On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:05:03 GMT, "T.R.H" > wrote:

>Martha Jones wrote:
>
>> Their suffering is doing me a lot of good because I can enjoy eating
>> their corpses... Much better than chewing some tasteless potatoes.
>>
>> Am I aware of their horrifying living conditions? Yes. Check out
>> www.factoryfarming.com.
>>
>> What is my conclusion? When I grill a steak, I know that I am the king
>> of the animal kingdom. Thankfully, I get to eat animals, not vice
>> versa.
>>
>> Martha
>> LCing since 1/01/2002, 247/152/155
>>
>Me too!
>
>When I tear into a moose or deer steak, I get a warm fuzzy feeling

If you care about human influence on animals, you could feel
good that the meat from a hunted animal involves less animal
deaths than some type of meat substitute like tofu. People who
eat a lot of hunted meat and/or grass raised animal products are
likely to contribute to less overall animal deaths than many veg*ns.
People who eat grass raised animal products also contribute to
decent lives for farm animals, which veg*nism certainly does *not*
contribute to.

>'cause I actually did it a favour, he/she met his/her end quickly and
>painlessly, a 200 grain bullet thru the cranium and it's lights out!
>
>Better that than falling to a pack of wolves and having its hindquarters
>eaten while its bleating/braying until it passes out from shock/lack of
>blood.

It is pathetic that "ARAs" encourage (nonexistent) methods of wildlife
population management which would cause more suffering to wildlife
than human hunting. They encourage things which cause more suffering,
are a threat to the animals 24/7 instead of only during certain seasons
and during daylight hours, and that cause more suffering to young and
baby animals than human hunting:
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"Without hunting, deer and other animals would overpopulate and die of
starvation."
Starvation and disease are unfortunate, but they are nature's way of ensuring that the
strong survive. Natural predators help keep prey species strong by killing only the
sick and weak. Hunters, however, kill any animal they come across or any animal
whose head they think would look good mounted above the fireplace-often the
large, healthy animals needed to keep the population strong. And hunting creates
the ideal conditions for overpopulation. After hunting season, the abrupt drop in
population leads to less competition among survivors, resulting in a higher birth rate.

http://www.peta-online.org/fp/hunt.html
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>Which is usually the way most meet their end (or some similar
>way), animals dying of old age in the wild is very rare,

We don't hear much about animals out there all alone dying from cancer, etc, but
no doubt it goes on. I've heard that foraging animals die because they loose all their
teeth, if they make it that long. One specific example of that was kangaroos. It must
be horrible to die of starvation, in a world surrounded by food like you always have
been, smelling it while you starve to death.

>they usually
>meet their end in a very cruel way, thats how nature works.
>
>MEing since I can remember..
>
>"I kill it, I grill it"
>