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No Meat, No Dairy, No Problem
No Meat, No Dairy, No Problem
Hindu Press International Hinduism Today http://www.hinduismtoday.com Monday, January 2, 2012 New York, USA, December 29, 2011 (By Mark Bittman, food critic for the NY Times) - Among your other resolutions -- do more good? make more money? -- you've probably made the annual pledge to eat better, although this concept may be more often reduced simply to "lose some weight." The weight-loss obsession is both a national need and a neurotic urge (those last five pounds really don't matter, either cosmetically or medically). But most of us do need to eat "better." If defining this betterness has become increasingly more difficult, the core of the answer is known to everyone: eat more plants. And if the diet that most starkly represents this -- veganism -- is no longer considered bizarre or unreasonably spartan, neither is it exactly mainstream. Many vegan dishes, however, are already beloved: we eat fruit salad, peanut butter and jelly, beans and rice, eggplant in garlic sauce. My point here is to make semi-veganism work for you.These recipes serve about four, and in all, the addition of salt and pepper is taken for granted. This is not a gimmick or even a diet. It's a path, and the smart resolution might be to get on it. Read them here. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...pagewanted=all Source - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/ma...pagewanted=all http://www.hinduismtoday.com/blogs-n...lem/11754.html More at: Hinduism Today http://www.hinduismtoday.com Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Since newsgroup posts are being removed by forgery by one or more net terrorists, this post may be reposted several times. |
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:03:18 GMT, and/or www.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote: >No Meat, No Dairy, No Problem > >Hindu Press International >Hinduism Today >http://www.hinduismtoday.com >Monday, January 2, 2012 > >New York, USA, December 29, 2011 (By Mark Bittman, food critic for >the NY Times) - Among your other resolutions -- do more good? make >more money? -- you've probably made the annual pledge to eat better, >although this concept may be more often reduced simply to "lose some >weight." The weight-loss obsession is both a national need and a >neurotic urge (those last five pounds really don't matter, either >cosmetically or medically). But most of us do need to eat "better." > >If defining this betterness has become increasingly more difficult, >the core of the answer is known to everyone: eat more plants. And if >the diet that most starkly represents this -- veganism -- is no >longer considered bizarre or unreasonably spartan, neither is it >exactly mainstream. · Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does. What they try to avoid are products which provide life (and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have to avoid the following items containing animal by-products in order to be successful: tires, paper, upholstery, floor waxes, glass, water filters, rubber, fertilizer, antifreeze, ceramics, insecticides, insulation, linoleum, plastic, textiles, blood factors, collagen, heparin, insulin, solvents, biodegradable detergents, herbicides, gelatin capsules, adhesive tape, laminated wood products, plywood, paneling, wallpaper and wallpaper paste, cellophane wrap and tape, abrasives, steel ball bearings The meat industry provides life for the animals that it slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume animal products from animals they think are raised in decent ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by being vegan. From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. · |
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No Meat, No Dairy, No Problem
No Meat, No Dairy, No Problem
Hindu Press International Hinduism Today http://www.hinduismtoday.com Monday, January 2, 2012 New York, USA, December 29, 2011 (By Mark Bittman, food critic for the NY Times) - Among your other resolutions -- do more good? make more money? -- you've probably made the annual pledge to eat better, although this concept may be more often reduced simply to "lose some weight." The weight-loss obsession is both a national need and a neurotic urge (those last five pounds really don't matter, either cosmetically or medically). But most of us do need to eat "better." If defining this betterness has become increasingly more difficult, the core of the answer is known to everyone: eat more plants. And if the diet that most starkly represents this -- veganism -- is no longer considered bizarre or unreasonably spartan, neither is it exactly mainstream. Many vegan dishes, however, are already beloved: we eat fruit salad, peanut butter and jelly, beans and rice, eggplant in garlic sauce. My point here is to make semi-veganism work for you.These recipes serve about four, and in all, the addition of salt and pepper is taken for granted. This is not a gimmick or even a diet. It's a path, and the smart resolution might be to get on it. Read them here. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...pagewanted=all Source - http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/ma...pagewanted=all http://www.hinduismtoday.com/blogs-n...lem/11754.html More at: Hinduism Today http://www.hinduismtoday.com Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi Om Shanti o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Since newsgroup posts are being removed by forgery by one or more net terrorists, this post may be reposted several times. |
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<dh@.> wrote
> the billions of animals > which are raised for food will always be dependant on consumers > for their existence. · SO WHAT? As a consumer of meat and many other animal products, and a supporter of most farming, I don't give a shit that livestock "depend on consumers for their existence". That is a completely meaningless factoid. |
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:08:21 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
><dh@.> wrote >> the billions of animals >> which are raised for food will always be dependant on consumers >> for their existence. · > >SO WHAT? As a consumer of meat and many other animal products, and a >supporter of most farming, I don't give a shit that livestock "depend on >consumers for their existence". That is a completely meaningless factoid. > Not to those of us who honestly favor decent lives for livestock over elimination. You get a DUUUUH!!! for that one, idiot child. |
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<dh@.> wrote in message ...
> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:08:21 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote: > >><dh@.> wrote >>> the billions of animals >>> which are raised for food will always be dependant on consumers >>> for their existence. · >> >>SO WHAT? As a consumer of meat and many other animal products, and a >>supporter of most farming, I don't give a shit that livestock "depend on >>consumers for their existence". That is a completely meaningless factoid. >> > > Not to those of us who honestly favor decent lives for livestock over > elimination. So it somehow makes you feel good does it? How nice for you, and creepy. FYI "decent lives" is the logical alternative to "bad lives", not to "elimination", "elimination" is the alternative to lives of any quality. |
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:44:16 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
><dh@.> wrote in message ... >> On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 16:08:21 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote: >> >>><dh@.> wrote >>>> the billions of animals >>>> which are raised for food will always be dependant on consumers >>>> for their existence. · >>> >>>SO WHAT? As a consumer of meat and many other animal products, and a >>>supporter of most farming, I don't give a shit that livestock "depend on >>>consumers for their existence". That is a completely meaningless factoid. >>> >> >> Not to those of us who honestly favor decent lives for livestock over >> elimination. > >So it somehow makes you feel good does it? How nice for you, and creepy. LOL!!! Is it "creepy" to you that I can appreciate the lives of livestock I don't consume any parts of too...LOL...or only those I do? If both [chortle] do you think it's *more* creepy that I appreciate those I do consume parts of than those I don't? Why or why not? .. . . >"elimination" is the alternative to lives of any quality. Doy which is why anyone who honestly favors decent lives over elimination should be opposed to elimination, doy again, and your inability to comprehend much less appreciate that significant aspect of the situation is one of the ways you reveal yourself, doy yet again. |
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