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On 5/18/2010 12:46 PM, Rupert wrote:
> On May 19, 12:40 am, "Fred C. > > wrote: >> On 5/18/2010 2:18 AM, Rupert wrote: >> >>> On May 18, 8:13 am, > wrote: >>>> On May 17, 9:51 pm, > wrote: >> >>>>> It takes a smaller amount of land to feed the human population on a >>>>> plant-based diet than on an animal-based diet. What I said was >>>>> obvious, thank you. >> >>>> While your claim might be theoretically correct, it ignores the fact >>>> that all land is not arable and some non-arable land can be used for >>>> grazing. >> >>> I doubt that that would affect the final outcome. >> >> It certainly does. > > Do you have some data to back that up? Shove it, rupie - you know there is non-arable land used for grazing. |
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On May 19, 6:07*am, "Fred C. Dobbs" >
wrote: > On 5/18/2010 12:46 PM, Rupert wrote: > > > > > On May 19, 12:40 am, "Fred C. > > > wrote: > >> On 5/18/2010 2:18 AM, Rupert wrote: > > >>> On May 18, 8:13 am, > * *wrote: > >>>> On May 17, 9:51 pm, > * *wrote: > > >>>>> It takes a smaller amount of land to feed the human population on a > >>>>> plant-based diet than on an animal-based diet. What I said was > >>>>> obvious, thank you. > > >>>> While your claim might be theoretically correct, it ignores the fact > >>>> that all land is not arable and some non-arable land can be used for > >>>> grazing. > > >>> I doubt that that would affect the final outcome. > > >> It certainly does. > > > Do you have some data to back that up? > > Shove it, rupie - you know there is non-arable land used for grazing. We're talking about the proposition "It takes a smaller amount of land to feed the human population on a plant-based diet than on an animal- based diet", nincompoop. You have done nothing to cast doubt on that, because you can't. |
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"Rupert" > wrote
We're talking about the proposition "It takes a smaller amount of land to feed the human population on a plant-based diet than on an animal- based diet", nincompoop. You have done nothing to cast doubt on that, because you can't. ----------> The proposition is misleading, all forms of land use are not equal. Grazing can be done with no harm to the environment at all, in fact it is a benefit, while the cultivation of grain, for example, is very hard on the environment, so the amount of land is not the only issue. |
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On 5/23/2010 11:54 PM, Rupert wrote:
> On May 19, 6:07 am, "Fred C. > > wrote: >> On 5/18/2010 12:46 PM, Rupert wrote: >> >> >> >>> On May 19, 12:40 am, "Fred C. > >>> wrote: >>>> On 5/18/2010 2:18 AM, Rupert wrote: >> >>>>> On May 18, 8:13 am, > wrote: >>>>>> On May 17, 9:51 pm, > wrote: >> >>>>>>> It takes a smaller amount of land to feed the human population on a >>>>>>> plant-based diet than on an animal-based diet. What I said was >>>>>>> obvious, thank you. >> >>>>>> While your claim might be theoretically correct, it ignores the fact >>>>>> that all land is not arable and some non-arable land can be used for >>>>>> grazing. >> >>>>> I doubt that that would affect the final outcome. >> >>>> It certainly does. >> >>> Do you have some data to back that up? >> >> Shove it, rupie - you know there is non-arable land used for grazing. > > We're talking about the proposition "It takes a smaller amount of land > to feed the human population on a plant-based diet than on an animal- > based diet" We're not, ****wit. |
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