Hindu Goddesses of War



One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.

A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
about whom the following story is told on the site ‘Goddesses of War’:

Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
their mouths, out of which Durga was born — a fully grown warrior,
ready to fight.

The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
demons — one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.

On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
“Divine Mother”, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means “Great”
or “Terrific.” She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.

Durga’s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
“The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year’s most major festival
in East India.” These autumn months are when the monsoon’s torrential
rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India’s
main source of fertility.

Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
said that she “protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
and ego.”; At another website it is said that she “symbolizes triumph
over evil.” But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

On Jan 22, 2:42*pm, arah > wrote:
> Hindu Goddesses of War
>
> One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
> of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
> the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
> wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
> excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
> appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
> goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
> to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
>
> A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
> her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
> sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
> about whom the following story is told on the site ‘Goddesses of War’:
>
> Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
> Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
> together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
> their mouths, out of which Durga was born — a fully grown warrior,
> ready to fight.
>
> The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
> and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
> demons — one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
> the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
> within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
>
> On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
> the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
> preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
> “Divine Mother”, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means “Great”
> or “Terrific.” She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter..
>
> Durga’s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
> corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
> “The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year’s most major festival
> in East India.” These autumn months are when the monsoon’s torrential
> rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
> force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India’s
> main source of fertility.
>
> Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
> said that she “protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
> evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
> and ego.”; At another website it is said that she “symbolizes triumph
> over evil.” But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
> scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
> late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
> Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
> as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
> Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
> both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Why does Islam call for killing of idolaters ?
(Koran 9:5 : Verse of the Sword: "Slay the idolaters wherever you
find
them.")

Islam cannot be reformed.


Prophet of Doom
http://www.prophetofdoom.net/


Former Muslims Tell the Truth About Islam
http://www.islam-watch.org/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/

On Jan 22, 2:42*pm, arah > wrote:
> Hindu Goddesses of War

Good. You seem to be learning. God can manifest in any form He/She
chooses!

Islam does not make sense

In article >,
arah > posted:
>
> Hindu Goddesses of War
>
> One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
> of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
> the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
> wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
> excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
> appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
> goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
> to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
>
> A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
> her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
> sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
> about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
>
> Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
> Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
> together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
> their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
> ready to fight.
>
> The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
> and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
> demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
> the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
> within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
>
> On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
> the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
> preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
> =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
> =94
> or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
>
> Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
> corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
> =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
> in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
> rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
> force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
> main source of fertility.
>
> Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
> said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
> evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
> and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
> over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
> scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
> late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
> Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
> as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
> Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
> both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Jan 22, 5:26*pm, and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article >,
> *arah > posted:

> Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Jagadambe!

Please destroy all evil

Protect the good people!

On 1/22/2012 2:47 PM, uNmaivirumbi wrote:
> On Jan 22, 5:26 pm, and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
> Jai Maharaj) wrote:
>> In >,
>> > posted:
>
>> Jai Durga Devi!
>
> Jai Jagadambe!
>
> Please destroy all evil
>
> Protect the good people!
>
>
>
>


Jai Mata Di!


And may Lady Kaka never sing Why This Kolaveri Di.

--
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'ome=shanty

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---------------------------------------------------------------------
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"Jade Muckeraj" aka "The Old Cow of Hawaii" >
tries her best to pretend she is a Hindu -- cutting and pasting, and
even doctoring what others post/write about Hindus/Hinduism on the
internet, deliberately pidginizing Sanskrit and providing wrong
translations, inventing brand new books in the Mahabharat (reducing it
to Muckabharat), stalking and abusing people who disagree with her by
hijacking their posts, and then cuts and pastes about Hindu ethics and
moans self-righteously about honesty -- and succeeds spectacularly in
convincing all, except other jihadi loons, that she is not a Hindu.
She is in fact a creepy jihadi loon, who thinks she owns the newsgroup
s.c.indian, and has absolutely no problem slandering anyone. As a
Indian citizen supposedly, she meddles in US political issues, and
advocates civil war in India.

On 22/01/2012 10:26 PM, Dr. Jai Maharaj Sad Monkey

--
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In article >,
uNmaivirumbi > posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article .=
> com>,
> > =A0arah > posted:
>
> > Jai Durga Devi!
>
> Jai Jagadambe!
>
> Please destroy all evil
>
> Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article >,
fanabba > posted:
>
> On Jan 22, 2:42=A0pm, arah > wrote:
> > Hindu Goddesses of War
> >
> > One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
> > of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
> > the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
> > wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
> > excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
> > appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
> > goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
> > to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
> >
> > A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
> > her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
> > sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
> > about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92=
> :
> >
> > Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
> > Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
> > together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
> > their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
> > ready to fight.
> >
> > The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
> > and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
> > demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
> > the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
> > within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
> >
> > On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
> > the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
> > preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
> > =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Grea=
> t=94
> > or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter=
> ..
> >
> > Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
> > corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
> > =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
> > in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
> > rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
> > force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
> > main source of fertility.
> >
> > Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
> > said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
> > evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
> > and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
> > over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
> > scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
> > late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
> > Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
> > as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
> > Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
> > both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.
>
> Why does Islam call for killing of idolaters ?
> (Koran 9:5 : Verse of the Sword: "Slay the idolaters wherever you
> find
> them.")
>
> Islam cannot be reformed.
>
>
> Prophet of Doom
> http://www.prophetofdoom.net/
>
>
> Former Muslims Tell the Truth About Islam
> http://www.islam-watch.org/
> http://www.faithfreedom.org/

Dhanyavaad for your post!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

Goo.

In article >,
arah > posted:
>
> Hindu Goddesses of War
>
> One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
> of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
> the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
> wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
> excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
> appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
> goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
> to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
>
> A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
> her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
> sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
> about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
>
> Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
> Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
> together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
> their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
> ready to fight.
>
> The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
> and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
> demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
> the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
> within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
>
> On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
> the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
> preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
> =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
> =94
> or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
>
> Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
> corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
> =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
> in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
> rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
> force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
> main source of fertility.
>
> Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
> said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
> evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
> and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
> over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
> scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
> late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
> Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
> as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
> Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
> both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article >,
dh@. posted:
>
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> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.religion.hindu,
> alt.food.vegan,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
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In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

"appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America to
the Far East to the Near East and Europe."

They did not exist in the americas.

<dh@.> wrote
>
>
> Goo.

I must say, it's kind of nice you are able to have fun posting to a
newsgroup, that's great. But honestly, you are a like a crippled kid wearing
water wings splashing around during a competitive swim meet.

In article >,
dh@. posted:
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In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:14:23 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:

><dh@.> wrote
>>
>>
>> Goo.
>
>I must say, it's kind of nice you are able to have fun posting to a
>newsgroup, that's great. But honestly, you are a like a crippled kid wearing
>water wings splashing around during a competitive swim meet.

Then you're like a retarded kid who fell in and drowned because he couldn't
swim.

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arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

<dh@.> wrote in message ...
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:14:23 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>
>><dh@.> wrote
>>>
>>>
>>> Goo.
>>
>>I must say, it's kind of nice you are able to have fun posting to a
>>newsgroup, that's great. But honestly, you are a like a crippled kid
>>wearing
>>water wings splashing around during a competitive swim meet.
>
> Then you're like a retarded kid who fell in and drowned because he
> couldn't
> swim.

I'm being completely serious, you're a laughing stock.

On Jan 23, 1:22*am, uNmaivirumbi > wrote:
> Good. You seem to be learning. God can manifest in any form He/She
> chooses!


Is there anyone who still believe in those crap about Hindu Goddesses
of War ???


If they can't learn from the story of Prophet Abraham, something wrong
with their brain!!!


Prophet Ibrahim
The father of the Prophets


The birth of a Great Prophet

Ibrahim was born in a house of idolaters, in the kingdom of Babylon.
His father Aazar was a well known idol sculptor that his people
worshipped. As a young child, Ibrahim used to watch his father
sculpting these idols from stones or wood. When his father was done
with them, Ibrahim would use them as toys, riding on their backs, and
kicking them at times. Then after a while, he would see these same
statues in the temple, and people prostrating in front of them!
Ibrahim asked his father: "Why do you take these toys to the temple?"
His father said: "They are statues that represent our gods. We worship
them, we ask favors from them, and we offer them presents." Ibrahim's
mind rejected this idea, and he felt a repulsion towards the idols.


In search for the Truth

Time went by, and Ibrahim became a young man. He still could not
believe that his people were worshipping the statues. He laughed
whenever he saw them entering the temple, lowering their heads,
silently offering the statues the best of their food, crying and
asking forgiveness from them. He started feeling angry towards his
people, who could not realize that these are only stones that could
neither benefit nor harm them. They could not be gods, they have no
power. God is Greater than what his people were worshipping, Most
Powerful, Most Magnificent. One could not find Him sitting on a table
in a temple!

One night, Ibrahim went up to the mountain, leaned against a rock, and
looked up to the sky. He saw a shining star, and told his people:
"Could this be my Lord?" But when it set he said: "I don't like those
that set." The star has disappeared, it could not be God. God is
always present. Then he saw the moon rising in splendor and told them:
"Could this be my Lord?" But it also set. At daybreak, he saw the sun
rising and said: t "Could this be my Lord, this is bigger?" But when
the sun set he said: "O my people I am free from all that you join as
partners with Allah! I have turned my face towards Him Who created the
heavens and the earth, and never shall I give partners to Allah." Our
Lord is the Creator of the heavens and the earth and everything. He
has the power to make the stars rise and set. Ibrahim then heard Allah
calling him: "O Ibrahim!" Ibrahim said trembling: "Here I am O my
Lord!" "Submit to Me! Be a Muslim!" Ibrahim fell on the ground,
prostrating and crying, he said: "I submit to the Lord of the
universe!" Ibrahim kept prostrating until night came again. He got up
and went back to his home, in t peace, full of conviction that Allah
has guided him to the Truth.


Ibrahim invites his father to Islam

A new life started for Ibrahim. His mission now was to call his people
to the Truth. He would start with his father who was the closest
person to him, and whom he loved so much. He said to him in the
softest and kindest voice: "O father! Why do you worship that which
doesn't hear, doesn't see, and cannot avail you in anything? O father,
I have got knowledge which you have not, so follow me. I will guide
you to a straight path." His father replied angrily: "Do you reject my
gods, O Ibrahim? If you don't stop I will stone you. Get away from me
before I punish you." Ibrahim said: "Peace be on you! I will ask
forgiveness of my Lord for you."


Ibrahim confronts his people and rejects their idols

He left his father after he lost hope to convert him to the right
path, and directed his efforts towards the people of the town, but
they rejected his call and threatened him. By Allah, he said, I shall
plot a plan to destroy their idols. He knew that a big celebration was
coming soon, where everybody would leave town for a big feast on the
riverbank. After making sure that nobody was left in town, Ibrahim
went towards the temple armed with an ax. Statues of all shapes and
sizes were sitting there adorned with decorations. Plates of food were
offered to them, but the food was untouched. "Well, why don't you eat?
The food is getting cold." He said to the statues, joking; then with
his ax he destroyed all the statues except one, the biggest of them.
He hung the ax around its neck and left.

How big was the shock when the people entered the temple! They
gathered inside watching in awe their gods broken in pieces. They
wondered who might have done this? Then they all remembered that the
young Ibrahim was talking evil of their idols. They brought him to the
temple and asked him: "Are you the one who has done this to our gods?"
Ibrahim said: "No, this statue, the biggest of them has done it. Ask
them if they can speak." "You know well that these idols don't speak!"
They said impatiently. "Then how come you worship things that can
neither speak nor see, nor even fend for themselves? Have you lost
your minds?"

They kept silent for a while, for he got a point there. Their minds
and their senses were telling them that the Truth is with Ibrahim, but
their pride prevented them to accept it, and reject the idols they
were worshipping for generations. This they thought would be total
defeat. They started yelling at him and shouting: "Burn him! Burn him!
Take revenge for your gods !"


The Miracle: Allah saves Ibrahim from the fire.

The decision to burn Ibrahim to death was affirmed by the priests and
the king of Babylon, Nimrod. The news spread like a fire in the
kingdom, and people were coming from all places to watch the
execution. A huge pit was dug up and a large quantity of wood was
piled up. Then the biggest fire people ever witnessed was lit. The
fire flames were so high up in the sky that the birds could not fly
over it for fear of being burned ! Ibrahim's hands and feet were
chained, and he was put in a catapult to throw him into the fire. At
that time, Angel Jibreel came to him and said: "O Ibrahim! Is there
anything you wish for?" Ibrahim could have asked to be saved from the
fire, to be taken away, but no, he said: "I only wish that Allah be
pleased with me." The catapult was released, and Ibrahim was thrown in
the heart of the fire. But Allah would not allow His Prophet to be
killed, He ordered the fi "O fire! Be coolness and safety for
Ibrahim!" And the miracle happened. The fire obeyed and burned only
his chains. Ibrahim came out from it as if he was coming out from a
garden, peaceful, his face illuminated, and not a trace of smoke on
his clothes. People watched in shock and said: "Amazing ! Ibrahim' s
God has saved him from the fire!"


Ibrahim debates the Babylonian king, Nimrod

Ibrahim's notoriety grew bigger after this event and the king of
Babylon felt that his throne was in danger, and that he was loosing
power, because he was pretending that he was a god. He sent for
Ibrahim. He wanted to debate with him and show his people that he, the
king is indeed the god, and Ibrahim was a liar. He asked Ibrahim: What
can your god do that I cannot?

-My Lord is He Who gives life and death." Ibrahim said
-I give life and death. I can bring a person from the street and have
him executed, and I can grant my pardon to a person who was sentenced
to death and save his life." The king said proudly
-Well my Lord Allah makes the sun rise from the East. Can you make it
rise from the West?
The king was confounded. He was beaten at his own game, on his own
territory, in front of his own people! Ibrahim left him there
speechless and went back to his important mission, calling people to
worship the one and only God, Allah.


Allah blesses Ibrahim with a son to become a prophet

Only a woman named Sarah and a man named Lot believed in Allah, and
followed Ibrahim. He realized that nobody else would listen to him,
and decided to emigrate for the cause of Allah, and to spread His
Message elsewhere. Before leaving, he tried once again to convert his
father to Islam, but to no avail. Ibrahim said to his father and his
people: "We are free of you and of whatever you worship besides Allah.
We have rejected you and there has arisen between us and you enmity
and hatred forever unless you believe in Allah and Him alone."

Ibrahim, Lot and Sarah started their long travel. They crossed
Babylon, went through Syria and Palestine calling people to Allah,
helping the poor and doing good deeds. By that time Ibrahim married
Sarah. Their hope was to have children who would spread the Message of
Allah after their death. As for Lot, he emigrated to the land of Sodom
and settled there.

Time went by and no children were born to Sarah. She realized she was
sterile. She accepted her fate and submitted to the will of Allah.
Ibrahim and Sarah moved to Egypt where the king gave Sarah a woman to
be her servant. The woman's name was Hajar. Sarah was seeing Ibrahim'
s hair getting white, and it grieved her to see his chance of having
any child slipping away. She offered Hajar her servant as a wife to
her husband, and prayed Allah to bless Hajar and Ibrahim with a child.
And so came Ismail, a baby boy born to Hajar. How unselfish Sarah was!
For her, the need to have an offspring who would carry the Message
after Ibrahim was greater than her pride. Fourteen years later Allah
rewarded Sarah with a son, Ishaq in spite of her old age.


Young Ismail and his mother alone in the desert of Makkah

Ibrahim woke up one day and asked Hajar to prepare herself and baby
Ismail for a long travel. Ibrahim and Hajar kept walking, crossed a
fertile land followed by barren mountains till they arrived at the
Arabian desert. Ibrahim brought Hajar to a high hill called al-Marwa,
made her and her baby sit under a tree, placed a bag of dates and some
water near her, and set out homeward. Hajar ran after him and said:
"Are you going to leave us in this desert where there is no one to
keep us company?" She repeated this many times but he would not look
back at her. She asked: "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said yes.
"Then He will not neglect us." She said. Ibrahim walked away until he
got out of their sight, he raised his hands and prayed Allah: "O our
Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley with no
cultivation, by Your Sacred House, in order that they may offer
prayers. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and
provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks."


Zamzam

Hajar went on nursing Ismail and drinking from the water until it was
all used up. She became very thirsty and the child was crying. She
left him on the al-Marwa hill and hurried to the nearest hill, as-
Safa. She stood there and started looking at the valley keenly so that
she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She descended
from as-Safa, crossed the valley running and reached al-Marwa hill.
She stood and started looking but could see nobody. She kept running
between as-Safa and al-Marwa seven times. When she reached al-Marwa
for the last time, she was exhausted, she sat next to the baby. Then
she heard a voice. She stood up and said: "O whoever you might be!
Have you got something to help me?' She saw an angel, Angel Jibreel,
digging the earth until water flowed ! She built a little basin around
it. She scooped water with her hands, drank, filled her water-skin,
and nursed her baby. The place from which water flowed was Zamzam.
Muslims till this day drink from the holy water of Zamzam, and during
Hajj they walk between as-Safa and al-Marwa seven times to commemorate
this event.

Some Arabs traveling through Makkah saw birds flying around alMarwa.
"They must be flying around water." They said. When they arrived at
the water, they found Hajar and asked her: "Would you allow us to stay
with you, and use the water from your well?" She agreed and was
pleased by their company. The people sent for their families, settled
there and became permanent residents. The whole valley became alive.
Ismail grew up, learned Arabic, and later married a woman from amongst
the Arabs.

Meanwhile, Ibrahim who had not seen his son since he was a baby, came
back to Makkah to visit him. Upon arriving, he heard that Hajar had
died, but Ismail was still living there. Ibrahim was yearning to see
his son whom he loved and missed a lot. He saw Ismail under a tree
near Zamzam, sharpening his arrows. When he saw his father, Ismail
rose up, hugged him and greeted him. It was the happiest moment for
both father and son. But Allah wanted to put them to test, and it was
a tough test indeed. During one night, Ibrahim had a dream. He came to
Ismail and said: "O my son ! I have seen in a dream that I am
slaughtering you as a sacrifice to Allah, so what do you think?" They
both realized that this was an order from Allah. Ismail said without
hesitation: "Do what you are commanded, you shall find me very patient
insha Allah." They had both submitted to the will of Allah. Ibrahim
laid his son prostrate, put his forehead on the ground and directed a
sharp knife towards his neck. At this very moment, Allah called him:
"O Ibrahim! You have fulfilled the dream! Thus do We reward the good
doers !" A big sheep was sent down from heaven to be slaughtered
instead of Ismail, which Ibrahim did, and they both had a big
celebration that day. This event is celebrated every year by all
Muslims. It is Eid al-Adha where we slaughter the sacrificial sheep.

Ibrahim and Ismail kept on calling people to worship Allah. At that
time there was no place built for the worship of Allah. Ibrahim wished
there could be such a place where people would be in peace, and
concentrate solely for the worship of Allah. His wish was answered
when Allah ordered him to build the Sacred House, the Ka'bah. Ibrahim
said to Ismail: "O Ismail, Allah has given me an order, will you help
me execute it?" "Yes I will." Ismail said. "Allah has ordered me to
build a house here." He said, pointing to a hillock higher than the
land surrounding it. They went towards the place and started building
the foundations of the Ka'bah Ismail brought the stones and Ibrahim
built the walls, and when the walls became high, Ismail brought a
large stone and put it in front of his father who stood over it and
carried on building, while Ismail was handing him the stones. Both of
them went on building and going around the Ka'bah, saying: "O our Lord
accept this service from us." When they finished the building, Angel
Jibreel descended from heaven and showed Ibrahim the rituals of Hajj.
Then Ibrahim stepped on the stone and called on people: "O people obey
your Lord." This large stone which Ibrahim stepped on is still there
to this day near the Ka'bah. It is called Makam Ibrahim.

Thus ends the story of Ibrahim, the father of the prophets. From him
descended all the prophets who came later, including Muhammad,
sallallahu alayhe wa sallam. Ibrahim devoted all his life calling
others to the True religion: Islam. Alone he stood against his people,
his father, and even the mighty king of Babylon, and never flinched.
Yet his method was always to gradually persuade them by bringing
irrefutable proofs, that most often embarrassed those who refused to
accept the Truth, but as Allah said: "Any whom Allah leaves to stray,
there is none to guide !"


http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/ibrahim.htm

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In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Feb 3, 12:06*pm, arah > wrote:
> On Jan 23, 1:22*am, uNmaivirumbi > wrote:

> Is there anyone who still believe in *those crap about Hindu Goddesses
> of War ???
>
> If they can't learn from the story of Prophet Abraham, something wrong
> with their brain!!!

Typical arrogance from a muslim i.e., low intelligence and culture



>
> Prophet Ibrahim
> The father of the Prophets
>
> The birth of a Great Prophet

You are trying to tell me this makes sense!

You agree Ismail was a ******* born to Abraham and Hagar (gifted by
Sarah!- was she a pimp?)

Who told you Abraham was a prophet and saw and spoke to God? Is koran
spoken by God directly to Mohammad? Who spoke the koran? Can you
clarify from the koran?

Only an idiot will believe Mohammad was a prophet of god when God
never spoke to him directly and Mohammad never could verify it was an
angel. It could have been the devil Going by the content of koran, it
was the devil sanctioning rape of nonmuslim women( ma malakat
aymanukum etc). It allows prostitution as well

You decide what people should believe?

You say God cannot come if a form? Who told you God is limited that
way? Who told you you can worship an infinite Formless God? Infinite
Formless cannot be worshiped, for your info. You can pretend to do so
but it is fake. No finite mind can even conceive of the infinite
Formless God to worship. Infinite Formless God encompasses everything
which includes your puny brain and mind and universe. So you cannot
worship!

You have no knowledge of who God is so stop your pretensions and
arrogance

Answer if you can

On Feb 6, 8:27*am, arah > wrote:
> Concept of God in Islam

Junk brainless repetition.

Who and what is God?

Do you say Mohammad heard anything from God directly? Or did he hear
from some one he assumed was an angel? How did he verify it was an
angel? Why could it not be the devil going by the contents of koran
which is evil in many places such as ma malakat aymanukum allowing
Muslims to sexually exploit non-Muslim women, allowing rape of Ayesha
etc etc

Do you realize you do not worship God at all as Formless Infinite God
cannot be worshiped by man with finite mind?

What is the nature of this God who you write about? Is God
omnipresent, Omnipotent and omniscient?

If God is omnipotent why cannot He come in a form and be limited to
formlessness?

If He is omnipresent, is He is the trees and rivers? Is the universe
in God or "outside" God?

If He is omniscient, why does He allow evil such as Bin Ladin?

Answer if you have any guts

Do not evade and parrot the same cut and paste articles

We are Hindus and will debate and will *never accept anything blindly*
like your fellow Muslims!

In article >,
dh@. posted:
>
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> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.religion.hindu,
> alt.food.vegan,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
> Subject: Sad Monkey
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> Goo.

In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 18:57:32 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:

>
><dh@.> wrote in message ...
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:14:23 -0800, "Dutch" > wrote:
>>
>>><dh@.> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Goo.
>>>
>>>I must say, it's kind of nice you are able to have fun posting to a
>>>newsgroup, that's great. But honestly, you are a like a crippled kid
>>>wearing
>>>water wings splashing around during a competitive swim meet.
>>
>> Then you're like a retarded kid who fell in and drowned because he
>> couldn't swim.
>
>I'm

You're naked too. You can't swim because you can't defend the concept of
livestock raised only for pet food, and because you can't say how you want us to
think anticonsideration is superior to having consideration. You're naked
because as you extremely poorly try to pretend to be opposed to the misnomer you
clearly reveal yourself as an eliminationist in a number of ways.

"you should become a vegan. I've been saying that to you
for years." - "Dutch"

"I am an animal rights believer." - "Dutch"

"we must have at least the same right as every animal does,
which is to seek to compete successfully, sustain ourselves
and thrive." - "Dutch"

In article >,
dh@. posted:
>
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> alt.food.vegan,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
> Subject: Sad Monkey
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 15:33:52 -0500
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>
> Goo.

In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Feb 7, 2:23*pm, arah > wrote:

> Let me share a precious story about the first revelation received by
> our beloved Prophet Muhammad s.a.w happened in Hira’ Cave. The Gabriel
> came and said to Muhammad: Read! And Muhammad said: I cannot read.
> After that, the Gabriel asks Muhammad to read again in 3 times.
> Finally, he felt so scare and exhausted. Thus, the Gabriel hugs Him to
> calm our Prophet.

I asked many questions. You answered not one. Let me focus on one.

How do you know it was Gabriel Mohammad spoke to? How did Mohammad
know it was Gabriel? How did he verify that? Do you know that Mohammad
thought it was a ghost and it was *Khadija* suggested it could be
Gabriel!

Anyway God did not ever speak to Mohammad. So claiming Koran is from
God is false

Secondly what about ma malakat aymanukum sanctioning sexual abuse of
captured nonmuslim women in war?

Just focus on these and I will ask for the rest later. Dont evade
again

On 2/8/2012 9:55 AM, arah wrote:
> O you who believe! Believe in Allh, and His Messenger (Muhammad Õáì
> Çááå Úáíå æÓáã), and the Book (the Qur’n) which He has sent down to
> His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before
> (him); and whosoever disbelieves in Allh, His Angels, His Books, His
> Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away.
>

Yuck! No thanks. Save this crap for His Gullibles, His Quadrupeds, and
His Boom-Boom Artists.


--
VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty

About goon 'Myself, Mallu. Yourself?' (V. Bhattathiri)
> and the goon's flunky and sexual pervert
Dayashankar M. Joshi 'DMJoshi' >
[Rakesh Tiwari, Satish Kumar write]

About the terrorist Goon Squad:

As everyone knows, a goon is a bully or thug who terrorizes or tries
to do away with opposition.

"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri) >
tries his best to be a bully -- telling others what and when to post,
where to post and where not to post, deliberately publishing lies
about others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but fails
miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his lap dog Prem
Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah" >, and issues
*death threats* to people), is priming himself for conditions such as
stroke and heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" > who displays
unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and the instigator who
posts as "Bholu" >

The Goon Squad currently post most of their abuse through eternal-
september.org and by writing someone else's name or handle in the
"From:" header -- their favorite now is " (note
the extra "b" and "gmail.com") to make it appear as if the posts are
from ", who has been a regular poster for many years.
-Updated on February 2, 2012-

-----

Sexual pervert Dayashankar Joshi

Take proven sexual pervert Dayashankar M. Joshi to see his
psychiatrist

In article >,
Rakesh > posted:
>
> On Jul 21, 11:55=C2=A0am, Satish Kumar > wrote:
>> On Jul 21, 2:01=C2=A0am, DMJoshi > wrote:
>>
>>> On Jul 21, 9:33=C2=A0am, Satish Kumar > wrote:
>>
>>>> On Jul 21, 1:28=C2=A0am, DMJoshi > wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Jul 21, 9:24=C2=A0am, Satish Kumar > wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:52=C2=A0am, DMJoshi > wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 8:44=C2=A0am, Satish Kumar > wrote=
> :
>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:25=C2=A0am, DMJoshi > wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 8:15=C2=A0am, Satish Kumar > w=
> rote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 10:37=C2=A0pm, DMJoshi > wro=
> te:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:25=C2=A0pm, Satish Kumar =
> m> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 6:31=C2=A0am, DMJoshi > =
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 10:33=C2=A0pm, Rakesh <rtiwary...@yahoo.=
> com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshijee, what is you relationship with Harrow's =
> Saeeda Khan?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not that I remember unless she is your mother.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> His Holeness Dayananda Joshi's memory wasn't notewort=
> hy even at the
>>>>>>>>>>>> best of times. Now at 73, it may have become worse un=
> less His Holeness
>>>>>>>>>>>> is indulging in subterfuge by feigning forgetfulness.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Saeeda Khan may have come to know His Holeness Dayash=
> ankar Joshi
>>>>>>>>>>>> through Hansaben. Saeeda Khan and Hansa Joshi were bo=
> th born and
>>>>>>>>>>>> brought up in East Africa.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How did your mother come to know me?
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stop hallucinating. Nobody's mother or sister wants to kn=
> ow you.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Yours are dripping sticky on their =E0=A4=AB=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=
> =A6=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=A6=E0=A5=80s
>>
>>>>>>>> You are already 73
>>
>>>>>>> And yet it is my =E0=A4=B2=E0=A5=8C=E0=A4=A1=E0=A4=BE
>>>>>>> that is on your mind all your waking hours and
>>>>>>> in your dreams.
>>
>>>>>> Get a grip on yourself. Your catheter-ridden penis
>>
>>>>> How do you know of it if you did not suck it?
>>
>>>> Your male nurse at Nothwick Park Hospital has been
>>>> bad-mouthing your catheter-ridden penis.
>>
>>> You are sucking his =E0=A4=B2=E0=A5=8C=E0=A4=A1=E0=A4=BE as well.
>>
>> At 73, you do yourself no favor by indulging in such fantasies.
>> Without a course correction, you are certain to return to earth as a
>> cockroach in your next life.
>>
>> If you are not ready for vanaprastha, try reading the Geeta. If you
>> try sincerely, you might be able to shake your mind off such unholy
>> dreams.
>>
>> BTW, does Hansa Joshi know about your posts? Or do you do them behind
>> Hansaben's back? Be careful. If she ever comes to know of your dirty
>> posts, she might make you =C2=A0gulp down a bottle of drain cleaner to
>> cleanse you of filthy dreams.
>>
>
> This indeed is the real problem for DM Joshi - he is endangering not
> just his future in th next world but even his present in this world.
>
>
> Hansa Joshi is unlikely to take kindly to DM Joshi if she finds out
> what he has been posting behind her back. And, then, yes, Hansaben
> might very well force drain cleaner into DM Joshi to unclog the filthy
> dreams bottled inside him.

Take proven sexual pervert Dayashankar M. Joshi to see his psychiatrist

Dayashankar has proven himself to be quite vulgar of mind and
expression. He has also demonstrated that he publishes lies as well
as malicious defamataion based on lies.

One may wish to contact Deep Joshi, Hansaben Joshi, Vikesh Khakhar
and Rashmi Khakhar about making sure that sexual pervert Dayashankar
M. Joshi gets to see his psychiatrist regularly. Perhaps they can
help.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

[ Subject: His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear
[ of withdrawal pains
[ From: Rakesh >
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.gujarati,
[ soc.culture.indian.marathi,soc.culture.indian.delh i,
[ soc.culture.indian.kerala
[ Message-ID: <edef513e-1aa4-4e48-9ce2-
[ >
[ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
[
[
[ On Jul 19, 12:25 pm, Satish Kumar > wrote:
[[ On Jul 17, 12:05 am, DMJoshi > wrote:
[[ On 7/18/2011 4:10 AM, DMJoshi wrote:
[[
[[[[ When Bhadve do Bhadwai what do they sell after they have
[[[[ oversold their own holes?
[[
[[[ You are hankering for that for your mother and sisters no doubt.
[[
[[ His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear of withdrawal
[[ pains:
[[
[[ His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is addicted to fantasies about
[[ committing "Back Hole Balaatkaar" upon fellow netizens, their mothers
[[ and their sisters. He needs psychiatric care. But so afraid is His
[[ Holeness Dayashankar Joshi about withdrawal pains from trying to kick
[[ his addiction that he would rather jump off the Kenton Bridge or gulp
[[ down a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner than seek psychiatric care.
[[
[[ If His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is not comfortable with his court-
[[ appointed psychiatrist at Cygnet Hospital, he should heed Hansa
[[ Joshi's advice to go to another psychiatrist. Unfortunately, Hansa
[[ Joshi is yet to persuade His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi to pay a visit
[[ to a psychiatrist at the Northwick Park Hospital which has an
[[ excellent psychiatric ward.
[
[ What does Harrow woman Saeeda Khan have to do with DM Joshi? Is she
[ Joshijee's employer? Psychiatrist? Nurse? Landlord ?
[
[ Has Joshijee been day dreaming about "mounting" Saeeda Khan's "back
[ hole" as well?
[
[ Joshijee needs to overcome his fear of withdrawl pain in coping with
[ his mental addiction to "back holes". The sooner he seeks psychiatric
[ help the better.
[
[ Hansa Joshi is to be commended for her efforts to get Joshijee
[ admitted into Northwick Park Hospital. Good psychiatric care would
[ make a big difference to the quality of whaever is left of 73-year
[ Joshijee's life.
[
[ Hansaben has my sympathies. She is in my thoughts and prayers. May
[ her efforts make a difference in Joshijee' remaining life.
[
[ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[
[ Subject: His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear
[ of withdrawal pains
[ From: Satish Kumar >
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.gujarati,
[ soc.culture.indian.marathi,soc.culture.indian.delh i,
[ soc.culture.indian.kerala
[ Message-ID: <88d0e589-e837-4174-88b4-
[ >
[ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
[
[
[ On Jul 19, 2:25*pm, Rakesh [ wrote:
[[ On Jul 19, 12:25 pm, Satish Kumar [ wrote:
[[
[[[ On Jul 17, 12:05 am, DMJoshi [ wrote:
[[[ On 7/18/2011 4:10 AM, DMJoshi wrote:
[[
[[[[[ When Bhadve do Bhadwai what do they sell after they have
[[[[[ oversold their own holes?
[[
[[[[ You are hankering for that for your mother and sisters no doubt.
[[
[[[ His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear of withdrawal
[[[ pains:
[[
[[[ His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is addicted to fantasies about
[[[ committing "Back Hole Balaatkaar" upon fellow netizens, their mothers
[[[ and their sisters. He needs psychiatric care. But so afraid is His
[[[ Holeness Dayashankar Joshi about withdrawal pains from trying to kick
[[[ his addiction that he would rather jump off the Kenton Bridge or gulp
[[[ down a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner than seek psychiatric care.
[[
[[[ If His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is not comfortable with his court-
[[[ appointed psychiatrist at Cygnet Hospital, he should heed Hansa
[[[ Joshi's advice to go to another psychiatrist. Unfortunately, Hansa
[[[ Joshi is yet to persuade His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi to pay a visit
[[[ to a psychiatrist at the Northwick Park Hospital which has an
[[[ excellent psychiatric ward.
[[
[[ What does Harrow woman Saeeda Khan have to do with DM Joshi? Is she
[[ Joshijee's employer? Psychiatrist? Nurse? Landlord ?
[[
[[ Has Joshijee been day dreaming about "mounting" Saeeda Khan's "back
[[ hole" as well?
[[
[[ Joshijee needs to overcome his fear of withdrawl pain in coping with
[[ his mental addiction to "back holes". The sooner he seeks psychiatric
[[ help the better.
[[
[[ Hansa Joshi is to be commended for her efforts to get Joshijee
[[ admitted into Northwick Park Hospital. Good psychiatric care would
[[ make a big difference to the quality of whaever is left of 73-year
[[ Joshijee's life.
[[
[[ Hansaben has my sympathies. She is in my thoughts and prayers. May
[[ her efforts make a difference in Joshijee' remaining life.
[
[ Saeeda Khan may have come to know His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi
[ through Hansaben. Saeeda Khan and Hansa Joshi were both born and
[ brought up in East Africa. Now Saeeda Khan and Dayashankar Joshi are
[ both in trouble with the law. Here's a post by His Holeness
[ Dayashankar Joshi on Saeeda Lhan:
[
[ On Oct 26 2010, 2:16*am, DMJoshi [ wrote:
[[ On Sep 14, 8:10*am, DMJoshi [ wrote:
[[
[[[http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/83...ea_in_first_mo...
[[
[[[ Wonder from where on Indian subcontinent her ancestors migrated to
[[[ Tanzania(Tangnika)
[[
[[ She is going to be prosecuted
[[
[[ http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/84...to_face_trial_...
[[
[[ There was a Gujarati Hindu woman very likey from Harow or Brent who
[[ was jailed for long period for the same crime.
[
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

-----

In article >,
Rakesh > posted:
>
> On Jul 20, 2:00 am, Satish Kumar > wrote:
>> On Jul 20, 1:47 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
>>
>> > wrote:
>>> On 7/20/2011 1:37 AM, Satish Kumar wrote:
>>
>>>> On Jul 20, 1:19 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> On 7/18/2011 3:36 PM, Rakesh wrote:
>>
>>>>>> On Jul 18, 5:04 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/18/2011 4:10 AM, DMJoshi wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 11:59 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> Bhadave ho ya naheen, inki maa-behen se kya taalluq?
>>
>>>>>>>> When Bhadve do Bhadwai what do they sell after they have
>>>>>>>> oversold their own holes?
>>
>>>>>>> Namaaloom.
>>
>>>>>> crap deleted
>>
>>>>> Based on this rant of yours, all I can say is "pot-kettle-
>>>>> black." No one ever compelled you to reply to Joshiji's posts,
>>>>> esp. if you did not think highly of them in the first place.
>>
>>>> Tiwary might not care much for your "whiter than pot-kettle"
>>>> posturing either. But I suspect he might consider sympathizing
>>>> with you if His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi comments on "back
>>>> holes" that are closer to you than were in this case..
>>
>>> ********! I do not give Joshiji the opportunity to make such
>>> comments to me. You write provocatively, you'll get your
>>> comeuppance. Spare me the crap.
>>
>> Not impressed with your rant. Look through His Holeness
>> Dayashankar Joshi's posts in this thread. If "writing
>> provocatively" is the excuse, then His Holeness Dayashankar
>> Joshi has nothing to complain about - he had asked for what
>> he got from Tiwary.
>>
>> Tiwary himself has commented on this in previous posts - by
>> selectively taking exception to posts by His Holeness dayashankar
>> Joshi's victims, you are either unwittingly or deliberately
>> encouraging him to make "such comments".
>
> Precisely.
>
> Satishjee, I can quite understand why you are unimpressed by Shriman
> Bhattahiri's show of indignant outrage.
>
> And, anyway, Shriman Bhattahiri lives in a glass house. His posts are
> seldom anything other than of the "provocative/patronizing" genre. But
> that should never be an acceptable excuse for anyone to indulge in
> fantasies about Shriman Bhattahiri's "back hole" or that of his mother
> and sisters. I can't quite fathom why Sriman Bhattahiri has taken to
> upholding His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi's penchant for sodomy-laced
> vulgar outbursts. Does he hope to get named in Joshijee's will ?!
>
> Shriman Bhattahiri may have his own reasons to harbor tender feelings
> for His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi. But he does His Holeness
> absolutely no good (and only harm) by selectively expressing distaste
> for posts by His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi's victims. It makes His
> Holeness conclude that it is cute to "react viscerally" to
> "provocations" and "patronizing replies" by indulging in vulgar
> outbursts about sodomizing the "enemy" and his mother and sisters as
> well. Unwittingly or deliberately, Shriman Bhattahiri is encouraging
> His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi to continue to indulge in his fantasies
> about "back holes".
>
> Shriman Bhattahiri's expression of indignant outrage is at best a case
> of naivety. At worst, Shriman Bhattahiri is acting agent provocateur
> egging on His Holeness beyond the "Hole-y Rekha" so that he can enjoy
> the show from the sideline. With friends like Shriman Bhattahiri, His
> Holeness Dayashankar Joshi has little hope of recovery from his mental
> disorder.
>
> Far better (and kinder) if His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is told
> that he should never ever skip sessions with his psychiatrist. Far
> better (and kinder) to encourage His Holeness to heed Hansa Joshi's
> entreaties to seek treatment at the psychiatric ward at Northwick Park
> Hospital if he is really all that unhappy with his court appointed
> psychiatrist at Cygnet Hospital.
>
> Shriman Bhattahiri does His Holeness DM Joshi no favor but a great
> deal of harm by feeding into his illusion that he is cute when he
> spews "back holes,, mothers and sisters".

Which court appointed a psychiatrist for Dayashankar, why and when?

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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In article >,
dh@. posted:
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> Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.fan.jai-maharaj,alt.religion.hindu,
> alt.food.vegan,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
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In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

On Feb 8, 12:55*pm, arah > wrote:


> I agreed with you I answered not one but many.

You answered none but just cut and paste nonsense

> Narrated 'Aisha: (the mother of the faithful believers)

So now Ayesha, who was not even born when Mohammad first heard the
agent speak to him, is the evidence?

The simple fact is Mohammad did not even know who spoke to him! It was
never God! This is the devil!


> Who created you Allah, the Idols or Hindu Kali?

Do not use words you do not understand. Tell me what you mean by
*creation*! This is all play of words. Will work with unintelligent
Arabians and muslims! Not with us. Tell me what you understand by the
word *creation*!

On Apr 1, 10:58*am, arah > wrote:

> So begins the story of Adam, the first man, the first human being.
> God created Adam from a handful of soil containing portions from all
> its varieties on Earth.

Look. All this is poppycock! Stories which do not make any sense! We
are Hindus. We are trained to ask questions and we do not believe
anything that does not make sense

Being a Muslim, you are insulated from logic and commonsense and
brainwashed to believe and repeat the same nonsense that Mohammad was
a prophet!

The question is how does God make the soil! Where does the soil come
from? Answer that first

How does God create space?

Also study this:

http://www.islam-watch.org/SujitDas/...g_Muhammad.pdf

If you really want to discuss I can But if you repeat the same Koran
nonsense as proof, it wont work. I do not think Koran is from god at
all. Mohammad is not prophet.

Tell me what the Vedas said about the Creation of man?

On Apr 2, 1:04*am, uNmaivirumbi > wrote:
> On Apr 1, 10:58*am, arah > wrote:
>
> > So begins the story of Adam, the first man, the first human being.
> > God created Adam from a handful of soil containing portions from all
> > its varieties on Earth.
>
> Look. All this is poppycock! Stories which do not make any sense! We
> are Hindus. We are trained to ask questions and we do not believe
> anything that does not make sense
>
> Being a Muslim, you are insulated from logic and commonsense and
> brainwashed to believe and repeat the same nonsense that Mohammad was
> a prophet!
>
> The question is how does God make the soil! Where does the soil come
> from? Answer that first
>
> How does God create space?
>
> Also study this:
>
> http://www.islam-watch.org/SujitDas/...g_Muhammad.pdf
>
> If you really want to discuss I can But if you repeat the same Koran
> nonsense as proof, it wont work. I do not think Koran is from god at
> all. Mohammad is not prophet.

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> alt.food.vegan,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian
> Subject: Sad Monkey
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In article >,
arah > posted:
[
[ Hindu Goddesses of War
[
[ One of the astonishing phenomena in ancient mythology is the existence
[ of goddesses of war, which contrasts with the absence of women from
[ the actual scene of war. For hundreds or even thousands of years of
[ wars between rival tribes, peoples and countries, women have been
[ excluded from one of the central occupations of human beings; but the
[ appearance of goddesses of war persisted as long as there were any
[ goddesses left in any pagan pantheon all round the globe, from America
[ to the Far East to the Near East and Europe.
[
[ A Great Mother goddess of war is also the Hindu Kali, known both for
[ her cruelty and for her motherly care for all creation. Kali is
[ sometimes considered an aspect of another Hindu war goddess, Durga,
[ about whom the following story is told on the site =91Goddesses of War=92:
[
[ Durga, a fierce warrior, was born during a lengthy battle between the
[ Hindu gods and an army of demons. In desperation, the gods gathered
[ together and breathed in unison. A ferocious fire blazed forth from
[ their mouths, out of which Durga was born =97 a fully grown warrior,
[ ready to fight.
[
[ The gods quickly gave her a lion (or, some say, a tiger), to mount,
[ and a weapon for each of her ten hands. Durga advanced toward the
[ demons =97 one of them in the form of a buffalo, which is reminiscent of
[ the Chinese story cited above. As her arms flashed with their weapons,
[ within moments she had slaughtered all the demons.
[
[ On a site dedicated to her particularly, Durga is said to represent
[ the power of the Supreme Being Shiva, to whom she was married, who
[ preserves moral order and righteousness in creation. She is called
[ =93Divine Mother=94, and one of her epithets is Maha, which means =93Great=
[ =94
[ or =93Terrific.=94 She had three divine children, two sons and a daughter.
[
[ Durga=92s festival is celebrated in the autumn, in the months
[ corresponding to September/October; and the Wikipedia comments that
[ =93The worship of Durga in the autumn is the year=92s most major festival
[ in East India.=94 These autumn months are when the monsoon=92s torrential
[ rains hit India. These rains are both punishing in their destructive
[ force and the killing of many people and beneficial by being India=92s
[ main source of fertility.
[
[ Taking Durga as an example of an all-around war goddess, it has been
[ said that she =93protects mankind from evil and misery by destroying
[ evil forces such as selfishness, jealousy, prejudice, hatred, anger,
[ and ego.=94; At another website it is said that she =93symbolizes triumph
[ over evil.=94 But the idea of evil has no place in the pagan, natural
[ scheme of things; it is an artificial idea, that fits more into the
[ late Hindu religion of ideas than into the natural world, to which the
[ Great Mother (as Durga is said to be) would belong. The Great Mother,
[ as a ruler of the Underworld besides being the ruler of Earth and
[ Heaven, is also a goddess of wisdom and judgment. On the whole, she is
[ both beneficial and punishing, as any good mother should be.

Jai Durga Devi!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article [,
uNmaivirumbi [ posted:
[
[ Jai Jagadambe!
[
[ Please destroy all evil
[
[ Protect the good people!

Jai Jai Jagadambe Mata!

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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> tries his best to be a bully --
telling others what and when to post, where to post and
where not to post, deliberately publishing lies about
others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but
fails miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his
lap dog Prem Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah"
>, and issues *death threats* to people),
is priming himself for conditions such as stroke and
heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" > who
displays unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and
the instigator who posts as "Bholu" >

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On May 24, 4:43*pm, arah > wrote:
> Tell me what the Vedas said about the Creation of man?

The whole universe including all humans and all life is His
manifestation.

I am sure you will never understand that as Islam blinds you!