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Default Updated vegan/vegetarian/AR page

We've updated this page and added a "New" section:

http://www.geocities.com/conniesunday/veg.html

Thanks!

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Default Updated vegan/vegetarian/AR page

On 19 Jun 2006 07:53:05 -0700, "Perth" >
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>We've updated this page and added a "New" section:
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>http://www.geocities.com/conniesunday/veg.html
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>Thanks!


Lots of interesting stuff there. Thanks.
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Default VEGFAM PUTS THE SPOTLIGHT ON ANIMAL FARMING AND HUMAN FAMINE

VEGFAM PUTS THE SPOTLIGHT ON ANIMAL FARMING AND HUMAN FAMINE

The world food problem is now common knowledge. The Ethiopian famine,
which first hit our headlines in late 1984, has changed forever the
'developed' world's consciousness of the problem. No longer is famine
news one day and forgotten the next, but a fact we must all live with
daily. Yet awareness is only the first step. We need to ask, and find
why, famine occurs. It is not because of overpopulation - enough food
is produced on this planet to feed at least twice its present
inhabitants. Neither is it because of unchangeable climatic conditions
- drought does not arrive purely as a chance bolt from the heavens,
but as a consequence of consistent environmental mismanagement. Much
of what is now desert was once fertile land, and much of what is now
fertile will become desert if present trends continue. HOW? The first
step is the clearing of natural tree cover so that the land may be
used for agriculture. But trees increase humidity, check the run-off
of rainwater from the land, maintain the water table close beneath the
surface, and protect the soil from the erosive effects of wind. So
when extensive areas are devoid of trees the desert is ready to take
over. The process is continued either by overgrazing or
overcultivation. Grazing animals prevent the regeneration of plants by
eating young shoots.





The land becomes gradually more barren, at the mercy of wind and rain;
less a pasture and more of a dust-bowl. Intensive cultivation, by
never giving the soil time to lay fallow and recover nutrients, takes
more from the earth than it puts back. Nature is amazingly resilient,
but eventually this approach means that the land must lose its
fertility. By these processes the deserts of the world are spreading.
It becomes harder and harder for their inhabitants just to survive.

PLANTS CAN FEED THE WORLD
Some 40% of the world's cereal harvest is fed to livestock. In Europe
we import vast amounts, much from Third World countries to feed to
animals to produce more dairy foods and meat than we can use, thus
creating the infamous EEC surpluses. Slowly the realisation is dawning
that to feed plants to animals and then feed on the animals or their
products is grossly inefficient.


On average only 15% of the protein in plants is made available in the
final carcase, and whilst 10 acres growing soya beans can provide
protein for 60 people, 10 acres supporting grazing cattle can provide
for only 2. It would be quite impossible for everyone in the world to
eat the average Western diet, since there is simply not enough land.
This leads us to a vegan solution to the immense problem. Whilst funds
are certainly needed to ease immediate crises, and for long-term
projects to green the deserts again, sending money for famine relief
whilst consuming animal products is short-sighted and ignores the
underlying causes. Good intentions are not enough; if we cannot make
the changes that would benefit us all, things will stay as they are. A
vegan Britain could be self-sufficient in food on only 25% of the
agricultural land presently available, and could demonstrate that
human and animal rights are indeed compatible. Globally, veganism can
point a way to the end of both mass starvation and animal
exploitation.
Such a workable answer to the world's food crisis could have been seen
many years ago. The facts were there but the ability to understand
them was not; animal products had been such a traditional part of our
diet that their removal was unthinkable. Now things have changed. The
Vegan Society is over 50 years old, and as the medical world stresses
the importance of plant-based foods, report after report confirms the
soundness of a vegan diet. Nutritionally, ethically and
environmentally it makes sense.


DONATING TO VEGFAM IS EASY! CLICK HERE TO DONATE ONLINE NOW! In the UK
our Supporters control how much of their donation goes on
administration since VEGFAM operates three separate Funds:


GENERAL DONATIONS paid into
will be apportioned (by % shown) between
A/c No. 65023307 00

PROJECTS (91%)
Administration Expenses (7%)
Office Building Fund (2%)
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at The Co-Operative Bank PLC (SORT CODE 08-92-90), 242 High Street,
Exeter, EX4 3QB (supporters donating via the Midland Bank PLC accounts
can continue as these accounts are being retained). Postal cheques,
IMO's, MO's and PO's to Lydford address, please.
USA. In the U.S. the American Vegan Society has agreed to take U.S.
dollar donations and make them available to VEGFAM in British
Currency. Please make your cheque payable to AVS. Donations will go to
VEGFAM's General Donations accounts unless you specify it is all for
PROJECTS. The American Vegan Society, 501 Old Harding Way, PO Box H,
MALAGA, N.J. 08328-0908 (Phone (609) 694 2887 Fax (609) 694 2288).
Australia. VEGFAM has a PROJECTS Donations account at Westpac Banking
Corporation (Sydney Office), 341 George Street, Sydney, NSW 2000. BSB
& a/c no. 732-000 74-8282.


THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
Distributed by VEGFAM . The Secretary, c/o Cwm Cottage, Cwmynys,
Cilycwm, Llandovery, Carmarthenshire, SA20 0EU, UK .
www.veganvillage.co.uk/vegfam
Tel +44 (0)1550 721 197 email:
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Default Founded in 1944, The Vegan Society provides advice on a way of living free of animal products

http://www.vegansociety.com/html/


Founded in 1944, The Vegan Society provides advice on a way of living
free of animal products for the benefit of

People

UK dietary calories from animal products have fallen 25% in 25 years
as millions of people attempt to follow Government advice and adopt a
healthier, more plant rich diet.

Animals

Concern about factory farming and animal welfare has never been
greater.

The Environment

Western food choices have a major impact on the natural environment
and the developing world. For a more comprehensive explanation see our
Environment Booklet.

The UK has


3 million vegetarians and vegans including thousands of Hindus
A further 3 million people with problems digesting milk
Millions more who avoid particular animal products for ethical, health
or religious reasons.
The Vegan Society supports all who wish to replace or reduce animal
products in their diets and provides expert advice to

The media
Doctors, dietitians, caterers and food producers
Authorities dealing with food labelling, additives, school meals and
other public health issues
The Society is relied upon for

The authoritative nutrition manual Plant Based Nutrition and Health
http://www.vegansociety.com/catalog/...roducts_id=153
The regularly updated Animal Free Shopper
http://www.vegansociety.com/catalog/...roducts_id=238
The trusted Sunflower Logo on animal free products.
http://www.vegansociety.com/html/business/trademark/
For a free information pack write to

The Vegan Society, Donald Watson House, 7 Battle Road, St Leonard's on
Sea, East Sussex TN37 7AA tel 01424 448823

email info at vegansociety dot com



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Default Welcome to Viva! Eating meat causes environmental destruction, damages human health, contributes to global hunger and inflicts immense suffering on billions of animals across the world.

Welcome to Viva! Sunday, Feb 4th

http://www.viva.org.uk/

Eating meat causes environmental destruction, damages human health,
contributes to global hunger and inflicts immense suffering on
billions of animals across the world. Viva! believes that the solution
to all these problems is in our own hands: the best way to stop the
destruction and the cruelty is to stop eating animals now. Through
popular campaigns, solid research, undercover exposés and effective
media skills we have brought the reality of modern farming into
people's living rooms. We have enlightened millions, shocked most and
changed the diets of many. You can help with these successes.

Dogs Go for the Gold!
New and luscious treats for your canine mate are here. You’ve never
seen anything like the Dogs Gold Apple Muffins! See the range here.
http://www.viva.org.uk/shop/dogtreat.htm


You Did It For Ducks Again!
On November 11 2006, hundreds of Viva! supporters once again braved
the elements to bring the story of Jake – the little duckling jailbird
– to Britain’s consumers. The message was clear: set Britain’s
favourite bird free by going veggie! Click here
http://www.viva.org.uk/campaigns/ducks/doa.html
to find out more about the day and to see how it has already been the
catalyst for real welfare improvements.

How Many Animals Could You Save By Going Veggie?
Find out with Viva!’s state-of-the-art animation at our new website,
http://www.timetogoveggie.com/
timetogoveggie.com. Designed especially for meat-eaters and the
veggie curious (those that can make the biggest difference to the
suffering of animals simply by not eating them), our new website is
the perfect introduction to four big reasons to give up meat: saving
around 4,022 animals; improving your health; doing your bit to end
environmental destruction; and helping people in the developing world
to help themselves.

From the website you can invite those stick-in-the-mud carnivores you
know to find out exactly what a difference to ending the suffering of
animals and improving the world around them just with their knife and
fork!


The Gift of Life!
Adopt a rescued farm animal with Viva!, the Vegetarian & Vegan
Foundation and Farm Animal Sanctuary! Go to:
www.adoptafarmanimal.org.uk

Viva! Investigation Exposes Horrific Conditions on British Pig Farms
British consumers have been deceived - by both the pig industry and
the Government - into believing that pigs on UK farms enjoy a standard
of living unparalleled anywhere else in the world - and we have
disturbing undercover footage to prove the point
http://www.piggles.org.uk/


A Matter of Life and Death
Intergalactic guide to how farmed animals are treated in the UK; plus
info on how you can save lives. Read it here.
http://www.viva.org.uk/guides/animals/index.html
Or buy it here.
http://www.viva.org.uk/shop/booksguides.htm




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Default Animal Aid statement on Bernard Matthews bird flu outbreak

http://www.animalaid.org.uk/h/n/NEWS...ory/ALL/1504//

Animal Aid statement on Bernard Matthews bird flu outbreak

With government-appointed killing gangs preparing to destroy as many
as 160,000 birds at a Bernard Matthews Suffolk turkey farm, it is time
for the intensive poultry industry to acknowledge that its own
ruthless animal production and slaughtering systems are the root cause
of the deadly new strains of bird flu.

The global poultry industry has so far succeeded in diverting blame
for the Avian Influenza outbreaks onto wild migratory birds. But with
the migratory season over, industry apologists are devoid of excuses.

In its natural state, the influenza virus has existed for millions of
years as a harmless, intestinal infection of aquatic birds such as
ducks. In poultry, bird flu has gone from a rare disease that occurs
once a year to a far more lethal condition that is striking more and
more frequently. The deadly H5N1 strain emerged in 1997 in Hong Kong.
Since then, lethal outbreaks have hit the Far East, China, North
America and Europe, including Norfolk and Fife. Millions of birds have
been brutally destroyed and more than 100 people have died, mostly in
Asia.

Broiler sheds are perfect breeding grounds for the new, deadly viral
strains and there are any number of ways that they can spread across
countries and continents - not least through transportation of chicks
and poults, poultry products, feed and equipment.

Countries that have not yet developed a large-scale intensive poultry
industry have been largely spared. Despite poultry sheds being
nominally sealed off from the outside world, diseased material can
easily enter them. An expert in the field, Dr Mohammad Yousaf*, has
indicated that H5N1 and other such strains can find their way in
through faecal traces or moisture in the air - or through the medium
of feed, water, supplies, cages, clothes, delivery vehicles, mammals
and even insects.

That a Bernard Matthews production unit should be hit by bird flu
comes as no surprise to those who have monitored the company’s
activities over the years. Undercover investigations in 2002, 2005 and
2006 produced evidence of crowded, dirty conditions with severely
injured, diseased and dead birds.

In September last year, two of the company’s workers at Beck Farm,
Haveringland were convicted of battering turkeys with a broom handle,
used like a baseball bat. The solicitor defending the men described
the conditions in the unit as "appalling" and said: "You can see why
people move to an organic, more open type of farming."

Intensive farms, like those that Bernard Matthews run, are little more
than disease factories. Overcrowded, filthy conditions, and stressed
animals are a recipe for an outbreak.

The first priority of the meat industry and its government allies has
been to insist that poultry products are safe to eat and that the
public should continue to buy and consume them. Cooked chicken and
turkey might be purged of viruses but how safe are the bodies of dead
birds - fresh from supermarket chillers - that reside in millions of
fridges around the country?

The birds in that Holton shed, whose fate under ‘normal’ production
regimes would be appalling, are set to endure even greater suffering.
Government ministers indicated in recent months that they would be
prepared to allow mass asphyxiation of birds under just these
circumstances.

Animal Aid is calling for a boycott of all chicken products as a means
of waking up the government, the industry and the consumer to the vile
and deadly nature of intensive animal production in the UK.

Notes to the Editor
For full background and interviews, contact Andrew Tyler on 01732
364546 (out of hours 07918 083774)
ISDN line available for broadcast-quality interviews.
Reference:
* Avian influenza outbreak hits the industry again, Dr Mohammad
Yousaf, University of Agriculture, Faisalabad, Pakistan, World
Poultry, Vol 20 No 3 2004.* Avian influenza outbreak hits the industry
again, Dr Mohammad Yousaf, University of Agriculture, Faisalabad,
Pakistan, World Poultry, Vol 20 No 3 2004.

Animal Aid campaigns peacefully against all animal abuse, and promotes
a cruelty-free lifestyle. You can support our work by joining, making
a donation, or using our online shop.
Contact Animal Aid at The Old Chapel, Bradford Street, Tonbridge,
Kent, TN9 1AW, UK, tel +44 (0)1732 364546, fax +44 (0)1732 366533,
email .

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Default The Hunt Saboteurs Association - The only organisation that works directly in the field to protect wildlife from the huntsmen

http://www.huntsabs.org.uk/

The Hunt Saboteurs Association

The only organisation that works directly in the field to protect
wildlife from the huntsmen
Postcards, Petitions and calling on the police to uphold the law
aren't things you would normally associate with the HSA but we'll give
anything a go at the moment...

But why leave it to others to do something?
Contact your local group, read up on successful tactics we have used
or just get out with a camera and see what you can do!


Join us and stop the killing NOW!
http://hsa.enviroweb.org/features/joinleaf.html


BM HSA, London, UK. WC1N 3XX
Telephone (+44) 0845 4500727.


Press Officer: 07904 387559



http://hsa.enviroweb.org/links.html
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Default The Hunt Saboteurs Association - The only organisation that works directly in the field to protect wildlife from the huntsmen

On Sun, 04 Feb 2007 09:48:07 +0000, Gareth > wrote:

>http://www.huntsabs.org.uk/
>
>The Hunt Saboteurs Association
>
>The only organisation that works directly in the field to protect
>wildlife from the huntsmen
>Postcards, Petitions and calling on the police to uphold the law
>aren't things you would normally associate with the HSA but we'll give
>anything a go at the moment...
>
>But why leave it to others to do something?
>Contact your local group, read up on successful tactics we have used
>or just get out with a camera and see what you can do!
>
>
>Join us and stop the killing NOW!
>http://hsa.enviroweb.org/features/joinleaf.html
>
>
>BM HSA, London, UK. WC1N 3XX
>Telephone (+44) 0845 4500727.

>
>Press Officer: 07904 387559
>
>
>
>http://hsa.enviroweb.org/links.html


This Government thinks the 2005 Hunting Ban is 'Satisfactory'
Don't Turn YOUR Back on our Wildlife ...
Join the Hunt Saboteurs Association
Hunting with hounds was supposed to have been banned in England &
Wales in February 2005, and in Scotland, several years earlier.
However, now the fuss and media attention has died down, most hunts
are carrying on as they did before. The police have never known much
about hunting other than how to try to protect it, so we never had
much faith in them 'changing sides.

Hunts around the country are arrogantly continuing their slaughter in
the name of sport, in the hope or knowledge that the people in power
don't really care. One of our greatest weapons is now the video camera
- enough instances of hunts breaking the law caught on camera and
hopefully not even the blinkered politicians will be able to ignore
it. MiniDV camcorders cost as little as £250 and can be adapted to
take a covert pinhole camera so no-one at the hunt need even know you
are filming.

Hunt saboteurs, after holding back to see if the law would work will
now seek to take action where it counts - in the killing fields. We
are experienced in using non-violent direct action tactics to save the
lives of thousands of hunted animals every season. From using hunting
horns and voice calls to run off with the hounds at foxhunts, to
standing in front of the shooting butts on the grouse moors, to wading
through the rivers at minkhunts, wherever animals are being hunted for
fun, hunt saboteurs will be there, protecting our wildlife from the
"sportsmen" who get their kicks from killing.

The overwhelming majority of the British public recognise bloodsports
are cruel and abhorrent and over 80% wanted an immediate ban on
bloodsports. They have been duped by the hunters and let down by this
government. That's why the animals need people like you - people who
care enough to do something positive to save them.

There are local hunt saboteur groups all over the UK, all of which are
active at least once a week against the hunts and shoots in their
area. Groups need volunteers to work either as activists in the field,
saving the hunted animals' lives directly, or to do the vital
background work of fundraising, leafleting, etc. without which no
group can function. There will be a hunt saboteur group near you and
whatever your age, skills or experience, you will be able to make a
crucial contribution to saving animals' lives.

This weekend, there will be someone trying to torture and kill
innocent wild animals for sport within a few miles of where you live.
We're going to be there to stop them...Will you?


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Important
We do not provide secure credit card transactions via this site, so
the best method of joining the HSA is to either email your details
(including name, postal address and subscription rate) to us and we
will forward you membership details, or to print out the form and post
a cheque (payable to Hunt Saboteurs Association) to:

BM HSA, London, UK. WC1N 3XX

Yearly subscription rates a £10 Waged £7.50 Unwaged.


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Default About SPEAK - The SPEAK campaign is about saving both human and non-human lives; can the vivisection fraternity say the same thing?

About SPEAK
Migrating from Cambridge, the SPEAK campaign is to continue its role
in the animal rights debate within the public and political arena
through pro-active campaigning.
http://www.speakcampaigns.org/aboutspeak.php/

As part of our campaigning strategy we will be challenging the
government and government-aided institutions (and those institutions
which hold the government in their pockets), to accountability and
openness. To date, the government has avoided significant exposure for
its failure to meet its pre-election promises regarding their Animal
Rights agenda, nor have they been sufficiently challenged for their
undemocratic governing approach within a democratic country. (Take for
example their recent underhand chicaneries over the proposed primate
lab in Cambridge).

The government, vivisection industry and the media commonly use
negatively emotive language when describing those opposed to the abuse
of animals. We are often referred to as "terrorists" because we have
been forced to choose unorthodox methods to draw attention to an issue
where other means have failed; pro-active action has often ensured
that animal rights has put issues requiring attention firmly on the
map. We should remember that government tactics such as this are
commonplace the world over whenever the status quo is being challenged
for an injustice. The use of terminology suggesting violence to
describe animal rights activists is a transparent tool attempting to
divert attention from the real perpetrators of violence who thus
become the implied victims, therein masking the true face of those
inflicting terror and what goes on behind laboratory walls.

We as a movement have often been accused of violating civil liberties
and democratic laws because we have spoken out against injustice. In
thus speaking out, we have always been motivated by the principles of
Individual Rights and the violation of those rights. These do not just
refer to the rights of animals but to the right of individuals to be
fully informed of the truth behind the lies of vivisection. Surely
keeping the public in ignorance of the scientific and moral facts is a
violation of their civil liberties and democratic right to choose? The
collusion of the government and vivisection industry to conceal the
truth from society is a violation of those rights which are meant to
stand for so much in our democratic society.

At SPEAK, we believe it is time for the public to be allowed to make
an informed decision on this debate and that means hearing both sides
of the argument.

The SPEAK campaign is about saving both human and non-human lives; can
the vivisection fraternity say the same thing? Let the public decide
once they know the full truth.

Background to the NEW campaign
The SPEAK campaign was born from the victory of a campaign against
Cambridge University, the following is a brief history of that
campaign and its incredible success.

In February 2001, South Cambridgeshire District Council heard a
planning application from Cambridge University to build a huge new
research complex to carry out experiments on monkeys. It would be
Europe's largest primate vivisection laboratory.

At the planning hearing there were objections from
anti-vivisectionists, environmental campaigners, local residents, and
even the police.

The council unanimously rejected the application, to the relief of
residents and campaigners.

A wealthy and influential government minister, with a vested and
personal interest in the biotechnology industry, then intervened on
the side of the university.

David (Lord) Sainsbury recommended that the council should ignore the
green belt designation 'in the national interest'. He claimed that the
proposed research was of 'national importance'.

The billionaire Sainsbury has donated over £11 million to the Labour
Party, and was rewarded with the title Lord Sainsbury and given the
influential post of Science Minister, within the Dept of Trade and
Industry.

Among his huge business interests is sole ownership of a biotechnology
company, as well as the world-wide patent for a key gene which is set
to make substantial profits.

Despite the powerful intervention of Lord Sainsbury, when the
university appealed, on 6 Feb 2002 South Cambridgeshire District
Council once again overwhelmingly refused planning permission for the
primate centre.

Cambridge University appealed again, this time to the National
Planning Inspectorate.

Both Sainsbury and Prime Minister Tony Blair made further statements
publicly supporting the university's application.

On Nov 26 2002, a public hearing began. The government announced that
it intended to take the highly unusual step of making the decision,
rather than leave it to the planning inspector.

When the planning inspector did reach his decision it was against
Cambridge University and he stated that Cambridge University and the
Government had failed to prove that the proposed reseach centre was in
the national interest.

However true to their democratic credentials Blair and Sainsbury
effectively hijacked the whole planning process and issued a 'decree'
that overturned the decision of the independent planning inspector.

It was during this period that SPEAC (Stop Primate Experiments at
Cambridge) was formed by a coalition of animal rights groups to fight
the proposed labs.

This resulted in some infighting between the various university
authorities, after startling revelations that those applying to build
the labs had lied to the university governing body in order to get the
go-ahead. Most notably they had neglected to mention that the proposed
lab would involve animal research at all, and that resulting protests
would cause severe disruption to the university.

It had also emerged at this time that the projected costs of the lab
had shot up by 25% to £32million, and that the university needed to
find another £7million to go ahead. This was partly due to the
expected costs of security as a result of the inevitable protests
which the centre would attract.

SPEAC were determined that the monkey laboratories would not be built,
and mobilised a mass movement to oppose the plans. Through non violent
action they organised a concerted wave of pressure against the
university, that ultimately proved effective. On the 27th January
Cambridge University finally capitulated in the face of such pressure.
The nightmare scenario of Cambridge becoming the primate vivisection
capital of Europe had ended.

Now begins the next phase in the fight to end vivisection.

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Default About PETA

http://www.peta.org.uk/
PETA in the US came into existence in 1980 in the United States and
have more than 1,100,000 members and supporters, making it the largest
animal rights organisation in the world.

PETA and PETA Europe are dedicated to establishing and protecting the
rights of all animals. Like us, animals are capable of suffering and
have interests in leading their own lives; therefore, they are not
ours to use – for food, clothing, entertainment, experimentation or
for any other reason. PETA affiliates throughout the world educate
policymakers and the public about cruelty to animals and promote an
understanding of the right of all animals to be treated with respect.

PETA and PETA Europe work through public education, research,
legislation, special events, celebrity involvement and protest
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Default Welcome to Veggie Vision! The internet TV station showing play on demand mini programmes 24/7

Welcome to Veggie Vision! The internet TV station showing play on
demand mini programmes 24/7 - channels available include cookery,
celebs, information - with much more on its way.
http://www.veggievision.co.uk/

About Veggie Vision
Welcome to Veggie Vision, an internet TV station that's suitable for
everyone!

We will be bringing you information, education and entertainment for
cruelty-free living and animal-free eating.

After spending time and money into getting a veggie TV programme off
the ground and being told that "It's ahead of its time" and too much
of a "niche" market, Karin Ridgers realised that she needed to say
"How can we promote veganism through the media", rather than "Its
never going to work!" (Thanks Tony Robbins!)

And we thought of the internet!

Thinking of Going Veggie ??

VeggieVision has put together this fun guide that aims to give tips
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Default Welcome to Viva! Eating meat causes environmental destruction, damages human health, contributes to global hunger and inflicts immense suffering on billions of animals across the world.

Gareth wrote:
> Welcome to Viva! Sunday, Feb 4th
>
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"Gareth" > wrote in message

> PETA and PETA Europe are dedicated to establishing and protecting

the
> rights of all animals. Like us, animals are capable of suffering and
> have interests in leading their own lives; therefore, they are not
> ours to use - for food, clothing, entertainment, experimentation or
> for any other reason. PETA affiliates throughout the world educate
> policymakers and the public about cruelty to animals and promote an
> understanding of the right of all animals to be treated with

respect.

PETA are a bunch of ignorant animal haters. They know nothing about
most of the animal for which they supposedly campaign (either their
history in breeding and husbandry). They operate by making a lot of
noise to appeal to the emotions of other similarly ignorant people.


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"Farm1" <please@askifyouwannaknow> wrote in
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> "Gareth" > wrote in message
>
>> PETA and PETA Europe are dedicated to establishing and protecting

> the
>> rights of all animals. Like us, animals are capable of suffering and
>> have interests in leading their own lives; therefore, they are not
>> ours to use - for food, clothing, entertainment, experimentation or
>> for any other reason. PETA affiliates throughout the world educate
>> policymakers and the public about cruelty to animals and promote an
>> understanding of the right of all animals to be treated with

> respect.
>
> PETA are a bunch of ignorant animal haters. They know nothing about
> most of the animal for which they supposedly campaign (either their
> history in breeding and husbandry). They operate by making a lot of
> noise to appeal to the emotions of other similarly ignorant people.


Agreed.

It is worth understanding just what these people actually
believe, which is best done by quoting them directly. See,
for example, http://www.animalrights.net/quotes.html
or http://www.americananimalwelfare.com/rights.html
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On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 12:10:48 GMT, Yukon Zoomer > wrote:

>On 04/02/2007 at 09:56:10 Gareth wrote :
>> PETA and PETA Europe work through public education,


Look at these lies they directed at children:
__________________________________________________ _______
Here you come to save the day!
[...]
And while Viacom and the dairy industries are counting
their cash, cows are counting on you to save them. Cows
make milk for their babies, not for people!
[...]
Please don't eat cheese or other dairy products. You'll
be saving some mother cows and their babies if you make
your life cheese-free!

http://www.peta-online.org/kids/kidaction.html
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>>research,

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If scientists could replace animal research and testing
with methods which did not need to use animals then
they would.

There are several reasons for this:

* Scientists do not like or want to use animals in research.
Like the vast majority of people they do not want to see animals
suffer unnecessarily. In fact less than 10% of biomedical research
uses animals. Unfortunately for much of the work involved in
biomedical research there are as yet no working alternative
techniques that would allow us to stop using animals.

* Biomedical research is producing thousands of new compounds,
which may have potential as new drugs. It is much more efficient to
screen these compounds using rapid non-animal techniques to test
their effectiveness and toxicity.

* The very high standards of animal welfare and care required of
British research establishments are a contributory factor in making
animal research very expensive. If scientists can develop alternatives
to using animals it will allow them to divert their limited research funds
to other areas of research.
[...]
http://www.bret.org.uk/noan.htm
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[...]
From the bald eagle to the red wolf, biomedical research has
helped bring many species back from the brink of extinction.
Conservation and captive breeding programs, often using
fertilization techniques developed for humans, have made it
possible for these animals to be reintroduced into the wild, and
today their numbers are growing. Biologists and wildlife
veterinarians rely on the latest research in reproduction, nutrition,
toxicology and medicine to build a better future for our wild
animals.

In vitro fertilization, sperm banks and artificial insemination were
all developed to help human couples, but today they also are
regularly used to ensure the survival of endangered species.
[...]

http://fbresearch.org/helpingwildlife.html
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WITHOUT ANIMAL RESEARCH:

Polio would kill or cripple thousands of unvaccinated children and
adults this year.

Most of the nation's one million insulin-dependent diabetics wouldn't
be insulin dependent -- they would be dead.

60 million Americans would risk death from heart attack, stroke or
kidney failure from lack of medication to control their high blood
pressure.

Doctors would have no chemotherapy to save the 70% of children who
now survive acute lymphocytic leukemia.

More than one million Americans would lose vision in at least one eye
this year because cataract surgery would be impossible.

Hundreds of thousands of people disabled by strokes or by head or
spinal cord injuries would not benefit from rehabilitation techniques.

The more than 100,000 people with arthritis who each year receive hip
replacements would walk only with great pain and difficulty or be
confined to wheelchairs.

7,500 newborns who contract jaundice each year would develop cerebral
palsy, now preventable through phototherapy.

There would be no kidney dialysis to extend the lives of thousands of
patients with end-stage renal disease.

Surgery of any type would be a painful, rare procedure without the
development of modern anesthesia allowing artificially induced
unconsciousness or local or general insensitivity to pain.

Instead of being eradicated, smallpox would continue unchecked and many
others would join the two million people already killed by the disease.

Millions of dogs, cats, and other pets and farm animals would have died
from anthrax, distemper, canine parvovirus, feline leukemia, rabies and
more than 200 other diseases now preventable thanks to animal research.

http://www.ampef.org/research.htm
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We live longer and healthier lives than ever before. Animal research has
improved the treatment of infections, helped with immunisation, improved
cancer treatment and had a big impact on managing heart disease, brain
disorders, arthritis and transplantation. My own field, the prevention of
genetic disorders in babies, has been possible only because of humane
work on animals.

Animal rights activists talk about cruelty and torture, some backing their
assertions by publishing out-of-date photographs of "experiments"
banned long ago. This is a misrepresentation.
....

Some so-called anti-vivisection organisations would have people believe
that animal research does not work. This is simply a lie. Animals do not
give information that is 100% accurate when applied to humans, but they
do provide invaluable information that cannot be replaced by computer
modelling, cell culture or human experimentation. Mice have virtually the
same genes as humans, which is why they are so useful for exploring
human physiology.

Animal research has contributed to 70% of the Nobel prizes for physiology
or medicine; many award-winning scientists say that they could not have
made their discoveries without animals. Polio would still be claiming hundreds
of lives a year in Britain if it wasn't for animal research by the Nobel
laureate
Albert Sabin. "There could have been no oral polio vaccine without the use
of innumerable animals," he once said."
....

The last big drug disaster in the UK happened because of a lack of animal
research. Four decades ago, when thalidomide's awful effects were revealed,
the drug was returned to the lab to be tested on pregnant animals for the first
time. Birth defects were quickly seen in mice and rabbits. This prompted an
overhaul of the legislation and is the basis for our laws on drug development.
....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/st...ticle_continue
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>> legislation, special events, celebrity involvement and protest
>> campaigns.

__________________________________________________ _______
[...]
WAVY-TV's coverage in Norfolk included heartbreaking details from the
manager of the supermarket whose dumpster became an impromptu pet
cemetery. "They just slung the doors [open] and started throwing dogs
.... beautiful cats. I saw a [dead] beagle last week that was pregnant ... last
week it was 23 or 24 dogs ... it's happened to us nine times ... they drove
straight from there, straight here, and disposed of the dogs in 30 seconds."

Authorities told WNCT-TV in Greenville, NC that they've discovered more
than 70 dead animals in the last month that may be connected to PETA.
[...]
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_...?headline=2833
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[...]
The photos show the inside of PETA's van; the tackle-box "death kit"
(complete with syringes and lethal drugs); the trash dumpster where the
dead animals were found; and several animals buried the next morning
by local authorities.
[...]
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaTrial2.cfm
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From July 1998 through the end of 2003, PETA killed over 10,000 dogs, cats,
and other "companion animals" -- at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's
more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and
cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 85 percent of
the animals it took in during 2003 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows
no sign of changing.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petaKillsAnimals.cfm
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[...]
According to the Associated Press (AP) PETA killed 1325 dogs and cats
in Norfolk last year. That was more than half the number of animals is
took in during that period. According to Virginian-Pilot Reporter, Kerry
Dougherty, the execution rate at PETA's "shelter" far exceeds that of the
local Norfolk SPCA shelter where only a third of animals taken in are
"put down."
[...]
http://www.iwmc.org/newsletter/2000/2000-08g.htm
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[...]
In a July 2000 Associated Press story, reporter Matthew Barakat described
government reports showing that PETA itself killed 1,325 -- or 63 percent --
of the dogs and cats entrusted to it in 1999. The state of Virginia expected
those animals to be placed in adoptive homes. Only 386 of them ever were.
[...]
http://www.nfss.org/Legis/Peta-AA/pet-4.html
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Web posted Friday, April 27, 2001
State Veterinarian, PETA Head Differ On Outbreak
[...]
On Thursday, Ingrid Newkirk, president of People for the Ethical Treatment
of Animals, renewed her claim that an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease
in the United States would benefit herds by sparing them from a tortured
existence and the slaughterhouse.

A PETA spokesman said it's inconceivable that anyone would fail to see
the sense of Newkirk's statements, which have rankled politicians and
livestock farmers from Texas to Canada.

[...]
In a telephone interview from Richmond, Va., Newkirk reiterated her
hope that foot-and-mouth -- which has ravaged herds in Europe -- reaches
U.S. shores.

''It's a peculiar and disturbing thing to say, but it would be less than truthful
if I pretended otherwise,'' she said.

People would be better off without meat because it is tied to a host of
ailments, Newkirk said. And animals would benefit because the current
means of raising and slaughtering livestock are ''grotesquely cruel from
start to finish.''
[...]
http://www.pressanddakotan.com/stori...427010026.html
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"I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the
animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through other workers
abusing the animals. I must have killed thousands of them, sometimes dozens
everyday."
-- Ingrid Newkirk, President, PETA, The New Yorker, April 14, 2003

http://www.targetofopportunity.com/peta.htm
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>They also do this:
>
>"Terrorism
>"Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are 'acceptable
>crimes' when used for the animal cause."
> -Alex Pacheco, Director, PETA"

__________________________________________________ _______
DAN MATHEWS, Celebrity Recruiter for PeTA

"We're at war, and we'll do what we need to win."
(USA Today, September 3, 1991)


INGRID NEWKIRK, FOUNDER, PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENT
OF ANIMALS (PETA)

"I wish we all would get up and go into the labs and take the animals
out or burn them down."
( National Animal Rights Convention '97, June 27, 1997)

"Even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we'd be against
it."
(Vogue, September, 1989)

"I know it's illegal [trespassing], but I don't think it's wrong."
(Montgomery County, MD, Journal Feb. 16, 1988)
.. . .
Intersting PeTA facts

When ALF member Roger Troen was convicted of burglary and arson at
the University of Oregon, in which $36,000 in damage was inflicted,
PeTA paid Troen's $27.000 legal fees and his $34,900 fine. Gary
Thorud testified under oath that "we were illegally funding this
individual with money solicited for other causes, and Ingrid was
using that money, bragging to the staff that she had spent $25,000
on the case."
Deposition of Gary Thorud, Berosini v. PeTA, at 49-50.

Rodney Coronado, a member of the Animal Liberation Front, pleaded
guilty and was sentenced to 57 months in prison for the destruction
of an animal diagnostics research lab at the University of California,
Davis in April, 1987 (total damage estimates: $4.5 million). PETA sent
$ 45,200 to Coronado's 'support committee,' which was a sum 15 times
greater than what PETA spent on animal shelters nationwide in all of
that year.

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Default Recommended: The Redwood Wholefood Co. Ltd - Do you have any tips for online veggie/vegan retailers?

Been using these for a few months now, and the products are great.
They now do online ordering, so are well worth a try.

The vegan cheeses are lovely, and very rich, hence you use less. Long
sell by dates, so you can keep it fresh, and innovative packaging, so
you only open the sections you need, hence preserving the sell by
dates on the other side.

Not bad prices either.

10/10 I'd say.

HTH.

http://www.redwoodfoods.co.uk/

At Redwood, we specialise in producing delicious foods that are
totally free from animal ingredients. From tasty, kinder alternatives
to meat and fish to dairy-free ‘cheeses', we're passionate about
creating the very best in natural plant-based foods. Foods that help
protect not just animals but also people and the environment. Foods
that are free too from hydrogenated fats, eggs, GMOs, cholesterol,
artificial colours and preservatives.

What makes our foods special? The fact that they're just that little
bit different. From fish-style fingers, smoked salmon pate and spicy
falafel to meat-free ‘bacon', nuggets and Schnitzels, Redwood foods
are inspirational, healthy and nutritious and a great source of
protein. We've even picked up a few awards along the way. And been
awarded ethical company status.

So whether you're vegetarian or vegan, have special dietary needs,
don't eat meat for religious reasons or simply want to eat more
healthily, take a look at what Redwood has in store. You'll find our
Vegideli , Cheezly and Cheatin' ranges in good health food stores
nationwide including Holland and Barrett, selected supermarkets or
from our online shop

======================
For people who love the taste of meat but don't want to eat it – for
whatever reason! Meat-free and more-ish, our Cheatin' ‘meats' come in
all sorts of varieties and styles (including sliced and wafer-thin).
The range includes ‘ham', ‘chicken', ‘turkey', ‘garlic sausage',
‘pepperoni' and ‘beef' as well as ‘roasts' in ‘beef' and ‘turkey'
styles. And our streaky-style rashers are great for breakfast. Like
all Redwood foods, our Cheatin' range is completely free from animal
ingredients, cholesterol, hydrogenated fats, artificial
colours/preservatives and GMOs. Suitable for home freezing too.

=====================

If you love cheese but can't or won't eat dairy, Cheezly is for you. A
really tasty alternative to cheese, Cheezly is TOTALLY free from
animal ingredients. So it's perfect for vegetarians and vegans, as
well as people who are lactose or casein intolerant. What's more,
there are no nasties. Cheezly is also free from hydrogenated fats,
gluten*, artificial colours/preservatives, cholesterol and GMOs. It
comes in all manner of flavours and styles including award-winning new
super melting varieties. (* except White Cheddar with bacon-style
pieces)

=======================

Gourmet foods for discerning vegetarians and vegans – and popular with
meat-eaters too! From award-winning Thai Fish-Style cakes and
succulent Fish Style Fingers to spicy falafel, schnitzels and
delicious, ready-to-eat sausages, our Vegideli foods are free from
animal ingredients, cholesterol, hydrogenated fats, artificial
colours/preservatives and GMOs. The choice includes sage & onion
slices and gourmet meat-free sausages as well as ‘fish' style foods,
including ‘smoked salmon' and ‘tuna' pate, fishless steaks and
‘scampi'. We do organic foods too, including sausages and vegetarian
rashers, tempeh rashers, schnitzels and nuggets.
Vegetarian and vegan

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Dairy free

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No artificial colours or preservatives

Soya based

Natural ingredients

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Unique dairy free fudge from devon.

Special recipe with soya milk to taste as good as full dairy fudge.
How? Because it's made in Devon where confectioners understand fudge.
A product to satisfy an increasing number of customers who are lactose
intollerant as well as vegetarians and vegans who choose to avoid
dairy produce and GMOs.


Vegetarian and vegan

Dairy free

Cholesterol free

No hydrogenated fats

No artificial colours or preservatives

Soya based

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The Redwood Wholefood Co. Ltd
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Tel: +44 (01536) 400557
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