Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I
drink most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless).
I enjoy chais, some fruity teas (Harney's Ginger Peach Twist and
Upton's Blackberry), some vanilla teas, and lots of spicy teas (Upton's
Christmas Blend, New England Harvest Blend, Orange Spice...). All of
these teas seem to complement milk quite well.
I've even tried flavored green teas with milk; I especially like Argo
Tea's Green Chai and SpecialTea's Green Vanilla. I even (gasp!) once
enjoyed The Republic of Tea's Tea of Inquiry (from a TEABAG, no less!)
with milk.

In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.

With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
extremely cheap.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.

[It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]

3/23/05


> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I
> drink most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless).
> I enjoy chais, some fruity teas (Harney's Ginger Peach Twist and
> Upton's Blackberry), some vanilla teas, and lots of spicy teas (Upton's
> Christmas Blend, New England Harvest Blend, Orange Spice...). All of
> these teas seem to complement milk quite well.
> I've even tried flavored green teas with milk; I especially like Argo
> Tea's Green Chai and SpecialTea's Green Vanilla. I even (gasp!) once
> enjoyed The Republic of Tea's Tea of Inquiry (from a TEABAG, no less!)
> with milk.
>
> In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
> in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
> And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.
>
> With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
> milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
> extremely cheap.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.
>
> [It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]

Yup, somewhat coherent. My mind goes to those green teas that would be
ruined -- I believe most people would agree -- by the addition of milk: Long
Jing, Mao Fang, Bi Lo Chun, and many others. Any black tea could be
assaulted with milk without displeasing everyone, so blacks would not be the
place to go. I would think that most any Oolong, especially those in the
light and medium roasted categories that Jing referred to in another post,
would cring at the thought of milk. So, those are my suggestions -- more
delicate greens and oolongs.

Michael
>

3/23/05


> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I
> drink most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless).
> I enjoy chais, some fruity teas (Harney's Ginger Peach Twist and
> Upton's Blackberry), some vanilla teas, and lots of spicy teas (Upton's
> Christmas Blend, New England Harvest Blend, Orange Spice...). All of
> these teas seem to complement milk quite well.
> I've even tried flavored green teas with milk; I especially like Argo
> Tea's Green Chai and SpecialTea's Green Vanilla. I even (gasp!) once
> enjoyed The Republic of Tea's Tea of Inquiry (from a TEABAG, no less!)
> with milk.
>
> In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
> in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
> And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.
>
> With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
> milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
> extremely cheap.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.
>
> [It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]

Yup, somewhat coherent. My mind goes to those green teas that would be
ruined -- I believe most people would agree -- by the addition of milk: Long
Jing, Mao Fang, Bi Lo Chun, and many others. Any black tea could be
assaulted with milk without displeasing everyone, so blacks would not be the
place to go. I would think that most any Oolong, especially those in the
light and medium roasted categories that Jing referred to in another post,
would cring at the thought of milk. So, those are my suggestions -- more
delicate greens and oolongs.

Michael
>

There are some of us who don't add anything to tea. Just learn to
enjoy the taste of tea perse. It doesn't need anything else.

Jim

Hannah wrote:
....I snip therefore I am...
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.
>
> [It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]

Space 3/23/05


> There are some of us who don't add anything to tea. Just learn to
> enjoy the taste of tea perse. It doesn't need anything else.
>
> Jim


Jim,

In a democracy many things, even ugly things, are not only allowable, but
even protected by law. This is one of democracy's great flaws, some might
say. Sad, but true. People add milk to their vanilla and chocolate flavored
tea, and there is no way to stop them. Wish I had something more cheerful to
report in this regard.

Michael

On 3/23/2005 7:46 AM, Hannah wrote:
> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I
> drink most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless).
> I enjoy chais, some fruity teas (Harney's Ginger Peach Twist and
> Upton's Blackberry), some vanilla teas, and lots of spicy teas (Upton's
> Christmas Blend, New England Harvest Blend, Orange Spice...). All of
> these teas seem to complement milk quite well.
> I've even tried flavored green teas with milk; I especially like Argo
> Tea's Green Chai and SpecialTea's Green Vanilla. I even (gasp!) once
> enjoyed The Republic of Tea's Tea of Inquiry (from a TEABAG, no less!)
> with milk.
>
> In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
> in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
> And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.
>
> With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
> milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
> extremely cheap.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.
>
> [It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]

Disclaimer... this won't help at all!

I think "enjoyable tea" without milk (or with milk) is more a function
of what you *like* than necessarily the tea itself. I don't care for
milk in any kind of tea I drink, including those marked "perfect with
milk" - no milk for me, thanks - I will never find it "enjoyable."

However, I cannot drink coffee without milk, no matter the coffee (and
yes, I avoid espresso); suggestions have included making the coffee
weaker (no thank you!) letting it cool (love iced coffee, with milk, of
course!) and scores of blends - I still want milk.

Similarly, I often like just a touch of sugar or honey in very hot tea,
but not as it cools. Who can account for taste?

On 3/23/2005 7:46 AM, Hannah wrote:
> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I
> drink most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless).
> I enjoy chais, some fruity teas (Harney's Ginger Peach Twist and
> Upton's Blackberry), some vanilla teas, and lots of spicy teas (Upton's
> Christmas Blend, New England Harvest Blend, Orange Spice...). All of
> these teas seem to complement milk quite well.
> I've even tried flavored green teas with milk; I especially like Argo
> Tea's Green Chai and SpecialTea's Green Vanilla. I even (gasp!) once
> enjoyed The Republic of Tea's Tea of Inquiry (from a TEABAG, no less!)
> with milk.
>
> In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
> in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
> And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.
>
> With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
> milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
> extremely cheap.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.
>
> [It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]

Disclaimer... this won't help at all!

I think "enjoyable tea" without milk (or with milk) is more a function
of what you *like* than necessarily the tea itself. I don't care for
milk in any kind of tea I drink, including those marked "perfect with
milk" - no milk for me, thanks - I will never find it "enjoyable."

However, I cannot drink coffee without milk, no matter the coffee (and
yes, I avoid espresso); suggestions have included making the coffee
weaker (no thank you!) letting it cool (love iced coffee, with milk, of
course!) and scores of blends - I still want milk.

Similarly, I often like just a touch of sugar or honey in very hot tea,
but not as it cools. Who can account for taste?

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:31:30 GMT, Michael Plant wrote:

> Space 3/23/05
>
>
>> There are some of us who don't add anything to tea. Just learn to
>> enjoy the taste of tea perse. It doesn't need anything else.
>>
>> Jim
>
>
> Jim,
>
> In a democracy many things, even ugly things, are not only allowable, but
> even protected by law. This is one of democracy's great flaws, some might
> say. Sad, but true. People add milk to their vanilla and chocolate flavored
> tea, and there is no way to stop them. Wish I had something more cheerful to
> report in this regard.
>
> Michael

You're also "fighting" culture here. People get indoctrinated into
adding cream or milk to their tea because that's what everyone around
them does. For years, I thought tea had to be served with lemon
because every cup of tea I'd ever ordered came with lemon.

Granted, I was a kid at that time, but you get the point.

Personally, I've never quite enjoyed the taste of tea and milk. The
only exception being the chai lattes that Starbucks and Caribou sell
for those of us who can't tolerate coffee.

But one could argue that those aren't really "tea" anyway. But they're
darned tasty.

--
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with twenty-eight years ago." -- Will Rogers

"Hannah" > wrote in message
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>
> In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
> in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
> And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.
>
> With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
> milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
> extremely cheap.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.

Green teas and oolongs are meant to be consumed w/o milk. Since you're
already accustomed to drinking some green teas w/ milk, my suggestion is
that you try to acclimate yourself to drinking them w/o as well as trying
new teas.

Some to try:

Green teas:
Lung Ching/Dragon's Well
Pi Lo Chun/Green Snail Spring
Green Dew Gunpowder (uptontea.com) - start with 1/2 tsp per cup, not 1.
Jade Gunpowder (uptontea.com) - start with 1/2 tsp per cup, not 1.

You might want to avoid green teas with "pan-fried" in the name as I've
found them to be rather nasty.

Black teas:
English Breakfast Wilson Select
Irish Breakfast (adagio.com)
Keemun Mao Feng
Keemun Hao Ya
Original Earl Grey (uptontea.com)
Decaf apricot (uptontea.com) - if you want to sweeten this one, I recommend
using apricot jam or preserves.

White teas:
Shou Mei/Sow Mee
Pai Mu Tan/Bai Mudan/White Peony
Snowbuds - more expensive so, be sure to buy sample size
Silver Needles - more expensive so, be sure to buy sample size

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> Jade Gunpowder (uptontea.com) - start with 1/2 tsp per cup, not 1.

Sorry, that should read "Jade Pearl Gunpowder."

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>>People add milk to their vanilla and chocolate flavored tea, and
there is no way to stop them. Wish I had something more cheerful to
report in this regard. <<


I find the notion of vanilla or chocolate flavored tea to be far more
objectionable than the addition of milk!!


Rob

"Rob" > wrote in message
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> >>People add milk to their vanilla and chocolate flavored tea, and
> there is no way to stop them. Wish I had something more cheerful to
> report in this regard. <<
>
> I find the notion of vanilla or chocolate flavored tea to be far more
> objectionable than the addition of milk!!

Heh. I find the notion of people objecting to how tea is flavored, whether
by milk, vanilla, chocolate, or other to be more objectionable than the
various flavorings, so there!!!

"It's all just flavored water, anyway."

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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:48:47 -0600, Bluesea wrote:

> "Rob" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>>>People add milk to their vanilla and chocolate flavored tea, and
>> there is no way to stop them. Wish I had something more cheerful to
>> report in this regard. <<
>>
>> I find the notion of vanilla or chocolate flavored tea to be far more
>> objectionable than the addition of milk!!
>
> Heh. I find the notion of people objecting to how tea is flavored, whether
> by milk, vanilla, chocolate, or other to be more objectionable than the
> various flavorings, so there!!!

Milk, yech. Chocolate, yech. Vanilla... now that's not bad, if done
well.

The thing is, any flavoring can be done poorly and taste as much. It's
not just about what you like but also about the quality of what you
consume.

> "It's all just flavored water, anyway."

Yes, but can your Nutrimatic Drinks Synthesizer produce it without
completely overwhelming the processing power of your computer?
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them.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:48:47 -0600, Bluesea wrote:

> "Rob" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>>>People add milk to their vanilla and chocolate flavored tea, and
>> there is no way to stop them. Wish I had something more cheerful to
>> report in this regard. <<
>>
>> I find the notion of vanilla or chocolate flavored tea to be far more
>> objectionable than the addition of milk!!
>
> Heh. I find the notion of people objecting to how tea is flavored, whether
> by milk, vanilla, chocolate, or other to be more objectionable than the
> various flavorings, so there!!!

Milk, yech. Chocolate, yech. Vanilla... now that's not bad, if done
well.

The thing is, any flavoring can be done poorly and taste as much. It's
not just about what you like but also about the quality of what you
consume.

> "It's all just flavored water, anyway."

Yes, but can your Nutrimatic Drinks Synthesizer produce it without
completely overwhelming the processing power of your computer?
--
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them.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:46:13 -0800, Hannah wrote:

> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I drink
> most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless). I enjoy

I found strong Assams or Kenians mor palatable with milk, full fat not
skimmed. Also, msny CTC's are smoother with full fat milk. The skimmed
variety just adds colour but little flavour. Oolongs are ruined by that
milk.

JB

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 04:46:13 -0800, Hannah wrote:

> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I drink
> most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless). I enjoy

I found strong Assams or Kenians mor palatable with milk, full fat not
skimmed. Also, msny CTC's are smoother with full fat milk. The skimmed
variety just adds colour but little flavour. Oolongs are ruined by that
milk.

JB

In article >, Derek > wrote:
>Personally, I've never quite enjoyed the taste of tea and milk. The
>only exception being the chai lattes that Starbucks and Caribou sell
>for those of us who can't tolerate coffee.
>
>But one could argue that those aren't really "tea" anyway. But they're
>darned tasty.

my favorite tea is "green" oolong. i have it without milk. also i don't add
milk to green tea. i also don't add milk to pu-erh.

but i just don't like black tea without milk. black tea all tastes
pretty _bland_ to me without milk. & they all pretty much taste kind of alike.
even the supposedly good black tea still tastes bland, not bad, not offensive,
just uninteresting.

the only one i've had that tastes good by itself & doe not need milk to
enhance or smooth out the edges was in a tea tasting. i was told it was
called "fire phoenix" (limited edition from a wild tea plant from Taiwan). it

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In article >, Derek > wrote:
>Personally, I've never quite enjoyed the taste of tea and milk. The
>only exception being the chai lattes that Starbucks and Caribou sell
>for those of us who can't tolerate coffee.
>
>But one could argue that those aren't really "tea" anyway. But they're
>darned tasty.

my favorite tea is "green" oolong. i have it without milk. also i don't add
milk to green tea. i also don't add milk to pu-erh.

but i just don't like black tea without milk. black tea all tastes
pretty _bland_ to me without milk. & they all pretty much taste kind of alike.
even the supposedly good black tea still tastes bland, not bad, not offensive,
just uninteresting.

the only one i've had that tastes good by itself & doe not need milk to
enhance or smooth out the edges was in a tea tasting. i was told it was
called "fire phoenix" (limited edition from a wild tea plant from Taiwan). it

regards,



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Serendip > wrote in
:

> I think "enjoyable tea" without milk (or with milk) is more a function
> of what you *like* than necessarily the tea itself. I don't care for
> milk in any kind of tea I drink, including those marked "perfect with
> milk" - no milk for me, thanks - I will never find it "enjoyable."
>
> However, I cannot drink coffee without milk, no matter the coffee (and
> yes, I avoid espresso); suggestions have included making the coffee
> weaker (no thank you!) letting it cool (love iced coffee, with milk, of
> course!) and scores of blends - I still want milk.

I'm almost the reverse. I enjoy milk in tea, though not always (and not
all teas); and I very rarely drink coffee any way but black.

> Similarly, I often like just a touch of sugar or honey in very hot tea,
> but not as it cools. Who can account for taste?

When I sweeten my tea, it's usually first cup only. I can't say for sure
that's because it's the hottest, but it might have something to do with it.
I do tend to leave out the milk (even if it's English Breakfast or Assam
which, for me, cry out for it) at about cup number three, if I go that far.
Partly that's because of temperature, and partly because I enjoy the
variety--some with milk, some without.

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Serendip > wrote in
:

> I think "enjoyable tea" without milk (or with milk) is more a function
> of what you *like* than necessarily the tea itself. I don't care for
> milk in any kind of tea I drink, including those marked "perfect with
> milk" - no milk for me, thanks - I will never find it "enjoyable."
>
> However, I cannot drink coffee without milk, no matter the coffee (and
> yes, I avoid espresso); suggestions have included making the coffee
> weaker (no thank you!) letting it cool (love iced coffee, with milk, of
> course!) and scores of blends - I still want milk.

I'm almost the reverse. I enjoy milk in tea, though not always (and not
all teas); and I very rarely drink coffee any way but black.

> Similarly, I often like just a touch of sugar or honey in very hot tea,
> but not as it cools. Who can account for taste?

When I sweeten my tea, it's usually first cup only. I can't say for sure
that's because it's the hottest, but it might have something to do with it.
I do tend to leave out the milk (even if it's English Breakfast or Assam
which, for me, cry out for it) at about cup number three, if I go that far.
Partly that's because of temperature, and partly because I enjoy the
variety--some with milk, some without.

--
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danube > wrote in
news
> I found strong Assams or Kenians mor palatable with milk, full fat not
> skimmed. Also, msny CTC's are smoother with full fat milk. The skimmed
> variety just adds colour but little flavour. Oolongs are ruined by that
> milk.

Individual taste is a funny thing. I find Assams taste very good indeed
with skim milk, as well as English Breakfast and others. it certainly
changes the taste to my palate. But I like skim milk and to me it tastes
much like, well, milk, whereas others have told me it is horrid, with less
flavor than chalky water.

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danube > wrote in
news
> I found strong Assams or Kenians mor palatable with milk, full fat not
> skimmed. Also, msny CTC's are smoother with full fat milk. The skimmed
> variety just adds colour but little flavour. Oolongs are ruined by that
> milk.

Individual taste is a funny thing. I find Assams taste very good indeed
with skim milk, as well as English Breakfast and others. it certainly
changes the taste to my palate. But I like skim milk and to me it tastes
much like, well, milk, whereas others have told me it is horrid, with less
flavor than chalky water.

--
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"Dr. Gee" > wrote in message
...
>
> but i just don't like black tea without milk. black tea all tastes
> pretty _bland_ to me without milk. & they all pretty much taste kind of
alike.
> even the supposedly good black tea still tastes bland, not bad, not
offensive,
> just uninteresting.

You have my condolences because I've got two Keemun samples (actually, I
have samples of more than two Keemuns, but these stand out) that are so
distinctly different, the Mao Feng is chocolaty while the Hao Ya tastes like
wine, that I can't decide between them and may have to order full sizes of
both. I can't imagine how handicapped I'd feel if I were in your shoes
thinking that all black teas are "bland" and "pretty much taste kind of
alike" and had to always drink them w/ milk.

But, you got others you enjoy, so it's not as though you're without.

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"Dr. Gee" > wrote in message
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>
> but i just don't like black tea without milk. black tea all tastes
> pretty _bland_ to me without milk. & they all pretty much taste kind of
alike.
> even the supposedly good black tea still tastes bland, not bad, not
offensive,
> just uninteresting.

You have my condolences because I've got two Keemun samples (actually, I
have samples of more than two Keemuns, but these stand out) that are so
distinctly different, the Mao Feng is chocolaty while the Hao Ya tastes like
wine, that I can't decide between them and may have to order full sizes of
both. I can't imagine how handicapped I'd feel if I were in your shoes
thinking that all black teas are "bland" and "pretty much taste kind of
alike" and had to always drink them w/ milk.

But, you got others you enjoy, so it's not as though you're without.

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"Derek" > wrote in message ...
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:48:47 -0600, Bluesea wrote:
>
> > "It's all just flavored water, anyway."
>
> Yes, but can your Nutrimatic Drinks Synthesizer produce it without
> completely overwhelming the processing power of your computer?

BWAHAHAHAHA...*MY* computer?! <snort>

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> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:48:47 -0600, Bluesea wrote:
>
> > "It's all just flavored water, anyway."
>
> Yes, but can your Nutrimatic Drinks Synthesizer produce it without
> completely overwhelming the processing power of your computer?

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>
> "Rob" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>>>> People add milk to their vanilla and chocolate flavored tea, and
>> there is no way to stop them. Wish I had something more cheerful to
>> report in this regard. <<
>>
>> I find the notion of vanilla or chocolate flavored tea to be far more
>> objectionable than the addition of milk!!
>
> Heh. I find the notion of people objecting to how tea is flavored, whether
> by milk, vanilla, chocolate, or other to be more objectionable than the
> various flavorings, so there!!!
>
> "It's all just flavored water, anyway."


Sorry about that. I got carried away on a tide of tea. Of course, it's all a
matter of taste. I like the quote. Who said it?

Michael

"Michael Plant" > wrote in message
...
> 3/23/05
> >
> > Heh. I find the notion of people objecting to how tea is flavored,
whether
> > by milk, vanilla, chocolate, or other to be more objectionable than the
> > various flavorings, so there!!!
> >
> > "It's all just flavored water, anyway."
>
>
> Sorry about that. I got carried away on a tide of tea. Of course, it's all
a
> matter of taste.

Not a problem .

> I like the quote. Who said it?

Thanks, AFAIK, I did just then. It's derived from what the late Frank Dubiel
used to post when people'd get carried away in a.c.p-p about fountain pen
inks: "It's only colored water."


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> 3/23/05
> >
> > Heh. I find the notion of people objecting to how tea is flavored,
whether
> > by milk, vanilla, chocolate, or other to be more objectionable than the
> > various flavorings, so there!!!
> >
> > "It's all just flavored water, anyway."
>
>
> Sorry about that. I got carried away on a tide of tea. Of course, it's all
a
> matter of taste.

Not a problem .

> I like the quote. Who said it?

Thanks, AFAIK, I did just then. It's derived from what the late Frank Dubiel
used to post when people'd get carried away in a.c.p-p about fountain pen
inks: "It's only colored water."


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On 3/24/2005 3:10 AM, fLameDogg wrote:
> Serendip > wrote in

>> Similarly, I often like just a touch of sugar or honey in very hot
>> tea, but not as it cools. Who can account for taste?
>
> When I sweeten my tea, it's usually first cup only. I can't say for
> sure that's because it's the hottest, but it might have something to
> do with it.

Good point - I don't *know* that it's temperature that has anything to
do with not sweetening subsequent cups of tea, but figure that's
probably it since it's the only change.

And here I thought it was going to be a John Edwards type of thing....

"You had an oolong...it was a Phoenix Bird...right?...several years ago. You
have some unresolved issues with it..."

Or...something like that.

Melinda (FWIW, I like skim milk and sugar in my assams, javans, kenyans.
keemuns, ceylons, other black teas. No sugar or milk in my greens, oolongs
puers...eyuck, I tried milk and sugar in a Ten Ren puer once...)
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daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both
fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout
"Hannah" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I
> drink most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless).
> I enjoy chais, some fruity teas (Harney's Ginger Peach Twist and
> Upton's Blackberry), some vanilla teas, and lots of spicy teas (Upton's
> Christmas Blend, New England Harvest Blend, Orange Spice...). All of
> these teas seem to complement milk quite well.
> I've even tried flavored green teas with milk; I especially like Argo
> Tea's Green Chai and SpecialTea's Green Vanilla. I even (gasp!) once
> enjoyed The Republic of Tea's Tea of Inquiry (from a TEABAG, no less!)
> with milk.
>
> In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
> in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
> And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.
>
> With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
> milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
> extremely cheap.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.
>
> [It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]
>

And here I thought it was going to be a John Edwards type of thing....

"You had an oolong...it was a Phoenix Bird...right?...several years ago. You
have some unresolved issues with it..."

Or...something like that.

Melinda (FWIW, I like skim milk and sugar in my assams, javans, kenyans.
keemuns, ceylons, other black teas. No sugar or milk in my greens, oolongs
puers...eyuck, I tried milk and sugar in a Ten Ren puer once...)
--
"The country has entered an era in which
questions are not asked, for questions are
daughters of disquiet or arrogance, both
fruits of temptation and the food of sacrilege." Djaout
"Hannah" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Dramatic subject heading aside, I have a tea dilemma: currently, I
> drink most of the teas I enjoy with milk (skim, but milk nonetheless).
> I enjoy chais, some fruity teas (Harney's Ginger Peach Twist and
> Upton's Blackberry), some vanilla teas, and lots of spicy teas (Upton's
> Christmas Blend, New England Harvest Blend, Orange Spice...). All of
> these teas seem to complement milk quite well.
> I've even tried flavored green teas with milk; I especially like Argo
> Tea's Green Chai and SpecialTea's Green Vanilla. I even (gasp!) once
> enjoyed The Republic of Tea's Tea of Inquiry (from a TEABAG, no less!)
> with milk.
>
> In the process of attempting to widen my tea vocabulary, I'm interested
> in trying some more diverse teas--Chinese teas, good black teas, etc.
> And I'd also like to find some teas which are enjoyable without milk.
>
> With Chinese food, I do enjoy the tea a local restaurant serves without
> milk. I do believe it's an oolong, but I also think it's probably
> extremely cheap.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to teas to try to bridge the gap
> between the milked cup and the unmilked teacup? Tea flavors and even
> specific tea brands would be greatly appreciated.
>
> [It's a bit early; I hope this is at least somewhat coherent.]
>

"Bluesea" > wrote in message
...
>
> Black teas:

I nearly forgot to add Darjeeling to this group.


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"Bluesea" > wrote in message
...
>
> Black teas:

I nearly forgot to add Darjeeling to this group.


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"Bluesea" > writes:

> "Bluesea" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Black teas:
>
> I nearly forgot to add Darjeeling to this group.

Who says Darjeeling is black tea? (he says, ducking)

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"Bluesea" > writes:

> "Bluesea" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Black teas:
>
> I nearly forgot to add Darjeeling to this group.

Who says Darjeeling is black tea? (he says, ducking)

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In article >, "Bluesea" > wrote:
>
>"Dr. Gee" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> but i just don't like black tea without milk. black tea all tastes
>> pretty _bland_ to me without milk. & they all pretty much taste kind of
[snip] >
>You have my condolences because I've got two Keemun samples (actually, I
[snip]
>distinctly different, the Mao Feng is chocolaty while the Hao Ya tastes like
>wine, [snip]
>
>But, you got others you enjoy, so it's not as though you're without.
>

why condolescene?

1/4 of the tea i have is black tea + milk. most of tea i have, i don't add
milk (oolong, white, green, pu-erh (black, green or white) & flavored black
(e.g., Earl Grey)
since they don't need it. i'm very picky about oolong which is my "specialty"
:-)

i dont' know why. maybe it's because i grew up with oolong & Iron Budha,
rarely black.

i also have had the 2 same fine Keemuns (Mao Fen & Hao Ya A). they are better
than most black. & more distinctive than, say Assam or Dar Jeeling, breakfast
blends.
but they only _smells_ chocalate --- don't not taste chocality or winey _at
all_.
so they still improve with milk (IMHO)

most black tea, is like coffee to me, & milk takes the edges off for both.

a friend of mine is just the opposite: he drinks mostly black (without milk).
& he considers anything "green" (< 80% oxidation) _bland_ & tasteless. go
figure! taste is a strange & personal thing.

regards,



Pam @ Home

Cort Furniture Rental and Honesty are two exclusive concepts.

In article >, "Bluesea" > wrote:
>
>"Dr. Gee" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> but i just don't like black tea without milk. black tea all tastes
>> pretty _bland_ to me without milk. & they all pretty much taste kind of
[snip] >
>You have my condolences because I've got two Keemun samples (actually, I
[snip]
>distinctly different, the Mao Feng is chocolaty while the Hao Ya tastes like
>wine, [snip]
>
>But, you got others you enjoy, so it's not as though you're without.
>

why condolescene?

1/4 of the tea i have is black tea + milk. most of tea i have, i don't add
milk (oolong, white, green, pu-erh (black, green or white) & flavored black
(e.g., Earl Grey)
since they don't need it. i'm very picky about oolong which is my "specialty"
:-)

i dont' know why. maybe it's because i grew up with oolong & Iron Budha,
rarely black.

i also have had the 2 same fine Keemuns (Mao Fen & Hao Ya A). they are better
than most black. & more distinctive than, say Assam or Dar Jeeling, breakfast
blends.
but they only _smells_ chocalate --- don't not taste chocality or winey _at
all_.
so they still improve with milk (IMHO)

most black tea, is like coffee to me, & milk takes the edges off for both.

a friend of mine is just the opposite: he drinks mostly black (without milk).
& he considers anything "green" (< 80% oxidation) _bland_ & tasteless. go
figure! taste is a strange & personal thing.

regards,



Pam @ Home

Cort Furniture Rental and Honesty are two exclusive concepts.

IMHO, everything's just a matter of taste. I couldn't imagine how iron budda
+ milk would taste like until the day I tried it in a bubble tea place, and
it was actually quite good.

These recent days I enjoy having a cup of Ceylon with milk and sugar (I call
it the "English style") to kick start my day, and later the day I'll just
drink whatever tea I feel like having, for example today is pu-er, yesterday
was 1 oolong and Long Jing, day before was 2 oolongs and Long Jing... etc
etc. (obviously I'm trying to drink more so I can convince my mom that we do
have some space for new teas)

Katie
tamkatie @ rogers.com