> > You seem to enjoy comparing child abuse
> > to meat eating.
>
> The analogy is appropriate. Both involve things that
> some people say are absolutely wrong. If something is
> absolutely wrong, there is no ethical room for anyone
> to do any of it.

> > It's like pollution...
>
> No, it isn't like pollution at all, dummy. That was
> the whole point of bringing up pollution. Pollution
> isn't morally wrong, it's just undesirable from a
> utilitarian standpoint.

But it is like pollution. Less polution benefits the
human animal as well as other lifeforms. Less
land taken from nature to grow excessive crop
needs benefit humans and animals too.

> > Who are you to say whether pollution is morally
> > wrong or not?
>
> It isn't. No one views it as morally wrong.

I do. I think it's morally wrong to do what many
big companies do to the air and water. Any
effort to lessen damage on their part would
be a good thing in my view.




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Scented Nectar wrote:

>>>You seem to enjoy comparing child abuse
>>>to meat eating.
>>
>>The analogy is appropriate. Both involve things that
>>some people say are absolutely wrong. If something is
>>absolutely wrong, there is no ethical room for anyone
>>to do any of it.
>
>
>>>It's like pollution...
>>
>>No, it isn't like pollution at all, dummy. That was
>>the whole point of bringing up pollution. Pollution
>>isn't morally wrong, it's just undesirable from a
>>utilitarian standpoint.
>
>
> But it is like pollution.

It is NOT like pollution: no one believes pollution
_per se_ to be absolutely wrong, the way you profess to
believe killing animals to be absolutely wrong.

Pollution is undesirable from a *utilitarian*
standpoint. My toilet being stopped up is undesirable,
but it is not morally bad.

>
>
>>>Who are you to say whether pollution is morally
>>>wrong or not?
>>
>>It isn't. No one views it as morally wrong.
>
>
> I do.

No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
undesirable, not morally wrong.

> >>>Who are you to say whether pollution is morally
> >>>wrong or not?
> >>
> >>It isn't. No one views it as morally wrong.
> >
> >
> > I do.
>
> No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
> undesirable, not morally wrong.

I view it as morally wrong to willfully (stole that
word from ricky) pollute the air or water that we
all have to share on this earth.

Are you going to still insist that I don't see it
as morally wrong? Guess what, it's me who
decides that, not you.


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Scented Nectar wrote:

>>>>>Who are you to say whether pollution is morally
>>>>>wrong or not?
>>>>
>>>>It isn't. No one views it as morally wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>I do.
>>
>>No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
>>undesirable, not morally wrong.
>
>
> I view it as morally wrong to willfully

No, you don't - you pollute daily, on an egregious level.

> >>No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
> >>undesirable, not morally wrong.
> >
> >
> > I view it as morally wrong to willfully
>
> No, you don't - you pollute daily, on an egregious level.

Oh, you mean my farting? After a while the body
gets used to both beans and cruciferae veggies.
The extra farting goes away. Ok, seriously, what
polluting are you talking about?


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Scented Nectar wrote:

>>>>No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
>>>>undesirable, not morally wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>I view it as morally wrong to willfully
>>
>>No, you don't - you pollute daily, on an egregious level.
>
>
> Oh, you mean my farting?

No, I mean your use of fossil fuels, and your household
waste. I suppose we should include the toxic
rhetorical output, too, but that's not as important.

"Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
news 8<
> Oh, you mean my farting? After a while the body
> gets used to both beans and cruciferae veggies.
> The extra farting goes away. Ok, seriously, what
> polluting are you talking about?

Don't forget, pastured cattle fart an aweful lot more than vegans.

John

> Don't forget, pastured cattle fart an aweful lot more than vegans.
>
> John

That's for sure. I read somewhere that on pig farms alone,
the threat to the ozone (or was it the greenhouse effect)
was quite high.


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"John Coleman" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Scented Nectar" > wrote in message
> news > 8<
>> Oh, you mean my farting? After a while the body
>> gets used to both beans and cruciferae veggies.
>> The extra farting goes away. Ok, seriously, what
>> polluting are you talking about?
>
> Don't forget, pastured cattle fart an aweful lot more than vegans.
===============
Then you need to boycot rice, stupid...


>
> John
>
>

In article .net>,
Jay Santos > wrote:

> Scented Nectar wrote:
>
> >>>>>Who are you to say whether pollution is morally
> >>>>>wrong or not?
> >>>>
> >>>>It isn't. No one views it as morally wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I do.
> >>
> >>No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
> >>undesirable, not morally wrong.
> >
> >
> > I view it as morally wrong to willfully
>
> No, you don't - you pollute daily, on an egregious level.

Killing people as well as animals. Is it morally right, wrong or morally
netural to kill people under these circumstances, Jay.

Don't rush to answer. I know this must be difficult for you.

Ron wrote:

> In article .net>,
> Jay Santos > wrote:
>
>
>>Scented Nectar wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>>>Who are you to say whether pollution is morally
>>>>>>>wrong or not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It isn't. No one views it as morally wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I do.
>>>>
>>>>No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
>>>>undesirable, not morally wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>I view it as morally wrong to willfully
>>
>>No, you don't - you pollute daily, on an egregious level.
>
>
> Killing people as well as animals. Is it morally right, wrong or morally
> netural to kill people under these circumstances, Jay.

I'm asking the questions here, cocksucker.

In article t>,
Jay Santos > wrote:

> Ron wrote:
>
> > In article .net>,
> > Jay Santos > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Scented Nectar wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>>>>Who are you to say whether pollution is morally
> >>>>>>>wrong or not?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It isn't. No one views it as morally wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I do.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, you don't. No one does. You view it as
> >>>>undesirable, not morally wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I view it as morally wrong to willfully
> >>
> >>No, you don't - you pollute daily, on an egregious level.
> >
> >
> > Killing people as well as animals. Is it morally right, wrong or morally
> > netural to kill people under these circumstances, Jay.
>
> I'm asking the questions here, cocksucker.

Dominate me. LOL more foreplay.