Just read about this article on www.t4u.com...I think this breaks the myth
that all tea drinkers are peaceful people...what do you think? - Danny

[Chinese portion heavily snipped]

"...Just a little news nugget...

Recently in a heated exchange of words in a Taiwanese discussion forum on
tea, the alleged chief editor of Puerh Teapot Magazine blatantly referred to
aged puerh teas in Malaysia as durians, a highly pungent fruit that is not
well liked outside South East Asia; and the tea shops there as fruit stalls.
Furthermore, he has also accused Malaysians of selling fake old puerhs.

He obviously has brought personal grudges into the argument, and has crossed
the line. The magazine and its editorial have also been criticised for
showing preferences to their key advertisers. The Malaysian agent of the
magazine is considering discontinuing the contract with Puerh Teapot
Magazine and instead bring in other magazines with less bias viewpoints. The
magazine, which is increasing becoming thicker with more adverts, may suffer
a sharp decline in readership and circulation, if this comes to pass.

Malaysia, outside of China, Hongkong and Taiwan, is a very keen and
interested market for puerh lovers and collectors over the last few years.
The weather condition in Malaysia has also been praised as the ideal nest
for puerh ageing over the other areas, and produces excellently aged puerhs.
...."

"samarkand" > writes:

> Just read about this article on www.t4u.com...I think this breaks the myth
> that all tea drinkers are peaceful people...what do you think? - Danny

I think tea drinkers have conquered a lot more of the world (some
parts repeatedly, of course) than coffee drinkers.

> [Chinese portion heavily snipped]
>
> "...Just a little news nugget...
>
> Recently in a heated exchange of words in a Taiwanese discussion
> forum on tea, the alleged chief editor of Puerh Teapot Magazine
> blatantly referred to aged puerh teas in Malaysia as durians, a
> highly pungent fruit that is not well liked outside South East Asia;
> and the tea shops there as fruit stalls. Furthermore, he has also
> accused Malaysians of selling fake old puerhs.
>
> He obviously has brought personal grudges into the argument, and has crossed
> the line. The magazine and its editorial have also been criticised for
> showing preferences to their key advertisers. The Malaysian agent of the
> magazine is considering discontinuing the contract with Puerh Teapot
> Magazine and instead bring in other magazines with less bias viewpoints. The
> magazine, which is increasing becoming thicker with more adverts, may suffer
> a sharp decline in readership and circulation, if this comes to pass.

Good thing the editor left Singaporeans out of this; he'd have a real
fight on his hands.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

Lewis Perin wrote:
> "samarkand" > writes:
>
>
>>Just read about this article on www.t4u.com...I think this breaks the myth
>>that all tea drinkers are peaceful people...what do you think? - Danny
>
>
> I think tea drinkers have conquered a lot more of the world (some
> parts repeatedly, of course) than coffee drinkers.
>

Interesting question. Coffee predominates over tea in the U.S., France
and Spain.

dmh

Is there any truth to his accusations? Are there a large number of
fakes coming out of there? Or is his comment purely prompted by
personal grudges?

samarkand wrote:
> Just read about this article on www.t4u.com...I think this breaks the myth
> that all tea drinkers are peaceful people...what do you think? - Danny

Very interesting post. I'm not a particularly peaceful person, but
insofar as I take the time to really enjoy it, which I often do, I
think drinking tea makes me more peaceful.

samarkand wrote:
> Just read about this article on www.t4u.com...I think this breaks the myth
> that all tea drinkers are peaceful people...what do you think? - Danny

*sigh*
Gossip, rumour mongering, backtalk, spreading negativity and hypocrisy
are all traits that I would also use to describe the "peaceful" person.


You did suceed in successfully breaking the myth though, that is if you
yourself drink tea?

For what it's worth, tea surveys show that the typical tea drinker is
young, muscular, and male. So much for the stereotype of the Queen
having high tea with her female grandchildren. Toci
samarkand wrote:
> Just read about this article on www.t4u.com...I think this breaks the myth
> that all tea drinkers are peaceful people...what do you think? - Danny
>
> [Chinese portion heavily snipped]
>
> "...Just a little news nugget...
>
> Recently in a heated exchange of words in a Taiwanese discussion forum on
> tea, the alleged chief editor of Puerh Teapot Magazine blatantly referred to
> aged puerh teas in Malaysia as durians, a highly pungent fruit that is not
> well liked outside South East Asia; and the tea shops there as fruit stalls.
> Furthermore, he has also accused Malaysians of selling fake old puerhs.
>
> He obviously has brought personal grudges into the argument, and has crossed
> the line. The magazine and its editorial have also been criticised for
> showing preferences to their key advertisers. The Malaysian agent of the
> magazine is considering discontinuing the contract with Puerh Teapot
> Magazine and instead bring in other magazines with less bias viewpoints. The
> magazine, which is increasing becoming thicker with more adverts, may suffer
> a sharp decline in readership and circulation, if this comes to pass.
>
> Malaysia, outside of China, Hongkong and Taiwan, is a very keen and
> interested market for puerh lovers and collectors over the last few years.
> The weather condition in Malaysia has also been praised as the ideal nest
> for puerh ageing over the other areas, and produces excellently aged puerhs.
> ..."

samarkand wrote:
>> Just read about this article on www.t4u.com...I think this breaks the myth
>> that all tea drinkers are peaceful people...what do you think? - Danny

[somebody else wrote (unsigned)]
> *sigh*
> Gossip, rumour mongering, backtalk, spreading negativity and hypocrisy
> are all traits that I would also use to describe the "peaceful" person.
> You did suceed in successfully breaking the myth though, that is if you
> yourself drink tea?

[Michael]
I don't understand your response to samarkand.
Would you please explain. Thanks!
Michael

> [Michael]
> I don't understand your response to samarkand.
> Would you please explain. Thanks!
> Michael

Well, last year on our B.O. (Boobs Online) annual trip to Mcledo Ganj
we met with an extraordinary llama. He lived simply in his hermitage
and the peace seemed to radiate from him. Having come from a hectic
life as a sinner in a big city I couldn't help but ask:
"How too may I be a peaceful person?"
He replied, "One sure measure of a peaceful person is to listen to the
arguments of others, making sure it has no relevance to you personally,
then go around as many places as possible and spread rumours, gossip,
judgment and dissent about people you've never met." I then was
enlightened about the meaning of true peace.
As I was leaving he called out, "Oh yeah and don't forget to tell only
one side, snip out portions of the argument, and sprinkle in some
opinion for good measure. And it may be good to spread your rumours in
another country and in another language so the people who had an
argument won't know."
And still to this day, I can't help but recall what a peaceful monk he
was and how peaceful his advice was. Thus, even now I measure people's
attainment of peace by their ability to spread gossip, rumours and
dissent about arguments that they themselves declare were "personal".
In fact, this is my start. I don't know these magazine guys or the
gossip who started this thread, but here I am arguing and gossiping
about his hypocrisy. So you can see, I am on the path. How peaceful it
is to gossip!


Say, by the way, did you hear that Micahel Plant doesn't understand?

Wait wait wait... A survey said this?...

Sounds like an online survey; how many old grandmothers put themselves
in an active enough position on the internet to present themselves as a
large statistic compared to the average *active* interenet user (young
males)?

Keep in mind here, I'm not referring to stereotypes, I'm just saying
that the context of such a survey is very important due to the context
of the material in the question. :P

SOURCES! :-D

-Dr3w


toci wrote:
> For what it's worth, tea surveys show that the typical tea drinker is
> young, muscular, and male. So much for the stereotype of the Queen
> having high tea with her female grandchildren. Toci
> samarkand wrote:

"poofterspecific"
>
>
> Say, by the way, did you hear that Micahel Plant doesn't understand?
>

Hey Michael,

did you hear of this guy with boobs who checked in to Mcledo Ganj for a
brain operation and met a llama thinking it is a lama?

:")

"puerhpacific" > wrote in message
oups.com...

>
>
> You did suceed in successfully breaking the myth though, that is if you
> yourself drink tea?
>
Nah, I drink blood. Do you drink tea?

"Davelcorp" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Is there any truth to his accusations? Are there a large number of
> fakes coming out of there? Or is his comment purely prompted by
> personal grudges?
>
Hi Davelcorp,

Not that I know of actually. There might be fake puerhs being imported into
Malaysia from China and elsewhere, but since they do not produce puerhs
there in Malaysia, I don't think they have exported any.

In the past, the puerhs we get usually came from the warehouses in Hongkong
and Guangzhou, these being the two areas where most puerhs were stored after
being produced in Yunnan and its regions.

In the late 70s (or early 80s, I have to check the records), Taiwan began
importing (stealthily) puerhs. After a decade or so, we have puerhs coming
out of Taiwan warehouses as well - though this is not usually the case, as
there were more consumers in Taiwan than exporters.

Thus we have mainly puerhs from Hongkong, Guangzhou and Taiwan warehouses.
From the late 90s onwards, more puerhs players enter the market and we have
puerhs from Kunming, Yunnan, etc warehouses besides those from Hongkong,
Guangzhou and Taiwan.

3 pieces of puerh stored in Hongkong, Guangzhou and Taiwan will end up with
different flavours. Kunming and Yunnan are often not considered ideal
storing locations as the climate there is too dry.

In the early 90s some Taiwanese tourists holidaying in Malaysia discovered
that Malaysia is a treasure cove with teas excellently aged and without the
signature flavours of the warehouses from Hongkong, Guangzhou and Taiwan.
This sparked an interest in the so-called 'Malaysian Puerh', which is puerh
imported from China sometime back.

Danny

"samarkand" > writes:

> "poofterspecific"
> >
> >
> > Say, by the way, did you hear that Micahel Plant doesn't understand?
> >
>
> Hey Michael,
>
> did you hear of this guy with boobs who checked in to Mcledo Ganj for a
> brain operation and met a llama thinking it is a lama?

His confusion is understandable: for one-L lamas you want *Mcleod* Ganj.

/Lew
---
Lew Perin /
http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

Right- so you're saying that the majority of internet users are young,
muscular, and male, and tea drinking has nothing to do with it. Since
I've forgotten my source, I'll buy that. It would be an interesting
study, though. Toci
Studio271 wrote:
> Wait wait wait... A survey said this?...
>
> Sounds like an online survey; how many old grandmothers put themselves
> in an active enough position on the internet to present themselves as a
> large statistic compared to the average *active* interenet user (young
> males)?
>
> Keep in mind here, I'm not referring to stereotypes, I'm just saying
> that the context of such a survey is very important due to the context
> of the material in the question. :P
>
> SOURCES! :-D
>
> -Dr3w
>
>
> toci wrote:
> > For what it's worth, tea surveys show that the typical tea drinker is
> > young, muscular, and male. So much for the stereotype of the Queen
> > having high tea with her female grandchildren. Toci
> > samarkand wrote:

Lewis 8/16/06

> "samarkand" > writes:
>
>> "poofterspecific"
>>>
>>>
>>> Say, by the way, did you hear that Micahel Plant doesn't understand?
>>>
>>
>> Hey Michael,
>>
>> did you hear of this guy with boobs who checked in to Mcledo Ganj for a
>> brain operation and met a llama thinking it is a lama?
>
> His confusion is understandable: for one-L lamas you want *Mcleod* Ganj.
>
> /Lew

Lew, I've decided to change my name to
Danny Das in honour of Danniji! You
can change your name too, if you like.
Danny Das.

So are these young males describing themselves as muscular? LMAO, no bias
there. On the internet no-one knows you're a dog.

Er...I'm a parrot, not a dog, but the same thing appllies. Except we're
smarter.

Melinda


"toci" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Right- so you're saying that the majority of internet users are young,
> muscular, and male, and tea drinking has nothing to do with it. Since
> I've forgotten my source, I'll buy that. It would be an interesting
> study, though. Toci
> Studio271 wrote:
>> Wait wait wait... A survey said this?...
>>
>> Sounds like an online survey; how many old grandmothers put themselves
>> in an active enough position on the internet to present themselves as a
>> large statistic compared to the average *active* interenet user (young
>> males)?
>>
>> Keep in mind here, I'm not referring to stereotypes, I'm just saying
>> that the context of such a survey is very important due to the context
>> of the material in the question. :P
>>
>> SOURCES! :-D
>>
>> -Dr3w
>>
>>
>> toci wrote:
>> > For what it's worth, tea surveys show that the typical tea drinker is
>> > young, muscular, and male. So much for the stereotype of the Queen
>> > having high tea with her female grandchildren. Toci
>> > samarkand wrote:
>