"Ron" > wrote in message
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> In article . net>,
> "rick etter" > wrote:
>
>> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > Derek > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 03:52:14 -0500, Ron > wrote:
>> >> > "rick etter" > wrote:
>> >> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> [..]
>> >> >> > I'm glad that you are venting your hostility and aggression on a
>> >> >> > keyboard and not on some unsuspecting person near to you. I hope
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> > aren't children in your vicinity.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The vegan can't be responsible for their action, just as the
>> >> >> > farmer
>> >> >> > can't be responsible for their own action. Your theory thus far
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > made
>> >> >> > that clear. The farmer can't control their actions, they are
>> >> >> > powerless
>> >> >> > before me. One word from me and they must kill. I command them.
>> >> >> > They
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > my slaves. I throw in the promise of a few bucks and my minions
>> >> >> > respond.
>> >> >> ===============
>> >> >> Lack of any logical response noted, fool. Keep up the good work
>> >> >> proving
>> >> >> your ignorance and stupidity....
>> >> >
>> >> >Ah, rick! Hello! It is you that didn't respond. You have argued that
>> >> >the
>> >> >killers of animals are not responsible and that the consumer is
>> >> >responsible. I asked then, who is responsible for the consumer's
>> >> >actions? How can you logically state that one is responsible for the
>> >> >other, but not vice versa.
>> >> >
>> >> >I'm sorry you're looking foolish, rick. But this is the outcome of
>> >> >the
>> >> >beliefs that you are advocating here in your attempt to make vegans
>> >> >look
>> >> >bad.
>> >>
>> >> Rick, like all the other buck-passers here insists that
>> >> the vegan must falsely take on the responsibility for
>> >> the wrong actions of others, thereby enabling those
>> >> wrong actions to continue and to make themselves
>> >> fellow enablers of those wrong actions. In my view,
>> >> his argument aims to recruit vegan apologists and
>> >> enablers so he can then go on to insist that they are
>> >> showing a contempt for the rights of animals when
>> >> buying vegetables.
>> >
>> > You've known him longer than I have. I have my own observations about
>> > his style and methods. We'll see how the discussion goes.
>> ================
>> LOL What discussion? You can't keep from lying, and cannot even keep
>> track
>> of the respones that are being made, fool.
>
> The discussion above seems to be about responsibility and misplaced
> responsibility. Yet, I find nothing in your comments related to the
> issue of responsibility.
>
> Please clarify. Are you in agreement with Dutch and usual that I am
> responsible for the killing that others do, or not?
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When the actions you knowingly take result in those deaths, then yes, you
are culpable. You can continue to try and pass the buck here, pansy-boy,
but you have already lost, again.