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> > I have no way of knowing what farmers do what.
> > Stop feigning ignorance and innocence. You know they intentionally > poison them and less intentionally run over and flood them. I don't know which do this, if they really do. Given that I have no choice other than to starve, what do you suppose that I do. > > You are trying > > to put an 'absoluteness' on the whole thing, > > That's what VEGANS do. You claim it's wrong to kill animals, and when > shown that your diet causes more animals to be killed, you say it's > wrong to eat them. Never mind other vegans and what you think of them. Don't use the word absolute thrown in. > > when in > > fact you know full well that I am content with the death > > reductions I have made > > You haven't reduced animal deaths through your consumption. You're > engaging in a perverse tautology in which you say something is wrong but > that you're not responsible. I'm doing the best I can for both my health and the animals. > > (knowing that it's currently > > impossible to do better). > > Only because you're the classically clueless urbanite. You've been told > how it's possible to cause much fewer animal deaths, but you object when > some of the options include eating certain kinds of meat; you've also > suggested -- LAMELY -- that only wealthy landowners can afford to grow > crops "veganically." Only someone with very few braincells would suggest to a vegetarian or vegan that they eat meat. The id is not acceptable. If they did though, then how would they reduce the cds in all the other foods they eat? > > I have > > seen no indications that foreign grown foods cause > > more deaths than local ones, by the way. > > Additional storage and transportation, for starters. Rick also gave you > links to articles about how environmentally damaging banana and plantain > crops are in Central America. Environmental damage from monocropped > bananas and plantains means harm to animals through decreased habitat, > pollution, etc. That's barely different than crops grown here. > >>>>In my direct reply to Skanky Carpetmuncher, I pointed > >>>>out that by subordinating her absolute belief that it > >>>>is wrong to kill animals to her wish for flavor variety > >>>>in food, she is implicitly admitting, once again, that > >>>>she is NOT "doing the best she can" at reducing animal > >>>>death. In fact, she is revealing that she does NOT > >>>>believe killing animals is wrong. Her reply was very > >>>>revealing: > > > > You're the one putting absolute in there. I do indeed > > believe that killing animals is wrong > > Wrong? Isn't that an absolute? No. If it was, I would have said absolutely wrong. -- SN http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/ A huge directory listing over 700 veg recipe sites. Has a fun 'Jump to a Random Link' button. |
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