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> In article et>,
> "rick etter" > wrote:
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>> "Ron" > wrote in message
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>> > In article . net>,
>> > "rick etter" > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > In article et>,
>> >> > "rick etter" > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Ron" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > In article >,
>> >> >> > usual suspect > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> This ignores the fact that animals die in the course of "vegan"
>> >> >> >> food
>> >> >> >> production, too. Those deaths -- through poisoning, mutilation,
>> >> >> >> drowning, predation, etc. -- are significantly more "cruel" than
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> humane slaughter which they object.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Killed, of course, by meat eaters.
>> >> >> =================
>> >> >> You have proof of this bit of delusional insight, fool? Try to
>> >> >> back
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> up.
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the difficulty? People who raise and kill pigs eat pork
>> >> > products. People who raise and kill cows eat beef products. People
>> >> > who
>> >> > raise and kill seafood eat fish products. What is the difficulty
>> >> > here,
>> >> > usual?
>> >> ================================
>> >> Don't know who you're talking to even anymore, eh fool? Try reading
>> >> for
>> >> comprehension, for a chnage. The comment was about those people that
>> >> produce food for vegans. You remember them, don't you? They're the
>> >> loons
>> >> we've been talking about for weeks now. Now, you like to spew about
>> >> those
>> >> that produce beef, pork, and seafood. Seems to me that none of those
>> >> are
>> >> vegan foods, are they?
>> >
>> > Same group. Who does produce food for vegans.
>> ======================
>> Not the same ones that rasie meat, fool.
>>
>>
>> Who are the rice growers
>> > of the world? Meat eater, or vegan?
>> =====================
>> Have you checked? Prove that a fair number of rice growers world-wide
>> are
>> not vegan.
>>
>> Who are the people who use the
>> > products and chemicals that you so kindly point out are responsible
>> > (oops, there's that word) for the collateral death of animals.
>> ==========================
>> Have you checked? Prove that a fair number of organic growers are not
>> vegan.
>>
>>
>> Who is
>> > that is killing the rodents, amphibians and such -- the meat eater or
>> > the vegan. Farmers and growers are the killers.
>> ===================
>> Exactly. But that doesn't mean that all of them are meat-eaters, now
>> does
>> it, fool?
>>
>>
>> Some of us tolerate
>> > their violence in the world.
>> =======================
>> And are culpable for it. Thanks for pointing that out, pansy-boy....
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> Your request for proof suggests that the typical grower and
>> >> > killer of animals would be vegan and that's just being silly on your
>> >> > part.
>> >> =======================
>> >> Why fool? Are you really this clueless? Oh wait, you've already
>> >> proven
>> >> that, haven't you. Try checking out any number of growers that claim
>> >> to
>> >> be
>> >> 'organic'. I'd bet more than a few would be vegan, yet their farming
>> >> will
>> >> still cause animals to die.
>> >
>> > AH, a few might be vegan. Shall we do a comparison of farms operated by
>> > vegans and meat eaters and killers. it's always easy and intellectually
>> > dishonest to generalize to avoid reality.
>> ==============================
>> ROTFLMAO What a hoot!! It was you that generalized all growers, you
>> ignorant fool! Man, what a maroon... Besides, if you could read for
>> comprhension, you'd see that this discussion was about 'vegan' food! Not
>> meats. Of course, we know that your comprehension is sorely lacking.
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> Occam's Razor: what is more likely that those raise and kill
>> >> > animals are vegan or meat eater?
>> >> ============================
>> >> And again, we aren't talking here about meat, fool. Those are hardly
>> >> vegan
>> >> foods.
>> >
>> > Do pay attention. Dutch specifically spoke to raising livestock.
>> =====================
>> Not at the top of this thread were I responded fool. Your response was
>> to
>> Usual, and the discussion was not about livestock. Need a refresher,
>> fool?
>> try reading for comprehension.
>> quoted text....
>> Usual>>> > This ignores the fact that animals die in the course of
>> "vegan"
>> food
>> > production, too. Those deaths -- through poisoning, mutilation,
>> > drowning, predation, etc. -- are significantly more "cruel" than the
>> > humane slaughter which they object.
>>
>> You>>>>>>Killed, of course, by meat eaters. When the vegan buys the
>> ingredients
>> for the day's meal, the killing is usually done by the meat eater who
>> rather than finding 'ethical' means of growing or harvesting such
>> products, continues to kill.
>> end quoted text....
>>
>> You're an idiot, pansy-boy....

Lack of comment noted, pansy-boy.... Finally figure out your stupidity?


>>
>> >
>> >> Besides, if you really understood the term, you'd realize that it is
>> >> you that has made assumptions of farmers, without actually having any
>> >> info,
>> >> must less the minimun needed, fool. Have you questioned however many
>> >> farmers there are? Remember, not all farmers raise animals, yet they
>> >> still
>> >> kill them.
>> >>
>> >> Keep up the good work in proving your ignorance, pansy-boy.
>> >
>> > You must raise livestock. Your propensity for abuse and violence is
>> > familiar to those of us reading. And if not, you might find some
>> > 'release' in those acts. I imagine eating meat is less satisfactory
>> > than
>> > actually being hands on with killing.
>> =======================
>> Tell us all about your bloody hands, mr freud...
>>
>>
>> >
>> > But let's go another round of blaming the vegan for the actions of
>> > others. It is consistent with our culture of passing the buck -- no one
>> > is responsible for anything, everyone is responsible for everything.
>> ==============================
>> ROTFLMAO You really are a hoot! Thanks for stateing exactly what I
>> have
>> been saying. That vegans, and you now, continue to pass the buck for the
>> actions they(you) take, knowing full well that the choices they/you make
>> cause death and suffering to animals. It is vegans and you that are
>> trying
>> to deny their responsibility. Thanks for proving your stupidity yet
>> again,pansy-boy...
>
> I'm glad that you are venting your hostility and aggression on a
> keyboard and not on some unsuspecting person near to you. I hope there
> aren't children in your vicinity.
>
> The vegan can't be responsible for their action, just as the farmer
> can't be responsible for their own action. Your theory thus far has made
> that clear. The farmer can't control their actions, they are powerless
> before me. One word from me and they must kill. I command them. They are
> my slaves. I throw in the promise of a few bucks and my minions respond.
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Lack of any logical response noted, fool. Keep up the good work proving
your ignorance and stupidity....