In article t>,
Jay Santos > wrote:

> Ron wrote:
>
> > In article t>,
> > Jay Santos > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Ron wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>In article . net>,
> >>> Jay Santos > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Sophomore Ron wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>In article .net>,
> >>>>>Jay Santos > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>In article et>,
> >>>>>>>Jay Santos > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>That you equate veganism and forced sexual violence
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I asked you to respond with a yes or a no, sophomoric
> >>>>>>>>shitbag. "Yes or no, Sophomore Ron - dispense with
> >>>>>>>>your usual blowhard windy equivocation."
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Answer the question, Sophomore Ron, and answer it with
> >>>>>>>>a yes or a no: Do you believe sodomizing small
> >>>>>>>>children with broom handles to be morally wrong? Yes
> >>>>>>>>or no, shitbag; no one is interested in your sophistry.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Do you?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Answer the question, shitbag. Do you believe
> >>>>>>sodomizing small children with broom handles to be
> >>>>>>morally wrong?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Answer yes or no, shitbag. No one is interested in
> >>>>>>reading yet more of your trite sophistry.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>We both must think it okay.
> >>>>
> >>>>No, don't speak for me, cocksucker.
> >>>>
> >>>>Anyway, I'll take that as a "Yes, cocksucker Ron
> >>>>believe it to be morally wrong for adults to sodomize
> >>>>children", although given your sexual orientation, I'm
> >>>>not sure I believe you. Anyway, what took you so long
> >>>>to answer, cocksucker?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Since we have time to discuss anything here.
> >>>>>Since neither of us is championing the poor broomed children, we must
> >>>>>not view it as objectively or absolutely wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>>****wit - I'm not talking about what others might do to
> >>>>stop psychopath degenerates like you from sodomizing
> >>>>children. That isn't the issue, and my belief that it
> >>>>is absolutely wrong does not compel me to try to stop
> >>>>you from doing it. It DOES allow me to declare you
> >>>>evil for doing it.
> >>>>
> >>>>The point in asking the question, cocksucker, is to get
> >>>>Skanky Carpetmuncher and you to see that if YOU believe
> >>>>it is absolutely wrong, then YOU must not do it at all.
> >>>>It isn't about me preventing you from doing
> >>>>something, cocksucker; it's about YOU recognizing what
> >>>>your belief in moral absolutes necessarily dictates to
> >>>>YOU about YOUR behavior.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You don't have the power to stop me from doing anything.
> >>
> >>That's probably false, but beside the point. It isn't
> >>my personal and direct obligation to stop you from
> >>committing evil acts.
> >
> >
> > Nor is it the vegan's responsibility to stop others from killing animals
> > -- if we accept your reasoning.
>
> I never suggested it was, homo. I said it is the
> "vegan's" responsibility not to participate in the
> process, in any way, that leads to killing animals.
> Buying from a producer who you know kills animals is
> participating. You can't believe the killing of
> animals is wrong and participate in the process.

Of course, she can. We participate in the process of pollution and
migrant worker exploitation.

Ron wrote:

> In article t>,
> Jay Santos > wrote:
>
>
>>Ron wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article t>,
>>> Jay Santos > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>In article . net>,
>>>>>Jay Santos > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article .net>,
>>>>>>>Jay Santos > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>In article et>,
>>>>>>>>>Jay Santos > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That you equate veganism and forced sexual violence
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I asked you to respond with a yes or a no, sophomoric
>>>>>>>>>>shitbag. "Yes or no, Sophomore Ron - dispense with
>>>>>>>>>>your usual blowhard windy equivocation."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Answer the question, Sophomore Ron, and answer it with
>>>>>>>>>>a yes or a no: Do you believe sodomizing small
>>>>>>>>>>children with broom handles to be morally wrong? Yes
>>>>>>>>>>or no, shitbag; no one is interested in your sophistry.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Do you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Answer the question, shitbag. Do you believe
>>>>>>>>sodomizing small children with broom handles to be
>>>>>>>>morally wrong?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Answer yes or no, shitbag. No one is interested in
>>>>>>>>reading yet more of your trite sophistry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>We both must think it okay.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No, don't speak for me, cocksucker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anyway, I'll take that as a "Yes, cocksucker Ron
>>>>>>believe it to be morally wrong for adults to sodomize
>>>>>>children", although given your sexual orientation, I'm
>>>>>>not sure I believe you. Anyway, what took you so long
>>>>>>to answer, cocksucker?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Since we have time to discuss anything here.
>>>>>>>Since neither of us is championing the poor broomed children, we must
>>>>>>>not view it as objectively or absolutely wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>****wit - I'm not talking about what others might do to
>>>>>>stop psychopath degenerates like you from sodomizing
>>>>>>children. That isn't the issue, and my belief that it
>>>>>>is absolutely wrong does not compel me to try to stop
>>>>>>you from doing it. It DOES allow me to declare you
>>>>>>evil for doing it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The point in asking the question, cocksucker, is to get
>>>>>>Skanky Carpetmuncher and you to see that if YOU believe
>>>>>>it is absolutely wrong, then YOU must not do it at all.
>>>>>>It isn't about me preventing you from doing
>>>>>>something, cocksucker; it's about YOU recognizing what
>>>>>>your belief in moral absolutes necessarily dictates to
>>>>>>YOU about YOUR behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You don't have the power to stop me from doing anything.
>>>>
>>>>That's probably false, but beside the point. It isn't
>>>>my personal and direct obligation to stop you from
>>>>committing evil acts.
>>>
>>>
>>>Nor is it the vegan's responsibility to stop others from killing animals
>>>-- if we accept your reasoning.
>>
>>I never suggested it was, homo. I said it is the
>>"vegan's" responsibility not to participate in the
>>process, in any way, that leads to killing animals.
>>Buying from a producer who you know kills animals is
>>participating. You can't believe the killing of
>>animals is wrong and participate in the process.
>
>
> Of course, she can.

No, she can't. To participate means one doesn't really
believe it's wrong.