In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote
> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >
> >> "John Deere" > wrote
> >>
> >> > John Deere wrote:
> >> > ...
> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers, or
> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
> >> >>
> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b) situation.
> >> >
> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
> >> >
> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
> >>
> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
> >>
> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
> >> > once does deserve some praise.
> >>
> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
> >> self-flattery.
> >
> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a culture
> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to manage
> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
>
> What are you going to kill today?

I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've killed
nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of man
-- if it moves kill it.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote
>> > "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "John Deere" > wrote
>> >>
>> >> > John Deere wrote:
>> >> > ...
>> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers, or
>> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
>> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b) situation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
>> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
>> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
>> >> >
>> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
>> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
>> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
>> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
>> >>
>> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
>> >>
>> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
>> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
>> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
>> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
>> >> > once does deserve some praise.
>> >>
>> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
>> >> self-flattery.
>> >
>> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a culture
>> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to manage
>> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
>>
>> What are you going to kill today?
>
> I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
> focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've killed
> nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of man
> -- if it moves kill it.

Non-responsive.

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Ron" > wrote
> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "John Deere" > wrote
> >> >>
> >> >> > John Deere wrote:
> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers, or
> >> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
> >> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b) situation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
> >> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
> >> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
> >> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
> >> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
> >> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
> >> >>
> >> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
> >> >>
> >> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
> >> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
> >> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
> >> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
> >> >> > once does deserve some praise.
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
> >> >> self-flattery.
> >> >
> >> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a culture
> >> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to manage
> >> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
> >>
> >> What are you going to kill today?
> >
> > I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
> > focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've killed
> > nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of man
> > -- if it moves kill it.
>
> Non-responsive.

I've never killed for fun, food or profit. I leave those activities to
those who are mentally disturbed and derive pleasure from such actions

"Ron" > wrote
> "Dutch" > wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, "Dutch" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Ron" > wrote
>> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "John Deere" > wrote
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > John Deere wrote:
>> >> >> > ...
>> >> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers, or
>> >> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
>> >> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b) situation.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
>> >> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
>> >> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
>> >> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
>> >> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
>> >> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
>> >> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
>> >> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
>> >> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
>> >> >> > once does deserve some praise.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
>> >> >> self-flattery.
>> >> >
>> >> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a
>> >> > culture
>> >> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to manage
>> >> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
>> >>
>> >> What are you going to kill today?
>> >
>> > I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
>> > focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've
>> > killed
>> > nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of man
>> > -- if it moves kill it.
>>
>> Non-responsive.
>
> I've never killed for fun, food or profit. I leave those activities to
> those who are mentally disturbed and derive pleasure from such actions.

Then by what logic is a vegan better than you?

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote
> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Ron" > wrote
> >> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "John Deere" > wrote
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > John Deere wrote:
> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers, or
> >> >> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
> >> >> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b) situation.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
> >> >> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
> >> >> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
> >> >> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
> >> >> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
> >> >> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
> >> >> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
> >> >> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
> >> >> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
> >> >> >> > once does deserve some praise.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
> >> >> >> self-flattery.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a
> >> >> > culture
> >> >> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to manage
> >> >> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
> >> >>
> >> >> What are you going to kill today?
> >> >
> >> > I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
> >> > focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've
> >> > killed
> >> > nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of man
> >> > -- if it moves kill it.
> >>
> >> Non-responsive.
> >
> > I've never killed for fun, food or profit. I leave those activities to
> > those who are mentally disturbed and derive pleasure from such actions.
>
> Then by what logic is a vegan better than you?

It isn't a logical perspective. Morals are not logic.

It is a judgment. I consider the vegan superior in that they are
unwilling to see animals killed to save humans. I am. I am willing to
excuse someone killing a hundred animals if it means they won't vent
that aggression onto the human community.

"Ron" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Dutch" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote
>> > "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > In article >, "Dutch"
>> >> > >
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Ron" > wrote
>> >> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "John Deere" > wrote
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > John Deere wrote:
>> >> >> >> > ...
>> >> >> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers,
>> >> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
>> >> >> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b)
>> >> >> >> >> situation.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
>> >> >> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
>> >> >> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
>> >> >> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
>> >> >> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
>> >> >> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
>> >> >> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
>> >> >> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
>> >> >> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
>> >> >> >> > once does deserve some praise.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
>> >> >> >> self-flattery.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a
>> >> >> > culture
>> >> >> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to
>> >> >> > manage
>> >> >> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What are you going to kill today?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
>> >> > focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've
>> >> > killed
>> >> > nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of
>> >> > man
>> >> > -- if it moves kill it.
>> >>
>> >> Non-responsive.
>> >
>> > I've never killed for fun, food or profit. I leave those activities to
>> > those who are mentally disturbed and derive pleasure from such actions.
>>
>> Then by what logic is a vegan better than you?
>
> It isn't a logical perspective. Morals are not logic.
> It is a judgment. I consider the vegan superior in that they are
> unwilling to see animals killed to save humans. I am.

Wrong conclusion, where have you been the past couple of weeks.?

> I am willing to
> excuse someone killing a hundred animals if it means they won't vent
> that aggression onto the human community.

Rubbish

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Ron" > wrote
> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > In article >, "Dutch"
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Ron" > wrote
> >> >> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "John Deere" > wrote
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > John Deere wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers,
> >> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
> >> >> >> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b)
> >> >> >> >> >> situation.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
> >> >> >> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
> >> >> >> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
> >> >> >> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
> >> >> >> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
> >> >> >> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
> >> >> >> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
> >> >> >> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
> >> >> >> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
> >> >> >> >> > once does deserve some praise.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
> >> >> >> >> self-flattery.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a
> >> >> >> > culture
> >> >> >> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to
> >> >> >> > manage
> >> >> >> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What are you going to kill today?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
> >> >> > focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've
> >> >> > killed
> >> >> > nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of
> >> >> > man
> >> >> > -- if it moves kill it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Non-responsive.
> >> >
> >> > I've never killed for fun, food or profit. I leave those activities to
> >> > those who are mentally disturbed and derive pleasure from such actions.
> >>
> >> Then by what logic is a vegan better than you?
> >
> > It isn't a logical perspective. Morals are not logic.
> > It is a judgment. I consider the vegan superior in that they are
> > unwilling to see animals killed to save humans. I am.
>
> Wrong conclusion, where have you been the past couple of weeks.?

I didn't know that I'm required to account for my time and to you? Are
we dating?

> > I am willing to
> > excuse someone killing a hundred animals if it means they won't vent
> > that aggression onto the human community.
>
> Rubbish

Well, thanks for telling me what I believe. Wow. I'm impressed with your
ability to read my mind.

Killers need a place to vent their aggression. Aggression can often be
misdirected. It is safer for the human community to have that aggression
directed to other animals rather than humans.

Any one who can 'dissociate' themselves from the act of putting a bullet
in the head of an animal, or electrocuting them, or stabbing, shooting,
etc. without the presence of emotions is psychologically impaired to a
certain degree.

Keep em busy and keep em away from me.

In article >, "Dutch" >
wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Ron" > wrote
> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > In article >, "Dutch"
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Ron" > wrote
> >> >> >> > "Dutch" > wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "John Deere" > wrote
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > John Deere wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > ...
> >> >> >> >> >> a) You have very limited understanding and reasoning powers,
> >> >> >> >> >> or
> >> >> >> >> >> b) You are lying to yourself for some twisted reason.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> In your case, (a) may be valid, though the original proponent
> >> >> >> >> >> of your argument appears to be more of a strong (b)
> >> >> >> >> >> situation.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Reading the thread, the "twisted reason" becomes a little
> >> >> >> >> > clear: apparently the OP was some sort of a lapsed
> >> >> >> >> > vegetarian of some kind?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > That would explain the extreme irrationality mixed
> >> >> >> >> > with much hatred. It would be springing from
> >> >> >> >> > an extreme driving need to deny one's lack of
> >> >> >> >> > will by finding some "justification"!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You have absolutely no excuse for this degree of ignorance.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > FWIW, I think there should not be any stigma attached
> >> >> >> >> > to people who couldn't stick with a veg*n diet
> >> >> >> >> > due to lack of will. When people are raised on
> >> >> >> >> > meat in every meal, just the effort they made
> >> >> >> >> > once does deserve some praise.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I guess that makes you some kind of saint then.. typical vegan
> >> >> >> >> self-flattery.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No, it just makes them better than those of who eat meat. In a
> >> >> >> > culture
> >> >> >> > predicated on the notion of not causing harm, they do seem to
> >> >> >> > manage
> >> >> >> > that. I have yet to see a vegan kill anyone or anything.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> What are you going to kill today?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm doing a community service. By keeping those who enjoy killing
> >> >> > focused on killing animals we can avoid them killing humans. I've
> >> >> > killed
> >> >> > nothing today. Not even an infection to destroy. Oh, the nature of
> >> >> > man
> >> >> > -- if it moves kill it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Non-responsive.
> >> >
> >> > I've never killed for fun, food or profit. I leave those activities to
> >> > those who are mentally disturbed and derive pleasure from such actions.
> >>
> >> Then by what logic is a vegan better than you?
> >
> > It isn't a logical perspective. Morals are not logic.
> > It is a judgment. I consider the vegan superior in that they are
> > unwilling to see animals killed to save humans. I am.
>
> Wrong conclusion, where have you been the past couple of weeks.?

I didn't know that I'm required to account for my time and to you? Are
we dating?

> > I am willing to
> > excuse someone killing a hundred animals if it means they won't vent
> > that aggression onto the human community.
>
> Rubbish

Well, thanks for telling me what I believe. Wow. I'm impressed with your
ability to read my mind.

Killers need a place to vent their aggression. Aggression can often be
misdirected. It is safer for the human community to have that aggression
directed to other animals rather than humans.

Any one who can 'dissociate' themselves from the act of putting a bullet
in the head of an animal, or electrocuting them, or stabbing, shooting,
etc. without the presence of emotions is psychologically impaired to a
certain degree.

Keep em busy and keep em away from me.