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There IS a difference. There is NO hypocrisy in condemning those who do MORE cruelty to animals or advance harm to their bodies or society through drug use -- NOT less. This is what makes Rush Limbaugh a TOTAL hypocrite. He condemned pot smokers, even those whose pot smoking caused no damage to themselves and cost insurers and drug rehab units, demanding extremist prison sentences for them, who did less damage to society financially than his coked up fanatic drug habit. He even condemned those who themselves took no illegal drugs, just because they believed in legalizing drugs for others. Thus, he condemned those who are 100% pure, drug-wise. I have not heard of this Karen Winter, but from what you describe, she kills FAR fewer animals, and those she does, more humanely, than ANYone she condemns. More importantly, she is working in the right direction, willing to work with others to find out ways to further reduce killing animals by advancing technology. Obviously you would condemn WWII veterans for being hypocrites because some of them killed innocent civilians accidentally in war while they were trying to fight the Nazis. |
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prick wrote:
> Response to some rather dense person's posting. Ahhh, responding to yourself. > There IS a difference. In what? > There is NO hypocrisy in condemning those who do MORE cruelty > to animals or advance harm to their bodies or society > through drug use -- NOT less. It's still hypocritical, stupid. > This is what makes Rush Limbaugh a TOTAL hypocrite. Once again, you've proven you cannot stick to the issue at hand. > He condemned pot smokers, even those whose pot smoking caused > no damage to themselves and cost insurers and drug rehab units, Marijuana is not a harmless drug. Anyone who's been run over by a stoned loser can attest that it's intoxicating effects have consequences on other people, not just the jelly-heads who toke it. > demanding extremist prison sentences for them, > who did less damage to society financially than his coked up > fanatic drug habit. Coked up fanatic? No, you ****ing asshole. He became addicted to certain prescribed pain medications like hydrocodone and oxycontin during convalesence of a serious back injury. You may not see much difference between one who takes medication for a medical complaint and then becomes addicted to that medication and another whose addiction is merely recreational. The only similarity is addiction, but at least Rush has recognized it and sought rehab in the past and currently. It's a problem which he'll have to cope with for many years to come. I'm glad, though, you're able to find a silver lining in Rush's -- or anyone's -- suffering. Then again, you've already demonstrated what a caring and compassionate person you are over in aaev. > He even condemned those who themselves took > no illegal drugs, just because they believed in legalizing drugs > for others. Thus, he condemned those who are 100% pure, drug-wise. Non sequitur, and not fully accurate. You apparently missed some of his discussions with William F Buckley, a friend of Rush's and whom he greatly admires, who happens to support legalization of marijuana. Rush certainly didn't condemn Mr Buckley, but neither did he agree with his position on legalization. I encourage you to read the following article. Here are a couple paragraphs that may not change your opinion, but are pretty germane: Rush has hardly been the anti-drug crusader liberals suggest. Indeed, Rush hasn't had much to say about drugs at all since that spinal operation. The Rush Limbaugh quote that has been endlessly recited in the last week to prove Rush's rank "hypocrisy" is this, made eight years ago: "Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up." What precisely are liberals proposing that Rush should have said to avoid their indignant squeals of "hypocrisy"? Announce his support for the wide and legal availability of a prescription painkiller that may have caused him to go deaf and nearly ruined his career and wrecked his life? I believe that would have been both evil and hypocritical. http://tinyurl.com/u32d > I have not heard of this Karen Winter, but from what you describe, > she kills FAR fewer animals, and those she does, more humanely, > than ANYone she condemns. Her slaughter is every bit as inhumane and indiscriminate as anyone's. > More importantly, she is working in > the right direction, No. "Working in the right direction" entails a lot more than talking the talk. It would mean confronting the truth -- that every diet contains some amount of bloodletting, and that no diet is more "ethical" than another. > willing to work with others to find out ways > to further reduce killing animals by advancing technology. Lip service of that sort shouldn't be praised, it should be condemned for what it is. No one is morally superior for talking a good game; indeed, talk is cheap. > Obviously you would condemn WWII veterans for being hypocrites > because some of them killed innocent civilians accidentally in war > while they were trying to fight the Nazis. Non sequitur and yet another sign that you simply cannot engage in a discussion without making an ass out of yourself. |
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I appreciate all those things and lessons about Drug Rehab. Good source of knowledge and information.
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