In article >,
usual suspect > wrote:

> Scented Nectar wrote:
> >>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> >>
> >>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> >>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
> >
> > I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>
> Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
> Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
> amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
> of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
> and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
> with health agency requirements.

Well then, any educated fool can see the difficulty is not in veganism
but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.

> > Given that
> > I have no choice other than to starve, what do you
> > suppose that I do.
>
> You have three different options. Put your money where your big mouth is
> and actually garden in a manner consistent with your dubious
> "principles." Recommend legitimate, widely-available products which
> minimize CDs; those include certain kinds of meat, but NOT mechanically
> planted or harvested produce. Or, best of all, you can stop making false
> claims, moral and otherwise, about food choices.

Daddy!

Do as I say!

You may find this surprising but no one is required to live by your
standard. She can live just as she pleases.

> >>>You are trying
> >>>to put an 'absoluteness' on the whole thing,
> >>
> >>That's what VEGANS do. You claim it's wrong to kill animals, and when
> >>shown that your diet causes more animals to be killed, you say it's
> >>wrong to eat them.
> >
> > Never mind other vegans and what you think of them.
> > Don't use the word absolute thrown in.
>
> You said killing animals is wrong. You left yourself an out of
> self-defense.

You killed Flipper and his Buds. Shame on you.

Fudge-packed Ron wrote:
>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>>>>
>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
>>>
>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>>
>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
>>with health agency requirements.
>
> Well then, any educated fool

Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.

> can see the difficulty is not in veganism

It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.

> but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.

Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
of the grandest magnitude.

<...>

In article >,
usual suspect > wrote:

> Fudge-packed Ron wrote:
> >>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> >>>>
> >>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> >>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
> >>>
> >>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
> >>
> >>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
> >>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
> >>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
> >>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
> >>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
> >>with health agency requirements.
> >
> > Well then, any educated fool
>
> Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
>
> > can see the difficulty is not in veganism
>
> It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
>
> > but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
>
> Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
> demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
> nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
> Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
> have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
> actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
> of the grandest magnitude.

You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards. The
vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights and to
operate as a human within a human world.

There is a name for such a logical fallacy, but I'm not that interested
in remembering or looking it up at the moment.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> usual suspect > wrote:
>
>> Fudge-packed Ron wrote:
>> >>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
>> >>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
>> >>>
>> >>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>> >>
>> >>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
>> >>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
>> >>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
>> >>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like
>> >>granaries
>> >>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
>> >>with health agency requirements.
>> >
>> > Well then, any educated fool
>>
>> Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
>>
>> > can see the difficulty is not in veganism
>>
>> It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
>>
>> > but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
>>
>> Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
>> demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
>> nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
>> Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
>> have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
>> actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
>> of the grandest magnitude.
>
> You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
=====================
LOL You still don't have a clue, do you, fool? It's not 'our' standards
that they should follow, it's their own, idiot. The ones they make big
pronouncements about and then never even try to live up to! You really are
this stupid, aren't you? And all this time I thought you were just playing.
One too many packings, eh pansy?


The
> vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights and to
> operate as a human within a human world.
>
> There is a name for such a logical fallacy, but I'm not that interested
> in remembering or looking it up at the moment.

In article t>,
"rick etter" > wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > usual suspect > wrote:
> >
> >> Fudge-packed Ron wrote:
> >> >>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> >> >>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
> >> >>
> >> >>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
> >> >>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
> >> >>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
> >> >>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like
> >> >>granaries
> >> >>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
> >> >>with health agency requirements.
> >> >
> >> > Well then, any educated fool
> >>
> >> Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
> >>
> >> > can see the difficulty is not in veganism
> >>
> >> It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
> >>
> >> > but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
> >>
> >> Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
> >> demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
> >> nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
> >> Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
> >> have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
> >> actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
> >> of the grandest magnitude.
> >
> > You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
> =====================
> LOL You still don't have a clue, do you, fool? It's not 'our' standards
> that they should follow, it's their own, idiot. The ones they make big
> pronouncements about and then never even try to live up to! You really are
> this stupid, aren't you? And all this time I thought you were just playing.
> One too many packings, eh pansy?

Ugh. Once again, please enlighten us on the requirements of humans to
follow the theoretical construct or logical argument.

*awaits the latest google"

> The
> > vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights and to
> > operate as a human within a human world.
> >
> > There is a name for such a logical fallacy, but I'm not that interested
> > in remembering or looking it up at the moment.

Fudge-packer Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
>>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>>>>
>>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
>>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
>>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
>>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
>>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
>>>>with health agency requirements.
>>>
>>>Well then, any educated fool
>>
>>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
>>
>>
>>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
>>
>>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
>>
>>
>>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
>>
>>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
>>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
>>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
>>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
>>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
>>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
>>of the grandest magnitude.
>
>
> You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.

I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
meet or exceed their own standards.

> The vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights and to
> operate as a human within a human world.

I haven't questioned their freedom (or right) to engage in hypocrisy.
I've only called them on it.

In article >,
usual suspect > wrote:

> Fudge-packer Ron wrote:
> >>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> >>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
> >>>>
> >>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
> >>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
> >>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
> >>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
> >>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
> >>>>with health agency requirements.
> >>>
> >>>Well then, any educated fool
> >>
> >>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
> >>
> >>
> >>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
> >>
> >>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
> >>
> >>
> >>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
> >>
> >>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
> >>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
> >>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
> >>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
> >>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
> >>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
> >>of the grandest magnitude.
> >
> >
> > You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
>
> I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
> meet or exceed their own standards.

I see. So your expectations of others are higher than your own
expectations of yourself. What have you done about the moral wrong of
sodomizing children and premeditated murder. You were in the chain of
those "great minds" who disagreed with these acts as immoral as I recall.

> > The vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights and
> > to
> > operate as a human within a human world.
>
> I haven't questioned their freedom (or right) to engage in hypocrisy.
> I've only called them on it.

Hmmmm.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> usual suspect > wrote:
>
>> Fudge-packer Ron wrote:
>> >>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
>> >>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
>> >>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
>> >>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a
>> >>>>variety
>> >>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like
>> >>>>granaries
>> >>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in
>> >>>>accordance
>> >>>>with health agency requirements.
>> >>>
>> >>>Well then, any educated fool
>> >>
>> >>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
>> >>
>> >>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
>> >>
>> >>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
>> >>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
>> >>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
>> >>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
>> >>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
>> >>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're
>> >>hypocrites
>> >>of the grandest magnitude.
>> >
>> >
>> > You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
>>
>> I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
>> meet or exceed their own standards.
>
> I see. So your expectations of others are higher than your own
> expectations of yourself.
=====================
Nice strawman, pansy. He never made any such claim. Nice of you to try to
project onto others the idiocy you spew though.


What have you done about the moral wrong of
> sodomizing children and premeditated murder.
========================
Analogies are really really hard for you, aren't they pansy? First and
foremost he doesn't participate in the action, unlike the vegan that claims
that killing animals is wrong and yet does nothing to alleviate the death
and suffering they contribute to. So, he's already far ahead of vegans.
Second, the strawman you built gets knocked over easily since he has never
claimed to live his life in a way that reduces and'or eliminates child
abuse. Again, that's the basis of the vegan religion.
You really are too stupid for this, pansy. Maybe you should just hang out
with the other pansies in your semi-literate phi. group.


You were in the chain of
> those "great minds" who disagreed with these acts as immoral as I recall.
>
>> > The vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights
>> > and
>> > to
>> > operate as a human within a human world.
>>
>> I haven't questioned their freedom (or right) to engage in hypocrisy.
>> I've only called them on it.
>
> Hmmmm.

Sodomite Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
>>>>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
>>>>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
>>>>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
>>>>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
>>>>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
>>>>>>with health agency requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well then, any educated fool
>>>>
>>>>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
>>>>
>>>>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
>>>>
>>>>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
>>>>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
>>>>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
>>>>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
>>>>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
>>>>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
>>>>of the grandest magnitude.
>>>
>>>
>>>You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
>>
>>I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
>>meet or exceed their own standards.
>
> I see.

No, you don't.

In article >,
usual suspect > wrote:

> Sodomite Ron wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> >>>>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
> >>>>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
> >>>>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
> >>>>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like
> >>>>>>granaries
> >>>>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
> >>>>>>with health agency requirements.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Well then, any educated fool
> >>>>
> >>>>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
> >>>>
> >>>>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
> >>>>
> >>>>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
> >>>>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
> >>>>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
> >>>>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
> >>>>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
> >>>>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
> >>>>of the grandest magnitude.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
> >>
> >>I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
> >>meet or exceed their own standards.
> >
> > I see.
>
> No, you don't.

More editing. I've come to expect it of you. The "usual suspect" would
be appropriate then.

In article >,
usual suspect > wrote:

> Sodomite Ron wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> >>>>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
> >>>>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
> >>>>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
> >>>>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like
> >>>>>>granaries
> >>>>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
> >>>>>>with health agency requirements.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Well then, any educated fool
> >>>>
> >>>>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
> >>>>
> >>>>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
> >>>>
> >>>>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
> >>>>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
> >>>>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
> >>>>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
> >>>>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
> >>>>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
> >>>>of the grandest magnitude.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
> >>
> >>I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
> >>meet or exceed their own standards.
> >
> > I see.
>
> No, you don't.

More editing. I've come to expect it of you. The "usual suspect" would
be appropriate then.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> usual suspect > wrote:
>
>> Fudge-packer Ron wrote:
>> >>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
>> >>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
>> >>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
>> >>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a
>> >>>>variety
>> >>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like
>> >>>>granaries
>> >>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in
>> >>>>accordance
>> >>>>with health agency requirements.
>> >>>
>> >>>Well then, any educated fool
>> >>
>> >>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
>> >>
>> >>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
>> >>
>> >>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
>> >>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
>> >>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
>> >>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
>> >>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
>> >>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're
>> >>hypocrites
>> >>of the grandest magnitude.
>> >
>> >
>> > You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
>>
>> I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
>> meet or exceed their own standards.
>
> I see. So your expectations of others are higher than your own
> expectations of yourself.
=====================
Nice strawman, pansy. He never made any such claim. Nice of you to try to
project onto others the idiocy you spew though.


What have you done about the moral wrong of
> sodomizing children and premeditated murder.
========================
Analogies are really really hard for you, aren't they pansy? First and
foremost he doesn't participate in the action, unlike the vegan that claims
that killing animals is wrong and yet does nothing to alleviate the death
and suffering they contribute to. So, he's already far ahead of vegans.
Second, the strawman you built gets knocked over easily since he has never
claimed to live his life in a way that reduces and'or eliminates child
abuse. Again, that's the basis of the vegan religion.
You really are too stupid for this, pansy. Maybe you should just hang out
with the other pansies in your semi-literate phi. group.


You were in the chain of
> those "great minds" who disagreed with these acts as immoral as I recall.
>
>> > The vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights
>> > and
>> > to
>> > operate as a human within a human world.
>>
>> I haven't questioned their freedom (or right) to engage in hypocrisy.
>> I've only called them on it.
>
> Hmmmm.

Sodomite Ron wrote:
>>>>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
>>>>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
>>>>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
>>>>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
>>>>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
>>>>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
>>>>>>with health agency requirements.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well then, any educated fool
>>>>
>>>>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
>>>>
>>>>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
>>>>
>>>>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
>>>>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
>>>>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
>>>>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
>>>>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
>>>>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
>>>>of the grandest magnitude.
>>>
>>>
>>>You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
>>
>>I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
>>meet or exceed their own standards.
>
> I see.

No, you don't.

In article >,
usual suspect > wrote:

> Fudge-packer Ron wrote:
> >>>>>>>I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally
> >>>>>>poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I don't know which do this, if they really do.
> >>>>
> >>>>Bullshit. You know that most farmers don't employ the tactics of the
> >>>>Lundbergs to clear the fields of migratory birds (but not rodents,
> >>>>amphibians, etc.). You know that the use of pesticides kills a variety
> >>>>of non-targeted species. You know that storage facilities like granaries
> >>>>and warehouses pro-actively employ pest control measures in accordance
> >>>>with health agency requirements.
> >>>
> >>>Well then, any educated fool
> >>
> >>Glad you're here to speak for the educated fool community.
> >>
> >>
> >>>can see the difficulty is not in veganism
> >>
> >>It *is*, but an educated fool is still a fool.
> >>
> >>
> >>>but in the whores who are the growers and farmers.
> >>
> >>Whores who cut certain corners to fulfill even *more whorish* consumer
> >>demand for the least expensive products possible. Most consumers care
> >>nothing about dead mice or rats or frogs, they just want their food.
> >>Vegans, who brazenly lie about the impact their diet has on animals,
> >>have failed to address the issue of alternative production which might
> >>actually help their consumption match their rhetoric. They're hypocrites
> >>of the grandest magnitude.
> >
> >
> > You still suffer the delusion that other must follow your standards.
>
> I insist others who pontificate about such things make some effort to
> meet or exceed their own standards.

I see. So your expectations of others are higher than your own
expectations of yourself. What have you done about the moral wrong of
sodomizing children and premeditated murder. You were in the chain of
those "great minds" who disagreed with these acts as immoral as I recall.

> > The vegan is free to make a logical argument to support animal rights and
> > to
> > operate as a human within a human world.
>
> I haven't questioned their freedom (or right) to engage in hypocrisy.
> I've only called them on it.

Hmmmm.