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Serendip 12-03-2005 03:49 PM

Glass Teapots
 
I have a small (20 ounce) glass teapot (with infuser), and would like to
get a bigger one.

And so it starts...

Bodum Assam (stainless infuser) or Jenaer Mikado? Or one with a
Swissgold infuser? Or the ones that use the "stopbrew" system or
whatever it's called, where it seems that the infuser has something you
turn that covers the holes?

Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
without a potholder?

In a larger pot, does glass keep the tea warm enough? I'm not sure I can
get used to putting clothing (cozy) on my teapot.

It would be easier to stick with my porcelain and stoneware and whatever
they are larger teapots, but I like seeing the water darken and deepen
as it brews, more so than the surprise when I pour it into the cup. What
can I say? Sometimes, I'm easily amused.

Thank you!!

Resa

Eric Jorgensen 12-03-2005 04:16 PM

On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:49:42 -0500
Serendip > wrote:

> I have a small (20 ounce) glass teapot (with infuser), and would like to
> get a bigger one.
>
> And so it starts...
>
> Bodum Assam (stainless infuser) or Jenaer Mikado? Or one with a
> Swissgold infuser? Or the ones that use the "stopbrew" system or
> whatever it's called, where it seems that the infuser has something you
> turn that covers the holes?



There are some who will rally against melior type pots, where you have
a plunger that pushes the leaves into an area without holes. Some say that
this amounts to pressing the tea, but i find that this is only the case if
you've used too many leaves. They are not for everyone. They do, however,
kinda work.

a swissgold or other fine mesh type infuser lets less smaller fannings
through than, for example, bodum's clear plastic infusers or the jenaer
type glass infuser. I find that it's not enough more that it fouls the tea.



> Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
> without a potholder?



I have the 16oz Assam pot with glass handle and plastic melior-type
infuser (among other pots). I have never found the handle to be hot.

Bodum uses borosilicate glass - which means silicon glass made with
boric acid. Other types of glass may have different thermal properties, and
i don't know what jenaer uses.


> In a larger pot, does glass keep the tea warm enough? I'm not sure I can
> get used to putting clothing (cozy) on my teapot.



I never seem to have it around long enough to tell, but i do prefer my
tea to cool off a bit before i drink it. People who prefer scalding hot tea
may be disappointed at my house.


> It would be easier to stick with my porcelain and stoneware and whatever
> they are larger teapots, but I like seeing the water darken and deepen
> as it brews, more so than the surprise when I pour it into the cup. What
> can I say? Sometimes, I'm easily amused.



Yes. I know exactly what you mean.

There is something to be said for having a larger infuser area, if
you're going to use an infuser - a convenience that nearly everyone seems
to prefer. I've sometimes wondered if the bodum pots with extremely large
infusers might be pretty good equipment, but, I have more than enough
teaware at the moment.


Space Cowboy 12-03-2005 05:09 PM

My current 1 liter cylindrical glass pot is a modified tea press. All
you need is a hack saw and plastic wall anchor. You shorten the
plunger arm and push it through the cap secured with the wall anchor.
The stainless steel gill filter only contacts the tea when pouring.
You can use Google and find the modification instructions. I like a
tea press because they rest in their own plastic protective cradle with
convenient handle. You can find them in discount stores in various
sizes with the big ones just $5. I just got a 1.5 liter Asian pot with
coffee pot style handle and infuser for $8.

Jim

Serendip wrote:
> I have a small (20 ounce) glass teapot (with infuser), and would like

to
> get a bigger one.
>
> And so it starts...



Joanne Rosen 12-03-2005 07:32 PM

i enjoy jenaer products-i never use a potholder

you can see a large variety of their products at www.zackusa.com

joanne
"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
>I have a small (20 ounce) glass teapot (with infuser), and would like to
> get a bigger one.
>
> And so it starts...
>
> Bodum Assam (stainless infuser) or Jenaer Mikado? Or one with a
> Swissgold infuser? Or the ones that use the "stopbrew" system or
> whatever it's called, where it seems that the infuser has something you
> turn that covers the holes?
>
> Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
> without a potholder?
>
> In a larger pot, does glass keep the tea warm enough? I'm not sure I can
> get used to putting clothing (cozy) on my teapot.
>
> It would be easier to stick with my porcelain and stoneware and whatever
> they are larger teapots, but I like seeing the water darken and deepen
> as it brews, more so than the surprise when I pour it into the cup. What
> can I say? Sometimes, I'm easily amused.
>
> Thank you!!
>
> Resa




Bluesea 12-03-2005 10:59 PM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> I have a small (20 ounce) glass teapot (with infuser), and would like to
> get a bigger one.
>
> And so it starts...
>
> Bodum Assam (stainless infuser) or Jenaer Mikado? Or one with a
> Swissgold infuser? Or the ones that use the "stopbrew" system or
> whatever it's called, where it seems that the infuser has something you
> turn that covers the holes?


If you decide on the Mikado, I highly recommend the Gold w/ the Swissgold
infuser because the regular glass infusers are, IMO, a PITA allowing rooibos
and other leaf particles to escape and/or plug up the slits which must be
cleared with something like a toothbrush. The Swissgold, OTOH, is more like
a Chatsford or Teeli basket providing better circulation (16 slits in the
glass infuser vs. all those holes), a cleaner beverage, and easier clean-up.

> Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
> without a potholder?


Yes!

> In a larger pot, does glass keep the tea warm enough? I'm not sure I can
> get used to putting clothing (cozy) on my teapot.


YMwillV depending on how fast you drink and how warm/cool you like your tea.
Using a candle warmer will light your tea from below and look really good as
the flame wavers.

> It would be easier to stick with my porcelain and stoneware and whatever
> they are larger teapots, but I like seeing the water darken and deepen
> as it brews, more so than the surprise when I pour it into the cup. What
> can I say? Sometimes, I'm easily amused.


Yup. Loose tea provides great visual entertainment. Cheap thrills :D.

Since you're going to glass for the visual, I suggest that you also
ascertain how each teapot under consideration aids/hinders your view of the
agony of the leaves which can be fascinating.

For the Mikado Gold and warmer, I found the lowest prices at adagio.com.
Their St. Patrick's Day Pot of Gold special includes a 4 oz tin of Irish
Breakfast.

For other Mikado teapots, the prices are lower at zackusa.com. I advise
against the small Mikado because the useable capacity isn't that much
greater than your 20 oz-er.

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Dog Ma 1 13-03-2005 02:03 AM

> > Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
> > without a potholder?

> I have the 16oz Assam pot with glass handle and plastic melior-type
> infuser (among other pots). I have never found the handle to be hot.
> Bodum uses borosilicate glass - which means silicon glass made with
> boric acid. Other types of glass may have different thermal properties


To a fair approximation, all consumer glasses have the same thermal
conductivity. In fact, almost all ceramics are pretty close if normalized
for density (i.e., voids). They make special ones for heat removal in
microchips, lasers, etc., but they are so expensive that you won't see them
in teapots any time soon. On the other side, most things are pretty good
insulators; even most metals other than the coinage metals make good
handles.

The thing to watch for is design. the little glass pots I like have hollow
handles into which the hot water flows, making them instantly too hot to
touch. So go solid and keep cool.

-DM



[email protected] 13-03-2005 04:53 PM

On 3/12/2005 11:09 AM, Space Cowboy wrote:
> My current 1 liter cylindrical glass pot is a modified tea press. All
> you need is a hack saw and plastic wall anchor. You shorten the
> plunger arm and push it through the cap secured with the wall anchor.
> The stainless steel gill filter only contacts the tea when pouring.
> You can use Google and find the modification instructions. I like a
> tea press because they rest in their own plastic protective cradle with
> convenient handle. You can find them in discount stores in various
> sizes with the big ones just $5. I just got a 1.5 liter Asian pot with
> coffee pot style handle and infuser for $8.
>
> Jim


Found it at google groups and copied it - thanks!

Resa

Serendip 13-03-2005 04:55 PM

On 3/12/2005 8:03 PM, Dog Ma 1 wrote:
>> > Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
>> > without a potholder?

>> I have the 16oz Assam pot with glass handle and plastic melior-type
>> infuser (among other pots). I have never found the handle to be hot.
>> Bodum uses borosilicate glass - which means silicon glass made with
>> boric acid. Other types of glass may have different thermal properties

>
> To a fair approximation, all consumer glasses have the same thermal
> conductivity. In fact, almost all ceramics are pretty close if normalized
> for density (i.e., voids). They make special ones for heat removal in
> microchips, lasers, etc., but they are so expensive that you won't see them
> in teapots any time soon. On the other side, most things are pretty good
> insulators; even most metals other than the coinage metals make good
> handles.
>
> The thing to watch for is design. the little glass pots I like have hollow
> handles into which the hot water flows, making them instantly too hot to
> touch. So go solid and keep cool.
>
> -DM



Thanks - I think I'm thinking of just that - a mug I had that was quite
fun to watch because the glass handle was hollow, but a horror to hold
with hot beverages. And seeing so many glass teapots with plastic, etc
handles, made me wonder. Solid - got it!

Resa


Serendip 13-03-2005 04:55 PM

On 3/12/2005 1:32 PM, Joanne Rosen wrote:
> i enjoy jenaer products-i never use a potholder
>
> you can see a large variety of their products at www.zackusa.com
>
> joanne


Bookmarked - thanks!

Resa

Serendip 13-03-2005 05:03 PM

On 3/12/2005 10:16 AM, Eric Jorgensen wrote:

> There are some who will rally against melior type pots, where you have
> a plunger that pushes the leaves into an area without holes. Some say that
> this amounts to pressing the tea, but i find that this is only the case if
> you've used too many leaves. They are not for everyone. They do, however,
> kinda work.


LOL - I like the "kinda work". They kinda look fun, too. Is a press that
is marketed as a "coffee press" the same mesh as one marketed as a "tea
press" - I saw some Swissgold "coffee" presses that looked fun.

> a swissgold or other fine mesh type infuser lets less smaller fannings
> through than, for example, bodum's clear plastic infusers or the jenaer
> type glass infuser. I find that it's not enough more that it fouls the tea.


In some ways, it's good being so new at this - I don't know if I'd know
the difference... yet.

>> Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
>> without a potholder?


> I have the 16oz Assam pot with glass handle and plastic melior-type
> infuser (among other pots). I have never found the handle to be hot.


Thanks.

> Bodum uses borosilicate glass - which means silicon glass made with
> boric acid. Other types of glass may have different thermal properties, and
> i don't know what jenaer uses.


Got it - thinking of "pyrex" now, and how boiling water in a measuring
cup doesn't make the handle hot.

>> It would be easier to stick with my porcelain and stoneware and whatever
>> they are larger teapots, but I like seeing the water darken and deepen
>> as it brews, more so than the surprise when I pour it into the cup. What
>> can I say? Sometimes, I'm easily amused.


> Yes. I know exactly what you mean.
>
> There is something to be said for having a larger infuser area, if
> you're going to use an infuser - a convenience that nearly everyone seems
> to prefer. I've sometimes wondered if the bodum pots with extremely large
> infusers might be pretty good equipment, but, I have more than enough
> teaware at the moment.


Sigh... which means the next step will be letting the leaves run wild in
the pot, and using a strainer post-spout. Hmmm... I have some of those
contraptions.

Thanks!

Serendip 13-03-2005 05:09 PM

On 3/12/2005 4:59 PM, Bluesea wrote:

> If you decide on the Mikado, I highly recommend the Gold w/ the Swissgold
> infuser because the regular glass infusers are, IMO, a PITA allowing rooibos
> and other leaf particles to escape and/or plug up the slits which must be
> cleared with something like a toothbrush. The Swissgold, OTOH, is more like
> a Chatsford or Teeli basket providing better circulation (16 slits in the
> glass infuser vs. all those holes), a cleaner beverage, and easier clean-up.


Good to know - thanks!

>> Glass handles - do they really stay cooler enough that you can hold them
>> without a potholder?

>
> Yes!


Yay! There's even a total consensus on this! :)

>> In a larger pot, does glass keep the tea warm enough? I'm not sure I can
>> get used to putting clothing (cozy) on my teapot.

>
> YMwillV depending on how fast you drink and how warm/cool you like your tea.
> Using a candle warmer will light your tea from below and look really good as
> the flame wavers.


ARGGGGGH! One more tea accessory to "need" - I definitely need a bigger
kitchen, or need to start tossing things that aren't related to tea!

>> It would be easier to stick with my porcelain and stoneware and whatever
>> they are larger teapots, but I like seeing the water darken and deepen
>> as it brews, more so than the surprise when I pour it into the cup. What
>> can I say? Sometimes, I'm easily amused.

>
> Yup. Loose tea provides great visual entertainment. Cheap thrills :D.


Then you add in the candle warmer, for the surround-sound equivalent.

> Since you're going to glass for the visual, I suggest that you also
> ascertain how each teapot under consideration aids/hinders your view of the
> agony of the leaves which can be fascinating.


Which is going to be difficult, since there's no place to see these up
close and personal here. And web "zoom" photos do only so much. But,
there's always the option I mentioned elsewhere, of letting the leaves
run free, and strain as I pour.

> For the Mikado Gold and warmer, I found the lowest prices at adagio.com.
> Their St. Patrick's Day Pot of Gold special includes a 4 oz tin of Irish
> Breakfast.
> For other Mikado teapots, the prices are lower at zackusa.com. I advise
> against the small Mikado because the useable capacity isn't that much
> greater than your 20 oz-er.


Thanks!!


Serendip 13-03-2005 05:19 PM

Thank you so much for the advice and suggestions!

Having been to dozens of sites, I came across one (Ebay seller, maybe?)
that said that Schott has stopped manufacturing the Jenaer glass
teapots, etc. Since many places were out of stock, it seemed plausible,
and non-buyer's remorse can be more painful than the opposite. I can get
the Bodum later...

I ordered the Mikado Gold from Adagio along with the IngenuiTEA - why
not get the credit card pain over with at once? And since this is almost
all glass (some samples, too) even I know this has to be shipped slowly
and safely!

Now, back to Pettigrew's "Tea Companion" (the library insisted I return
their copy, which was the original volume) which finally arrived
yesterday. Anyone else notice that since Amazon announced the "subscribe
for 'free' 2 day shipping" that they are holding the over "$25 free
shipping" orders much longer before releasing? Sigh...

Again, thanks!!

Resa

Bluesea 13-03-2005 06:23 PM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/12/2005 4:59 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>
> > If you decide on the Mikado, I highly recommend the Gold w/ the

Swissgold
> > infuser because the regular glass infusers are, IMO, a PITA allowing

rooibos
> > and other leaf particles to escape and/or plug up the slits which must

be
> > cleared with something like a toothbrush. The Swissgold, OTOH, is more

like
> > a Chatsford or Teeli basket providing better circulation (16 slits in

the
> > glass infuser vs. all those holes), a cleaner beverage, and easier

clean-up.
>
> Good to know - thanks!


Mind you, rooibos will get stuck wherever it may, but it won't clog up the
works like it can with the slits of a glass infuser and for cleaning, you
can just use your fingers to rub them out and won't need to use a brush.

> > Since you're going to glass for the visual, I suggest that you also
> > ascertain how each teapot under consideration aids/hinders your view of

the
> > agony of the leaves which can be fascinating.

>
> Which is going to be difficult, since there's no place to see these up
> close and personal here. And web "zoom" photos do only so much.


Just figure that if there's a handle or something else that covers,
especially the bottom, you won't be able to see well.

> But,
> there's always the option I mentioned elsewhere, of letting the leaves
> run free, and strain as I pour.


That really is the best both for the brewing and for the visual
entertainment. With a multiple-serving-sized pot, however, you'll want to
strain into another pot to avoid oversteeping while you enjoy your first
cup. For herbals, you don't have to strain into another pot because the brew
won't get bitter, only somewhat stronger which many people don't find
objectionable - but again, YMMV.

> Thanks!!


You're welcome :).

--
~~Bluesea~~
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Serendip 13-03-2005 07:14 PM

On 3/13/2005 12:23 PM, Bluesea wrote:

> Mind you, rooibos will get stuck wherever it may, but it won't clog
> up the works like it can with the slits of a glass infuser and for
> cleaning, you can just use your fingers to rub them out and won't
> need to use a brush.


I just ordered my first rooibos sample (Adagio) - it's rooibos almond. I
have no idea if I will like almond flavored tea, but it was the highest
rated, so thought I'd give it a try.

>>> Since you're going to glass for the visual, I suggest that you
>>> also ascertain how each teapot under consideration aids/hinders
>>> your view of the
>>> agony of the leaves which can be fascinating.

>>
>> Which is going to be difficult, since there's no place to see these
>> up close and personal here. And web "zoom" photos do only so much.

>
> Just figure that if there's a handle or something else that covers,
> especially the bottom, you won't be able to see well.


I think it's going to be like watching fish swim in a round fish bowl,
with a (hopefully!) better aroma.

>> But, there's always the option I mentioned elsewhere, of letting
>> the leaves run free, and strain as I pour.

>
> That really is the best both for the brewing and for the visual
> entertainment. With a multiple-serving-sized pot, however, you'll
> want to strain into another pot to avoid oversteeping while you enjoy
> your first cup. For herbals, you don't have to strain into another
> pot because the brew won't get bitter, only somewhat stronger which
> many people don't find objectionable - but again, YMMV.


Thanks for the reminder to strain into another pot - I seem to have a
good tolerance for the tannins in tea, but not *that* good!

BTW, have you seen the teapot that suits the pen and tea obsessions
colliding? I don't want to attach a photo to this post, so will see if I
can find a link somewhere. Oh, here... http://tinyurl.com/6zu8t

Resa

Melinda 14-03-2005 01:39 AM



--
"The country has entered an era in which
questions are not asked, for questions are
daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both
fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout
"Serendip" > wrote in message
...

>


> BTW, have you seen the teapot that suits the pen and tea obsessions
> colliding? I don't want to attach a photo to this post, so will see if I
> can find a link somewhere. Oh, here... http://tinyurl.com/6zu8t
>
> Resa



Oh that is just TOO cute....(I have a couple of Waterman Laureats, so while
I'm not a big hobbiest I have a little connection) That is great, :D

Melinda



Bluesea 14-03-2005 08:31 PM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you so much for the advice and suggestions!
>
> Having been to dozens of sites, I came across one (Ebay seller, maybe?)
> that said that Schott has stopped manufacturing the Jenaer glass
> teapots, etc. Since many places were out of stock, it seemed plausible,
> and non-buyer's remorse can be more painful than the opposite.


At the latter part of last month, I decided to buy a Jenaer Duo from
wayneteasalon.com which arrived broken (Adagio packs their glassware
much better!). She was going to replace it out of her arriving order, but
when she received it, no Duo. So, she refunded my cc and I ordered it from
eteapots.com which had been out, but they received a new shipment in the
meantime. (It was delivered to me intact.)

So, now I go to Zackusa thinking that maybe I better get that large Mikado
that I was thinking about and Holy Crap! they've raised the price by $10
along with the prices of some of the other items by Jenaer, some of which
have doubled...

The press release at
http://www.us.schott.com/english/new...s.html?NID=120, dated
01-26-2005, says in part:

"SCHOTT Jenaer Glas GmbH finds itself compelled to terminate production of
consumer glassware in Jena (Germany) by March 31, 2005. Sales of Jenaer
Glass by SCHOTT North America, Inc. will continue until the end of calendar
year 2005."


If anyone's been thinking about getting a Jenaer, may as well get it while
the getting's still good.


--
~~Bluesea~~ shopping for scales
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Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply.



Bluesea 14-03-2005 08:38 PM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/13/2005 12:23 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>
> I just ordered my first rooibos sample (Adagio) - it's rooibos almond. I
> have no idea if I will like almond flavored tea, but it was the highest
> rated, so thought I'd give it a try.
>


> Thanks for the reminder to strain into another pot - I seem to have a
> good tolerance for the tannins in tea, but not *that* good!


If you find that you need to use the warmer, you'll have to clear out the
leaves and pour back into the glass teapot to be able to enjoy the color.

> BTW, have you seen the teapot that suits the pen and tea obsessions
> colliding? I don't want to attach a photo to this post, so will see if I
> can find a link somewhere. Oh, here... http://tinyurl.com/6zu8t


This is great. No, I hadn't seen it and when I did, I did a double-take
because it looks so much like my bottle of blue Quink. Thanks for sharing
:).

--
~~Bluesea~~
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Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply.



Joanne Rosen 15-03-2005 12:33 AM

in addition, i would like to add roden intl has taken over zackusa-my son
is vacationing in hollywood, florida and stopped into the shop
they were not very helpful-
but my gut feeling is to buy up any jenaer products u enjoy-
joanne
"Bluesea" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Serendip" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Thank you so much for the advice and suggestions!
>>
>> Having been to dozens of sites, I came across one (Ebay seller, maybe?)
>> that said that Schott has stopped manufacturing the Jenaer glass
>> teapots, etc. Since many places were out of stock, it seemed plausible,
>> and non-buyer's remorse can be more painful than the opposite.

>
> At the latter part of last month, I decided to buy a Jenaer Duo from
> wayneteasalon.com which arrived broken (Adagio packs their glassware
> much better!). She was going to replace it out of her arriving order, but
> when she received it, no Duo. So, she refunded my cc and I ordered it from
> eteapots.com which had been out, but they received a new shipment in the
> meantime. (It was delivered to me intact.)
>
> So, now I go to Zackusa thinking that maybe I better get that large Mikado
> that I was thinking about and Holy Crap! they've raised the price by $10
> along with the prices of some of the other items by Jenaer, some of which
> have doubled...
>
> The press release at
> http://www.us.schott.com/english/new...s.html?NID=120, dated
> 01-26-2005, says in part:
>
> "SCHOTT Jenaer Glas GmbH finds itself compelled to terminate production of
> consumer glassware in Jena (Germany) by March 31, 2005. Sales of Jenaer
> Glass by SCHOTT North America, Inc. will continue until the end of
> calendar
> year 2005."
>
>
> If anyone's been thinking about getting a Jenaer, may as well get it while
> the getting's still good.
>
>
> --
> ~~Bluesea~~ shopping for scales
> Spam is great in musubi but not in email.
> Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply.
>
>




Bluesea 15-03-2005 12:48 AM


"Joanne Rosen" > wrote in message
...
> in addition, i would like to add roden intl has taken over zackusa...


Do you happen to know when Roden took over Zackusa? I'm wondering if that's
the reason for the price jump which occurred since I checked prices last
month.

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Joanne Rosen 15-03-2005 12:55 AM

no-i don't know when roden intl took over the jenaer/ schot operation
joanne
"Bluesea" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Joanne Rosen" > wrote in message
> ...
>> in addition, i would like to add roden intl has taken over zackusa...

>
> Do you happen to know when Roden took over Zackusa? I'm wondering if
> that's
> the reason for the price jump which occurred since I checked prices last
> month.
>
> --
> ~~Bluesea~~
> Spam is great in musubi but not in email.
> Please take out the trash before sending a direct reply.
>
>




Serendip 15-03-2005 01:13 AM

On 3/14/2005 2:31 PM, Bluesea wrote:

>> Having been to dozens of sites, I came across one (Ebay seller, maybe?)
>> that said that Schott has stopped manufacturing the Jenaer glass
>> teapots, etc. Since many places were out of stock, it seemed plausible,
>> and non-buyer's remorse can be more painful than the opposite.

>
> The press release at
> http://www.us.schott.com/english/new...s.html?NID=120, dated
> 01-26-2005, says in part:
>
> "SCHOTT Jenaer Glas GmbH finds itself compelled to terminate production of
> consumer glassware in Jena (Germany) by March 31, 2005. Sales of Jenaer
> Glass by SCHOTT North America, Inc. will continue until the end of calendar
> year 2005."
>
>
> If anyone's been thinking about getting a Jenaer, may as well get it while
> the getting's still good.



Sigh. Searching google groups for the posts about glass tea *kettles*...

Looks like the Adagio package may get here tomorrow. YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAA! I
mean, how nice....



Serendip 15-03-2005 01:14 AM

It's even cuter in person. <whistling innocently> :)

Serendip 15-03-2005 01:16 AM

On 3/14/2005 2:38 PM, Bluesea wrote:

>> Thanks for the reminder to strain into another pot - I seem to have a
>> good tolerance for the tannins in tea, but not *that* good!

>
> If you find that you need to use the warmer, you'll have to clear out the
> leaves and pour back into the glass teapot to be able to enjoy the color.


It may be worth the view!

>> BTW, have you seen the teapot that suits the pen and tea obsessions
>> colliding? I don't want to attach a photo to this post, so will see if I
>> can find a link somewhere. Oh, here... http://tinyurl.com/6zu8t

>
> This is great. No, I hadn't seen it and when I did, I did a double-take
> because it looks so much like my bottle of blue Quink. Thanks for sharing
> :).


I have a vintage Quink quart bottle, in the box. The teapot is perched
on top of it. Any cuter, it would be nauseating! :)

Bluesea 15-03-2005 01:56 AM


"Joanne Rosen" > wrote in message
...
> no-i don't know when roden intl took over the jenaer/ schot operation


Weel, I just googled and found a page that was copyrighted last year that
said to contact Roden for Jenaer products in the USA, so it must have been
before this year or maybe Roden's owned the zackusa.com domain all along.

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Bluesea 15-03-2005 02:04 AM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
>
> Sigh. Searching google groups for the posts about glass tea *kettles*...


Back when I was thinking about getting a different kettle, ("Kettles"
thread, 2/10/05), I found the following comment at Adagio that made me stop
because the handle of my current S/S kettle doesn't get hot and I don't need
to be careful with the lid:

"I'm 50/50 about this. I like: easy to clean, can see the water about to
boil, comfortable to fill and hold. Dislikes: handle can get hot, lid gets
very hot (take it off before pouring--it has fallen off onto my
hand--ouch!), doesn't have a whistle. I continue to use it because it's as
good as most of the rest, but will still look for the perfect kettle. --
Ellen 12/12/04"

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Bluesea 15-03-2005 02:09 AM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/14/2005 2:38 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>
> >> BTW, have you seen the teapot that suits the pen and tea obsessions
> >> colliding? I don't want to attach a photo to this post, so will see if

I
> >> can find a link somewhere. Oh, here... http://tinyurl.com/6zu8t

> >
> > This is great. No, I hadn't seen it and when I did, I did a double-take
> > because it looks so much like my bottle of blue Quink. Thanks for

sharing
> > :).

>
> I have a vintage Quink quart bottle, in the box. The teapot is perched
> on top of it. Any cuter, it would be nauseating! :)


Kewl!

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Bluesea 15-03-2005 02:12 AM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
>
> I have a vintage Quink quart bottle, in the box. The teapot is perched
> on top of it. Any cuter, it would be nauseating! :)


Have you ever used the teapot? How does it pour, drippy or nearly dripless?

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Bluesea 15-03-2005 07:39 PM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
>
> Sigh. Searching google groups for the posts about glass tea *kettles*...


It's occurred to me that if you get a glass kettle, you could heat the
water, turn off/remove from the heat, dump/stir in your tea leaves, steep,
and then strain into your glass teapot. That way, you'll have visual
entertainment all the way through and eliminate a step in the process. Also,
in Jenaer kettle, the steep time *might* be sufficient to let the lid
and handle cool enough to handle w/o a pot holder.

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Serendip 16-03-2005 03:47 PM

On 3/14/2005 8:12 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> "Serendip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I have a vintage Quink quart bottle, in the box. The teapot is perched
>> on top of it. Any cuter, it would be nauseating! :)

>
> Have you ever used the teapot? How does it pour, drippy or nearly dripless?


I haven't used the teapot, so filled it with water. Dripless - it's a
great spout. However, and it's a BIG however in terms of actually using
it for tea, you have to take the lid off to pour, or it falls off. And
it's not possible to hold it on with your thumb, since it's too "thick"
to do while holding the handle.


Serendip 16-03-2005 03:47 PM

On 3/14/2005 8:04 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> "Serendip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Sigh. Searching google groups for the posts about glass tea *kettles*...

>
> Back when I was thinking about getting a different kettle, ("Kettles"
> thread, 2/10/05), I found the following comment at Adagio that made me stop
> because the handle of my current S/S kettle doesn't get hot and I don't need
> to be careful with the lid:
>
> "I'm 50/50 about this. I like: easy to clean, can see the water about to
> boil, comfortable to fill and hold. Dislikes: handle can get hot, lid gets
> very hot (take it off before pouring--it has fallen off onto my
> hand--ouch!), doesn't have a whistle. I continue to use it because it's as
> good as most of the rest, but will still look for the perfect kettle. --
> Ellen 12/12/04"


Thank you - that's really helpful!

Serendip 16-03-2005 03:53 PM

On 3/15/2005 1:39 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> "Serendip" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Sigh. Searching google groups for the posts about glass tea *kettles*...

>
> It's occurred to me that if you get a glass kettle, you could heat the
> water, turn off/remove from the heat, dump/stir in your tea leaves, steep,
> and then strain into your glass teapot. That way, you'll have visual
> entertainment all the way through and eliminate a step in the process. Also,
> in Jenaer kettle, the steep time *might* be sufficient to let the lid
> and handle cool enough to handle w/o a pot holder.


Thanks - the Mikado is "out for delivery" as I type (YAYAYAYAYAY!) so
I'll see how that works, first. I wish a smaller glass kettle existed -
60 ounces (yes, I know, I don't have to fill it) is huge!

Melinda 16-03-2005 06:26 PM

Serendip...you do realize that (as far as I can tell) the Mikado is NOT for
stovetop use right? It's not a kettle it's a teapot?

Melinda

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"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/15/2005 1:39 PM, Bluesea wrote:
>> "Serendip" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> Sigh. Searching google groups for the posts about glass tea *kettles*...

>>
>> It's occurred to me that if you get a glass kettle, you could heat the
>> water, turn off/remove from the heat, dump/stir in your tea leaves,
>> steep,
>> and then strain into your glass teapot. That way, you'll have visual
>> entertainment all the way through and eliminate a step in the process.
>> Also,
>> in Jenaer kettle, the steep time *might* be sufficient to let the lid
>> and handle cool enough to handle w/o a pot holder.

>
> Thanks - the Mikado is "out for delivery" as I type (YAYAYAYAYAY!) so
> I'll see how that works, first. I wish a smaller glass kettle existed -
> 60 ounces (yes, I know, I don't have to fill it) is huge!




[email protected] 16-03-2005 08:30 PM

On 3/16/2005 12:26 PM, Melinda wrote:
> Serendip...you do realize that (as far as I can tell) the Mikado is NOT for
> stovetop use right? It's not a kettle it's a teapot?
>
> Melinda
>

Thanks, Melinda. Yes, I know the Mikado is a teapot. My comment related
to determining whether there are enough "oohs and ahhs" from watching
the tea in the Mikado, or if I'd want to add it to the already heated
water in a glass kettle, and then decant into a teapot.

Thanks for watching out for me - I appreciate it!! :)

Resa

Melinda 17-03-2005 05:27 AM

Oh I get it...OK, lol...you're welcome. :)

Melinda

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"The country has entered an era in which
questions are not asked, for questions are
daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both
fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout
> wrote in message
...
> On 3/16/2005 12:26 PM, Melinda wrote:
>> Serendip...you do realize that (as far as I can tell) the Mikado is NOT
>> for
>> stovetop use right? It's not a kettle it's a teapot?
>>
>> Melinda
>>

> Thanks, Melinda. Yes, I know the Mikado is a teapot. My comment related
> to determining whether there are enough "oohs and ahhs" from watching
> the tea in the Mikado, or if I'd want to add it to the already heated
> water in a glass kettle, and then decant into a teapot.
>
> Thanks for watching out for me - I appreciate it!! :)
>
> Resa




Melinda 17-03-2005 05:27 AM

Oh I get it...OK, lol...you're welcome. :)

Melinda

--
"The country has entered an era in which
questions are not asked, for questions are
daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both
fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout
> wrote in message
...
> On 3/16/2005 12:26 PM, Melinda wrote:
>> Serendip...you do realize that (as far as I can tell) the Mikado is NOT
>> for
>> stovetop use right? It's not a kettle it's a teapot?
>>
>> Melinda
>>

> Thanks, Melinda. Yes, I know the Mikado is a teapot. My comment related
> to determining whether there are enough "oohs and ahhs" from watching
> the tea in the Mikado, or if I'd want to add it to the already heated
> water in a glass kettle, and then decant into a teapot.
>
> Thanks for watching out for me - I appreciate it!! :)
>
> Resa




Bluesea 22-03-2005 06:03 AM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/14/2005 8:12 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> > "Serendip" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> I have a vintage Quink quart bottle, in the box. The teapot is perched
> >> on top of it. Any cuter, it would be nauseating! :)

> >
> > Have you ever used the teapot? How does it pour, drippy or nearly

dripless?
>
> I haven't used the teapot, so filled it with water. Dripless - it's a
> great spout. However, and it's a BIG however in terms of actually using
> it for tea, you have to take the lid off to pour, or it falls off. And
> it's not possible to hold it on with your thumb, since it's too "thick"
> to do while holding the handle.


Super that it's dripless. Can you use your other hand to hold the lid?
'Cause being able to use it would make it even greater.

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Bluesea 23-03-2005 07:42 PM


"Serendip" > wrote in message
...
> On 3/22/2005 12:03 AM, Bluesea wrote:
> > "Serendip" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 3/14/2005 8:12 PM, Bluesea wrote:
> >> > "Serendip" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a vintage Quink quart bottle, in the box. The teapot is

perched
> >> >> on top of it. Any cuter, it would be nauseating! :)
> >> >
> >> > Have you ever used the teapot? How does it pour, drippy or nearly

> > dripless?
> >>
> >> I haven't used the teapot, so filled it with water. Dripless - it's a
> >> great spout. However, and it's a BIG however in terms of actually using
> >> it for tea, you have to take the lid off to pour, or it falls off. And
> >> it's not possible to hold it on with your thumb, since it's too "thick"
> >> to do while holding the handle.

> >
> > Super that it's dripless. Can you use your other hand to hold the lid?
> > 'Cause being able to use it would make it even greater.

>
> Well, yes, if you want to be technical <vbg> you can do the two-handed
> pour. Keep in mind it's a one-cupper, so it's open for debate whether
> it's more trouble than it's worth, or not too difficult.


Yes, I remembered about it being only a 1 cup and since you started using
the much larger Mikado and have the other small glass pot, you don't have
much reason to use it, but it's nice to know that you could.

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