Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we
have to hunt and kill to survive.

If you don't eat meat for a long time, you'll become crazy with lust
for MEAT and one day, you will bite another human's ass or even eat
your own flesh!

Just a warning!

haha... this is the funniest thing i've heard all day. i just want to
thank you for the crack up... you must be one freaky human if you're
all predator like!

Gerry Lintonice wrote:

> Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we
> have to hunt and kill to survive.

You're perfectly right. Just stand still till we hunt you down and make a
nice casserole.

Hi bojster. Nice to see you here.

Gerry Lintonice wrote:
> Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we
> have to hunt and kill to survive.

No, the human body does need certain proteins, most of which can be
synthesized as long as there are sufficient *essential* amino acids
present in the diet.

And a vegetarian diet is much more friendly to the digestive tract.
Trust me.

Pinnochio Mojo wrote:
> And a vegetarian diet is much more friendly to the digestive tract.

Not for everyone, and there's a lot more to life than taking a
fiber-rich dump. There's also nutrition and enjoyment -- issues which
matter to people who don't share your vegan eating disorder.

> Trust me.

No.

Gerry Lintonice wrote:
> Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we
> have to hunt and kill to survive.
>
> If you don't eat meat for a long time, you'll become crazy with lust
> for MEAT and one day, you will bite another human's ass or even eat
> your own flesh!
>
> Just a warning!

Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive, but
apparently this is not true of lions.
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...animals/117659

> Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive...

Hunt and kill is redundant here so...

>Humans are predators and need to hunt to survive...

That is false, pre-Neolithic human societies were hunter-gatherer in
nature. Man also learned how to gather plants and edible grains, and
this is how the spread of agriculture and agrarian societies developed
and of course how civilization sprouted and flourished.

Besides i would be hard put to call driving an SUV and/or any yuppie
friendly over-priced automobile to the corner store or the local
supermarket to buy dinner as any form of hunting, or gathering, other
than the moot comparison of the obvious fact of mostly eating the flesh
of dead and horrifically and brutally tortured animals.

"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive...
>
> Hunt and kill is redundant here so...
>
>>Humans are predators and need to hunt to survive...
>
> That is false, pre-Neolithic human societies were
> hunter-gatherer in
> nature. Man also learned how to gather plants and edible
> grains, and
> this is how the spread of agriculture and agrarian societies
> developed
> and of course how civilization sprouted and flourished.
>
> Besides i would be hard put to call driving an SUV and/or any
> yuppie
> friendly over-priced automobile to the corner store or the
> local
> supermarket to buy dinner as any form of hunting, or gathering,
> other
> than the moot comparison of the obvious fact of mostly eating
> the flesh
> of dead and horrifically and brutally tortured animals.
=====================
Nice little emotive spew. Too bad it's far from the truth. You
really want to know which animals die far more brutally and
inhumnely than ANY beef cow? The mammals, birds, reptiles, fish,
and amphibians that die for your cheap, clean, convenient veggies
are the ones that die far more brutally, hypocrite. Why do you
ignore all that blood on your hands?


>

rick wrote:

> Nice little emotive spew.

Irrelevant. Ad hominem.

> Too bad it's far from the truth.

Not unless you are duly ignorant of basic science and hunter-gatherer
cultures.

> You really want to know which animals die far more brutally and
> inhumnely than ANY beef cow?

Ahhh. We are getting somewhere. You admit that factory farmed cows and
other animals die brutal, gruesome, and violent deaths and live
tortured and horrific lifes.

> The mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, and amphibians that die for
> your cheap, clean, convenient veggies are the ones that die far
> more brutally, hypocrite.

Not the vegetables that are from my garden. Sorry. Name some of these
animals if you would be so kind. You exaggerate my friend.

> Why do you ignore all that blood on your hands?

i don't. That is why i'm a vegan. That is why i live and follow a
lifestyle based on humane ethics and *compassion*. And would you care
to provide some proof beyond the laughable "so many mice killed by
machines per square acre" of soy example? Please.

"Pinnochio Mojo" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> rick wrote:
>
>> Nice little emotive spew.
>
> Irrelevant. Ad hominem.
> =====================
Completely relevent to the typical lys and spew of vegan
hypocrites...


>> Too bad it's far from the truth.
>
> Not unless you are duly ignorant of basic science and
> hunter-gatherer
> cultures.
==========================
Nope, you lied.


>
>> You really want to know which animals die far more brutally
>> and
>> inhumnely than ANY beef cow?
>
> Ahhh. We are getting somewhere. You admit that factory farmed
> cows and
> other animals die brutal, gruesome, and violent deaths and live
> tortured and horrific lifes.
===================
Nope again. Those were you words, killer.


>
>> The mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, and amphibians that die
>> for
>> your cheap, clean, convenient veggies are the ones that die
>> far
>> more brutally, hypocrite.
>
> Not the vegetables that are from my garden. Sorry. Name some
> of these
> animals if you would be so kind. You exaggerate my friend.
=============================
Nope, yet again. You are the one exaggerating, fool. Even if
you have the garden you claim, which i doubt, you grow nowhere
near your needs. Plus, here you are on usenet, again causing
unnecessary death and suffering to animals. You just must like
having blood all over your hands, eh killer?


>
>> Why do you ignore all that blood on your hands?
>
> i don't. That is why i'm a vegan.
===========================
A blind one I see...

That is why i live and follow a
> lifestyle based on humane ethics and *compassion*.
===========================
ROTFLMAO What a hoot!! Is that why you are here on usenet
causeing unnecessary death and suffering, hypocrite?


And would you care
> to provide some proof beyond the laughable
========================
Really? Laughable huh? Guess you are just WILLFULLY ignorant,
eh killer?

"so many mice killed by
> machines per square acre" of soy example? Please.
===========================
Animals die, just for your selfishness and conveninece,
killer....


http://www.abcbirds.org/pesticides/pesticideindex.htm
http://www.pmac.net/summer-rivers.html
http://www.pmac.net/fishkill.htm
http://www.pmac.net/summer-rivers.html
http://www.pmac.net/bird_fish_CA.html
http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/news...00/nitrate.htm
http://www.abcbirds.org/pesticides/P...carbofuran.htm
http://www.nwf.org/internationalwildlife/hawk.html
http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Pn36/pn36p3.htm
http://www.wwfcanada.org/satellite/p...eFactSheet.pdf
http://www.ncwildlife.org/pg07_Wildl...on/pg7f2b6.htm
http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/news/food/vegan.html
http://www.wildlifedamagecontrol.com.../leastharm.htm
http://www.panna.org/panna/resources...Cotton.dv.html
http://www.sustainablecotton.org/TOUR/
http://ipm.ncsu.edu/wildlife/small_grains_wildlife.html
http://www.gbr.wwf.org.au/content/problem/sugarcane.htm
http://www.wildlifetrustofindia.org/...ele_poison.htm
http://species.fws.gov/bio_rhin.html
http://www.forages.css.orst.edu/Topi...rate/Mice.html
http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/news/food/vegan.html
http://www.hornedlizards.org/hornedlizards/help.html
http://insects.tamu.edu/extension/bulletins/b-5093.html
http://www.orst.edu/dept/ncs/newsarc...00/nitrate.htm
http://www.orst.edu/instruct/fw251/n...riculture.html
http://www.pan-uk.org/pestnews/Pn35/pn35p6.html
http://www.greenenergyohio.org/defau...iew&pageID=135
http://www.clearwater.org/news/powerplants.html
http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/capandtrade/power.pdf
http://www.nirs.org/licensedtokill/L...xecsummary.pdf
http://www.towerkill.com/index.html
http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/issues/towers/towers.htm
http://www.abcbirds.org/policy/towerkill.htm
http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/pae/es_ma...ticle_22.mhtml
http://www.netwalk.com/~vireo/devastatingtoll.html
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...7697992.htm?1c
http://www.energy.ca.gov/pier/energy...00-01-019.html
http://www.repp.org/repp_pubs/articl.../04impacts.htm
http://www.wvrivers.org/anker-upshur.htm
http://www.fisheries.org/html/Public...nts/ps_2.shtml
http://www.powerscorecard.org/issue_...cfm?issue_id=5
http://www.safesecurevital.org/artic...012012004.html

http://www.cgfi.org/materials/key_pu...oxic_Tools.pdf
http://www.ontarioprofessionals.com/organic.htm
http://hgic.clemson.edu/factsheets/HGIC2756.htm
http://www.biotech-info.net/deadly_chemicals.html
http://www.agnr.umd.edu/ipmnet/4-2art1.htm
http://europa.eu.int/comm/environmen...ing_annex1.pdf




Since your non-animal clothing isn't cruelty-free either,
here's a couple to cover some problems with cotton.
http://www.panna.org/panna/resources...Cotton.dv.html
http://www.sustainablecotton.org/TOUR/
http://www.gbr.wwf.org.au/content/problem/cotton.htm

To give you an idea of the sheer number of animals in a field,
here's some sites about *just* mice and voles. Note that there
can be 100s to 1000s in each acre, not the whole field.
http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache...state.edu/pubs
/natres/06507.pdf+%22voles+per+acre%22+field&hl=en&ie=UTF8
http://extension.usu.edu/publica/natrpubs/voles.pdf
http://extension.ag.uidaho.edu/district4/MG/voles.html
http://www.forages.css.orst.edu/Topi...rate/Mice.html


To cover your selfish pleasure of using usenet, and
maintaining a web page on same, here's are a couple
dealing with power and communications.
http://www.clearwater.org/news/powerplants.html
http://www.towerkill.com/index.html



>

Pinnochio Mojo wrote:
>>Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive...
>
> Hunt and kill is redundant here so...

No, one can hunt and not kill or kill without hunting. The two are
mutually exclusive.

> Besides i would be hard put to call driving an SUV and/or any yuppie
> friendly over-priced automobile

Jealous.

> to the corner store or the local
> supermarket to buy dinner as any form of hunting, or gathering,

It's actually no different in the sense that we now barter (via cash or
whatever) with those who do the killing and slaughtering -- rather than
each human individually hunting and gathering, a few do that and
exchange goods and services with those who do other work in the
community of man.

> other than the moot comparison

Moot comparison?

> of the obvious fact

Obvious fact?

> of mostly eating

Mostly eating?

> the flesh
> of dead and horrifically and brutally tortured animals.

I knew the hyperbole was right around the corner with all the "obvious
fact" and "moot comparison" references. Most livestock are treated
better than you'd ever treat your pets, city slicker.

Jerry Story wrote:
> Gerry Lintonice wrote:
> > Yes, the human body needs MEAT, because humans are predators and we
> > have to hunt and kill to survive.
> >
> > If you don't eat meat for a long time, you'll become crazy with lust
> > for MEAT and one day, you will bite another human's ass or even eat
> > your own flesh!
> >
> > Just a warning!
>
> Humans are predators and need to hunt and kill to survive, but
> apparently this is not true of lions.
> http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...animals/117659
>

Quote:

> A few decades ago, an African lioness defied nature and science by > choosing a vegetarian diet. Rescued at birth from a violent mother, > Little Tyke was handraised on a bottle and grew up in a household with > other pets. At weaning age, George and Margaret Westbeau began > introducing what is considered normal lion foods into her diet but the > big cat refused to eat meat. Worried by scientists' claims that cats > could not live without meat, they tried many strategies and even > offered a cash reward to anyone who could persuade the lioness to eat > meat. A zoo curator told them to try adding a few drops of blood to her > bottle of milk but Tyke refused the milk with even one drop of blood in > it. She even refused to gnaw on bones and was given rubber boots to > chew for her dental health. > > In the meantime Tyke thrived on raw eggs, cooked grains, and milk. She > matured at four years of age into a 352 lb picture of health. In spite > of this, the Westbeau's worried that the lack of meat would > eventually destroy her health. Finally a visitor to their Washington > ranch reminded them of the Genesis 1:30 Bible verse that reads, "And > to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to > everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have > given every green herb for meat: and it was so." That ended their > concerns and Tyke remained a vegetarian. She astonished the nation with > appearances on television showing affection to baby chickens, kittens, > and lambs. She was once photographed in a slaughter house showing > disgust as she turned away from a bloody carcass with a grimace on her > face. It is reported that the vegetarian feline lived in the best of > health until nine years of age when she died of viral pneumonia. >

For those who missed my point:
If dogs and cats and lions can live healthy without meat, why not
people?