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A Food Fight Over a Fungus
By Rosie Mestel, Times Staff Writer STOKESLEY, England Refrigerated trucks trundle down the pretty country lanes laden with pale, doughy masses of fungus 32 tons or more a day. "Pure mycoprotein good enough to eat, won't taste of anything, very bland," declares manufacturing manager Pete Willis, tearing off a golf-ball-sized sample from a 2,000-pound glob. Workers in white boots shepherd the fungal paste through a sea of vats and clanking machines that mix, press, slice and dice the raw dough. What comes out at the end is a matter of perspective luscious artificial meat patties that taste just like moist chicken, or dangerous vat-grown "vomit-burgers" that are sickening consumers from coast to coast. The product is Quorn, a fungus-based meat substitute that millions of Europeans have eaten for years. It entered the U.S. market in 2002 to rave reviews by consumers, but was quickly met with a dogged anti-Quorn campaign by an influential consumer group, the Center for Science in the Public Interest. Michael Jacobson, the CSPI's executive director, claims that Quorn, which he derisively terms an "odious" "mold"-based product, makes people ill and he wants every last nugget expunged from American soil. He has started a "Quorn complaints" website, published anti-Quorn letters in medical journals and petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to yank the product, which he likes to note is made by a former subsidiary of the "pharmaceutical juggernaut AstraZeneca." "It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." more at http://tinyurl.com/2yev2 (requires registration) This should be good: the "vegan" foodies just LOOOOOOOVE the Center for (pseudo)Science in the Public Interest when it says something they like; wonder how they're react now? |
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![]() "Jonathan Ball" > wrote in message hlink.net... ... > > "It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea > and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," > Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." > It's a fair point, since if theses were good reasons to ban food products you'd have to ban peanut butter too; and I can't see the USA doing that. Michael Saunby |
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Michael Saunby wrote:
> "Jonathan Ball" > wrote in message > hlink.net... > .. > >>"It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea >>and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," >>Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." >> > > > It's a fair point, since if theses were good reasons to ban food products > you'd have to ban peanut butter too; and I can't see the USA doing that. Uh...how 'bout peanut butter is domestically produced, while the "odious mold" is imported? Just kidding. I don't believe anything that comes out of the egregiously misnamed Center for Science in the Public Interest. I imagine there's very little risk from eating Quorn, and if people want to run the risk, it should be their business. |
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I have tried it and have suffered none of these ill effects except that it
doesn't taste good to me. And when I found out it was milk based, well, never mind.... On 3/12/04 11:46 AM, in article .net, "Jonathan Ball" > wrote: > A Food Fight Over a Fungus > > By Rosie Mestel, Times Staff Writer > > STOKESLEY, England Refrigerated trucks trundle down > the pretty country lanes laden with pale, doughy masses > of fungus 32 tons or more a day. > > "Pure mycoprotein good enough to eat, won't taste of > anything, very bland," declares manufacturing manager > Pete Willis, tearing off a golf-ball-sized sample from > a 2,000-pound glob. > > Workers in white boots shepherd the fungal paste > through a sea of vats and clanking machines that mix, > press, slice and dice the raw dough. > > What comes out at the end is a matter of perspective > luscious artificial meat patties that taste just like > moist chicken, or dangerous vat-grown "vomit-burgers" > that are sickening consumers from coast to coast. > > The product is Quorn, a fungus-based meat substitute > that millions of Europeans have eaten for years. It > entered the U.S. market in 2002 to rave reviews by > consumers, but was quickly met with a dogged anti-Quorn > campaign by an influential consumer group, the Center > for Science in the Public Interest. > > Michael Jacobson, the CSPI's executive director, claims > that Quorn, which he derisively terms an "odious" > "mold"-based product, makes people ill and he wants > every last nugget expunged from American soil. > > He has started a "Quorn complaints" website, published > anti-Quorn letters in medical journals and petitioned > the Food and Drug Administration to yank the product, > which he likes to note is made by a former subsidiary > of the "pharmaceutical juggernaut AstraZeneca." > > "It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea > and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," > Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." > > more at http://tinyurl.com/2yev2 (requires registration) > > This should be good: the "vegan" foodies just > LOOOOOOOVE the Center for (pseudo)Science in the Public > Interest when it says something they like; wonder how > they're react now? > |
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![]() "Jonathan Ball" > wrote in message hlink.net... > A Food Fight Over a Fungus > > By Rosie Mestel, Times Staff Writer > > STOKESLEY, England Refrigerated trucks trundle down > the pretty country lanes laden with pale, doughy masses > of fungus 32 tons or more a day. > > "Pure mycoprotein good enough to eat, won't taste of > anything, very bland," declares manufacturing manager > Pete Willis, tearing off a golf-ball-sized sample from > a 2,000-pound glob. > > Workers in white boots shepherd the fungal paste > through a sea of vats and clanking machines that mix, > press, slice and dice the raw dough. > > What comes out at the end is a matter of perspective > luscious artificial meat patties that taste just like > moist chicken, or dangerous vat-grown "vomit-burgers" > that are sickening consumers from coast to coast. > > The product is Quorn, a fungus-based meat substitute > that millions of Europeans have eaten for years. It > entered the U.S. market in 2002 to rave reviews by > consumers, but was quickly met with a dogged anti-Quorn > campaign by an influential consumer group, the Center > for Science in the Public Interest. > > Michael Jacobson, the CSPI's executive director, claims > that Quorn, which he derisively terms an "odious" > "mold"-based product, makes people ill and he wants > every last nugget expunged from American soil. > > He has started a "Quorn complaints" website, published > anti-Quorn letters in medical journals and petitioned > the Food and Drug Administration to yank the product, > which he likes to note is made by a former subsidiary > of the "pharmaceutical juggernaut AstraZeneca." > > "It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea > and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," > Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." > > more at http://tinyurl.com/2yev2 (requires registration) > > This should be good: the "vegan" foodies just > LOOOOOOOVE the Center for (pseudo)Science in the Public > Interest when it says something they like; wonder how > they're react now? Congratulations ~~jonnie~~ An on- topic posting! Pity it was such a load of crap. 'Quorn' is an excellent product in every respect. It offers the vegetarian such a wide variety of choice cruelty free food. Most products are also suitable for Vegans. It is also a valuable tool for those enlightened people who wish to kick the meat eating habit. 'Quorn' based products and meat taste almost dangerously the same. [A fungus based meat substitute] cut the crap and call it a mushroom. The same way as you call decomposing animal flesh 'Meat'.(Or indeed human flesh if you live in Canada) www.tinyurl.com/3aao3 I did not register, so I could not view the link you provided. Registration mean 'Spam' which unlike 'Quorn' is a meat based product. www.spam.com . I get enough spam asking me if I want to grow 3" extra inches to my penis. It's a complete fallacy, it worked for three courses only. > |
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![]() snip Ray, it (Quorn) is a very close relative to the 'Atheletes foot' fungus. Really, why not just eat a steak? |
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![]() "Bromo" > wrote in message ... > I have tried it and have suffered none of these ill effects except that it > doesn't taste good to me. And when I found out it was milk based, well, > never mind.... It's not milk based Bromo, It's based on good old mushrooms. Get stuck in. < Snip ~~jonnies~~ crap.> > |
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![]() > "Bromo" > wrote in message > ... > > I have tried it and have suffered none of these ill effects except that it > > doesn't taste good to me. And when I found out it was milk based, well, > > never mind.... > > It's not milk based Bromo, It's based on good old mushrooms. > Get stuck in. > I got told by the manufacturers of Quorn that it was not safe for me to eat on a milk-free diet. |
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On 3/12/04 1:27 PM, in article , "Fiona"
> wrote: > >> "Bromo" > wrote in message >> ... >>> I have tried it and have suffered none of these ill effects except that > it >>> doesn't taste good to me. And when I found out it was milk based, well, >>> never mind.... >> >> It's not milk based Bromo, It's based on good old mushrooms. >> Get stuck in. >> > > I got told by the manufacturers of Quorn that it was not safe for me to eat > on a milk-free diet. I believe the raw materials used to "feed" the fungal/mushroom-like culture was milk - and heard that is wasn't vegan, therefore. Go figure. Could easily be wrong... |
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![]() "Benfez" > wrote in message ... > > snip > > Ray, it (Quorn) is a very close relative to the 'Atheletes foot' fungus. > Really, why not just eat a steak? Better yet, why not just eat real mushrooms?? |
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Ray wrote:
> "Jonathan Ball" > wrote in message > hlink.net... > >>A Food Fight Over a Fungus >> >>By Rosie Mestel, Times Staff Writer >> >>STOKESLEY, England Refrigerated trucks trundle down >>the pretty country lanes laden with pale, doughy masses >>of fungus 32 tons or more a day. >> >>"Pure mycoprotein good enough to eat, won't taste of >>anything, very bland," declares manufacturing manager >>Pete Willis, tearing off a golf-ball-sized sample from >>a 2,000-pound glob. >> >>Workers in white boots shepherd the fungal paste >>through a sea of vats and clanking machines that mix, >>press, slice and dice the raw dough. >> >>What comes out at the end is a matter of perspective >>luscious artificial meat patties that taste just like >>moist chicken, or dangerous vat-grown "vomit-burgers" >>that are sickening consumers from coast to coast. >> >>The product is Quorn, a fungus-based meat substitute >>that millions of Europeans have eaten for years. It >>entered the U.S. market in 2002 to rave reviews by >>consumers, but was quickly met with a dogged anti-Quorn >>campaign by an influential consumer group, the Center >>for Science in the Public Interest. >> >>Michael Jacobson, the CSPI's executive director, claims >>that Quorn, which he derisively terms an "odious" >>"mold"-based product, makes people ill and he wants >>every last nugget expunged from American soil. >> >>He has started a "Quorn complaints" website, published >>anti-Quorn letters in medical journals and petitioned >>the Food and Drug Administration to yank the product, >>which he likes to note is made by a former subsidiary >>of the "pharmaceutical juggernaut AstraZeneca." >> >>"It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea >>and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," >>Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." >> >>more at http://tinyurl.com/2yev2 (requires registration) >> >>This should be good: the "vegan" foodies just >>LOOOOOOOVE the Center for (pseudo)Science in the Public >>Interest when it says something they like; wonder how >>they're react now? > > > Congratulations ~~jonnie~~ An on- topic posting! > > Pity it was such a load of crap. > > 'Quorn' is an excellent product in every respect. It offers the vegetarian "severe vomiting, diarrhea and anaphylactic reactions". I'm sure that's just what they want. > such a wide variety of choice cruelty free food. Not cruelty free; not even close. > Most products are also > suitable for Vegans. A kick in the ass is suitable for "vegans". > > It is also a valuable tool for those enlightened people who wish to kick the > meat eating habit. 'Quorn' based products and meat taste almost dangerously > the same. > > [A fungus based meat substitute] cut the crap and call it a mushroom. The > same way as you call decomposing animal flesh 'Meat'.(Or indeed human flesh > if you live in Canada) www.tinyurl.com/3aao3 > > I did not register, so I could not view the link you provided. Registration > mean 'Spam' which unlike 'Quorn' is a meat based product. www.spam.com . I > get enough spam asking me if I want to grow 3" extra inches to my penis. Which would get you to the whopping length of 3.75" > > It's a complete fallacy, it worked for three courses only. > > > |
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Benfez wrote:
> snip > > Ray, it (Quorn) is a very close relative to the 'Atheletes foot' fungus. Mmmmmmmmmmm! Sounds delectable. > Really, why not just eat a steak? > > |
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On 3/12/04 1:27 PM, in article , "Fiona"
> wrote: > >> "Bromo" > wrote in message >> ... >>> I have tried it and have suffered none of these ill effects except that > it >>> doesn't taste good to me. And when I found out it was milk based, well, >>> never mind.... >> >> It's not milk based Bromo, It's based on good old mushrooms. >> Get stuck in. >> > > I got told by the manufacturers of Quorn that it was not safe for me to eat > on a milk-free diet. Oops, here it is from the site, I stand corrected: "How is mycoprotein made? Mycoprotein for Quorn foods is grown using a controlled fermentation process so that it can be harvested consistently. All natural vegetable flavorings are added to the mycoprotein to create the desired flavor, as well as a small amount of egg white. Then it's shaped into great shapes like nuggets, tenders and cutlets." So it has a small amount of egg white in it. Not sure if the food for the culture is milk or not, though....? |
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On 3/12/04 1:39 PM, in article
. net, "Jonathan Ball" > wrote: >> 'Quorn' is an excellent product in every respect. It offers the vegetarian > > "severe vomiting, diarrhea and anaphylactic reactions". > I'm sure that's just what they want. I have tried it and didn't have that reaction. |
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Bromo wrote:
> On 3/12/04 1:39 PM, in article > . net, "Jonathan Ball" > > wrote: > > >>>'Quorn' is an excellent product in every respect. It offers the vegetarian >> >>"severe vomiting, diarrhea and anaphylactic reactions". >>I'm sure that's just what they want. > > > I have tried it and didn't have that reaction. It's the "vegans" themselves provoke that reaction in others. |
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![]() "Benfez" > wrote in message ... > > snip > > Ray, it (Quorn) is a very close relative to the 'Atheletes foot' fungus. > Really, why not just eat a steak? Nah!, you've been reading too much ~~jonnie~~. You can't compare one type of fungi with another. For instance the common field mushroom looks much the same as 'The Death Cap", one difference, one is a very tasty dish and the other kills you.( No Antidote). Be like ~~jonnie~~ and stick with the magic mushrooms. - Ever had any? They proliferate in Michael Saunsby's part of the country - bet he's had some:-) > > |
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"Ray" > wrote in message ...
> [A fungus based meat substitute] cut the crap and call it a mushroom. The > same way as you call decomposing animal flesh 'Meat'.(Or indeed human flesh > if you live in Canada) www.tinyurl.com/3aao3 Read Dr. Maharaj's March 4 post "Human Body Parts in Farm Meat" OR http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/03/10.../pigfarm031004 The meat wasn't commercially distributed, so unless you were a friend of Willy Pickton, you wouldn't have eaten any. |
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![]() "Benfez" > wrote in message ... > > snip > > Ray, it (Quorn) is a very close relative to the 'Atheletes foot' fungus. > Really, why not just eat a steak? > > Well, cannibals eat Athletes feet and they look healthy when I look at the Pictures of the dudes over down there in Borneo. It is the Human brain that carries Kuru. The Borneo Athletes feet must also have Athletes foot fungus - those jungles are as moist as a locker room. I don't see anybody in Borneo the worse for wear because of eating feet? I think I should buy some stock in Dennison - am I right they make the foot powder? I see more itching in the US society but that is about it. Course I like fish and lamb and and turkey and chicken - not to mention smoked oysters. I guess now I am going to be asked to give them up too. Pity really... |
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Jonathan Ball wrote: > It's the "vegans" themselves provoke that reaction in > others. Typical student of Rush Limbaugh and Micheal Savage. Here we see the idiot Mr Ball stereotyping a group of people based on a diet belief or diet advocate but not necessarily diet practice. Their is no such thing as a vegan per se'. Some people try cutting out meat/animal products form their diet others just understand the benefit as well as the draw backs, but just plain understand that we Americans have to much of a rich/fat diet and much of that comes from animal based foods. But if the people that chat here don't grab their ankles for the prison raised white trash Joni Ball he then gives them a label as though anyone that won't bow to his visceral spewing garbage is somehow less then him in some way. What we have here is a guy with a **** poor self esteem. He and Mr Etter have no life other than spewing hateful anger any and all that won't do a virtual ankle grab for them. These guys are trash goof balls that should only be engaged in a discussion for the sole purpose of yanking their chain. Toy with them play them like a fiddle and then just contradict them and disagree any way you can. Use their well learned (plagiarized) argumentative language word for word and throw it right back at them. Then kick back and watch them cry like a baby! These two guys are real Zero assholes. Now go have fun with them (especially the Mr Ball. He is real damaged material!) |
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Jonathan Ball wrote: > * > A kick in the ass is suitable for "vegans". Definition of a bully. - One who chooses easy rargets for threats and harrasment. Coward! You're punk Mr Ball - plain and simple coward punk. You, I am certain have had your ass kicked many times and will have it kicked many times more. You beg for it punk! |
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On 3/12/04 2:04 PM, in article
.net, "Jonathan Ball" > wrote: > Bromo wrote: > >> On 3/12/04 1:39 PM, in article >> . net, "Jonathan Ball" >> > wrote: >> >> >>>> 'Quorn' is an excellent product in every respect. It offers the vegetarian >>> >>> "severe vomiting, diarrhea and anaphylactic reactions". >>> I'm sure that's just what they want. >> >> >> I have tried it and didn't have that reaction. > > It's the "vegans" themselves provoke that reaction in > others. SO it isn't Quorn, then. Thanks for the clarification. Were you present at all the times you saw reching in front of vegans? Just curious. |
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You are an ass Mr Ball. This is only a finding that American diets and
standards are not conducive to a diet that is for those that adapt to it through time. In Africa some tribes make beer by chewing and spitting a moist root. Do you think that it is suitable for sale in the US? You are a stupid asshole to act like this is some kind of finding that "vegan" diet is bad. First time I ate vegemite I spit it out so that I would not vomit. Do you think that you could tell the Ausi's and New Zealanders their diet is invalid? You are joke Ball. Go get a life! You are ****ing dumb ass that is reaching for straws in an argument that you could care less about. You here only as an excuse to be an abusive bully coward punk! Jonathan Ball wrote: > A Food Fight Over a Fungus > > By Rosie Mestel, Times Staff Writer > > STOKESLEY, England Refrigerated trucks trundle down > the pretty country lanes laden with pale, doughy masses > of fungus 32 tons or more a day. > > "Pure mycoprotein good enough to eat, won't taste of > anything, very bland," declares manufacturing manager > Pete Willis, tearing off a golf-ball-sized sample from > a 2,000-pound glob. > > Workers in white boots shepherd the fungal paste > through a sea of vats and clanking machines that mix, > press, slice and dice the raw dough. > > What comes out at the end is a matter of perspective > luscious artificial meat patties that taste just like > moist chicken, or dangerous vat-grown "vomit-burgers" > that are sickening consumers from coast to coast. > > The product is Quorn, a fungus-based meat substitute > that millions of Europeans have eaten for years. It > entered the U.S. market in 2002 to rave reviews by > consumers, but was quickly met with a dogged anti-Quorn > campaign by an influential consumer group, the Center > for Science in the Public Interest. > > Michael Jacobson, the CSPI's executive director, claims > that Quorn, which he derisively terms an "odious" > "mold"-based product, makes people ill and he wants > every last nugget expunged from American soil. > > He has started a "Quorn complaints" website, published > anti-Quorn letters in medical journals and petitioned > the Food and Drug Administration to yank the product, > which he likes to note is made by a former subsidiary > of the "pharmaceutical juggernaut AstraZeneca." > > "It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea > and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," > Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." > > more at http://tinyurl.com/2yev2 (requires registration) > > This should be good:* the "vegan" foodies just > LOOOOOOOVE the Center for (pseudo)Science in the Public > Interest when it says something they like; wonder how > they're react now? |
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![]() "Bromo" > wrote in message ... > On 3/12/04 1:27 PM, in article , "Fiona" > > wrote: > > > > >> "Bromo" > wrote in message > >> ... > >>> I have tried it and have suffered none of these ill effects except that > > it > >>> doesn't taste good to me. And when I found out it was milk based, well, > >>> never mind.... > >> > >> It's not milk based Bromo, It's based on good old mushrooms. > >> Get stuck in. > >> > > > > I got told by the manufacturers of Quorn that it was not safe for me to eat > > on a milk-free diet. > > > Oops, here it is from the site, I stand corrected: > > "How is mycoprotein made? > > Mycoprotein for Quorn foods is grown using a controlled fermentation > process so that it can be harvested consistently. All natural vegetable > flavorings are added to the mycoprotein to create the desired flavor, as > well as a small amount of egg white. Then it's shaped into great shapes like > nuggets, tenders and cutlets." > > So it has a small amount of egg white in it. > > Not sure if the food for the culture is milk or not, though....? Some of the 'Quorn' products do contain egg whites as a binder, therefore they are not suitable for a Vegan diet. However these are few, and it always states this on the label. I spoke to customer service three or four months ago and they informed me that they were looking at other products to use as a binder. I think you will find most of their products are safe for a Vegan diet. > |
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![]() "Jonathan Ball" > wrote in message link.net... > Ray wrote: > > > "Jonathan Ball" > wrote in message > > hlink.net... > > > >>A Food Fight Over a Fungus > >> > >>By Rosie Mestel, Times Staff Writer > >> > >>STOKESLEY, England Refrigerated trucks trundle down > >>the pretty country lanes laden with pale, doughy masses > >>of fungus 32 tons or more a day. > >> > >>"Pure mycoprotein good enough to eat, won't taste of > >>anything, very bland," declares manufacturing manager > >>Pete Willis, tearing off a golf-ball-sized sample from > >>a 2,000-pound glob. > >> > >>Workers in white boots shepherd the fungal paste > >>through a sea of vats and clanking machines that mix, > >>press, slice and dice the raw dough. > >> > >>What comes out at the end is a matter of perspective > >>luscious artificial meat patties that taste just like > >>moist chicken, or dangerous vat-grown "vomit-burgers" > >>that are sickening consumers from coast to coast. > >> > >>The product is Quorn, a fungus-based meat substitute > >>that millions of Europeans have eaten for years. It > >>entered the U.S. market in 2002 to rave reviews by > >>consumers, but was quickly met with a dogged anti-Quorn > >>campaign by an influential consumer group, the Center > >>for Science in the Public Interest. > >> > >>Michael Jacobson, the CSPI's executive director, claims > >>that Quorn, which he derisively terms an "odious" > >>"mold"-based product, makes people ill and he wants > >>every last nugget expunged from American soil. > >> > >>He has started a "Quorn complaints" website, published > >>anti-Quorn letters in medical journals and petitioned > >>the Food and Drug Administration to yank the product, > >>which he likes to note is made by a former subsidiary > >>of the "pharmaceutical juggernaut AstraZeneca." > >> > >>"It seems in the FDA's eyes severe vomiting, diarrhea > >>and anaphylactic reactions do not constitute harm," > >>Jacobson said. "I think that's pathetic." > >> > >>more at http://tinyurl.com/2yev2 (requires registration) > >> > >>This should be good: the "vegan" foodies just > >>LOOOOOOOVE the Center for (pseudo)Science in the Public > >>Interest when it says something they like; wonder how > >>they're react now? > > > > > > Congratulations ~~jonnie~~ An on- topic posting! > > > > Pity it was such a load of crap. > > > > 'Quorn' is an excellent product in every respect. It offers the vegetarian > > "severe vomiting, diarrhea and anaphylactic reactions". > I'm sure that's just what they want. > > > such a wide variety of choice cruelty free food. > > Not cruelty free; not even close. > > > Most products are also > > suitable for Vegans. > > A kick in the ass is suitable for "vegans". > > > > > It is also a valuable tool for those enlightened people who wish to kick the > > meat eating habit. 'Quorn' based products and meat taste almost dangerously > > the same. > > > > [A fungus based meat substitute] cut the crap and call it a mushroom. The > > same way as you call decomposing animal flesh 'Meat'.(Or indeed human flesh > > if you live in Canada) www.tinyurl.com/3aao3 > > > > I did not register, so I could not view the link you provided. Registration > > mean 'Spam' which unlike 'Quorn' is a meat based product. www.spam.com . I > > get enough spam asking me if I want to grow 3" extra inches to my penis. > > Which would get you to the whopping length of 3.75" I prefer to measure it in mm~~jonnie~~ looks better. > > > > > It's a complete fallacy, it worked for three courses only. > > > > > > > |
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![]() "C. James Strutz" > wrote in message ... > > "Benfez" > wrote in message > ... > > > > snip > > > > Ray, it (Quorn) is a very close relative to the 'Atheletes foot' > fungus. > > Really, why not just eat a steak? > > Better yet, why not just eat real mushrooms?? > mmmm...you could make one of those delish portabello mushroom burgers. yum! |
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