Tea (rec.drink.tea) Discussion relating to tea, the world's second most consumed beverage (after water), made by infusing or boiling the leaves of the tea plant (C. sinensis or close relatives) in water.

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Is there any difference in tea taste between water heated in a microwave
oven and a normal heating in a kettle?
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In article >, cos > wrote:
>Is there any difference in tea taste between water heated in a microwave
>oven and a normal heating in a kettle?


I never found any. If there is, it's substantially less than the difference
between water in different cities.
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> In article >, cos > wrote:
> >Is there any difference in tea taste between water heated in a microwave
> >oven and a normal heating in a kettle?

>
> I never found any. If there is, it's substantially less than the

difference
> between water in different cities.
> --scott
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> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



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> Is there any difference in tea taste between water heated in a microwave
> oven and a normal heating in a kettle?


Apparently it can be dangerous in certain circumstances, i.e. if you manage
to superheat the water.

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Stefan Goetzinger wrote:

> cos wrote:
>
>> Is there any difference in tea taste between water heated in a microwave
>> oven and a normal heating in a kettle?

>
> Apparently it can be dangerous in certain circumstances, i.e. if you
> manage to superheat the water.
>
> Stefan

Should not be a problem in a wide mouth container, like a measuring
cup. Also, one might stick in a wooden skewer to ensure a place for
bubble creation and thus minimize super heating---so the story goes.

I do it all the time in coffee cups and measuring cups. My wife
heats her teabag in a cup of water (gasp) in the nuker.


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For what it's worth, I think tea made with microwaved water tastes "flat"
(not as flavorful), but to be honest I've never done a blind tasting to
confirm it.

Dean

"Scott Dorsey" > wrote in message
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> In article >, cos > wrote:
> >Is there any difference in tea taste between water heated in a microwave
> >oven and a normal heating in a kettle?

>
> I never found any. If there is, it's substantially less than the

difference
> between water in different cities.
> --scott
>
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."



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In article <viVfg.16692$xO5.12126@trnddc03>, DPM > wrote:
>For what it's worth, I think tea made with microwaved water tastes "flat"
>(not as flavorful), but to be honest I've never done a blind tasting to
>confirm it.


Are you pulling the water out as soon as it boils, or letting it boil
for a while? If you boil any water too long, it will reduce the dissolved
oxygen which can make for flat-tasting tea.
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What someone claims microwaved water does to plants:


http://www.execonn.com/sf/


Personally I'm not a microwave oven abolitionist, but I would keep all
microwave use to a minimum. Ours broke down this past January. We were
going to replace it, but never got around to it, and rarely miss it.


Scott Dorsey wrote:
> In article <viVfg.16692$xO5.12126@trnddc03>, DPM > wrote:
> >For what it's worth, I think tea made with microwaved water tastes "flat"
> >(not as flavorful), but to be honest I've never done a blind tasting to
> >confirm it.

>
> Are you pulling the water out as soon as it boils, or letting it boil
> for a while? If you boil any water too long, it will reduce the dissolved
> oxygen which can make for flat-tasting tea.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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ah2323 wrote:
> What someone claims microwaved water does to plants:
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>
> http://www.execonn.com/sf/
>
>
> Personally I'm not a microwave oven abolitionist, but I would keep all
> microwave use to a minimum. Ours broke down this past January. We were
> going to replace it, but never got around to it, and rarely miss it.
>


For household amusement, it's hard to top what a microwave does to a
York Peppermint Pattie. Peeps aren't bad, either.

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> In article <viVfg.16692$xO5.12126@trnddc03>, DPM > wrote:


> Are you pulling the water out as soon as it boils, or letting it boil
> for a while?


Well, I avoid microwaving water for tea, so it's been a while, but when I do
I pull it out as soon as the oven is done.

If you boil any water too long, it will reduce the dissolved
> oxygen which can make for flat-tasting tea.


I recall an extensive thread here on this issue a while back - there were
some, as I recall, who took the position that by the time water reaches
boiling temp most of the oxygen is gone anyway, so it's effect on tea taste
is irrelevant. YMMV.

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Stefan Goetzinger wrote:
> cos wrote:
>
> > Is there any difference in tea taste between water heated in a microwave
> > oven and a normal heating in a kettle?

>
> Apparently it can be dangerous in certain circumstances, i.e. if you manage
> to superheat the water.


Yes, if you bring it to a boil in the microwave in a nice clean cup,
then
remove the cup and quickly dump in leaves or a bag to steep, the water
will froth way up, and probably spill out.

A second thing to consider is that you are heating the cup at the same
time, and this means the water in the cup will be hotter (and stay
hotter longer) than it would have if you had boiled water in a kettle,
and then poured it into a room temperature cup. Measurements I
have taken show that immediately after pouring boiling water into a
12 oz. room temperature mug, the water is already down to about
200 F (93 C).


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RJP wrote:
> Yes, if you bring it to a boil in the microwave in a nice clean cup,
> then
> remove the cup and quickly dump in leaves or a bag to steep, the water
> will froth way up, and probably spill out.
>
> A second thing to consider is that you are heating the cup at the same
> time, and this means the water in the cup will be hotter (and stay
> hotter longer) than it would have if you had boiled water in a kettle,
> and then poured it into a room temperature cup. Measurements I
> have taken show that immediately after pouring boiling water into a
> 12 oz. room temperature mug, the water is already down to about
> 200 F (93 C).


I always think its pretty cool to see the water go ballistic when it
comes in contact with just the air outside the microwave, but I guess
I'm sick like that. I also know it is going to happen and am not
surprised or in danger of being caught unaware by it though.

In Italian hoot food/beverages should be "swearingly hot" - rough
translation - and that is how I enjoy my tea, except for delicate teas
that need lower temps. When at work though, I only have a microwave and
a set of teas that I can be more lenient on with temp/time.

I personally can tell the difference between a microwave and a tea
kettle. I've tested it out and I can tell every time. I believe it has
to do more with the proper brewing temperature than oxygen though. I
never fully buy into the oxygen story. I brew with spring water only,
and old school tea would have been brewed with much the same. I can't
see them in ancient times throwing out perfectly good water and making
another trek for each pot of tea. Most likely they reused the same
water until it was gone, reboiling etc. I have read a number of older
texts on tea and never have they mentioned reboiling or oxygen
anywhere, so I personally believe it is not an issue.

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Wow, I never knew. I'll never microwave water again for my Tea.

Microwave Ovens = Evil cancer producing machines.


ah2323 wrote:
> What someone claims microwaved water does to plants:
>
>
> http://www.execonn.com/sf/
>
>
> Personally I'm not a microwave oven abolitionist, but I would keep all
> microwave use to a minimum. Ours broke down this past January. We were
> going to replace it, but never got around to it, and rarely miss it.
>
>
> Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> In article <viVfg.16692$xO5.12126@trnddc03>, DPM > wrote:
>>> For what it's worth, I think tea made with microwaved water tastes "flat"
>>> (not as flavorful), but to be honest I've never done a blind tasting to
>>> confirm it.

>> Are you pulling the water out as soon as it boils, or letting it boil
>> for a while? If you boil any water too long, it will reduce the dissolved
>> oxygen which can make for flat-tasting tea.
>> --scott
>> --
>> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

>



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Araxen wrote:
> Wow, I never knew. I'll never microwave water again for my Tea.
>


Be careful.

http://www.snopes.com/science/microwave.asp

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