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"rick etter" > wrote:

> "Ron" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article . net>,
> > "rick etter" > wrote:
> >
> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > In article >, "Dutch" >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Reynard" > wrote
> >> >> > They are doing exactly what they say they're doing: abstaining
> >> >> > from meat, so stop pushing it onto them, pusher.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's not about "pushing meat", it's about reminding vegans that their
> >> >> diets
> >> >> are not bloodless.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, arguments such as the one that Dutch makes assumes a
> >> > degree of responsibility for the actions of others that defies any
> >> > logical rationalization.
> >> =====================
> >> No, it defies your retardation, idiot. That you can't understand that
> >> any
> >> action that you take, that you know causes the exact result you claim to
> >> be
> >> avoiding and makes you culpable, is quite amusing.
> >
> > I stated my culpability. I am participating in allowing killers to kill
> > animals to provide safety and security to those who must live in
> > proximity to people who are thrive on bloodlust and the infliction of
> > pain, suffering and death. Like paedophilia, there is no known cure for
> > individuals who delight in the killing of animals. I choose it as a
> > 'lesser of two evils'. I am fully aware of what I do and why I do it.
> >
> > I eat meat several days each week to ensure that there is an ample
> > requirement for meat products as the meat killers are unwilling to
> > accept responsibility for their actions against animals. Like most
> > treatment and cure, until they can respond to their denial I must
> > moderate my choices. Since, I do know they are unwilling to accept
> > responsibility, I make my choices.
> ================
> Total lack of intellegent response noted. Total display of ignorance
> shown, yet again. Tell us again how yyou have determined that vegan food
> producers have all somehow become physco-paths, mr freud.

Vegan food producers are rarely involved in killing. Food producers
(meat eating) producing food for vegans can and are involved in the
killing of animals. Killing animals en masse to grow a few fields is the
act of someone who is quite fine with killing. Now would you like to
mention a few vegan farmers who are producing. Or will you continue to
make generalizations out of desperation.

Psychopaths? Well, I'm relying on your information here. Someone who is
willing to kill rodents, amphibians, birds etc. and en masse isn't
exactly stable in my view. To delight in the destruction of those
animals and to that degree is obviously by someone who doesn't value
animals. Of course, killing amphibians to grow rice isn't really killing
an animal for food now, is it?

> >> > I admire vegans in that they do seem to be able to live up to their
> >> > ethical values. Vegans are certainly better than I am.
> >> ================
> >> LOL ANy body is, fool
> >
> > Have you considered raising livestock? Your level of aggression that you
> > display towards humans might be better served killing animals.
> =====================
> Really? What animals are rasised for food for vegans, idiot?

Do pay attention and stay on track. That you willfully ignore what Dutch
has written to further your opportunities for public abusive behaviour
makes you a prime candidate to raise livestock. I hope there aren't
weaker humans in your presence. Yikes, if a child or weaker individual
might disagree with you and do so in person.

As you can see, violence is the nature of the beast. Some of us are able
to contain our emotions and moderate out actions and others....

> >> They can live
> >> > their daily lives without having to kill.
> >> ==================
> >> What have you or I killed today? Personally I don't kill anything
> >> myself,
> >> so I guess to you I'm just as pure as a vegan, eh dolt?
> >
> > That would be correct. You and I are only responsible for our actions.
> > Neither of us killed anything today and neither did any vegan that I've
> > spoken with tody.
> =====================
> Yes, we are responsible for our actions. That your are trying to weasel
> your way out still doesn't work, fool. You knowing take actionas that
> result in animal deaths, you are culpable.

What actions do I take? I think you might fit into the pathology that I
was mentioning earlier. Walk to store -- nothing dies. Plan menu en
route -- nothing dies. Walk through store -- nothing dies. Buy
ingredients -- nothing dies. Take out money -- nothing dies. Go home --
nothing dies. Eat my meal -- nothing dies.

Please define my actions of killing? What weapon did I use?

> > If you "feel" guilty, I suspect that is your difficulty and has nothing
> > to do with the fact that neither of killed an animal today.
> ======================
> And it still doesn't absolve either of us from the fact that animals died as
> a direct result of our *actions*. Kepp up the good work displaying your
> ignorance, pansy-boy.

As a result of my actions? There you go put forth foolish arguments.
It's like the rapist who claims, "she made me do it". I now control you.
Anything you do is my fault. You are powerless to resist my every whim.
You must respond. You have no will, desire or control over your own
behaviour.