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![]() "Ron" > wrote in message ... > In article >, "Dutch" > > wrote: > > > "Ron" > wrote > > >"Dutch" > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> "Derek" > wrote > > >> > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:13:15 -0500, Ron > wrote: > > >> > >In article >, "Dutch" > > > >> wrote: > > >> > [..] > > >> > >> It's not "one vague instance", it's a fundamental principle of law, > > >> > >> morality, and logic. > > >> > > > > >> > >Really. Do tell. I have a passing interest in law. I would appreciate > > >> > >what legal mind has declared this as a fundamental principle in law. > > >> > > > >> > Dutch claims to have been a police officer, so the "legal mind" > > >> > behind this fundamental principle is his own, no doubt. > > >> > > > >> > "In my life I was many things, a farmer, a police officer, and > > >> > a vegetarian, among other things." > > >> > Dutch 29 Jun 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3kbsb > > >> > > >> That's irrelevant, everyone knows that accomplices and accessories to > > >> crimes > > >> are thereby also guilty of crimes. > > > > > > It would be helpful if you were more specific. In some countries and at > > > this point in time, acting in conjunction with what is deemed a criminal > > > act can lead to a case of being found guilty of the same crime. > > > > Not necessarily the same crime. Driving a getaway car in a robbery may be > > considered robbery, but buying the goods later is being an accessory to > > robbery after the fact, a different crime. > > > > > Using North American laws, and inconsistent ones at that, as measure of > > > an absolute moral code is problematic. > > > > You're the only one talking about an "absolute moral code". You attempt to > > answer every problem you encounter in this debate by pummelling this same > > strawman. > > Hmm. So it is subjectively wrong (ie. relative to time and location) or > absolutely wrong (universal through time and space) to be an accomplice > or accessory. It depends on the nature of the act to which you are an accomplice and the nature of the complicity. Every case requires a moral and/or legal evaluation. |
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wrote: > "Ron" > wrote in message > ... > > In article >, "Dutch" > > > wrote: > > > > > "Ron" > wrote > > > >"Dutch" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> "Derek" > wrote > > > >> > On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:13:15 -0500, Ron > wrote: > > > >> > >In article >, "Dutch" > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > [..] > > > >> > >> It's not "one vague instance", it's a fundamental principle of > law, > > > >> > >> morality, and logic. > > > >> > > > > > >> > >Really. Do tell. I have a passing interest in law. I would > appreciate > > > >> > >what legal mind has declared this as a fundamental principle in > law. > > > >> > > > > >> > Dutch claims to have been a police officer, so the "legal mind" > > > >> > behind this fundamental principle is his own, no doubt. > > > >> > > > > >> > "In my life I was many things, a farmer, a police officer, and > > > >> > a vegetarian, among other things." > > > >> > Dutch 29 Jun 2004 http://tinyurl.com/3kbsb > > > >> > > > >> That's irrelevant, everyone knows that accomplices and accessories to > > > >> crimes > > > >> are thereby also guilty of crimes. > > > > > > > > It would be helpful if you were more specific. In some countries and > at > > > > this point in time, acting in conjunction with what is deemed a > criminal > > > > act can lead to a case of being found guilty of the same crime. > > > > > > Not necessarily the same crime. Driving a getaway car in a robbery may > be > > > considered robbery, but buying the goods later is being an accessory to > > > robbery after the fact, a different crime. > > > > > > > Using North American laws, and inconsistent ones at that, as measure > of > > > > an absolute moral code is problematic. > > > > > > You're the only one talking about an "absolute moral code". You attempt > to > > > answer every problem you encounter in this debate by pummelling this > same > > > strawman. > > > > Hmm. So it is subjectively wrong (ie. relative to time and location) or > > absolutely wrong (universal through time and space) to be an accomplice > > or accessory. > > It depends on the nature of the act to which you are an accomplice and the > nature of the complicity. Every case requires a moral and/or legal > evaluation. Buying pot for glaucoma treatment and buying pot for selling to teenagers is the SAME act. Please describe the differences in the *actions* to warrant different moral or legal responses. |
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