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Jay Santos > wrote: > Ron wrote: > > > In article t>, > > Jay Santos > wrote: > > > > > >>Ron wrote: > >> > >> > >>>In article . net>, > >>> Jay Santos > wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Sophomore Ron wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>In article .net>, > >>>>>Jay Santos > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>In article et>, > >>>>>>>Jay Santos > wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Sophomore Ron wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>That you equate veganism and forced sexual violence > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>I asked you to respond with a yes or a no, sophomoric > >>>>>>>>shitbag. "Yes or no, Sophomore Ron - dispense with > >>>>>>>>your usual blowhard windy equivocation." > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Answer the question, Sophomore Ron, and answer it with > >>>>>>>>a yes or a no: Do you believe sodomizing small > >>>>>>>>children with broom handles to be morally wrong? Yes > >>>>>>>>or no, shitbag; no one is interested in your sophistry. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>Do you? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Answer the question, shitbag. Do you believe > >>>>>>sodomizing small children with broom handles to be > >>>>>>morally wrong? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Answer yes or no, shitbag. No one is interested in > >>>>>>reading yet more of your trite sophistry. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>We both must think it okay. > >>>> > >>>>No, don't speak for me, cocksucker. > >>>> > >>>>Anyway, I'll take that as a "Yes, cocksucker Ron > >>>>believe it to be morally wrong for adults to sodomize > >>>>children", although given your sexual orientation, I'm > >>>>not sure I believe you. Anyway, what took you so long > >>>>to answer, cocksucker? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Since we have time to discuss anything here. > >>>>>Since neither of us is championing the poor broomed children, we must > >>>>>not view it as objectively or absolutely wrong. > >>>> > >>>>****wit - I'm not talking about what others might do to > >>>>stop psychopath degenerates like you from sodomizing > >>>>children. That isn't the issue, and my belief that it > >>>>is absolutely wrong does not compel me to try to stop > >>>>you from doing it. It DOES allow me to declare you > >>>>evil for doing it. > >>>> > >>>>The point in asking the question, cocksucker, is to get > >>>>Skanky Carpetmuncher and you to see that if YOU believe > >>>>it is absolutely wrong, then YOU must not do it at all. > >>>>It isn't about me preventing you from doing > >>>>something, cocksucker; it's about YOU recognizing what > >>>>your belief in moral absolutes necessarily dictates to > >>>>YOU about YOUR behavior. > >>> > >>> > >>>You don't have the power to stop me from doing anything. > >> > >>That's probably false, but beside the point. It isn't > >>my personal and direct obligation to stop you from > >>committing evil acts. > > > > > > Nor is it the vegan's responsibility to stop others from killing animals > > -- if we accept your reasoning. > > I never suggested it was, homo. I said it is the > "vegan's" responsibility not to participate in the > process, in any way, that leads to killing animals. > Buying from a producer who you know kills animals is > participating. You can't believe the killing of > animals is wrong and participate in the process. Of course, she can. We participate in the process of pollution and migrant worker exploitation. |
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