purchased a sampler of it. The
> cannisters that Adagio uses for larger orders are more air-tight than
> the ones they use for samplers. I don't know how far in advance either
> is packaged.

Do you buy it regularly? If so, it's good to know that the standard stock is
fresh, but how is one to know that by a stale sample?

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