Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting pu-erhs
(http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have one claimed to be
from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your take?

I'm also an egg when it comes to pu, but the experiences I have had with
low-end cooked were not encouraging. Any of these green pu's look good to
you? The Jing Mai Ye Sheng sounds good, and the price seems reasonable.
Too reasonable, perhaps?

Regards,
Dean

I can't speak for the Jing Mai Ye Sheng cake, but I have the
Bajiaoting, Dai Ethnic Minority, and Yiwu Zhengshan cake from
Teaspring. I haven't broken open the first two yet, but the Zhengshan
is sweet, smokey, mild and goes down easy. It's a good
won't-scare-anyone-away introduction to puerhs based on all the young
green puerhs I've been sampling lately.

~J

PS http://community.livejournal.com/puerh_tea/5468.html is my full
review if you're interested.

-------DPM wrote:
Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting pu-erhs
(http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have one claimed
to be
from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your take?

I'm also an egg when it comes to pu, but the experiences I have had
with
low-end cooked were not encouraging. Any of these green pu's look good
to
you? The Jing Mai Ye Sheng sounds good, and the price seems
reasonable.
Too reasonable, perhaps?

Regards,
Dean

"DPM" > writes:

> Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting pu-erhs
> (http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have one claimed to be
> from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your take?

Uh, I'm ahead of you: I'd already asked Mike!

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

DPM wrote:
> Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting pu-erhs
> (http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have one claimed to be
> from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your take?

I am confused, where is the 60s tea on their site. All I see is a 70s
GYG but nothing from the 60s. Can you give me a link?

Here is the review I gave them on my site:
"This site is based in Delaware but really ships their tea directly
from China.

Good pictures, factories, and vintages, but no leaf grades. They do
offer some Antique puer online and more upon special request.

Prices range from good to OK but it is hard to tell for sure because
they imbed their shipping cost in the price of the tea itself. I prefer
site that sell the tea at the true price and then charge actual
shipping. Most people who buy tea directly from China know enough to
expect high shipping costs. All of that being said this is a good
source for authentic puerh."

They are a trustworthy source of authentic puerhs. Jing Teahouse, and
Yunnan Sourcing are also good sources.

Mike
http://www.pu-erh.net

"Mike Petro" > writes:

> DPM wrote:
> > Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting
> > pu-erhs (http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have
> > one claimed to be from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your
> > take?
>
> I am confused, where is the 60s tea on their site. All I see is a 70s
> GYG but nothing from the 60s. Can you give me a link?

Yes: http://www.teaspring.com/Gao-Li-Gong-Shan-60s.asp

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

"Mike Petro" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> DPM wrote:
>> Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting pu-erhs
>> (http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have one claimed to
>> be
>> from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your take?
>
> I am confused, where is the 60s tea on their site. All I see is a 70s
> GYG but nothing from the 60s. Can you give me a link?
>

Mike,

Here is a link. The tea was featured in their latest e-mail newsletter.

http://www.teaspring.com/Gao-Li-Gong-Shan-60s.asp

They also mentioned a Long Jing Huang Pao that look unusual and
interesting.

Blues

On 09 Mar 2006 16:27:36 -0500, Lewis Perin > wrote:

>"Mike Petro" > writes:
>
>> DPM wrote:
>> > Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting
>> > pu-erhs (http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have
>> > one claimed to be from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your
>> > take?
>>
>> I am confused, where is the 60s tea on their site. All I see is a 70s
>> GYG but nothing from the 60s. Can you give me a link?
>
>Yes: http://www.teaspring.com/Gao-Li-Gong-Shan-60s.asp

Ah yes, now I remember Lew speaking of it. I am not familiar with this
one. I am somewhat surprised to see the recent availability of so
many aged loose leaf sheng puerhs that just a year ago were seldom
seen. I am drinking one right now from another source. I am told by
those in the know that the loose leaf aged puerhs don't demonstrate
nearly as much "Qi" as the compressed variety, but they can be tasty.

--
Mike Petro
http://www.pu-erh.net

"Mike Petro" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> DPM wrote:
> > Following on to Dominic's post, Teaspring has some interesting pu-erhs
> > (http://www.teaspring.com/pu-erh-tea.asp). They even have one claimed
to be
> > from the '60s! Mike, Lew, Michael, what's your take?
>
> I am confused, where is the 60s tea on their site. All I see is a 70s
> GYG but nothing from the 60s. Can you give me a link?
>
> Here is the review I gave them on my site:
> "This site is based in Delaware but really ships their tea directly
> from China.
>
> Good pictures, factories, and vintages, but no leaf grades. They do
> offer some Antique puer online and more upon special request.
>
> Prices range from good to OK but it is hard to tell for sure because
> they imbed their shipping cost in the price of the tea itself. I prefer
> site that sell the tea at the true price and then charge actual
> shipping. Most people who buy tea directly from China know enough to
> expect high shipping costs. All of that being said this is a good
> source for authentic puerh."
>
> They are a trustworthy source of authentic puerhs. Jing Teahouse, and
> Yunnan Sourcing are also good sources.
>
> Mike
> http://www.pu-erh.net
>

Mike,

Others have provided the link, so I won't repeat it.

Thanks for your input. I have had good experiences with this vendor, so I
may take a pu plunge with them.

Regards,
Dean

> >
> > They are a trustworthy source of authentic puerhs. Jing Teahouse, and
> > Yunnan Sourcing are also good sources.
> >
> > Mike
> > http://www.pu-erh.net
> >
>
> Mike,
>
> Others have provided the link, so I won't repeat it.
>
> Thanks for your input. I have had good experiences with this vendor, so I
> may take a pu plunge with them.
>
> Regards,
> Dean

This raises a question I have about TeaSpring. On the website, the
picture they have of the 70's Guang Yun shows a beeng with a round
neifei:

http://www.teaspring.com/Guang-Yun-Gong-70s.asp

Yet, on the HouDe website, it is mentioned that Guang Yun beengs did
not have a round neifei until the 1980's:

http://www.houdeasianart.com/index.p... ducts_id=295

Has anyone checked into this? Has anyone tried the Guang Yun from
TeaSpring? I tasted a sample of the cake from Houde and its quite
amazing. A very powerful tea that left a smile on my face (and sweat
on my brow.) Unfortunately, at $379, it's a little out of my price
range. However, at $230...

By the way, hello. This is my first posting on RFDT. I have talked to
a few of you via email, but this is my first public outing on this
group. Hello to all that I haven't exchanged with before.

-David Lesseps

[David]
> Has anyone checked into this? Has anyone tried the Guang Yun from
> TeaSpring? I tasted a sample of the cake from Houde and its quite
> amazing. A very powerful tea that left a smile on my face (and sweat
> on my brow.) Unfortunately, at $379, it's a little out of my price
> range. However, at $230...
>
> By the way, hello. This is my first posting on RFDT. I have talked to
> a few of you via email, but this is my first public outing on this
> group. Hello to all that I haven't exchanged with before.
>
Hi David,

Your first posting and you are about to draw blood. Haha!

May I reply you on the above privately? The question has been raised to me
before, and I replied them off the group...

Danny

Can someone post the chinese characters for "neifei". If possible
Danny send it by email and I'll post back. I can match nei but nothing
for fei.

Thanks,
Jim

....delete one site contradicting another what's new...
Davelcorp wrote:
> On the website, the
> picture they have of the 70's Guang Yun shows a beeng with a round
> neifei:

>This raises a question I have about TeaSpring. On the website, the
>picture they have of the 70's Guang Yun shows a beeng with a round
>neifei:
>
>http://www.teaspring.com/Guang-Yun-Gong-70s.asp
>
>Yet, on the HouDe website, it is mentioned that Guang Yun beengs did
>not have a round neifei until the 1980's:
>
>http://www.houdeasianart.com/index.p... ducts_id=295
>
>Has anyone checked into this? Has anyone tried the Guang Yun from
>TeaSpring? I tasted a sample of the cake from Houde and its quite
>amazing. A very powerful tea that left a smile on my face (and sweat
>on my brow.) Unfortunately, at $379, it's a little out of my price
>range. However, at $230...

Having tasted them both the Hou De tea is MUCH better. I also believe
that Guang got his information straight out of the various Pu-erh
anthologies. These anthologies often contradict each other but in this
case I suspect that Teasprings GYG may indeed be a little younger than
a 70s vintage. As they say "the tea doesn't lie" and the taste of
these two samples clearly shows Houde as being older and better.

--
Mike Petro
http://www.pu-erh.net

> Having tasted them both the Hou De tea is MUCH better. I also believe
> that Guang got his information straight out of the various Pu-erh
> anthologies. These anthologies often contradict each other but in this
> case I suspect that Teasprings GYG may indeed be a little younger than
> a 70s vintage. As they say "the tea doesn't lie" and the taste of
> these two samples clearly shows Houde as being older and better.
>
> --
but can you compare if the materials and storage methods were different?

:")

Danny

>> Having tasted them both the Hou De tea is MUCH better. I also believe
>> that Guang got his information straight out of the various Pu-erh
>> anthologies. These anthologies often contradict each other but in this
>> case I suspect that Teasprings GYG may indeed be a little younger than
>> a 70s vintage. As they say "the tea doesn't lie" and the taste of
>> these two samples clearly shows Houde as being older and better.
>>
>> --
>but can you compare if the materials and storage methods were different?
>

I have not drank them side by side yet, I still have some of each left
so I may do that.

The Houde sample was clearly stored well, the tea attested to that. I
suspect the Teaspring sample may not have been. There was distinct
bite to the Teaspring sample, I am not sure if that is attributed to
the maocha, storage, or age, my suspicion is storage.

I do not know the GYGs well enough to definitively recognize the
source of the maocha yet. I do know they changed the source of the
maocha over the decades, and I also know I like the 60s Yunnan maocha
recipe the best. I have had a few really good ones, and a few really
bad ones, when you throw storage conditions into the mix it is hard
for me to draw a good baseline. even if we know that the leaf source
and the age are linked in this genre.

--
Mike Petro
http://www.pu-erh.net

> The Houde sample was clearly stored well, the tea attested to that. I
> suspect the Teaspring sample may not have been. There was distinct
> bite to the Teaspring sample, I am not sure if that is attributed to
> the maocha, storage, or age, my suspicion is storage.
>
> I do not know the GYGs well enough to definitively recognize the
> source of the maocha yet. I do know they changed the source of the
> maocha over the decades, and I also know I like the 60s Yunnan maocha
> recipe the best. I have had a few really good ones, and a few really
> bad ones, when you throw storage conditions into the mix it is hard
> for me to draw a good baseline. even if we know that the leaf source
> and the age are linked in this genre.
>
> --
Yup. GYG after the late 70s used a primarily maocha from Guangdong region,
inlcuding those from Guangxi. The distinctive bite from Teaspring might be
due to this. The 70s in itself had broadly 2 different blends as well,
those in the mid 70s and before tasted different from the later
70s...looking at the cake my guess on Houde is that from the later 70s, but
I can't tell for sure till I try a sample *hint*hint*...

Danny

"Space Cowboy" > writes:

> Can someone post the chinese characters for "neifei". If possible
> Danny send it by email and I'll post back. I can match nei but nothing
> for fei.

You could look it up on Babelcarp.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

Hi Lew,

These are the two characters that Danny sent me: ÄÚ·É. They match
your Babelcarp. I keep forgetting you now show the Unicode. The only
use I see of fei as a ticket is in a Cantonese jyutping dictionary
indicating airline ticket.

Jim

Lewis Perin wrote:
> "Space Cowboy" > writes:
>
> > Can someone post the chinese characters for "neifei". If possible
> > Danny send it by email and I'll post back. I can match nei but nothing
> > for fei.
>
> You could look it up on Babelcarp.
>
> /Lew
> ---
> Lew Perin /
> http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html